drwinston 07.05.2007 10:19 |
From the news section: May, who is not a fan of reality TV talent contests, adds, "It's actually an appalling lowering of standards, this whole TV-dominated culture. I promise you will never find us on some panel bullying and ridiculing young performers. "I personally detest that kind of thing, and I think it's a shame that the public puts up with it. Errr.. Someone may want to remind him that they were on American Idol last year. Acting like your above it all is difficult when you've been in the thick of it. Getting old is a bitch, isn't it Brian? |
rocks. 07.05.2007 10:28 |
shut up. |
gnomo 07.05.2007 10:37 |
... if YOUR memory serves you right, you should remember they weren't on the panel: they were coaching the contestants, actually, not evaluating them, so I just can't see why you see a contradiction there... |
Sebastian 07.05.2007 11:16 |
I don't think that's part of his connexion with Bavaria. At AI he was being clever enough to take advantage of the promotion that'd represent for him; in this recent case, he was expressing his honest opinion (which I happen to share, btw). |
Deacon Fan 07.05.2007 12:01 |
I believe he even stated at the time, and well before that he wasn't fond of the whole reality TV thing, but they were asked to help out some young performers so they obliged.. then they made him look grumpy so he's probably remembering that as well. |
Micrówave 07.05.2007 12:05 |
Can I add sound effects to this?
unfunny bunny wrote: I believe he even stated at the time, and well before that he wasn't fond of the whole reality TV thing, but they were (CHA-CHING!) asked to help (CHA-CHING!) out some (CHA-CHING!) young performers (CHA-CHING!)so they (CHA-CHING!)obliged.. |
Adolfo and the spiders from Mercury 07.05.2007 13:41 |
drwinston wrote: From the news section: May, who is not a fan of reality TV talent contests, adds, "It's actually an appalling lowering of standards, this whole TV-dominated culture. I promise you will never find us on some panel bullying and ridiculing young performers. "I personally detest that kind of thing, and I think it's a shame that the public puts up with it. Errr.. Someone may want to remind him that they were on American Idol last year. Acting like your above it all is difficult when you've been in the thick of it. Getting old is a bitch, isn't it Brian?fuck u |
ok.computer 07.05.2007 14:00 |
Sebastian wrote: I don't think that's part of his connexion with Bavaria. At AI he was being clever enough to take advantage of the promotion that'd represent for him; in this recent case, he was expressing his honest opinion (which I happen to share, btw).I share it too. This is essentially what TV like this represents: You want to make it big We have the means to do it You will try We will Mock You You will leave disappointed How is *THAT* entertainment? From Plop Idol to Dragon's Den...since when did demeaning people's personal ambitions become such salaciously indecent television? Go Brian. |
drwinston 07.05.2007 14:28 |
Oh for God's sake, I'm as big a Queen - and Brian - fan as anyone here. But his "holier than thou" statement is pretty funny. His "I promise you'll never see us on a panel blah blah blah..." is pretty funny considering he was on a show setting people up to appear before the panel. I'm glad Brian supposedly feels this way, but a year ago he sure seemed to be all in favor of American Idol. I thought it was funny and a bout of old age, but the stepfords have to curse me for saying anything disparaging (Adolfo, you'll need to go look that word up) about their Hero. Hey Adolfo, it's a shame you exhausted your complete vocabulary (you'll have to look that word up as well) in your response. Otherwise you could participated further in the discussion. |
Legy 07.05.2007 14:48 |
If my memory serves me right, Brian regreted being on American Idol last year. |
masterstroke_84 07.05.2007 15:19 |
Brian was not in a panel... he was onstage somewhere in USA helping the kids to rehearse the songs. Idiot. P. |
drwinston 07.05.2007 15:33 |
masterstroke_84 wrote: Brian was not in a panel... he was onstage somewhere in USA helping the kids to rehearse the songs. Idiot. P.Nowhere did anyone say he was on a panel. Read the post. Learn to comprehend English. A triple digit IQ would also be beneficial, but I understand you are at disadvantage in that department. |
drwinston 07.05.2007 15:39 |
artemismoon wrote: If my memory serves me right, Brian regreted being on American Idol last year.I seem to remember something like that too, which is understandable. It's possible that he may not have known what they were getting into. It just seems from his quote that he has completely forgotten that they participated in it at all. Or maybe his disdain for shows of that ilk is due to his experience. |
masterstroke_84 07.05.2007 15:41 |
I repeat, the participation in American Idol have NOTHING to do with this situation that a tv channel offered to Brian. He wasn't judging the kids... he was just talking with them and playing... the show was about Queen´s music so they appeared on the show. Do u understand that? |
drwinston 07.05.2007 15:59 |
masterstroke_84 wrote: I repeat, the participation in American Idol have NOTHING to do with this situation that a tv channel offered to Brian. He wasn't judging the kids... he was just talking with them and playing... the show was about Queen´s music so they appeared on the show. Do u understand that?Sure, I understand that American Idol is a show where contestants stand before a panel of judges. Have you seen it? Simon Cowell is famous for belittling people, just as Brian alluded to in his quote. I realize that Brian wasn't on the panel, but did he not participate on the show knowing how it works? He's a smart man - give him some credit. Look, Brian seems to be a great guy with a good heart, and its very possible that he wasn't aware of what went on AI when he participated. But the fact is that he did participate, whether he was on the panel or not. Not a big deal, but for him to put himself above such proceedings is odd considering his involvement in the past. I seriously think he forgot about it. It's not like it was the pinacle of his career or anything! Peace |
goinback 07.05.2007 16:53 |
I think his current attitude is A RESULT of being on American Idol last year. (Though he should have had the same attitude before that IMHO and never supported such trash to begin with.) |
coops 07.05.2007 16:59 |
gnomo wrote: ... if YOUR memory serves you right, you should remember they weren't on the panel: they were coaching the contestants, actually, not evaluating them, so I just can't see why you see a contradiction there...U.S. promoter " Brian, do you want to appear on American Idol"? Brian. " no, it's an appaling show. I will not lower myself or have anything to do with a show like that". Promoter " well, the tour is not going as well as we would likeand we have lots of tickets to sell. It will be good publicity". Brian, " I like Simon Cowell. When do we do the show"? I seem to remember Brian recently talking highly of Arther C. Clark. Isn't he a convicted child molestor? |
Adolfo and the spiders from Mercury 07.05.2007 17:33 |
drwinston wrote: Oh for God's sake, I'm as big a Queen - and Brian - fan as anyone here. But his "holier than thou" statement is pretty funny. His "I promise you'll never see us on a panel blah blah blah..." is pretty funny considering he was on a show setting people up to appear before the panel. I'm glad Brian supposedly feels this way, but a year ago he sure seemed to be all in favor of American Idol. I thought it was funny and a bout of old age, but the stepfords have to curse me for saying anything disparaging (Adolfo, you'll need to go look that word up) about their Hero. Hey Adolfo, it's a shame you exhausted your complete vocabulary (you'll have to look that word up as well) in your response. Otherwise you could participated further in the discussion.Fuck you |
Sebastian 07.05.2007 17:51 |
I seem to remember Brian recently talking highly of Arther C. Clark. Isn't he a convicted child molestor?Afaik, accusations were dismissed. And even if they were true, it doesn't mean his work can't be good. For instance, Michel Jackson's a paedophile and I hate him for that, but I love his music and the way he sang and danced. Still, if we want to speak about Brian's "excellent" taste, remember when he said that Beyoncé is a goddess? |
Boy Thomas Raker 07.05.2007 17:56 |
People let's get real here. The participation in American Idol was hypocritical by Brian. End of story. He used it as a means to expose the musical and the tour and anyone who believes otherwise is naive. Brian had spoken out against these reality shows well before last year (Mig from WWRY was a finalist for the INXS show and Brian spoke out on that in September 2005, a full 6 months before the were on AI.) To appear on AI and pretending not to know what it was all about is a stretch that defies comprehension. Remember, Roger and Brian were particularly bitter about The Sun and Rupert Murdoch hounding Freddie in the months leading up to his death. But when it came time to promote the musical in London, which paper did they go to? The Sun!!! Disgraceful, but the apologists will cut Brian slack on everything and anything. Separate Brian the musician from Brian the businessman. |
Sebastian 07.05.2007 18:28 |
Indeed. Being hypocrit is part of being in showbiz. Otherwise he'd simply be an astronomer uploading the odd video on youtube, but not a rock star. Sad but true. |
Boy Thomas Raker 07.05.2007 18:41 |
That's a valid point Sebastian, unfortunately, people here jump all over people who don't love everything Queen related. It's like Brian constantly complaining about Queen's pereception as a singles band. Yet they release every one of their singles on compilation albums in the album opening slot to help feed the QP coffers. Same as the musical and the tour. Song choices were made from the POV of putting bums in seats with zero risk. Apologists would say that's obviously the way to go as businessmen. I'd agree, but then don't complain when the press label you as a singles band when you leave out all of your early stuff from the musical and tour, which is infinitely superior to play the hits used to appease the middle of the road music fan! |
Voice of Reason 2018 08.05.2007 05:41 |
Well said Boy Thomas Baker and you beat me to it. 'Dear Mr Murdoch' gets followed up with a musical freebie in The Sun! Rock 'n' Roll! |
redspecial85 13.05.2007 00:59 |
Adolfo wrote: Fuck youYou're wrong Dr. Winston...he had two more words in his vocabulary than you previously assumed. |
redspecial85 13.05.2007 01:01 |
Ah great... My mistake, my computer is being troublesome. I take that back what I previously said. |
goinback 13.05.2007 16:35 |
Boy Thomas Raker wrote: That's a valid point Sebastian, unfortunately, people here jump all over people who don't love everything Queen related. It's like Brian constantly complaining about Queen's pereception as a singles band. Yet they release every one of their singles on compilation albums in the album opening slot to help feed the QP coffers. Same as the musical and the tour. Song choices were made from the POV of putting bums in seats with zero risk. Apologists would say that's obviously the way to go as businessmen. I'd agree, but then don't complain when the press label you as a singles band when you leave out all of your early stuff from the musical and tour, which is infinitely superior to play the hits used to appease the middle of the road music fan!Agreed! |
Oberon 21.05.2007 16:45 |
Well, yes it does seem as if there's hypocrisy there, but I don't think he's forgotten they were on AI or the comments he made about INXS. But, I'll give him some benefit of the doubt as there could have been other reasons for AI in addition to the obvious promotional angle. Perhaps AI were going to do a Queen night regardless, and Brian thought he might as well give the contestants any kind of help he could. It's the kind of way he'd think. He doesn't blame the people that take part (even though I think he said something like no real professional would dream of taking part in such things - maybe he should tell that to MiG?) Anyway, many of these business decisions may not be made by him and Roger. I think they leave many things up to Jim Beach and his team - hence the horrible Wembley tent, and probably using the Sun for promotion etc. Maybe I'm cutting him too much slack, and I know he's not perfect by any means, but equally I don't think he's heartless or intentionally hypocritical or capitalist in nature. Not in the core of his character. |
gnomo 28.05.2007 14:16 |
I totally agree. FWIW :-) |