| ilvcats 22.08.2006 16:14 |
I was watching the Queen DVD "The Making of A Night at the Opera" and they said that Freddie wrote "Love of My Life" for Mary. In terms of soul mates, in your opinion, was Mary the love of Freddie's life? |
| rocks. 22.08.2006 16:15 |
Well, I dont feel like I should comment because I really dont know, but as for Love Of My Life, I do NOT think it was written about Mary or anybody in particular. |
| deadbird 22.08.2006 16:25 |
well, i think thats silly of you. If Freddie was honest to his heart in anyway at all in his life, itw as through his music. Freddie called Mary his common law wife, a love irreplacable in his heart with any man, ever-- his best friend, his OLD real friend, many more things. All those were from quotes... much more striking directly from the man himself. Beatutiful, quiet little Mary proabably has secrets stored up in her heart that no one will ever know of Freddie's character and person. If theres anyone I'm convinced Freddie undoubtable loved-- It's Mary. in answer to your question: Yes. I think she was the love of his life and the muse for the song, which was written at the EXACT time that Freddie and Mary split from living together, when night at the opera was in session. he didnt write things for nothing. oh, please dont be one of those people how thinks he did. |
| rocks. 22.08.2006 16:27 |
You think it's silly of me not to comment one Freddie's life with Mary? Just because Freddie had written that song that happened to be about love does NOT mean it had to do with Mary, and FYI, they split up in '76. |
| deadbird 22.08.2006 16:42 |
WhatMustHeThink wrote: You think it's silly of me not to comment one Freddie's life with Mary? Just because Freddie had written that song that happened to be about love does NOT mean it had to do with Mary, and FYI, they split up in '76.hmm. ok, I'll clairify. WHat I thought was silly was saying that the song was not only not written for Mary, but not written for anything specific at all. That it was just willy nilly: pulled out of Freddie's butt. Thats the idea your comment closed with, and that was the main idea I picked up on describing after the "silly" commment I made... I think. If you've ever seen the untold story, (and I also think its in the magazine interview mAry had,) Mary will tell you that when she was really able to see the "change" in Freddie was right when they SWITCHED to the record label that would be with them when they created Night at the Opera, and had just moved into their new shared flat that the money allowed. THATS when things became difficult, when Freddie finally admitted his tendancy towards men to her, and that Mary... (this part is always hazily reported) was planning to move out, hence the breakup. (Freddie didnt wnat this apprently, and made her live at least close enought o him to see eachother through windows.) I'm not one of those "i think I remember some fact and it works to my advantage here" people. I say something if its right. and, by the way, when did I say that because it had to do with love it had to do with Mary? thats not what I said. but there are people who knew a man (Freddie) who you never ever ever knew, and they have said this song was about Mary Austin. Mary has been called the love of Freddie's live BY freddie, the content of the song seems to match the situation, and I dont believe that Freddie wrote songs full of bullshit. but hey, if you do, thats cool with me. |
| rocks. 22.08.2006 16:52 |
I do NOT think the song was bullshit, I just meant that I dont believe it was to do with anybody in particular!!! I know I could be wrong, but thats just the way I interpret it. I dont think he pulled it out of his ass, but that doesnt mean it absolutly HAS to do about something, it could be a sub-concious double meaning, but that doesnt mean he cant write beautiful songs without them HAVING to be about somebody. |
| deadbird 22.08.2006 17:03 |
...ok then. I mean, thats totally cool, (what you think) and I'm sorry if I came off on you too hard. But to me, when a song is "about nothing" actually, but maybe about something deep in the subcontious... without, actual substance... no, i dont really beileve thats how it goes. at all. Its sort of hippyish feeling to me: or maybe just high school-ish. like, check out this poem I'm about to write. I swallow the deep eons of the cloth, the depth, oh, quick suffocation, as the edges of light brim apon him again, for one to dream is to lie. before the road I stand, and again call, crow, I am here. Raven, I am here. so... whats this about? ...whats it ABOUT? who CARES! just dig the deepness, right??? no. it's about nothing. I dont believe Freddie wrote about something his heart wasnt actually physically and emotionally experienceing, is what I'm saying. I do not believe that. Not for a song like this. My intention also is NOT to come down on you, but rather to just stste my opinion. It doesnt mena you ahve to change yours-- not at all. (this isnt sarcasm or anything.) |
| rocks. 22.08.2006 17:14 |
Oh, hun, this is just a nice debate, no hard feelings!!! :D I do believe that his heart and sould was deffinitly in there, I believe his heart and soul was in each and every song he wrote, without them specifically being about anybody in particular. That doesnt by and means mean that the song has more or less subatance, its just the way I feel. I dont mean it was "about nothing". it was for sure about something, just not SOMEONE! |
| deadbird 22.08.2006 17:24 |
WhatMustHeThink wrote: Oh, hun, this is just a nice debate, no hard feelings!!! :D I do believe that his heart and sould was deffinitly in there, I believe his heart and soul was in each and every song he wrote, without them specifically being about anybody in particular. That doesnt by and means mean that the song has more or less subatance, its just the way I feel. I dont mean it was "about nothing". it was for sure about something, just not SOMEONE!And thats... that seems to be the one place we disagree. To me, if it was not about someone, than it was not about a particular sitauation. Hence... it was not about actually immiately SOMTHING, it was not CATULLY waht the contents of the song describe. This leaves the alternative, which is that it was created form some lauphty idea that wasnt actually occuring in Freddie's life at the present time. Thats what i called bullshit. Thats what I still dont think is the case. |
| rocks. 22.08.2006 18:04 |
When I say something, I mean something inside him. :D |
| deadbird 22.08.2006 20:52 |
WhatMustHeThink wrote: When I say something, I mean something inside him. :Dand when I say "somthing inside him" is unspecific enough to kind of not be valid, I mean ... well, go back to that peom I wrote. read it. Maybe thats "somthing inside me." maybe I could write a poem about the tragic death of my best friend. But... that wouldnt be, genuine, heartfelt, honest or TRUE to who I am and what I know and what i feel right now. writing a poem about the pain my herat is feeling is a heck of a lot differnt than that crap thats written above. It would be, firsta nd formost, REAL poetry. This is my opinion. and I think Freddie wrote honestly from his heart, and in this song: its not very vauge. its a situation hes writing about and a person. to make that up: to make up that sorrow in a random story form: seesm kind of low and empty to me. Again, I dont think its just about "diggin the deepness." this was freddie's lagitimate heart... and I am just about done with this debate. If I could see your hand, I'd shake it. |
| rocks. 22.08.2006 21:30 |
Ok, you get to have your last say, and I get to have mine :) I honestly think if you can write a feeling thats inside you, and it can be real and genuine, not low as you put it, without something really having to happen to spark it, it's just a feeling you have inside of you. As humans, I believe we as humans have a bottomless well of feelings, (at least most of us), and Freddie as a creative person probably had more that he could call on, and make it mean something. Without it having to be about somebody. Without it being low or shallow. *shakes virtual hand* :) |
| deadbird 22.08.2006 21:49 |
I just dont think we understand echother. but I'm cool with that. what else can we do... virtually? dunanunadunanuna... |
| rocks. 22.08.2006 21:58 |
deadbird wrote: I just dont think we understand echother. but I'm cool with that. what else can we do... virtually? dunanunadunanuna...Heehee, I understand you, I just dont agree, lol! |
| deadbird 23.08.2006 05:33 |
....no. I dont think you do. anyway back to the Mary Thing. basically, dude who started this post... I think that when Freddie serenaded and called SOMEONE the LOVE of his LIFE, it was a big enough statement that he had someone in mind. the other guy thinks that it was no one in particulaur-- just "something inside him" emotionally. those who knew him side with me. but take your pick, thats the beauty of... um.... something.... |
| deleted user 23.08.2006 06:14 |
freddie did say that he used his real life experiences with love and heartbreak as material for his songs, but not every song is strictly autobiographical. he might have been writing about a specific person, sure, but he might also have been writing about a situation(lost love, pining and whatnot) based on experiences-so, it could be about SEVeral specific people. also, when you're reading freddie's lyrics, remember this: "The structure of the melody comes easy to me, it's the lyrical content that I find hard, cause I'm not a poet, I just like to write nice little catchy tunes that's basically what I like to do. In term of the lyrical content that's difficult. So I have to work on that part of it. The other side seems to come... it's easier for me to write a melody and a structure but in terms of the actual lyric I find that hard because I'm not a poet and I hate writing lyrics anyway." and i'm not trying to say that his lyrics were meaningless or unimportant, just that they were less central to his creative expression than they would be to a person like, say, john lennon. |
| Poo, again 23.08.2006 07:30 |
Whatever, can't the man just write a song? I don't think you need to have someone particular in mind when writing a love song, as long as it's good. |
| deleted user 23.08.2006 07:46 |
I think it was written about Mary... Oh wait, I dont think :S Dont trust me then. |
| magicalfreddiemercury 23.08.2006 08:13 |
macbethscrazywife wrote: "The structure of the melody comes easy to me, it's the lyrical content that I find hard, cause I'm not a poet, I just like to write nice little catchy tunes that's basically what I like to do. In term of the lyrical content that's difficult. So I have to work on that part of it. The other side seems to come... it's easier for me to write a melody and a structure but in terms of the actual lyric I find that hard because I'm not a poet and I hate writing lyrics anyway." and i'm not trying to say that his lyrics were meaningless or unimportant, just that they were less central to his creative expression than they would be to a person like, say, john lennon.I'm not so sure about that. Just because lyrics didn't come easy to him, doesn't mean it's less central to his creative expression. It could be that there was a preciseness he wanted to convey and had to work harder to achieve that. Especially if his lyrics WERE personal. He'd want(I assume) a certain quality of writing, a certain emotion, but also to maintain a certain distance so critics (and us) couldn't pinpoint the meaning behind everything he said. Who knows, he could have jotted down first-thought lyrics we would have loved, while he might have considered them gibberish. Just think, Freddie might have been satisfied with a few 'meows' in a song, but would he have been satisfied with several 'goo goo g'joobs'? :-/ |
| thenymphinyellow 23.08.2006 08:21 |
okay well not that anyone cares but heres what i think: a while ago i cant remember what I actually saw it on but I remember freddie saying that Love of my Life was written for Mary as like a dont worry, thank you and I love you song all mixed together. I cant remember exactly what he said but it was something along those lines... so I believe that it was written for her. anyway it doesnt really matter! pretend he wrote it for you!! hehe! gosh I wish someone would write me a beautiful song like that! :D anyway, See ya later aligator! |
| deadbird 23.08.2006 14:34 |
<font color=pink>The Millionaire Waltz wrote: Whatever, can't the man just write a song? I don't think you need to have someone particular in mind when writing a love song, as long as it's good.If you dont think an argument is worth discussing, theres this amazing thing you can do. you can not say anything about it. You dont have to come and COMMENT, no ones making you, be we have the freedom if we want, thanks. saying "who cares" makes you sortof... well, care. |
| dont try suicide 23.08.2006 14:50 |
if mary wasn't the love of his life then why did he leave all his money and his mansion to her? mary was the only person he really cared about, besides his family. answer me that dude where's my car. |
| deleted user 23.08.2006 14:51 |
magicalfreddiemercury wrote:i'm not quite sure what your final point is...like i said, i'm not trying to entirely trivialize his lyrics, but i think when he says "I just like to write nice little catchy tunes that's basically what I like to do," it's pretty clear. the melody is more important to him-one of the things he excelled at. you can tell more about his state of mind from listening to the tune than you can from listening to the lyrics-take innuendo, don't even the most cheerful, funny songs on there sound a little dour? maybe it's just me projecting, idk.macbethscrazywife wrote: "The structure of the melody comes easy to me, it's the lyrical content that I find hard, cause I'm not a poet, I just like to write nice little catchy tunes that's basically what I like to do. In term of the lyrical content that's difficult. So I have to work on that part of it. The other side seems to come... it's easier for me to write a melody and a structure but in terms of the actual lyric I find that hard because I'm not a poet and I hate writing lyrics anyway." and i'm not trying to say that his lyrics were meaningless or unimportant, just that they were less central to his creative expression than they would be to a person like, say, john lennon.I'm not so sure about that. Just because lyrics didn't come easy to him, doesn't mean it's less central to his creative expression. It could be that there was a preciseness he wanted to convey and had to work harder to achieve that. Especially if his lyrics WERE personal. He'd want(I assume) a certain quality of writing, a certain emotion, but also to maintain a certain distance so critics (and us) couldn't pinpoint the meaning behind everything he said. Who knows, he could have jotted down first-thought lyrics we would have loved, while he might have considered them gibberish. Just think, Freddie might have been satisfied with a few 'meows' in a song, but would he have been satisfied with several 'goo goo g'joobs'? :-/ |
| deleted user 23.08.2006 14:55 |
donttrysuicide wrote: if mary wasn't the love of his life then why did he leave all his money and his mansion to her? mary was the only person he really cared about, besides his family. answer me that dude where's my car.well, this isn't the final word, but someone on another thread said jim said(ooh, i'm a poet! lol), “At that stage, Freddie already knew that I was HIV positive. He knew that Joe Fanelli had Aids and would die soon. He had to be realistic. Had he left the bulk of his estate to me, here would it have ended up if I passed away?” |
| rocks. 23.08.2006 15:18 |
thenymphinyellow wrote: okay well not that anyone cares but heres what i think: a while ago i cant remember what I actually saw it on but I remember freddie saying that Love of my Life was written for Mary as like a dont worry, thank you and I love you song all mixed together. I cant remember exactly what he said but it was something along those lines... so I believe that it was written for her.Can you try try try TRY to find where you saw that? Please? WHat year even?? |
| queen mercury 33542 23.08.2006 15:45 |
2If Freddie and Mary split up in Seventy-six, then maybe love of my life was based on his fear of telling her about his fondness toward guys, and his fear of her departure. It's a beautiful song, and I do think Mary was the love of Freddie's life, alongside Mr. Hutton and Barbara Valentine, who he did love. |
| Breakthru27 23.08.2006 16:00 |
I bought that DVD the other day. I don't think they ever say that Freddie wrote it about Mary. If I remember correctly, they just insinuate that was the case. BTW, I thought the DVD was excellent. I didn't know what to expect, but I found Brian May and Roy Thomas Baker talking about piecing together songs fascinating. |
| unknown 23.08.2006 16:25 |
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| rocks. 23.08.2006 16:30 |
Breakthru27 wrote: BTW, I thought the DVD was excellent. I didn't know what to expect, but I found Brian May and Roy Thomas Baker talking about piecing together songs fascinating.I loved it too, fantastic, I think the special features with Roger were AWESOME, IE, half a sonic volcano! And how the album got its name, lmao, FUCKEN SING! |
| deleted user 23.08.2006 16:58 |
ilvcats wrote: I was watching the Queen DVD "The Making of A Night at the Opera" and they said that Freddie wrote "Love of My Life" for Mary. In terms of soul mates, in your opinion, was Mary the love of Freddie's life?yes :) sweet isn't it,because they were going out for 7yrs but then Freddie was bi-sexual so they just kinda became best best best friends :D |
| AmeriQueen 24.08.2006 05:26 |
Most likely, the correct answer known, if anyone does no, would be knowledge from a person not on this board. |
| deleted user 24.08.2006 05:39 |
true that. but we're a speculative lot. |
| Stoner 18.11.2007 20:44 |
"love of my life" was about his cat, who probably ran away. That's irony for you. Just like every other love song he ever wrote. They were about CATS. ALL OF THEM. Trust me it's very easy to fall in love with a crazy feline and call it silly names and sing jingles and make up serious love songs to it all day long. My mom has one. He has hundreds of names and about 20 songs she sings to him, some of them she made up, and he luvs it. Oh, she is obsessed with that cat. She likes him better than ME. BAH! |
| QueenMercury46 19.11.2007 01:18 |
ilvcats wrote: I was watching the Queen DVD "The Making of A Night at the Opera" and they said that Freddie wrote "Love of My Life" for Mary. In terms of soul mates, in your opinion, was Mary the love of Freddie's life?No. He wrote the song personally for you. Now go your merry way and keep that in your mind forever. |
| Stoner 19.11.2007 03:15 |
<font color="sky blue">QueenMercury46 wrote:ilvcats wrote: I was watching the Queen DVD "The Making of A Night at the Opera" and they said that Freddie wrote "Love of My Life" for Mary. In terms of soul mates, in your opinion, was Mary the love of Freddie's life?MARY IS A SHAM/HEARTLESS SHREW/COLD FRIGID WITCH. |
| Stoner 19.11.2007 03:20 |
donttrysuicide wrote:well, this isn't the final word, but someone on another thread said jim said(ooh, i'm a poet! lol), “At that stage, Freddie already knew that I was HIV positive. He knew that Joe Fanelli had Aids and would die soon. He had to be realistic. Had he left the bulk of his estate to me, here would it have ended up if I passed away?” SO.....IS JIM HUTTON STILL ALIVE? I WAS JUST CURIOUS. |