| MarkieKnopflie 03.01.2007 15:22 |
Deaks is the best songwriter Roger could write a 100 songs, but maybe only 50 of his songs are good. Deaks not writes a lot of songs, but almost every song of him is great. He's the least populair but the best songwriter. |
| Carol! the Musical 03.01.2007 15:37 |
<font color=pink> Ni<font color= red>Co wrote: Roger could write a 100 songs, but maybe only 50 of his songs are good.I'd say less...... :P :000000 |
| 7 seas of Rhye 03.01.2007 16:42 |
Deaky is INCREDIBLE. But, he can't compare with Freddie. I love Spread Your Wings, Your My Best Friend, AOBTD, IWTBF, Misfire...but they are nowhere near Bohemian Rhapsody, My Fairy King, Somebody to Love, Love of my Life, In the Lap of the Gods...Revisited, Killer Queen, Liar.....the list continues. |
| Raststätte-Knödel 03.01.2007 16:49 |
You and I, In only seven days and If you can't beat them are so incredible too!! John really did a great job!! |
| its_a_hard_life 26994 03.01.2007 17:02 |
<font color=pink> Ni<font color= red>Co wrote: Deaks is the best songwriterThat's just your opinion. |
| MarkieKnopflie 03.01.2007 17:16 |
<font color="#FF00FF">its_a_hard_life wrote:Yes<font color=pink> Ni<font color= red>Co wrote: Deaks is the best songwriterThat's just your opinion. |
| user name 03.01.2007 17:17 |
Brian was fairly consistent, Freddie could be hit or miss, and Roger was more often miss than hit. John was pretty good, but like some of you said, his biggest downfall was how little songs he actually wrote. |
| FreMe 03.01.2007 17:17 |
In my eyes, Deaky has what Roger misses.. The ability to make music that doesn't make your ears bleed half of the time, and Roger had what Deaky was misses.. The ability to make his songs interesting. Most of Rogers songs is quite creative and could really be classy (like Radio GaGa or AKOM), but he manages to to screw the ryhtm some places, or does weird thing with the instruments that just isn't working. Deaky has never made an 'ear-bleader' (apart from YMBF which is a bit to me,but that just because I dont like the piano), but I think a lot of his songs is rather booring. The thing written above is only my personal opnion and pont of view! |
| Sweetie 03.01.2007 17:50 |
I'd Say Freddie Is |
| thomasquinn 32989 03.01.2007 18:28 |
<font color=pink> Ni<font color= red>Co wrote: Deaks is the best songwriter Roger could write a 100 songs, but maybe only 50 of his songs are good. Deaks not writes a lot of songs, but almost every song of him is great. He's the least populair but the best songwriter.Let's call it taste. That sounds so much nicer than 'ignorance'. ;-P |
| KillerQueen840 03.01.2007 20:51 |
I think Brian May's Prophet's Song is a very tough match. |
| KillerQueen840 03.01.2007 20:52 |
Sorry...computer froze...double post. |
| MarkieKnopflie 04.01.2007 04:59 |
Prophet song is brilliant!^ |
| Rikke 04.01.2007 05:19 |
You and I is def. one the greatest songs! Well, you're right, he is indeed very, very, very good, but I'm not sure I would say he's the best. I really love a lot of Brian's songs as well! And Freddie's.. And Roger's.. LOL |
| thomasquinn 32989 04.01.2007 06:44 |
Deaky wrote some good songs, and he wrote some crap (don't you dare forget 'Misfire', which was horrible), like the others. I call it a tie. |
| Gratzi 04.01.2007 07:22 |
Let's see: Deaky's songs are about friendship, love, & sometimes without a message. Roger's songs on the other hand are not so deep: he's criticising some mother ( Looser in the end), he's loving his car more than his girlfriend, he's calling all gils, etc. so they're kind of dry, apart from Innuendo, - this one isn't perfect either- its lyrics are pretty crapy. So between Rog & Deaky, I'd go for John. Brian & Freddie - that would be too much to comment. ( I have to go dry my hair) |
| brENsKi 04.01.2007 07:25 |
<font color=pink> Ni<font color= red>Co wrote: Deaks is the best songwriter Roger could write a 100 songs, but maybe only 50 of his songs are good. Deaks not writes a lot of songs, but almost every song of him is great. He's the least populair but the best songwriter.and the songs he wrote that weren't great were fucking abysmal No Turning Back (from Biggles) and that shit he did with Morris Minor |
| brENsKi 04.01.2007 07:28 |
<font color=lime>KillerQueen840 wrote: I think Brian May's Prophet's Song is a very tough match.the middle section of Prophet song is boring - it goes on too long and is only a Bo Rhap copy neither of which hold a candle to Somebody to Love / Don't Stop Me Now / Nevermore |
| thomasquinn 32989 04.01.2007 07:34 |
Gratzi wrote: Let's see: Deaky's songs are about friendship, love, & sometimes without a message. Roger's songs on the other hand are not so deep: he's criticising some mother ( Looser in the end), he's loving his car more than his girlfriend, he's calling all gils, etc. so they're kind of dry, apart from Innuendo, - this one isn't perfect either- its lyrics are pretty crapy. So between Rog & Deaky, I'd go for John. Brian & Freddie - that would be too much to comment. ( I have to go dry my hair)By grossly misinterpreting "Loser In The End" (and not being able to spell), you've ruined the rest of your message's credibility. Not that it made sense anyway, it was as well-presented as FOX-news. Not at all, that is. |
| brENsKi 04.01.2007 07:43 |
Gratzi wrote: Let's see: Deaky's songs are about friendship, love, & sometimes without a message. Roger's songs on the other hand are not so deep: he's criticising some mother ( Looser in the end), he's loving his car more than his girlfriend, he's calling all gils, etc. so they're kind of dry, apart from Innuendo, - this one isn't perfect either- its lyrics are pretty crapy. So between Rog & Deaky, I'd go for John. Brian & Freddie - that would be too much to comment. ( I have to go dry my hair)you are incredibly shallow in your interpretation IILWMC is about one of queen's roadies who was obsessed with his car One Vision - was originally about Martin Luther King These Are The Days - extremely deep |
| Raststätte-Knödel 04.01.2007 08:03 |
<font color=green>Bren<font color=orange>ski wrote:These are the days is really an awesome and beautiful song, one of my all time favesGratzi wrote: Let's see: Deaky's songs are about friendship, love, & sometimes without a message. Roger's songs on the other hand are not so deep: he's criticising some mother ( Looser in the end), he's loving his car more than his girlfriend, he's calling all gils, etc. so they're kind of dry, apart from Innuendo, - this one isn't perfect either- its lyrics are pretty crapy. So between Rog & Deaky, I'd go for John. Brian & Freddie - that would be too much to comment. ( I have to go dry my hair)you are incredibly shallow in your interpretation IILWMC is about one of queen's roadies who was obsessed with his car One Vision - was originally about Martin Luther King These Are The Days - extremely deep Brian May once said (on a dutch dcumentary I think) that I'm in love with my car was about Roger himself, but Rog pretended like it was written for someone else. |
| Gratzi 04.01.2007 08:15 |
Gratzi wrote: Let's see: Deaky's songs are about friendship, love, & sometimes without a message. Roger's songs on the other hand are not so deep: he's criticising some mother ( Looser in the end), he's loving his car more than his girlfriend, he's calling all gils, etc. so they're kind of dry, apart from Innuendo, - this one isn't perfect either- its lyrics are pretty crapy. So between Rog & Deaky, I'd go for John. Brian & Freddie - that would be too much to comment. ( I have to go dry my hair)sorry about that!!! I left it opened & my dad thought it would be a great idea to share his opinions. anyway I impart his opinion about John being better than Roger at this chapter. ( I wouldn't have said it that way, but still) In the end, I guess it's just a matter of taste. Sorry again if anybody felt offended..:) Cheers |
| Poo, again 04.01.2007 09:25 |
The Prophet's Song is still the best track on ANATO. Yes, it is. It really is. Because I say so. |
| sparrow 21754 04.01.2007 22:54 |
rain must fall makes me smile every time :-D look! its working right now! hehe |
| deleted user 05.01.2007 17:36 |
Why is this in Personal? I think it's a perfectly good topic for General Discussion;). Oh of course...we get a topic like this every other day and you don't wanna be slaughtered by those who get so snippy about a topic being brought up again and again. I understand dear...:D Hmmm... well I have to say that although Deaky is a very good songwriter, you can't possibly say he's the best, simply because he hasn't written enough to be compared with Freddie or Brian. I do prefer, overall, his writing to Roger's as they wrote roughly the same amount of songs they are more comparable as songwriters. The fact of the matter is they were/are a drummer and a bassist. Those two instruments don't leave much room for a creative song such as a imaginative frontman with a talent with a musical instrument (piano) or a very gifted guitarist. They are also the youngest members of the band. When starting out Rog and John were very young with stade sensible upbringing. With that makeup, of course their songs were going to be a bit 'boring' to begin with. John waited a while before he came out with 'Misfire' and I think that was sensible as it was clear that although it was his own style and taste, he'd learnt how to write a song from his own influences and possibly Brian and Freddie. Roger admitted himself that at the beginning his songs were far from brilliant. The thing with them both is that their songs appealed (again at the beginning) to really a small part of the spectrum. Some people consider YMBF for example, the sweetest pop song, me included, but others just find it unbearably cheesy. Songs like 'Loser in the End' and 'Tenement Funster' can't be perceived as cheesy, but as FreMe said 'ear-bleeders'. But then they appeal to others. I must say, they took a while to grow on me...but I enjoy Roger's vocals more than anything. However Roger's songs appealed to an even smaller end of the spectrum than John's, possibly because of the fact that Freddie sang John's. Sheer Heart Attack is one of my favourite Roger and Queen songs! I always find it amusing that Rog's success as a songwriter came in the 80s after Fred started singing his songs. I dunno...in the end they both came out with roughly the same amount of hits... that is to say compared with Freddie and Brian, not many but only because their lack of experience led to lack of songs produced. When they became more confident in their technique and technically better songwriters they produced some absolute gems which nobody else would've come up with! All the Queens are excellent songwriters in their own right. Oh Jesus sorry about that! |
| Raststätte-Knödel 05.01.2007 17:53 |
roger's songs aren't my faves. I like the calmer songs better, like You and I and Millionaire waltz etc. |
| Rick 06.01.2007 07:50 |
Edit: I changed my mind.. |
| brENsKi 06.01.2007 08:36 |
<font color=brianJM>RollingBowieQueen wrote: The fact of the matter is they were/are a drummer and a bassist. Those two instruments don't leave much room for a creative song such as a imaginative frontman with a talent with a musical instrument (piano) or a very gifted guitarist.really? Paul McCartney played bass and wrote half of the beatles hits |
| deleted user 06.01.2007 08:36 |
<font color=blue>Rick wrote: Edit: I changed my mind..About...? |
| Poo, again 06.01.2007 10:12 |
<font color=green>Bren<font color=orange>ski wrote:Paul is a very gifted multi-instrumentalist.<font color=brianJM>RollingBowieQueen wrote: The fact of the matter is they were/are a drummer and a bassist. Those two instruments don't leave much room for a creative song such as a imaginative frontman with a talent with a musical instrument (piano) or a very gifted guitarist.really? Paul McCartney played bass and wrote half of the beatles hits Don't know how advanced John's piano skills are, or how good Roger is at guitar. |
| Rick 06.01.2007 10:17 |
<font color=brianJM>RollingBowieQueen wrote:About this topic.<font color=blue>Rick wrote: Edit: I changed my mind..About...? His songs are too cheesy IMHO. Like he was addicted to love. |
| brENsKi 06.01.2007 10:29 |
<font color=pink>Account Deleted wrote:anyone who knows their queen history will also know that Roger was a frustrated guitarist...which is why he plays guitar on some of his solo stuff.<font color=green>Bren<font color=orange>ski wrote:Paul is a very gifted multi-instrumentalist. Don't know how advanced John's piano skills are, or how good Roger is at guitar.<font color=brianJM>RollingBowieQueen wrote: The fact of the matter is they were/are a drummer and a bassist. Those two instruments don't leave much room for a creative song such as a imaginative frontman with a talent with a musical instrument (piano) or a very gifted guitarist.really? Paul McCartney played bass and wrote half of the beatles hits the first beatles songs that used piano didn't appear til rubber soul (65)about five years after their first gig... uptil then Macca played bass. John played electric piano on YMBF (i think) so he was also a capable keyboard player by (75) - also fives years into queen's development. so your point is wide of the mark one other thing...i belive that Macca played by ear back then. don't know what his notation ability is these days |
| Poo, again 06.01.2007 13:25 |
<font color=green>Bren<font color=orange>ski wrote:What about the early "Money (That's what I want)" cover? They sure used a piano there. It's on their second album, Mr. Wise Guy.<font color=pink>Account Deleted wrote:anyone who knows their queen history will also know that Roger was a frustrated guitarist...which is why he plays guitar on some of his solo stuff. the first beatles songs that used piano didn't appear til rubber soul (65)about five years after their first gig... uptil then Macca played bass. John played electric piano on YMBF (i think) so he was also a capable keyboard player by (75) - also fives years into queen's development. so your point is wide of the mark one other thing...i belive that Macca played by ear back then. don't know what his notation ability is these days<font color=green>Bren<font color=orange>ski wrote:Paul is a very gifted multi-instrumentalist. Don't know how advanced John's piano skills are, or how good Roger is at guitar.<font color=brianJM>RollingBowieQueen wrote: The fact of the matter is they were/are a drummer and a bassist. Those two instruments don't leave much room for a creative song such as a imaginative frontman with a talent with a musical instrument (piano) or a very gifted guitarist.really? Paul McCartney played bass and wrote half of the beatles hits And I am fully aware of that John plays piano, and Roger can play guitar. I don't really see your point here. You just like to sound smart, don't you? And I believe Macca still can't read sheet music. EDIT: I just did some research, and I don't think any of the Beatles played piano on "Money". I believe it was George Martin. But of course, you already knew that, didn't you? |
| Poo, again 06.01.2007 13:32 |
I did some further research, and it appears Paul played piano on You're Going To Lose That Girl, which is on Help. And doesn't the fact that Paul played "bass, drums, acoustic guitar, lead guitar, piano, Mellotron, organ, toy xylophone and bow and arrow" on his first solo album according to himself make him a gifted multi-instrumentalist? |
| MarkieKnopflie 06.01.2007 15:01 |
Have you guys ever heard " who needs you?" |
| deleted user 06.01.2007 19:21 |
<font color=pink> Ni<font color= red>Co wrote: Have you guys ever heard " who needs you?"'I make it half past six, you come at seven/Always tryin' to keep me hanging round...' Yup...John's a good wee rhythm guitarist, but the song's almost unbearably cheesy:D. The lyrics are so...twee. Heheh...I love it!! Can't help it. Maybe it's the irony of John calling a girl a 'spoilt thing' two years after calling a girl his 'best friend'. Wonder if the songs are about the same woman (ie. Veronica) guess we'll never know... Hardly the best song on NOTW which is actually a very good album darling. You don't need me to tell you that 'Spread Your Wings' is so much better. Now that's a great song:D :D |
| Winter Land Man 07.01.2007 01:10 |
7 seas of Rhye wrote: Deaky is INCREDIBLE. But, he can't compare with Freddie. I love Spread Your Wings, Your My Best Friend, AOBTD, IWTBF, Misfire...but they are nowhere near Bohemian Rhapsody, My Fairy King, Somebody to Love, Love of my Life, In the Lap of the Gods...Revisited, Killer Queen, Liar.....the list continues.As the person said, he wrote the least but the majority were hits. What's the only single that wasn't a hit by JD? Back Chat? Need Your Loving Tonight? |
| Winter Land Man 07.01.2007 01:13 |
Gratzi wrote: Let's see: Deaky's songs are about friendship, love, & sometimes without a message. Roger's songs on the other hand are not so deep: he's criticising some mother ( Looser in the end), he's loving his car more than his girlfriend, he's calling all gils, etc. so they're kind of dry, apart from Innuendo, - this one isn't perfect either- its lyrics are pretty crapy. So between Rog & Deaky, I'd go for John. Brian & Freddie - that would be too much to comment. ( I have to go dry my hair)Roger wrote Innuendo? :-P |
| brENsKi 07.01.2007 11:13 |
<font color=pink>Account Deleted wrote: 1. What about the early "Money (That's what I want)" cover? They sure used a piano there. It's on their second album, Mr. Wise Guy. 2. And I am fully aware of that John plays piano, and Roger can play guitar. I don't really see your point here. 3. You just like to sound smart, don't you? 4. And I believe Macca still can't read sheet music. 5.EDIT: I just did some research, and I don't think any of the Beatles played piano on "Money". I believe it was George Martin. But of course, you already knew that, didn't you? 6. I did some further research, and it appears Paul played piano on You're Going To Lose That Girl, which is on Help. 7. And doesn't the fact that Paul played "bass, drums, acoustic guitar, lead guitar, piano, Mellotron, organ, toy xylophone and bow and arrow" on his first solo album according to himself make him a gifted multi-instrumentalist?1. well as you already corrected yourself - yes GM did play on Money- so why not apologise instead of being sarky? 2. the point was that John was playing piano at roughly the same stage of the band's career as macca was...ie five years 3. no i don't - i was trying to be informative. if i said something inaccurate you wouldn't let it go would you?...why let people think an inaccuracy is a fact? 4. which is more or less what i said 5. yes i did. 6. my apologies. wrong album...but Crucially - for the point i was making - SAME YEAR - 1965. as i said that both Macca and John played piano on albums at the five-years stage of the bands' careers? 7. i think JD was also playing other instruments - incl lead, rhythm, keybd etc by 10 years stage of queen's career - ie 1982...didn't he play loads of shit on the game, flash and hot space including guitars and synths - which is what Macca was doing...as much of what you mentioned were keyboards...then the only real difference was drums |
| bitesthedust 07.01.2007 11:40 |
I do not believe one of them was a better songwriter than any of the others. All four of them wrote great songs and all had their own styles (and variations in those), which is what made the band so varied in their work. Just some examples.... Brian: It's Late, '39, Teo Torriatte, Dead On Time, Sleeping On The Sidewalk Freddie: Liar, In The Lap Of The Gods . . . revisited, Love Of My Life, Keep Passing The Open Windows, Stone Cold Crazy John: You're My Best Friend, If You Can't Beat Them, Who Needs You, One Year Of Love, Another One Bites The Dust Roger: Modern Times Rock N Roll, Tenement Funster, Drowse, Radio Ga Ga, These Are The Days Of Our Lives |