| another one diets the bust 26.07.2006 15:23 |
so this is NOT the usual "what are your favourite queen songs?" thingie, this is something far more tricky. if you were supposed to be a queen cover band, what would your setlist look like? before putting songs into a setlist, there has to be kind of a structure. so how would you work out that structure? the following questions may give you an idea of what i was thinking about: - what would be an approximate running time? - how many songs would you put in? - would there be any restrictions? (for example: "only 1 song from every Queen album") - would you do some acoustics somewhere in the set? if yes, where would you place it? - how would you choose the songs to play? (remember: it would not be just for yourself!) - would you just play what queen did? or would you at least try something around? (like playing something live, Queen never played live for some reason) - as time might be quite limited: of course you would have to play some of Queen's biggest hits, but how much of your set would be in for that? 50%? more? less? - audience participation always has been an important thing to Queen. how much attention you would pay to that? these are just a few questions that came to my mind, there might be a lot more. we might do some second step later and put some songs in, but first let's talk about step one: the general structure. |
| Micrówave 26.07.2006 18:33 |
another one diets the bust wrote: - what would be an approximate running time?45 minutes, tops. - how many songs would you put in?6 - would there be any restrictions?No synthesizers. - would you do some acoustics somewhere in the set? if yes, where would you place it?No, acoustic guitars are for losers. - how would you choose the songs to play?Alphabetically - would you just play what queen did?Mainly. - as time might be quite limited: of course you would have to play some of Queen's biggest hits, but how much of your set would be in for that? 50%? more? less?Zero. Deep cuts only. Mistakes are less obvious that way. - audience participation always has been an important thing to Queen. how much attention you would pay to that?None at all. If they'd like to get up here and give it a try, take my leotards... |
| AmeriQueen 27.07.2006 05:58 |
Procession Now I'm Here Dead On Time Made In Heaven Someday One Day The Fairy Feller's Master Stroke Hang On In There Las Palabras Doing Alright Dragon Attack White Man The Prophet Song(classic live vocal solo) Rain Must Fall Keep Yourself Alive Brighton Rock Solo Chinese Water Torture Last Horizon Misfire It's Late The Millionare Waltz Long Away In The Lap, Revisited ------------------- Liar Drowse I Want It All The March of the Black Queen |
| The Fairy King 27.07.2006 06:05 |
AmeriQueen wrote: Procession Now I'm Here Dead On Time Made In Heaven Someday One Day The Fairy Feller's Master Stroke Hang On In There Las Palabras Doing Alright Dragon Attack White Man The Prophet Song(classic live vocal solo) Rain Must Fall Keep Yourself Alive Brighton Rock Solo Chinese Water Torture Last Horizon Misfire It's Late The Millionare Waltz Long Away In The Lap, Revisited ------------------- Liar Drowse I Want It All The March of the Black QueenIf you add Yeah to that list, it's brilliant. |
| another one diets the bust 27.07.2006 07:14 |
AmeriQueen wrote:nice setlist indeed, but that wasn't exactly what i wanted opinions about at the moment ;) but well, i do find at least some questions answered between those songs. so 25 songs is quite much i think, would be about 2 hrs. remember you were supposed to be 'just' a cover band, not Queen themselves ;) if i could tell any restriction out of that it might be "avoid the hits"? i think there would be some acoustics as well, even if you didn't mark them. but the prophetsong-vocalsolo at least indicates something. i had that in mind too, so it seems that idea might be not bad :) i see mostly songs Queen did on at least some tour, but nice to see there would be even some they never did :) the only thing i really can't tell from that setlist is the thingie about audience participation: not that may singalongs there, except for thelapofthegods? |
| Jay Mantis 27.07.2006 07:15 |
Day At The Races Intro We Will Rock You (fast) Modern Times Rock 'n Roll (fluently changes from WWRY) Tie Your Mother Down Play The Game Sail Away Sweet Sister White Queen Medley: Now I'm Here Freddie's Vocal Improvisation Put Out The Fire Dragon Attack Hangman Now I'm Here (Reprise) Another One Bites The Dust Somebody to Love Seven Seas of Rhye Doing All Right You Take My Breath Away '39 Love of My Life My Melancholy Blues The Prophet's Song Brighton Rock (solo only) Keep Yourself Alive Bohemian Rhapsody In The Lap of The Gods...Revisited Encores: Liar The Night Comes Down (parts) Jesus We Will Rock You We Are The Champions God Save The Queen Alright so this concert may last for about 2 and half hours or more but it will certainly entertain! :-P |
| DeeEmm 27.07.2006 07:23 |
It would be funky to do tours based on the albums. As in, the Queen II tour would do the songs from Queen II, nothing else (well, maybe a little else) but all songs would get played. Mind you, that would completely slay us dead considering we have to play every single song in their catalogue live, but who cares. |
| another one diets the bust 27.07.2006 07:35 |
« Jay » wrote: Alright so this concert may last for about 2 and half hours or more but it will certainly entertain! :-Pindeed ... well, seems i have to analyse myself now with all those setlits ;p general question: do cover bands play sets of those dimensions? i already listened to some, but most seem to do much shorter gigs. there seems to be something of everything, so obviously i couldn't tell any restrictions. i also spotted something looking like acoustic songs (YTMBA/'39/LOML/MMB)? :) some familiar things like closing with WWRY/WATC are there as well, but almost nothing Queen didn't play live? well, to be fair, some of the songs indeed weren't played for over 30 years, so maybe that might count almost as well ;) |
| another one diets the bust 27.07.2006 07:40 |
DeeEmm wrote: It would be funky to do tours based on the albums. As in, the Queen II tour would do the songs from Queen II, nothing else (well, maybe a little else) but all songs would get played.wasn't this something Roger's TheCross used to do? i remember their setlists always to contain very much if not all of their recent album and mostly nothing else ;) |
| Jay Mantis 27.07.2006 08:09 |
another one diets the bust wrote:I've heard some cover bands playing very long sets, not sure if played ones longer then 2 hours.« Jay » wrote: Alright so this concert may last for about 2 and half hours or more but it will certainly entertain! :-Pindeed ... well, seems i have to analyse myself now with all those setlits ;p general question: do cover bands play sets of those dimensions? i already listened to some, but most seem to do much shorter gigs. there seems to be something of everything, so obviously i couldn't tell any restrictions. i also spotted something looking like acoustic songs (YTMBA/'39/LOML/MMB)? :) some familiar things like closing with WWRY/WATC are there as well, but almost nothing Queen didn't play live? well, to be fair, some of the songs indeed weren't played for over 30 years, so maybe that might count almost as well ;) Also including full versions of songs like March of The Black Queen and The Fairy Fellers Master-Stroke are cool but let's be realistic, those are impossible to play live! So I decided to choose a more realistic approach. :-) |
| Al TurHao 27.07.2006 08:14 |
Yes, let us imagine. "Restrictions?" It all depends on the show itself; "Acoustic Set?" Place it the middle, right after a hard-rock noisy song with a blaster finale. "Play like Queen? Or would you at least try something around?" Depends on the songs. It's interesting and fun to versionate WWRY, but I would not dare to change a note on BohRhap. "Playing something live, Queen never played live for some reason)" OF COURSE. True fans will appreciate and the lack of comparisons to Queen's version is always a bonus. "But first let's talk about step one: the general structure..." Well, I actually HAVE a tribute band to Queen, and came up with the responsability of choosing the set list. You see, the first two were outdoor gigs and a set list, must reflect the type of concert/audience. In my case, it was a concert to mainstream audiences. Nevertheless, I did managed to include something for the die-hard fans, even snippets that were not reharsed. Notice that a set list MUST NOT be just what you like to play, it should be what works best for that situation and also the combination and order of the songs are crucial. No-one wants the drummer to have a heart-attack, for instance, or the singer's voice to collapse. These and many other factor should be taken into consideration. Anyway here's the main set list I performed to a mainstream audience (variety of albuns, tribute to various Queen setlists over the years, original medley 'cause you must have a medley, acoustic set...) Intro: Fat Bottomed Girls (A Cappella) Tie Your Mother Down I Want To Break Free Radio Ga Ga Medley: Another One Bites The Dust / Good Old Fashioned Lover Boy / Killer Queen / Somebody To Love / 7 Seas of Rhye / Spread Your Wings / The Night Comes Down / Tenement Funster / Save Me (Acoustic) '39 Love of My Life (Add-lib: In The Lap of The Gods.. Revisited) One Vision (Intro) Innuendo More Of That Jazz (intro) Under Pressure Add-Lib: Impromptu Crazy Little Thing Called Love A Kind Of Magic Show Must Go On Doin' Alright (Intro) Bohemian Rhapsody Encores: We Will Rock You We Are The Champions |
| Al TurHao 27.07.2006 08:23 |
Of course that, if I were to play to a fan convention, things would be different. I think I have already enough "greatest hits". Now it's the time to start adding 70's stuff... Today I'm reharsing White Queen, Death On 2 Legs and I want it all. Just as an extra information, Bohemian Rhapsody was played in its entirity (with a Choir and all) and Innuendo was also played as the original album version (with flamenco guitars and handclapping and all that stuff...) ;) |
| another one diets the bust 27.07.2006 08:32 |
Al TurHao wrote: Of course that, if I were to play to a fan convention, things would be different. I think I have already enough "greatest hits". Now it's the time to start adding 70's stuff... Today I'm reharsing White Queen, Death On 2 Legs and I want it all. Just as an extra information, Bohemian Rhapsody was played in its entirity (with a Choir and all) and Innuendo was also played as the original album version (with flamenco guitars and handclapping and all that stuff...) ;)sounds nice, you're still 'touring'? ;) |
| another one diets the bust 27.07.2006 08:36 |
well, how long is the show? something about 90 minutes i'd guess? and if you say you'll put in some more 70s' stuff, that would mean, you'd drop something else? |
| Al TurHao 27.07.2006 08:55 |
Your guess is right: 90 minutes. the 70's stuff will be ADDED to the possible choices, but I will drop out Innuendo from the current shows, because of logistical isshues (too many guitars on stage, difficulty of the track, although it turned out great). I will, however, continue to reharse it and play it in special ocasions (it's the song I most enjoy playing). |
| FreMe 27.07.2006 09:04 |
I was supposed to be so, I would have to learn to sing, or at least play an instrument at first :P |
| bitesthedust 27.07.2006 14:41 |
- what would be an approximate running time? an hour, hour and a half.... - how many songs would you put in? 17/18...20 tops. - would there be any restrictions? (for example: "only 1 song from every Queen album") I'd look to do at least 1 song from each album. - would you do some acoustics somewhere in the set? if yes, where would you place it? in the middle, 2 or 3. - how would you choose the songs to play? (remember: it would not be just for yourself!) get a general vote. - would you just play what queen did? or would you at least try something around? (like playing something live, Queen never played live for some reason) I'd try Dead On Time. - as time might be quite limited: of course you would have to play some of Queen's biggest hits, but how much of your set would be in for that? 50%? more? less? probably 50% - audience participation always has been an important thing to Queen. how much attention you would pay to that? the hits would encourage that by themselves. Procession Dead On Time Stone Cold Crazy White Queen Staying Power I Want It All Spread Your Wings '39 Save Me Crazy Little Thing Called Love Under Pressure It's Late Now I'm Here Liar Another One Bites The Dust Hammer To Fall The Show Must Go On We Will Rock You Bohemian Rhapsody In The Lap Of The Gods . . . revisited |
| koldweather123 28.07.2006 06:22 |
- what would be an approximate running time? Hmm, I'd probably do quite a long show, I'm not quite sure how long but it'd be over 2hrs for sure. - how many songs would you put in? About 30 seems like a reasonable guess, probably between 30-33 songs though some would be quite short and I'd include two meledies. - would there be any restrictions? (for example: "only 1 song from every Queen album") No. - would you do some acoustics somewhere in the set? if yes, where would you place it? Probably only love of my life - how would you choose the songs to play? (remember: it would not be just for yourself!) I'd probably try and mix the big hits with some lesser hits so to speak. - would you just play what queen did? or would you at least try something around? (like playing something live, Queen never played live for some reason) Oh there'd be several of those, apart the Miricle and Innuendo, I'd also play the first minute of the Hitman, gimme the Prize - as time might be quite limited: of course you would have to play some of Queen's biggest hits, but how much of your set would be in for that? 50%? more? less? Quite a few of my songs are what you'd call hits though I have dropped a big hits as well. Mind you the last quater is pretty much exactly the same as the magic tour bar Shear heart attack replacing FWBF. - audience participation always has been an important thing to Queen. how much attention you would pay to that? Yes I'd definatly have some audience participation, In the middle of NIH (I loved that!) and I'd also probably have the live aid AP as well somewhere. Setlist: 1:One vision 2:I want it all 3:Tie you mother down meledy: 4:Killer Queen 5:Seven seas of Rhye 6:Keep yourslef alive 7:Liar (Full version with piano solo at the end) 8:Mustapha 9:Death on Two Legs 10:Don't stop me now 11:Orge Battle 12:Innuendo (First 2 verses) 13:The Hitman 14:The Miricle 15:Under Pressure 16:Now I'm here+Vocal improvisation in middle 17:Love of my life 18:The Hero Meledy 19:Princes of the Universe 20:Tear it up 21: Stone cold Crazy 22:Gimme the Prize (Never got played but I'd bet it would sound awsome!) Leads onto: 23:Brighton Rock 24:Another one bites the dust 25:Lap of the Gods revisted 26:Bohemian Rhapsody 27:Hammer to fall 28:Crazy little thing called love 29:Radio Ga ga 30:Sheer heart attack 31: Rock and roll meledy 32:We will rock you 33:We are the champions |
| eenaweena 28.07.2006 07:29 |
another one diets the bust wrote: - what would be an approximate running time? 17:30 - how many songs would you put in? 16 - would there be any restrictions? (for example: "only 1 song from every Queen album") no synthesizers - would you do some acoustics somewhere in the set? if yes, where would you place it? nope. - how would you choose the songs to play? (remember: it would not be just for yourself!) if it's emo-ish, funy-ish, or energetic, then it's part of the album. - would you just play what queen did? or would you at least try something around? yeah. i'd play the same way. - as time might be quite limited: of course you would have to play some of Queen's biggest hits, but how much of your set would be in for that? 50%? more? less? - audience participation always has been an important thing to Queen. how much attention you would pay to that? A LOT. the audience should be the master, but not totally. you still have to own the stage. :) |
| slightly mad 22 28.07.2006 09:04 |
breakthru (taped intro) don't stop me now fat bottomed girls headlong i want it all stone cold crazy kind of magic under pressure bites the dust heaven for everyone love of my life '39 these are the days a winters tale i want to break free flash(leading into) the hero hammer to fall one vision(minus the intro) nevermore leading into play the game save me crazy little thing called love piano medley (not full songs!!) the miracle;killer queen;jealousy; march of the black queen; death on 2 legs; the miracle bohemian rhapsody gimme the prize radio ga ga the show must go on we will rock you Lap of the god's revisited we are the champions |
| slightly mad 22 29.07.2006 06:02 |
Well my band and i tried to do my above set list last night and struggled for various reasons i now need to make a few adjsutments ps Nevermore leading into play the game is great!!! breakthru (taped intro) don't stop me now fat bottomed girls headlong i want it all kind of magic under pressure bites the dust heaven for everyone love of my life these are the days a winters tale i want to break free flash(leading into) the hero hammer to fall one vision(minus the intro) nevermore leading into play the game save me piano medley (not full songs!!) the miracle;killer queen;jealousy;death on 2 legs; march of the black queen; Miracle crazy little thing called love bohemian rhapsody gimme the prize radio ga ga the show must go on we will rock you Lap of the god's revisited we are the champions |
| NJQueenFan 29.07.2006 07:31 |
1 A Day At The Races (intro) 2 We Will Rock You (fast) 3 Let Me Entertain You 4 Fat Bottomed Girls 5 It's Late 6 Under Pressure 7 White Queen (as it began...) *medley* 8 Lazing On A Sunday Afternoon 9 Good Old-Fashioned Lover Boy 10 Killer Queen 11 The March Of The Black Queen 12 The Millionaire Waltz 13 Bring Back That Leroy Brown *medley* 14 Innuendo 15 The Prophet's Song (vocal improvisation) 16 Innuendo (reprise) 17 Father To Son 18 Hammer To Fall 19 '39 20 Love Of My Life 21 These Are The Days Of Our Lives 22 Don't Stop Me Now 23 Somebody To Love 24 Brighton Rock solo 25 Now I'm Here 26 Keep Yourself Alive 27 Seven Seas Of Rhye 28 Stone Cold Crazy 29 Liar 30 In The Lap Of The Gods...revisited =========first encore============= 31 Big Spender 32 Jailhouse Rock 33 Modern Times' Rock and Roll 34 Jailhouse Rock (reprise) 35 Crazy Little Thing Called Love ========second encore============= 36 Bohemian Rhapsody 37 Tie Your Mother Down 38 We Will Rock You 39 We Are The Champions 40 God Save The Queen most of their best material with some hits mixed in to please the more casual fans...decided to leave off a few I kinda would want to be there, like Radio Ga Ga, which wasn't included cause I don't think it's a good enough song to fit in with the strong finish of the concert. And no, Deacy gets no love here...except Under Pressure. |
| Silversaw 29.07.2006 10:41 |
This is very interesting, but I have no idea what a set list would like like. I am in a band (all we are playing by Queen is "Tie Your Mother Down") and so it is very close to what I wanted to do for years. Obviously the hits have to be played, Queen understood that and so do I. I think fans would riot if Bo Rhap or Rock You were cut from a set. I would focus on more of the album tracks that were never played or very seldomly played, especially those tracks found after 1986 that were NEVER performed even once with our dear Freddie. Adding a B-side and maybe even an unreleased demo to the set would really pick out the die-hards!!!! |
| another one diets the bust 29.07.2006 17:38 |
NJQueenFan wrote: most of their best material with some hits mixed in to please the more casual fans...decided to leave off a few I kinda would want to be there, like Radio Ga Ga, which wasn't included cause I don't think it's a good enough song to fit in with the strong finish of the concert. And no, Deacy gets no love here...except Under Pressure.erm, well, 40 songs seems to be quite much ... do you really think you could stand a three hours performance? ;) |
| NJQueenFan 30.07.2006 20:46 |
another one diets the bust wrote:Alot of those are pieced into medleys...and there's a lengthy guitar solo in there to give every1 else a break.NJQueenFan wrote: most of their best material with some hits mixed in to please the more casual fans...decided to leave off a few I kinda would want to be there, like Radio Ga Ga, which wasn't included cause I don't think it's a good enough song to fit in with the strong finish of the concert. And no, Deacy gets no love here...except Under Pressure.erm, well, 40 songs seems to be quite much ... do you really think you could stand a three hours performance? ;) |