QueenZone discussion #995947
Queen on Fire, Terrible Gig...
| steven 35638 13.05.2007 18:31 |
What you are about to read is something that was not written by me. I found this to be interesting and wonder what you all think of it. "Terrible Gig It seems that Queen have released a "new" live CD and DVD called Queen on Fire. It's not really new as it's a recording of a 1982 concert at the Milton Keynes Bowl. I've only ever seen Queen live once. And it was at this concert. I'm sure I'd already made up my mind that I didn't like Queen much so I don't really know what I was doing there but anyway this was the day that I became certain that I had no future as a Queen fan. They were terrible. It was the Hot Spaces tour. And you'd have to go a long way to find a Queen fan that didn't think that was their worst album by some considerable distance. And the show was full of songs from it. Three things stand out in my memory. * Brian May played the guitar solo from "Brighton Rock". They didn't do the whole song, just the guitar solo. And he running all over over scaffolding around the stage. Until his guitar lead feel out and he went silent. A sheepish roadie scurried after him and plugged him in again and he carried on. But the moment was lost. * Queen never played the whole of "Bohemian Rhapsody" live. They always left the operatic section to tapes and videos. You'd think that after doing it for five years they would have got the timing pretty well sorted. But on that night they screwed it up massively. They came back in just a split second too late and it sounded terrible. * One of the singles from Hot Spaces was "Under Pressure". So they were pretty much expected to do it live. But trying to do it without David Bowie was always going to be a challenge. Unfortunately they went ahead and did it anyway. Disasterously. That may well be the single biggest reason why I now hate listening to Queen. I'm sure that all of these fluffs will have been patched up on this new release. And I'm sure that the Queen fans will love it. But it can only remind me of one of the worst gigs I've ever seen." -Credited to this blog/website : link |
| saltnvinegar 13.05.2007 18:48 |
<font color=FF0033 face=symbol>Freddie wrote: I've only ever seen Queen live once. And it was at this concert. I'm sure I'd already made up my mind that I didn't like Queen much so I don't really know what I was doing there but anyway this was the day that I became certain that I had no future as a Queen fan.He said it all there. He was pretty much a Queen hater already and went to the gig to prove himself right. A quick look at his blog suggests he's a frustrated writer who never hit the big time and dreams of being taken on by the Guardian as a political correspondant...dream on dave. In his 'review' he keeps referring to the tour and album as 'Hot SpaceS' a good journalist would check their details first... He criticises Brian's problem with a guitar lead-so what, it happens. He then moves on to 'bad-timing' during BoRhap, it was *their* song, let them time it how they want. Finally, he didn't like Under Pressure because Bowie wasn't on it. I wonder if he doesn't like Bowie doing it now because Queen aren't there? Silly little man. |
| Richy Mercury 13.05.2007 21:04 |
saltnvinegar wrote:Good points there. Well-said, especially your last sentence.<font color=FF0033 face=symbol>Freddie wrote: I've only ever seen Queen live once. And it was at this concert. I'm sure I'd already made up my mind that I didn't like Queen much so I don't really know what I was doing there but anyway this was the day that I became certain that I had no future as a Queen fan.He said it all there. He was pretty much a Queen hater already and went to the gig to prove himself right. A quick look at his blog suggests he's a frustrated writer who never hit the big time and dreams of being taken on by the Guardian as a political correspondant...dream on dave. In his 'review' he keeps referring to the tour and album as 'Hot SpaceS' a good journalist would check their details first... He criticises Brian's problem with a guitar lead-so what, it happens. He then moves on to 'bad-timing' during BoRhap, it was *their* song, let them time it how they want. Finally, he didn't like Under Pressure because Bowie wasn't on it. I wonder if he doesn't like Bowie doing it now because Queen aren't there? Silly little man. |
| Adam Baboolal 13.05.2007 23:09 |
I'm sorry, but anyone who thinks THAT hot space gig is crap is talking out of their ass! The Hot Space album may have disappointed fans, but the gigs were some of the best they'd ever done and the songs really worked live. Adam. |
| goinback 13.05.2007 23:32 |
He doesn't really give many reasons to hate the gig rather than a minor technical flub with Brian, a slight timing error on Bo Rhap and I thought Under Pressure usually sounded pretty good when they did it without Bowie. He never gave a reason why it was such a bad gig. (I have noticed that timing problem on Bo Rhap though...it's where Roger's live drums start but overlap with the drums on the recording, I am surprised they never made that sound better. Maybe Roger didn't want to try to play along identically with a tape though.) |
| Madman007 14.05.2007 04:52 |
They guy went to the concert not liking Queen... so he wasn't going to have a good time and that's why he gives dumb reasons to why the show was "bad". Well, sir, so is your face! |
| nationofhaircuts44 14.05.2007 05:30 |
Did he REALLY notice the Bho Rhap timing error at the gig, or has he just been endlessly watching the dvd looking for flaws to try to back up his other criticisms? If those are the only reasons for slamming a gig, then presumably when this guy wins the lottery he will complain about the quality of the writing on the cheque. |
| lyricalassasin77 14.05.2007 10:08 |
Yeah this guy is talkin out his ass for sure. Salt N Vinegar put it all in perspective. I own the DvD and have never noticed any time lapse in "BO RAP" and sorry dude maybe you expected them to take David Bowie on every tour with them so he could perform his one song with them. I've always thought Freddie more than handles his own taking that song on all to himself. |
| myatt08 14.05.2007 13:51 |
what a wanker |
| mr bad guy 5656 14.05.2007 16:00 |
yes indeed, what a silly wanker. on that occasion, the band played 'under pressure' in a superb way. YOU STRAPONCOCK BURN IN HELL YOU FUCKING SHEMALE SAYING NASTY THINGS ABOUT QUEEN AND FREDDIE IS NOT DONE YOU DILDO thank you, now i'm fine |
| Micrówave 14.05.2007 16:14 |
Let me get this straight. 1. This guy only saw Queen once 2. He paid $0, since the concert was free (Oops, my bad, guess it wasn't) But I bet this guy won the ticket off the radio or something... I would much rather he go ahead and support another band, like maybe Guns & Roses. I know both times I saw them (in Reno w/ Brian May) (next night in Sacramento w/ Brian May) they played a total of 45 minutes and just floored me with the oodles of talent that was spilling over the stage onto the mosh pit. Think I'll go to the used record store and trade all my Queen CDs for some Megadeth CDs or something... |
| Mr. Scully 15.05.2007 06:46 |
Microwave - the Milton Keynes concert was NOT free. Anyway, I really HATE Hot Space but the live concerts were a different league. Milton Keynes rocks. (If only the stage could look better...) |
| Micrówave 15.05.2007 11:51 |
Yes, my mistake. See my opinion on Hot Space, maybe you'll give it another spin: /queenzone/996277.html |
| brENsKi 15.05.2007 17:27 |
i was at MK in 82...and althought the gig was good...i didn't enjoy it as much as i did the other four times i saw them 79 (crazy tour) was excellent 84 (nec) was great and wembley and knebworth (86) were fantastic MK has always for me lacked one thing (it didnt feel like a traditional queen audience...so the participation was erratic....the interraction with the audience was miss as often as hit...and i think it did have a lot to do with the HS tracks...and the "apology" before "staying power" |
| stateside fan 15.05.2007 23:55 |
sounds like GB to me. |
| goinback 16.05.2007 00:03 |
<font color=green>Bren<font color=orange>ski wrote: i was at MK in 82...and althought the gig was good...i didn't enjoy it as much as i did the other four times i saw them 79 (crazy tour) was excellent 84 (nec) was great and wembley and knebworth (86) were fantastic MK has always for me lacked one thing (it didnt feel like a traditional queen audience...so the participation was erratic....the interraction with the audience was miss as often as hit...and i think it did have a lot to do with the HS tracks...and the "apology" before "staying power"It's weird...these things often don't translate to video/film with the same "mood" everyone at the show felt. For me, MK seems a superior set in terms of songs and energy than Wembley on DVD, but it seems people's recollections from actually being there are different. Brian said they didn't think they did themselves justice at MK until seeing the video, and maybe they didn't in terms of how everyone felt that day but it just ends up coming across great on TV because of how it was shot.... |
| thunderbolt 31742 17.05.2007 16:16 |
I've watched the MK DVD a dozen or so times, and hadn't noticed the BoRhap timing error until this thread pointed it out. That alone makes me suspect the guy writing the review had it pointed out to him, either in the crowd (doubtful) or while watching the DVD (more likely). I had heard that MK looks a lot better on DVD than it actually was, but I still think the performance and setlist were better than Wembley. Of course, I believe pretty firmly than the Magic Tour had the worst setlists Queen ever gave us, and Freddie was clearly tired by the time he got to Wembley from the rest of the tour, so neither is a difficult achievement. I still want to see a proper DVD of Argentina '81. Just based on the bootleg video, I think it could well prove to be the penultimate Queen show. |
| The Real Wizard 17.05.2007 16:54 |
Thunderbolt<br><h6>Courtesy of God wrote: I still want to see a proper DVD of Argentina '81. Just based on the bootleg video, I think it could well prove to be the penultimate Queen show.Penultimate? I think you chose the wrong word, as it means second-last.. :) |
| thunderbolt 31742 17.05.2007 23:19 |
Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:...Thunderbolt<br><h6>Courtesy of God wrote: I still want to see a proper DVD of Argentina '81. Just based on the bootleg video, I think it could well prove to be the penultimate Queen show.Penultimate? I think you chose the wrong word, as it means second-last.. :) I'm going to stop using big words on three hours of sleep. ;) |
| Darren1977 18.05.2007 03:17 |
I thought the bands live version of staying power was brilliant.The DVD production itself was very good.Hot Space in my opinion was a far better album than The Game |
| steven 35638 18.05.2007 11:26 |
DARREN1977 wrote: I thought the bands live version of staying power was brilliant.The DVD production itself was very good.Hot Space in my opinion was a far better album than The GameThat's an interesting comparison! I think I'll have to agree with you actually, I've alway found The Game album to be kind of dry and boring. The songs by themselves work out, but when you put them together on an album there just was no easy flow like you would have heard on Queen II or A Day at the Races. However, lets not forget that both albums did have a fair amount of experimentation. One album is influenced by rockabilly and black oriented disco, while the other was mixed with hard core dance music and some good rockin' songs like Put Out The Fire. Hold up...I change my mind. Both albums were great! Nothing is better, just different. They both have different qualities, so how can we compare? I'm ashamed of myself. I shall rot away in the cellar, I shall peel my flesh off my face...and scrape the bones while I scream in agony. |
| breakthru1989 18.05.2007 13:55 |
hello no,milton keyenes 1982 was an very good show from an very good tour. the album hot space is something else and not my kinda queen album. i‘d rather hear a night at the opera,the miracle or queen 2. when brian may went silent at milton keynes with his guitar solo i think that’s not bad. such things can happen at shows. it proves that the dvd captures the complete show. the hot space tracks were very alive at this tour. that is not the case with the album. queen on fire is my fav.. queen dvd. wembley not milton is more allive and an superb version of somebody to love. |
| steven 35638 18.05.2007 23:04 |
breakthru1989 wrote: hello no,milton keyenes 1982 was an very good show from an very good tour. the album hot space is something else and not my kinda queen album. i‘d rather hear a night at the opera,the miracle or queen 2. when brian may went silent at milton keynes with his guitar solo i think that’s not bad. such things can happen at shows. it proves that the dvd captures the complete show. the hot space tracks were very alive at this tour. that is not the case with the album. queen on fire is my fav.. queen dvd. wembley not milton is more allive and an superb version of somebody to love.If you don't mind me asking, is there a reason why you type so narrowly? |
| The Real Wizard 19.05.2007 01:35 |
Thunderbolt<br><h6>Courtesy of God wrote:Haha... good move :PSir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:... I'm going to stop using big words on three hours of sleep. ;)Thunderbolt<br><h6>Courtesy of God wrote: I still want to see a proper DVD of Argentina '81. Just based on the bootleg video, I think it could well prove to be the penultimate Queen show.Penultimate? I think you chose the wrong word, as it means second-last.. :) |
| Killer Queenie 19.05.2007 17:41 |
The person who wrote that was obviously on drugs - and is very critical. Too critical infact... |
| Darren1977 21.05.2007 04:22 |
he must be a poet if he types like that |
| Greg Gao 24.05.2007 23:40 |
As a matter of fact,Queen on Fire is the only one DVD live available in China ,sadly speaking We really enjoy it. For those three things,BM's unexpected silence could be a laugh dont you think so...?People had fun there surely.BR's timing was not a problem or not that obvious.Under pressure is one of my favourate songs and surprised about your DB absence idea... Agree with most ideas above ...guys |
| deleted user 27.05.2007 08:14 |
Madman007 wrote: They guy went to the concert not liking Queen... so he wasn't going to have a good time and that's why he gives dumb reasons to why the show was "bad". Well, sir, so is your face!So is your face! I love it. Well said. I say that all the time. Conversation with mr moron: Moron: "blah blah blah i hate queen i'm a moron blah blah queen are shit" me: "so is your face Moron: "What?... well... so's your mum...(look at me im so clever)" me: "So is your mums face" Moron: "... what?..." me: "Ha! My mum thinks I'm cool" Moron: "What?!" If you have this conversation with anyone with you saying what said then you will win every argument. I guarantee it. He just sounds like he has some issue with not "making it to the big time" to me. Like sumone else said before. He's just lonely and has too much spare time on his hands. Do me a favour "Dave"... Grow a pair. |