| Dane 04.02.2008 18:36 |
Hi guys, i've just started playing around with BoRhap... found a fascinating unused vocal take, so i thought i'd share. has piano, drums and some guitar to give a better impression of what Freddie was singing to. not mixed at all, just mono sorry. link edit: Nothing special or new. courtesy of poopchute for the 24trk. |
| pittrek 05.02.2008 01:31 |
Please RENAME IT. You will only confuse a lot of newbies who will think that this is some "rare demo" |
| Dane 05.02.2008 05:03 |
there's a big difference between a demo and an alternate take. I cannot rename this, as it is just what it says. Ok, to be absolutely clear; this Mp3 consists of a new mix of the original master tape useing main vocals normally cut. |
| una999 05.02.2008 05:55 |
Dane wrote: there's a big difference between a demo and an alternate take. I cannot rename this, as it is just what it says. Ok, to be absolutely clear; this Mp3 consists of a new mix of the original master tape useing main vocals normally cut.How about relax a little...it's not exactly dangerous material like toxic |
| Bobby_brown 05.02.2008 11:02 |
Dane wrote: there's a big difference between a demo and an alternate take. I cannot rename this, as it is just what it says. Ok, to be absolutely clear; this Mp3 consists of a new mix of the original master tape useing main vocals normally cut.There seems to be a confusion here. For you to understand why Pittrek asked you to change the tittle, this is were we use the term "alternate take": An alternate take in this case would have to be a different "take" donne by Freddie wich was not in the final version of the release song. In this case you are presenting the same take as the original song (or final release). And there are no vocals here that were cut out. This version has left some of the used vocals out. It sounds almost the same but there is a huge difference wich can lead people to think they have something different than the version they already have. I don´t know if this is a track of the 5.1 surround version on DVD,or is a fan mix. But it would fit better as "New mix" than "Alternate take" I know what you´re saying, but it´s the use of the word "take" that creates confusion. For a collector, a "take" is like in cinema. He sings the first take, 2nd take and so on. I hope this clarifies. Having said this, thanks for sharing this track. It´s allways good to hear the genius of Freddie at work. He could harmonize so beautifull is own voice. This song has so many layers of beauty in it, that words canot make it justice. Take care |
| Jeroen 05.02.2008 11:46 |
Edit* DELETED because it is no use having a discussion when posts are rewritten |
| Dane 06.02.2008 07:05 |
If this is the case Bobby, then I understand the confusion, let me explain then. The main vocals of this mix are not the vocals appearing on the original (and final) BoRhap. They are taken from a normally muted piece of track of the original 24track master. There are about four main vocal tracks on the multitracks, and only one was used in the end. The other 3 were volumed down(muted) in the final 'mix' My first thought was to just share this vocal piece as standalone (no music) but it's very hard to hear the difference in takes without music. You guys must hear the difference between this take of the vocals and the original because Freddie isn't singing all that clear, flipping over to falsetto at points and more small quirks. Vocals are different between the intro and the opera section, the rest is as it appeared on the album. Indeed if it was all mixed from the 5.1 mix or any other existing final mixes pittrek would have a legit point, this is from the mastertapes, and has (until a couple of days ago) never seen the light of day. I should have clearly stated the origin of this vocal take, my bad. |
| Jeroen 06.02.2008 08:00 |
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| Dane 06.02.2008 08:27 |
what is the problem then? that just used 4 of the 24 tracks to get some backing tape to the vocals, and therefor it is a different mix made by a fan? If I was sharing this to show my mixing skills, I would certainly name it as such. its a different take.. not the whole song, just the vocals.. like the Hot Space alternate versions.. i believe some pieces of those also appear in the final mix. nuff said bout it. feel like im taking crazy pills.. ;) |
| Jeroen 06.02.2008 09:58 |
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| Ale Solan 06.02.2008 10:26 |
*edited* |
| Jeroen 06.02.2008 11:15 |
*Edit* |
| Seven_Seas_Of_Rhye II 06.02.2008 12:28 |
Can not download this, the link is not working ...for now. What is BoRhap multitrack? - I guess it is 24-channels-recording. And in the final mastering Queen used (took) each channel for some seconds in the certain moment. Right? Guys-experts - A QUESTION - do we have all these 24 tracks (for each channel)? If yes, where can we hear it? |
| Rien 06.02.2008 13:03 |
Nicely done, Dane. Sounds like a pretty good demo. (I mean this in a positive way) |
| Rami 06.02.2008 14:00 |
Interesting! Thank you very much! |
| Bobby_brown 06.02.2008 15:21 |
Dane, i apologise! Guys, this is indeed an alternate take and it was never heard before. You can compare the lines "Gonna leave you all behing and face the truth...", wich are different than the original. The confusion comes from the fact that Freddie could reproduce every take almost perfectly! EDIT- I have now realized where this has come from, thanks to YV. Take care |
| YourValentine 06.02.2008 16:10 |
Bobby_Brown - is it possible that you have not looked into the General Forum in the last days and actually missed the threads buy "poopchute"? |
| Bobby_brown 06.02.2008 19:22 |
YourValentine wrote: Bobby_Brown - is it possible that you have not looked into the General Forum in the last days and actually missed the threads buy "poopchute"?Believe it or not, yes it´s true! I wouldn´t be discussing this issue if i had seen that topic. I´m dealing with too much issues on a personal level, and i almost can´t keep up with the great sharings here lately. You´re a STAR YourValentine, thanks for saying that. Obviously you were seeing that something wasn´r right with this topic :-) Take care |
| YourValentine 06.02.2008 22:32 |
In fact two threads:) No need to explain why you don't look into the General Forum, there are good reasons not to look there too often but sometimes you find a nugget in all the mud - or two nuggets to be precise. |
| Ale Solan 06.02.2008 23:37 |
Amazing and thanks YV for directing our eyes to that shithole called General Forum and clear all this up, such a shame the whole stuff wasn't shared here at first. |
| Bobby_brown 07.02.2008 11:47 |
YourValentine wrote: In fact two threads:) No need to explain why you don't look into the General Forum, there are good reasons not to look there too often but sometimes you find a nugget in all the mud - or two nuggets to be precise.Yeah, i just couldn´t believe my eyes! I think it was the most precious thing ever to emerge in the collectors comunity, and for some reason i think that the value of the first "Box set" of the future 3 box set edition has decreased :-) Take care |
| Ivan P. 08.02.2008 07:00 |
Can anybody please post here the link to the 24 track of BoRhap since I can't find it here??? Many thanks |
| A Word In Your Ear 08.02.2008 08:35 |
Ivan P. wrote: Can anybody please post here the link to the 24 track of BoRhap since I can't find it here??? Many thankspart 1:- link part 2:- link part 3:- link originaly posted by "poopchute" & again re-posted at mediafire by "adam baboolal" |
| rhapsody8 08.02.2008 08:51 |
<font color=olive>A Word In Your Ear wrote:Is this files posted in rapidshare before? I can't use mediafire :(Ivan P. wrote: Can anybody please post here the link to the 24 track of BoRhap since I can't find it here??? Many thankspart 1:- link part 2:- link part 3:- link originaly posted by "poopchute" & again re-posted at mediafire by "adam baboolal" |
| Ivan P. 08.02.2008 09:06 |
Thanks so much "A word in your ear"! I'm gonna try and download them! |
| Ale Solan 08.02.2008 10:28 |
rhapsody8 wrote:Why not?<font color=olive>A Word In Your Ear wrote:Is this files posted in rapidshare before? I can't use mediafire :(Ivan P. wrote: Can anybody please post here the link to the 24 track of BoRhap since I can't find it here??? Many thankspart 1:- link part 2:- link part 3:- link originaly posted by "poopchute" & again re-posted at mediafire by "adam baboolal" |
| _Bijou_ 09.02.2008 15:03 |
I don't know what or how to use flac so could someone e-mail the files to me in mp3 form to queengaga@hotmail.com please? |
| PixieStix 09.02.2008 19:22 |
Dene could you post a higher quality version of your mix in flac maybe? I really like it |
| samuele_1984 09.02.2008 19:57 |
Hi Dane! Hope you'll read this. First of all thanks for sharing this file. When Ifound it I was really curious and then satisfied...thanks thanks!! Then a question: if I understand,you put your hands on the master tape,then you "solo"-ed the final vocal tapes,cut some guitar and then raise up the alternate vocal and a guitar trick just as the operistic section began..am I wrong? then: how could you make this? did you use a specific software? do yo have an original tape? how can I do the same?? You made me really curious with this post and i hope to get your reply! Bye to you all! Ciao Samuele P.S. Sorry my English,but I'm Italian and I studied English by myself mainly with Queen and other 70s prog rock bands!! Ciao again |
| Ale Solan 09.02.2008 23:20 |
samuele_1984 wrote: Hi Dane! Hope you'll read this. First of all thanks for sharing this file. When Ifound it I was really curious and then satisfied...thanks thanks!! Then a question: if I understand,you put your hands on the master tape,then you "solo"-ed the final vocal tapes,cut some guitar and then raise up the alternate vocal and a guitar trick just as the operistic section began..am I wrong? then: how could you make this? did you use a specific software? do yo have an original tape? how can I do the same?? You made me really curious with this post and i hope to get your reply! Bye to you all! Ciao Samuele P.S. Sorry my English,but I'm Italian and I studied English by myself mainly with Queen and other 70s prog rock bands!! Ciao again <font color=olive>A Word In Your Ear wrote:Did you read this?Ivan P. wrote: Can anybody please post here the link to the 24 track of BoRhap since I can't find it here??? Many thankspart 1:- link part 2:- link part 3:- link originaly posted by "poopchute" & again re-posted at mediafire by "adam baboolal" |
| Dane 10.02.2008 08:31 |
I only used what was in the original post of Poopchute in the general forum (now also in this thread) and that is the diamond from the underground... the BoRhap 24trk masters.. I used Adobe Audition to put the seperate tracks together to make this mix. For anyone who doesn't have editing software, and can only listen to the seperate tracks. There are a lot of cool things going on in the multitracks which have always been muted. Today I was listening to Bicycle Race from the Japanede karaoke album. That has the guide-piano track of Freddie in the intro (normally cut) these are nice little depths to a song... |
| samuele_1984 10.02.2008 11:50 |
Hi Dane! Many thanks for the reply! Now I understand..you have,and in a few minutes me too,all the tracks of the master so listening you discover a goldmine of muted parts... yeah,then putting it all on a multitrack like cubase,protools,audition you can edit and do whatever you want(just like status quo..).cool! So,can we find other masters?and where if yes? Are the Bohrahp tracks taken from the bonus documentary on the new greatest flix edition?? I never see it but a friend of mine told me..am I wrong? Anyway many thanks again..have a nice time!! Ciao Samuele |
| Bobby_brown 10.02.2008 14:55 |
samuele_1984 wrote: Hi Dane! Many thanks for the reply! Now I understand..you have,and in a few minutes me too,all the tracks of the master so listening you discover a goldmine of muted parts... yeah,then putting it all on a multitrack like cubase,protools,audition you can edit and do whatever you want(just like status quo..).cool! So,can we find other masters?and where if yes? Are the Bohrahp tracks taken from the bonus documentary on the new greatest flix edition?? I never see it but a friend of mine told me..am I wrong? Anyway many thanks again..have a nice time!! Ciao SamueleNo, these tracks were leaked from official source. And there are the 24-track from Killer Queen too. Evrything was shared on the General Forum. Check the following forums carefully. The Killer Queen tracks were shared but you have to read through it so you can have the complete tracks, since on the first page you´ll only get 17 of the 24. link link Take care |
| SgK 11.02.2008 18:50 |
I Can Not download the track :( |
| Ale Solan 11.02.2008 18:53 |
sA wrote: I Can Not download the track :(boton derecho sobre el link y "guardar destino como..." no es muy dificil |