| LadyMoonshineDown 29.01.2006 17:10 |
Some people say that "Bohemian Rhapsody" is the pinacle song of ANATO. But is that mainly because most people who say that don't know the other work of the album? Or something else? I, for one, think that BoRhap is NOT the best song on the album; the one song that wraps up the rest and sums it down to pure genius. But I was curious to your views, for both my question about people who say that, and for what you think the pinacle song on the album is. Cheers |
| OgreBattleField1980 29.01.2006 18:30 |
LadyMoonshineDown wrote: Some people say that "Bohemian Rhapsody" is the pinacle song of ANATO. But is that mainly because most people who say that don't know the other work of the album? Or something else? I, for one, think that BoRhap is NOT the best song on the album; the one song that wraps up the rest and sums it down to pure genius. But I was curious to your views, for both my question about people who say that, and for what you think the pinacle song on the album is. CheersIn my honest opinion. Bohemian Rhapsody gets the critical acclaim because it deserves the praise. Take that song out and what do you really have? Heres and even better question to ask. What would Queen have been without this song? Forget about what a night at the opera would have been. As for a pinacle song on the album (Besides Bohemian Rhapsody) I think its a tie and I would give that to Im In Love With My Car and Death on Two Legs. |
| OgreBattleField1980 29.01.2006 18:36 |
Might I also add that by subtracting all the die hard Queen fans that existed at that time. The comercial Success that Bohemian Rhapsody had alone brought in the general public and thats what made A Night at the opera what it was. |
| LadyMoonshineDown 29.01.2006 19:05 |
OgreBattleField1980 wrote: Might I also add that by subtracting all the die hard Queen fans that existed at that time. The comercial Success that Bohemian Rhapsody had alone brought in the general public and thats what made A Night at the opera what it was.There's no doubt that BoRhap is amazing. It's sheer genius. But to me, the pinacle song; the heart stopper (for me, anyway), is The Prophets Song. The orchestration for that is just as intense as BoRhap, if not more. But hey, just my opinion. To me, it's like Led Zeppelin IV or Bob Dylan's Highway 61 Revisited; title tracks being so amazing; so acclaimed, and so overyplayed, but not nessecarily the best work of art on the album in comparision. Led Zeppelin IV: Stairway to Heaven. But the real stopper is When the Levee Breaks. Highway 61 Revisited: Like a Rolling Stone. But it's all about Ballad of a Thin Man, or Desolation Row, or, shit...any song, really. Heh. Cheers |
| OgreBattleField1980 29.01.2006 20:02 |
Hey I can agree with you on The Prophet song as well. You can compare that to a number of bands songs acctually. But if anything The Prophet song was thier Stairway to Heaven, but like Led Zeppelin every thing after that turned to gold. |
| jcrawford79 29.01.2006 20:09 |
Don't get me wrong, Bohemian Rhapsody is an incredible song (as if that needs to be said). As is The Prophet's Song. But the standout track on the album for me is You're My Best Friend. Very simple, very catchy, and very effective. That's why John is my favorite member of the group. He didn't have the technical resources Freddie and Brian had (in terms of musical theory), so he made up for by writing incredibly good pop songs, which, in my opinion, stand well among Queen's finest moments. |
| Sherwood Forest 29.01.2006 20:21 |
the bottom line is that whoever says Bahemian Rhapsody is the best song on ANATO or just best Queen song ever made, are daffed and really have not heard all of them. That statement being my anthem? if you please. but on ANATO, honestly, Bo Rhap is a great song (that is overplayed in the US) but not the best, for the ANATO album i would say that Prophet's Song was damnn good, i like it more than Bo Rhap sometimes. |
| LadyMoonshineDown 29.01.2006 20:24 |
jcrawford79 wrote: Don't get me wrong, Bohemian Rhapsody is an incredible song (as if that needs to be said). As is The Prophet's Song. But the standout track on the album for me is You're My Best Friend. Very simple, very catchy, and very effective. That's why John is my favorite member of the group. He didn't have the technical resources Freddie and Brian had (in terms of musical theory), so he made up for by writing incredibly good pop songs, which, in my opinion, stand well among Queen's finest moments.I see what you mean. I really like that song mainly because of the memories I have attatched to it when I first heard it. You're right; it's a simple song, but the quaint composition it holds is so nice and pleasing. Yeah, I really like John as well; he wrote some great stuff. Cheers |
| OgreBattleField1980 29.01.2006 20:37 |
Jamie , at one point or another I agree with what you say as well. Depending on my mood , almost every song on that album can and has stood out and A Night at the opera is one of the best albums Queen ever made really. How the hell could they ever top that one ? I dont think they could have. |
| LadyMoonshineDown 29.01.2006 20:42 |
In terms of musicality and composition, BoRhap is nothing short of genius. But because of the airplay it recieved, and is still recieving to this day, the song itself is thought less of as a musical wonder and more of "oh hey, that one song from Wayne's World." I'm not saying this goes for all people, but most who merely know the song from the radio and/or have no other interest in Queen, think that way. It's a shame, because it seems that the radio shouldn't have to squander a song, and yet, it does. Cheers |
| jcrawford79 29.01.2006 20:49 |
Good Company is another underrated track from the album. It contains some of the most complicated instrument arrangements Queen ever created. A true work of genius.... |
| Sherwood Forest 29.01.2006 20:53 |
OgreBattleField1980 wrote: Jamie , at one point or another I agree with what you say as well. Depending on my mood , almost every song on that album can and has stood out and A Night at the opera is one of the best albums Queen ever made really. How the hell could they ever top that one ? I dont think they could have.yea thats what im saying, it all depends on my mood is all, and every mood that ive gone through always end up not being Bo Rhap unless im freaking out, bored in the car for like 5 hours. Then ill wish for it(Bo Rhap) to come on the radio above any other. |
| LadyMoonshineDown 29.01.2006 20:54 |
jcrawford79 wrote: Good Company is another underrated track from the album. It contains some of the most complicated instrument arrangements Queen ever created. A true work of genius....Oh gosh. I've always wondered; on the ANATO album, under the song, it says "Guitar Jazz Band: Brian May." That song is so amazing in its composition; is that really all guitars? Doesn't sound as such, does it? Cheers |
| jcrawford79 29.01.2006 20:57 |
LadyMoonshineDown wrote:All guitars.....pretty freakin incredible. Perfectly emulates woodwinds and brass and the whole nine. But, yes, it is all guitar. Brian May is mind-bogglingly genius.jcrawford79 wrote: Good Company is another underrated track from the album. It contains some of the most complicated instrument arrangements Queen ever created. A true work of genius....Oh gosh. I've always wondered; on the ANATO album, under the song, it says "Guitar Jazz Band: Brian May." That song is so amazing in its composition; is that really all guitars? Doesn't sound as such, does it? Cheers |
| LadyMoonshineDown 29.01.2006 21:00 |
jcrawford79 wrote:Wow.LadyMoonshineDown wrote:All guitars.....pretty freakin incredible. Perfectly emulates woodwinds and brass and the whole nine. But, yes, it is all guitar. Brian May is mind-bogglingly genius.jcrawford79 wrote: Good Company is another underrated track from the album. It contains some of the most complicated instrument arrangements Queen ever created. A true work of genius....Oh gosh. I've always wondered; on the ANATO album, under the song, it says "Guitar Jazz Band: Brian May." That song is so amazing in its composition; is that really all guitars? Doesn't sound as such, does it? Cheers I thought so, but I just couldn't believe it based off the crazy sound that song has. It's amazing, but I guess if you think about it, there have been many people who have worked their guitars into sounding quite different. Take Hendrix for example; at his time, a weird guitar like that for the kind of music he played was odd. And to this day, I still sit in awe everytime I put him on my record player. It's crazy. Cheers |
| DreaminQueen 29.01.2006 21:48 |
LadyMoonshineDown wrote:I agree, Good Company is definatly underrated. Many of Bri's earlier compositions were i think. I mean The White Queen (As it Began) was Sheer Brillance!jcrawford79 wrote:Wow. I thought so, but I just couldn't believe it based off the crazy sound that song has. It's amazing, but I guess if you think about it, there have been many people who have worked their guitars into sounding quite different. Take Hendrix for example; at his time, a weird guitar like that for the kind of music he played was odd. And to this day, I still sit in awe everytime I put him on my record player. It's crazy. CheersLadyMoonshineDown wrote:All guitars.....pretty freakin incredible. Perfectly emulates woodwinds and brass and the whole nine. But, yes, it is all guitar. Brian May is mind-bogglingly genius.jcrawford79 wrote: Good Company is another underrated track from the album. It contains some of the most complicated instrument arrangements Queen ever created. A true work of genius....Oh gosh. I've always wondered; on the ANATO album, under the song, it says "Guitar Jazz Band: Brian May." That song is so amazing in its composition; is that really all guitars? Doesn't sound as such, does it? Cheers And for me, Brian May is the greatest guitarist ever. Well its a tie with him and Hendrix, but their experimentation cannot be beat. When youve got such raw talent, theres NOTHING better. And I dont understand how people can say that someone like Eddie Van Halen is such a fantastic guitarist. Yes he was good i suppose, i dont see what was so fantastic about him. But he was not merely as good as Our Mr. May or Mr. Hendrix. Anywho, back to Bo Rhap. Yes it is a FANTASTIC song, no disputes here as i can see. Thats like one of those natural facts that everyone knows. But is it the pinacle of ANATO, not really. It was the final push that finally made Queen as big as they became, but if people bothered to pay attention they could have seen it coming with songs like MOTBQ and Great King Rat. But the whole album of ANATO could stand up on its own, but i dont think Queen would have been as popular to the whole of the world without the Explosion that was Bo Rhap. But yes, it is definatly one of Queens Best songs SHEER GENIOUS!!! But thats not a short list because IMO there isnt a track that i DONT like. And theres so many songs that are great and that were totally underrated, such as the Prophets Song and Good Company. And I agree with Jamie, I love Prophets song sometimes more than Bo Rhap, but that depends on the Day and my mood, as with any Queen song. I wont like it less, but on the given day, i would Prefer one over the other. Yea, thats the better wording, it depends on the day and mood, i may prefer a song over another. |
| OgreBattleField1980 30.01.2006 08:22 |
LadyMoonshineDown wrote: In terms of musicality and composition, BoRhap is nothing short of genius. But because of the airplay it recieved, and is still recieving to this day, the song itself is thought less of as a musical wonder and more of "oh hey, that one song from Wayne's World." I'm not saying this goes for all people, but most who merely know the song from the radio and/or have no other interest in Queen, think that way. It's a shame, because it seems that the radio shouldn't have to squander a song, and yet, it does. CheersI will say one thing on this. If it wasn't for me ever seeing that movie Waynes World and watching Mtv in April 1992 I most likely would have never grew to like Queen as much as I do now. When I saw the video for Bohemian Rhapsody I was awestruck. Thats how I thought a rock band should look and sound. Before I saw that video I was one of these dweebs who listend to Vanilla Ice and Mc Hammer. Thank god for Bohemian Rhapsody because I would have been doomed otherwise. Since then Ive picked up on the rock music world and found I like even more than just Queen. I have quite the same liking for the band Rush, I just bought thier newly released dvd Rush R30 commemorating thier 30 years together. Very good dvd I might add. I could go on and on and on about others. I just love Rock music in general for the feelings it gives me. |
| OgreBattleField1980 30.01.2006 08:23 |
By the way , I was only 11 years old at that time. ^^ |
| Fenderek 30.01.2006 09:14 |
Prophet's Song is a pinacle of ANATO. Together with jazz orchestra in Good Company. It would be a genius album even without BoRhap. However, having said that- without BoRhap it could have gone unnoticed... |
| magicalfreddiemercury 30.01.2006 10:17 |
I may be the only one to feel this way, but I've never been able to get through the The Prophet's Song. Not the pinnacle for me. It's been said here already, and I agree, if BoRap were not there(though, for me BoRap is IT) than I think You're My Best Friend is the ideal song on this album. It's pop, yes, but classic. |
| deleted user 30.01.2006 11:10 |
Bohemian Rhapsody, no doubt one of the greatest songs ever written and plays a huge part on the album. But I would have to say I think The Prophet's Song is a masterpiece (also one of the greatest songs ever written in my opinion) and deserves as much praise as Bo Rhap does. |
| Great King Sam 30.01.2006 11:11 |
The problem for some is, including myself as a "young" fan (well, 19 is pretty young), I found it difficult as I amassed each album to not view it as the Bohemian Rhapsody album, or the Crazy Little Thing/Save Me album, or the We Will Rock You/We Are The Champs album. Unless you can put yourself in a place where it is an album again, without knowing which songs would be the commercially successful, you can never really give a definite answer. Although, a lot of magazines that discuss the album do cite The Prophet's Song and Love Of My Life (and sometimes I'm In Love With My Car) as three equally impressive efforts. |
| Munchsack 30.01.2006 15:11 |
OK, I hate The Prophet's Song. It is the only track on the album I do not like, I love all the rest of them I would say BoRhap is the best song on ANATO and it was clearly the song that grabbed people's attention so that they noticed Queen, but I also believe that SHA is a better album than ANATO overall. BoRhap is still my favourite Queen song. |
| DreaminQueen 30.01.2006 16:33 |
Great King Sam wrote: The problem for some is, including myself as a "young" fan (well, 19 is pretty young), I found it difficult as I amassed each album to not view it as the Bohemian Rhapsody album, or the Crazy Little Thing/Save Me album, or the We Will Rock You/We Are The Champs album. |
| Great King Sam 30.01.2006 18:52 |
DreaminQueen wrote:Great King Sam wrote: The problem for some is, including myself as a "young" fan (well, 19 is pretty young), I found it difficult as I amassed each album to not view it as the Bohemian Rhapsody album, or the Crazy Little Thing/Save Me album, or the We Will Rock You/We Are The Champs album. Unless you can put yourself in a place where it is an album again, without knowing which songs would be the commercially successful, you can never really give a definite answer. QUOTE] Well i am a young fan as well (16). And i disagree with that slightly. I can see where you are coming from, but thats why I want all the albums, for the non-commercial songs, because on some albums, its the noncommercial songs that i will like more. And its the underpraised unnoticed songs which i love to listen to, because each is different and as Queen is my favorite band, i want to know all songs. In fact, the first albums i tried to buy were the ones with maybe just the one commercially successful song.( Which was Sheer Heart Attack because i knew Killer Queen, but not the rest) If i was simply looking for the commercially successful songs, i could just buy the Greatest Hits and Classic Queen collections. But i cannot give a definate answer anyhow as to which is the best queen song because there are so many i love! Both commercial and noncommercial alike.Sorry, I think you have completely mis-understood what I was trying to say. |
| spymyshadow 31.01.2006 05:10 |
what would anato have been without bohemian rhapsody? Borhap is connected with may things That single heralded ANATO and it was a success even before being issued. At that time queen were changing management, and after that success they were more than confident about the band. Finally the borhap royalties allowed queen to have access once for all in the star system's lifestyle. |
| Rik&Roll 31.01.2006 06:54 |
The Prophet´s Song is real good, too bad the multitrackpart is much too long. Nothing Queen did compares to the BoRhap! That many musical styles, emotions like depression, dispair, pure madness, rage and resignation in the end (in that order) and all that in just over 5 minutes! And catchy as well!!! We´re talking about the most briliant piece of music ever written. Long may she reign! |
| LadyMoonshineDown 31.01.2006 19:40 |
Rik&Roll wrote: The Prophet´s Song is real good, too bad the multitrackpart is much too long. Nothing Queen did compares to the BoRhap! That many musical styles, emotions like depression, dispair, pure madness, rage and resignation in the end (in that order) and all that in just over 5 minutes! And catchy as well!!! We´re talking about the most briliant piece of music ever written. Long may she reign!Prophets Song. Depression: Depressed that the end of the world is nearing. Shit, I'd be depressed too, but at least with the end of the world, I wouldn't be putting up with yet another post about how Paul Rodgers is ruining everything. Despair: Self-explanetory; goes along with the whole depressed bit, really. Pure Madness: Don't laugh at the madman people. Jeeze. Rage: Fear for your life...and all that la dee dah. Seems pretty damn rage-filled to me. "Who heed me not" and all that jazz. Yup, same thing. Resignation: Duh. Duh. Duh. Heh. ;) Cheers |
| DreaminQueen 31.01.2006 21:49 |
Great King Sam wrote:DreaminQueen wrote:No I understand. Im just stating my reason why I disagree.Great King Sam wrote: The problem for some is, including myself as a "young" fan (well, 19 is pretty young), I found it difficult as I amassed each album to not view it as the Bohemian Rhapsody album, or the Crazy Little Thing/Save Me album, or the We Will Rock You/We Are The Champs album. Unless you can put yourself in a place where it is an album again, without knowing which songs would be the commercially successful, you can never really give a definite answer. QUOTE] Well i am a young fan as well (16). And i disagree with that slightly. I can see where you are coming from, but thats why I want all the albums, for the non-commercial songs, because on some albums, its the noncommercial songs that i will like more. And its the underpraised unnoticed songs which i love to listen to, because each is different and as Queen is my favorite band, i want to know all songs. In fact, the first albums i tried to buy were the ones with maybe just the one commercially successful song.( Which was Sheer Heart Attack because i knew Killer Queen, but not the rest) If i was simply looking for the commercially successful songs, i could just buy the Greatest Hits and Classic Queen collections. But i cannot give a definate answer anyhow as to which is the best queen song because there are so many i love! Both commercial and noncommercial alike.Sorry, I think you have completely mis-understood what I was trying to say. What I meant was, for those who weren't around for the majority of the releases, and already knew Queen from the singles, when you listen to the albums, it's harder to view them as one whole equal piece, rather than two singles and ten new songs (if you see what I mean). In which instance, it would be easier to view A Night At The Opera as a whole album, rather than what we know it as... the one with Bohemian Rhapsody. |