QueenZone discussion #726442

Zebonka12 wrote: I find it a ludicrous discussion. Ok, point blank - this isn't Queen. Freddie's dead, John's retired, whatever. But I believe you people have an almighty gall to say that two of the people that *made* Queen what it was (and don't tell me it was all Freddie, he was merely their frontman - it was a 4 piece) don't have the right to play the music? Perhaps their choice of name is questionable, but it's not about the name is it? Who cares??? It's about the music, and you'll always have the old stuff to listen to. Enjoy it, or shut the hell up.

Zebonka12 wrote: "But I think you're going too far off track when you refer to Freddie as "merely their frontman", LOL. Technically, Freddie WAS merely 25% of Queen. Artistically, hmmm, what do we have? 1. Freddie came up with the name 'Queen' 2. Freddie designed the band's logo 3. Freddie wrote all the songs that set Queen apart from every other band 4. Freddie was almost exclusively responsible for the band's reputation as a superb live act. 5. Freddie was solely responsible for the band's reputable appearance at Live Aid 6. Freddie also happened to be the reason why Queen even formed at all Hmmm, would you still say Freddie was just "merely their frontman"? I mean, you minus those attributes from Queen's history... and what do you have left? A lot less than 75%... " Well no. See, the behind the scenes operation of it all... it really was a 4 way thing. We only got one side of the picture, which was this amazing double-sided personality that Freddie Mercury seemed to put across. But they maintained that the actual running of the band (not the setting up stuff you mention in points 1 and 2) was largely an equal and democratic (if heavily argued, hehe) thing. Let's take a look at point 3 : sorry, I don't agree with that. Save Me. Who Wants To Live Forever. Point number 4 largely consists of their public image, which again was dominated by Freddie's on stage persona. My point was that behind the scenes, it was 25% all around; at best, 30 for Freddie :D And him 'merely' being a frontman doesn't diminish his big time role in the group, it just means that it was his job to be the focus, to appear to be the leader. Coming back to this: "Hmmm, would you still say Freddie was just "merely their frontman"?" Yes, yes I would! He was a frontman who wrote songs, delivered bigtime performances that kicked arse, but let's not get ahead of ourselves - I wasn't talking about the image that the band put across, I was talking about the day-to-day running of things, the behind the scenes stuff that we didn't really see often. I'd say you just misunderstood me. :D

<font color=FF0099>Linda Of The Valley wrote:

it was electric7 wrote: you people complain too much

I know. It's annoying.

The Flash Danny Project wrote:

Zebonka12 wrote: I find it a ludicrous discussion. Ok, point blank - this isn't Queen. Freddie's dead, John's retired, whatever. But I believe you people have an almighty gall to say that two of the people that *made* Queen what it was (and don't tell me it was all Freddie, he was merely their frontman - it was a 4 piece) don't have the right to play the music? Perhaps their choice of name is questionable, but it's not about the name is it? Who cares??? It's about the music, and you'll always have the old stuff to listen to. Enjoy it, or shut the hell up.

Here here. But I think you're going too far off track when you refer to Freddie as "merely their frontman", LOL. Technically, Freddie WAS merely 25% of Queen. Artistically, hmmm, what do we have? 1. Freddie came up with the name 'Queen' 2. Freddie designed the band's logo 3. Freddie wrote all the songs that set Queen apart from every other band 4. Freddie was almost exclusively responsible for the band's reputation as a superb live act. 5. Freddie was solely responsible for the band's reputable appearance at Live Aid 6. Freddie also happened to be the reason why Queen even formed at all Hmmm, would you still say Freddie was just "merely their frontman"? I mean, you minus those attributes from Queen's history... and what do you have left? A lot less than 75%...

<font color=FF0099>Linda Of The Valley wrote:

it was electric7 wrote: you people complain too much

I know. It's annoying.

renzo wrote: Queen have lost all my respect,they are like a kareokee band and its like they are flogging a dead horse now.When John left they should of called it a day out of respect to him and freddie even the die hard fans must be biting a lip now with Pr on vocals and session musicans its a bit of a joke.Had Brian or roger left at the time instead of John do you think queen would of carried on,i dont think so.John was a great bass player and just got on with the job of playing music,He knew when it was over the day Freddie died.Why now are they ruining the great legacy that was queen,they should of started other bands instead of this sham,think about if other great bands like U2,The beatles continued without there 2 main men it would never be the same or half as good.Collaborations with Robbie williams,Five and PR has made this a disgrace and its like they are trying to bleed the queen name for all they money they can get.

<b><font color="red">Peter Cetera</b> wrote:

Zebonka12 wrote: "But I think you're going too far off track when you refer to Freddie as "merely their frontman", LOL. Technically, Freddie WAS merely 25% of Queen. Artistically, hmmm, what do we have? 1. Freddie came up with the name 'Queen' 2. Freddie designed the band's logo 3. Freddie wrote all the songs that set Queen apart from every other band 4. Freddie was almost exclusively responsible for the band's reputation as a superb live act. 5. Freddie was solely responsible for the band's reputable appearance at Live Aid 6. Freddie also happened to be the reason why Queen even formed at all Hmmm, would you still say Freddie was just "merely their frontman"? I mean, you minus those attributes from Queen's history... and what do you have left? A lot less than 75%... " Well no. See, the behind the scenes operation of it all... it really was a 4 way thing. We only got one side of the picture, which was this amazing double-sided personality that Freddie Mercury seemed to put across. But they maintained that the actual running of the band (not the setting up stuff you mention in points 1 and 2) was largely an equal and democratic (if heavily argued, hehe) thing. Let's take a look at point 3 : sorry, I don't agree with that. Save Me. Who Wants To Live Forever. Point number 4 largely consists of their public image, which again was dominated by Freddie's on stage persona. My point was that behind the scenes, it was 25% all around; at best, 30 for Freddie :D And him 'merely' being a frontman doesn't diminish his big time role in the group, it just means that it was his job to be the focus, to appear to be the leader. Coming back to this: "Hmmm, would you still say Freddie was just "merely their frontman"?" Yes, yes I would! He was a frontman who wrote songs, delivered bigtime performances that kicked arse, but let's not get ahead of ourselves - I wasn't talking about the image that the band put across, I was talking about the day-to-day running of things, the behind the scenes stuff that we didn't really see often. I'd say you just misunderstood me. :D

Haha - You really say that Brian's songs were more important for Queen than Freddie's? So try again: Who wrote nearly all the songs that put Queen on the map - Freddie: BoRap - most legendary Queen song ever, voted song of the millenium and a two time number one single in the UK, We are the Champions - probably best known Queen song (4 in the US, 2 in the UK), Killer Queen (2 in the UK and their breakthru hit in the UK), Crazy Little Thing Called Love (1 in US, 2 in the UK), Don't Stop Me Now (cult favorite nowadays), Somebody To Love (2 in the UK, 13 in the US), It's A Hard Life, Seven Seas of Rhye (first UK top ten hit), etc. etc.. And how many top ten singles (in the UK where they were most famous) did Brian have from 1973-1986: 2!!!!! (We Will rock you and Save Me), Who Wants To Live Forever was the least successful single of AKOM and only was No. 24 in the UK - and you say Brian wrote many of their legendary songs. And surprise, surprise their biggest commercial single was written by the other guy who respected Freddie so much, that he called it a day when Freddie died - John Deacon (Another One Bites The Dust - No. 1 in the US in 1980, 4 million copies sold)

The Flash Danny Project wrote: 1. Freddie came up with the name 'Queen' 2. Freddie designed the band's logo 3. Freddie wrote all the songs that set Queen apart from every other band 4. Freddie was almost exclusively responsible for the band's reputation as a superb live act. 5. Freddie was solely responsible for the band's reputable appearance at Live Aid 6. Freddie also happened to be the reason why Queen even formed at all