QueenZone discussion #699353
PAUL RODGERS......GIMP
| bryans permed poodle 15069 13.01.2006 20:26 |
Just wish he would get lost Brian and Roger create your own band and leave Queen songs and the Queen name alone. I WILL NOT BUY ANY MORE QUEEN DVD'S or CD'S UNTIL BRIAN AND ROGER STOP CALLING THEMSELVES QUEEN, QUEEN + or QUEEN + GIMP. Queen died with Freddie in 1991. |
| blerp 13.01.2006 20:28 |
Then I guess you won't be buying for a very, very, very, very long time. |
| bryans permed poodle 15069 13.01.2006 20:34 |
LadyMercury wrote: Then I guess you won't be buying for a very, very, very, very long time.Their loss not mine. |
| Hooligan's Holiday 13.01.2006 20:37 |
So.... (completely IGNORING you, BPP....) did anyone notice how Rolling Stone gave ALL the Queen albums pretty bad reviews? I mean, why? |
| That guy who digs energy domes 13.01.2006 20:42 |
Bryans Permed Pants wrote: Just wish he would get lost Brian and Roger create your own band and leave Queen songs and the Queen name alone. I WILL NOT BUY ANY MORE QUEEN DVD'S or CD'S UNTIL BRIAN AND ROGER STOP CALLING THEMSELVES QUEEN, QUEEN + or QUEEN + GIMP. Queen died with Freddie in 1991.You are ONE fan. You do not support them. But for every one like you, there are THOUSANDS more, willing to back Paul. So your pissy little McDonalds money doesnt matter to them. |
| jcrawford79 13.01.2006 20:45 |
Bryans Permed Pants wrote: I WILL NOT BUY ANY MORE QUEEN DVD'S or CD'S UNTIL BRIAN AND ROGER STOP CALLING THEMSELVES QUEEN, QUEEN + or QUEEN + GIMP.That a boy!!! That's sure to teach 'em an unforgettable lesson! After your vengeful act, they'll never make such a decision again without consulting you first! Certainly something we can all learn from. From the bottom of my heart, I want to thank you, Mr. Permed Pants, for blessing us Queenzoners with your ever-enjoyable presence. How did we ever make it without you? |
| deleted user 13.01.2006 20:47 |
Bryans Permed Pants wrote: Just wish he would get lost Brian and Roger create your own band and leave Queen songs and the Queen name alone. I WILL NOT BUY ANY MORE QUEEN DVD'S or CD'S UNTIL BRIAN AND ROGER STOP CALLING THEMSELVES QUEEN, QUEEN + or QUEEN + GIMP. Queen died with Freddie in 1991.I doubt anyone cares if you buy there CDs or not, little bitch... |
| Lester Burnham 13.01.2006 20:54 |
Gimp. Hm, from what I've seen, he seems to be in fine health these days. Unlike..... nah, nevermind. |
| blerp 13.01.2006 20:54 |
<B><font color=black>*39*<B> wrote: So.... (completely IGNORING you, BPP....) did anyone notice how Rolling Stone gave ALL the Queen albums pretty bad reviews? I mean, why?Yeah, the one I read for Jazz was pretty harsh. Not sure why. |
| QueenFan1982 13.01.2006 20:59 |
Bryans Permed Pants wrote:Yes, people worth over 100 million dollars often care whether or not one person will buy their stuff.LadyMercury wrote: Then I guess you won't be buying for a very, very, very, very long time.Their loss not mine. |
| Future Queen Guitarist 13.01.2006 21:11 |
<B><font color=black>*39*<B> wrote: So.... (completely IGNORING you, BPP....) did anyone notice how Rolling Stone gave ALL the Queen albums pretty bad reviews? I mean, why?posible because they don't appriciate queen and they must be seriously messed up also |
| mickyparise 13.01.2006 22:38 |
So.... (completely IGNORING you, BPP....) did anyone notice how Rolling Stone gave ALL the Queen albums pretty bad reviews? I mean, why? Rolling Stone Mag...always had a problem with Queen, not sure why, but I hate that mag, cuz back in the days, they never gave credit to Freddie and the boys..........I use to subscribe to it, but dropped it years and years ago.....mag is a waste ... |
| All I Hear Is Radio Gaga 13.01.2006 23:11 |
*yawn* Another useless, pointless topic that has no meaning....just like the press |
| That guy who digs energy domes 13.01.2006 23:39 |
Hmm, good job Permed Poodle, way to be objective. |
| Hooligan's Holiday 14.01.2006 11:37 |
Yea, RS just wants to get our attention by bosting terrible reviews... btw, THEY DO HAVE IMAGINATION!!! More than Rolling Stone will EVER have... |
| Sherwood Forest 14.01.2006 12:09 |
i agree BPP |
| mr4thofjuly 14.01.2006 18:21 |
I totally agree,Queen are dead,and have been since 1986.Brian and Roger continue to humilliate themselves with this farcical karaoke Queen,fronted by a tuneless fat washed up old has been.Face facts,even if Brian and Roger were to tour alone,they no longer have anything left to offer musically.They now sadly join the ranks of the other greedy self obsessed stars like Jagger,Elton,McCartney etc,who simply can't cut it on stage anymore,can barely stay in tune,and are simply riding on the back of past glories.The whole spectacle is sad at best,and damn right pathetic at worst.Brian and Roger should hang up the gear,and retire. |
| bryans permed poodle 15069 14.01.2006 18:51 |
JamieSureWould wrote: i agree BPPI agree with BPP as well |
| Sharon G. 14.01.2006 20:09 |
Bryans Permed Pants wrote:Yup.JamieSureWould wrote: i agree BPPI agree with BPP as well |
| 7drylegs+1wet1 15.01.2006 05:29 |
mr4thofjuly wrote: I totally agree,Queen are dead,and have been since 1986.Brian and Roger continue to humilliate themselves with this farcical karaoke Queen,fronted by a tuneless fat washed up old has been.Face facts,even if Brian and Roger were to tour alone,they no longer have anything left to offer musically.They now sadly join the ranks of the other greedy self obsessed stars like Jagger,Elton,McCartney etc,who simply can't cut it on stage anymore,can barely stay in tune,and are simply riding on the back of past glories.The whole spectacle is sad at best,and damn right pathetic at worst.Brian and Roger should hang up the gear,and retire.Ahem. 1)Freddie died in 1991. 2)Mick Jagger still has his band, so shut up. 3)Elton John has always been on his own musically. Or he has for a long time, anyway. 4)How the hell are they not in tune. 5)Can you even play an instrument? 6)Yeah, Paul Rodgers? Fat? Nahhh soz kid. 7)Have you been to one of the Q+PR concerts? Would it be possible for you too come out from up BPP's arse, i know it must be terribly thrilling, but there is a real world out here. |
| mr4thofjuly 15.01.2006 07:23 |
1.Queen as a live act died in 1986,and were finished as a creative unit long before this date. 2.Mick Jagger still struts the stage making a total fool of himself.His vocal ability was minimal 30 years ago,now he can barely sing a note. 3.Elton John,a complete tosser without an ounce of musical talent.Spends most of his time singing in an awful american style drawl.Spends more time promoting his perverted lifestyle than he does making decent records.Hasn't had a quality release since Goodbye Yellow Brick Road. 4.Staying in tune is hard for the above,as they never had a great ability as singers in the true sense. 5.I do play guitar to a far higher standard than any of the above,other than Brian. 6.Paul Rogers is fat. 7.Why would i waste hard earned money on a bunch of ego driven old men,playing third rate versions of Queen songs.I've heard better Queen cover bands than this joke touring as Queen and Paul Rogers. 8.Hope this answers your questions. |
| 7drylegs+1wet1 15.01.2006 07:38 |
1)Did no-one tell you about A Kind Of Magic, and Innuendo, and The Miracle, and all the others? 2)Wonder why he's so rich then? 3)I didn't say he was good. 4)They are singers, or did you not notice. 5)Again. Rich? Them? Why? 6)He is not. Period. I know because i just studied the ROTC dvd closely, staring at his belly. 7)How do you know they're third rate if you haven't seen them live? 8)They weren't questions as such. Many were rhetorical. |
| john bodega 15.01.2006 09:17 |
BPP's a fuckwit. |
| englishyob 15.01.2006 09:42 |
For Christ sake just let it go and I mean everyone no-one can change what has happened cos if there could someone would bring Freddie back. you ALL sound like a bunch of children in the play ground arguing who’s got the hardest dad its sad to think I share my love of Queen with some of the biggest arse holes in the world. Who care some people like the QPR tour some don’t, get over yourselves if any of you know Freddie (which you don’t and neither do I) but he was a showman he wanted people to enjoy Queen’s music long after he was took from us and that’s what Brian and Roger are doing playing Queen’s music (The band there laid the foundations of remember Smile) but there needed someone to help out as I don’t think there could of done it themselves so Paul Rogers was a very brave man to take on the role and help keep the music of Queen and the spirit of Freddie alive for everyone and a new generation of fan’s around the world. If you can’t accept that so be it just stop been babies about it. And if some of you can’t accept people not liking the tour the same so be it. And if you don’t like what I’ve said I don’t care I enjoyed the show I seen wasn’t Queen but it was the closet thing I’m going to get to see Queen. |
| mr4thofjuly 15.01.2006 09:59 |
It's true that Queen continued to release product during the eighties,but the bulk of this was substandard.The eighties Queen was a pale shadow of the seventies Queen,and the last great album was News Of The World.Even if Freddie was still alive and kicking,i very much doubt if Queen as an act would have anything to offer musically.Sure they could continue to rake in the cash playing their hits,but could they have made a great album to equal the best,highly unlikely.I've never been able to understand how people can follow an act simply because of past glories,all the while hoping that they may one day release something of quality.The Stones haven't released anything of note since Goat Head Soup(1973),and yet people still spend huge chunks of cash watching this embarrassing group of pensioners slaughtering their back catalogue on stage each night.Brian and Roger can still play,nobody is saying otherwise,but why bother.Nobody will ever match Freddie as a singer,that appalling Freddie tribute concert is proof of that.The reason these egomaniacs are rich is simply down to the gullibility of people wasting their hard earned money trying to relive an act that's simply dead.Queen are finished,the only thing we have to look forward to are the boxsets(if they ever arrive)If i need to see Queen live,i watch a dvd,at least i'm getting the real thing,and not some tied old imitation. |
| john bodega 15.01.2006 12:28 |
"It's true that Queen continued to release product during the eighties,but the bulk of this was substandard.The eighties Queen was a pale shadow of the seventies Queen,and the last great album was News Of The World." You're talking from here. (points) Didn't you even open Innuendo you broccoli-brained fart-mouth? Or is that bottom-burp... not sure, but you fit the bill like my foot up your arse. People like you wouldn't be happy if Freddie was still alive, what on earth would you complain about? For you it's all about 'oh, their best stuff was 20 years ago no doubt about it' or whatever. Christ. |
| mr4thofjuly 15.01.2006 12:57 |
Had Innuendo been released by any other band other than Queen,you would have gone nowhere near it.That album is one of Queen's weakest albums,as is everything released after 1980.For heaven's sake,they had to scrape the barrel to produce the Made In Heaven album,and pad it out with some studio chatter,but i bet you wasted your money on it,simply because it said Queen on the sleeve.I know it's hard sometimes to admit to yourself,but Queen were well on the slide for at least six years before they ended as a live act in 1986.I thought Headlong was about the only track which stood out in nearly a decade,the rest is average rock,and substandard childish pop.To think that the remaining members,and let's no forget that John won't touch this current farce with a bargepole,can produce a good record in the 21st century,is laughable.If you are content to listen to 25% of Queen,and some guy who once sang Alright now,slaughter the memory of a once great band,then you must have an extremely tiny mind. |
| magicalfreddiemercury 15.01.2006 13:45 |
I think the only tiny minds are the minds stuck in the sameness of the past. People willing to accept change and applaud effort certainly are not of tiny minds. |
| Knute 15.01.2006 14:28 |
Mr.jackass There's a space after commas Like this, see. |
| mr4thofjuly 15.01.2006 15:14 |
Can't wait for some new Queen material,i'm sure it will be great.After the briliant success of Return Of The Champions,i'm sure Paul can come up with another Bohemian Rhapsody!Second thoughts,maybe stick to Alright Now(HAHA) |
| 7drylegs+1wet1 15.01.2006 17:59 |
^^^ i take it you didn't read the bits before and, possible, after. Or are you joking? There are so many bad, tasteless jokers on here, it's hard to tell. |
| Knute 15.01.2006 19:41 |
It's interesting. These super negative viewpoints of Q+PR actually end up making me like them even more. It reinforces my fondness for them. It's reassuring. Like a way of telling myself thank god I'm not that close-minded. |
| mr4thofjuly 15.01.2006 21:21 |
This has nothing to do with being closed minded.Infact i think you need to be open minded to see the reality of this situation.I would like nothing more than to have seen Queen continue on from their peak years,but only if they can at least equal the best of the best.What's the point of carrying on if you simply have nothing left in the tank.All artists have a limited lifespan,look at McCartney.The question is whether or not in your heart you really believe you have anything left to offer the world of music.In the case of Queen,the answer is so easy it shouldn't even need to be debated at all.You have 25% of the band parading themselves as Queen.It's not Queen,but sadly there are people so desperate to cling onto whatever Brian and Roger do,that it's clouded their judgement to the point of losing all sense of reason. |
| Knute 15.01.2006 23:27 |
mr4thofjuly wrote: This has nothing to do with being closed minded.Infact i think you need to be open minded to see the reality of this situation.I would like nothing more than to have seen Queen continue on from their peak years,but only if they can at least equal the best of the best.What's the point of carrying on if you simply have nothing left in the tank.All artists have a limited lifespan,look at McCartney.The question is whether or not in your heart you really believe you have anything left to offer the world of music.In the case of Queen,the answer is so easy it shouldn't even need to be debated at all.You have 25% of the band parading themselves as Queen.It's not Queen,but sadly there are people so desperate to cling onto whatever Brian and Roger do,that it's clouded their judgement to the point of losing all sense of reason.Unlike you I dont have any problem enjoying the music without condemning them. I don't compare them to Queen's heyday. In fact I dont even look at them like they are Queen, despite the name and the songs. I dont get hung up on it and bash them on a public message board for kicks, that's just not me. I live for the moment and I'm grateful for the awesome show I got to see in Hollywood and I'm about to see in San Jose. I don't need some external justification of it's existance to enjoy it. I just do. I don bother thinking..hmm is Brian really as good now as he was in 1977? You think you are more real when the truth is that you're not more real, you're just more cynical than me. Look at all the smiling faces in the crowd on the ROTC DVD. That in my book, is the definition of offering something to the music world. Music is all about making one feel good. And Q+PR does the trick for me. Q+PR is about re-interpreting Queen's(and BadCo/Free)music, not rehashing it like a tribute act would. It was NEVER intended to capture Queen in it's heyday and glory. That's the key point. That's why it's so vital and fresh to me. It's a shame really that you miss out on it because you can't get past your own cynical viewpoint. |
| john bodega 16.01.2006 01:44 |
"Had Innuendo been released by any other band other than Queen,you would have gone nowhere near it." Actually - no. You're completely wrong again. I happen to like Innuendo because I think it's good. Funny that. "That album is one of Queen's weakest albums,as is everything released after 1980." Now this is a matter of opinion I guess, but I really have to refute the claim you made in the first sentence - I didn't like Innuendo because QUEEN was written on it you fuckwit. I liked it because I think it's good. Jesus. "For heaven's sake,they had to scrape the barrel to produce the Made In Heaven album,and pad it out with some studio chatter,but i bet you wasted your money on it,simply because it said Queen on the sleeve." Wrong again. From the top of my head, A Winter's Tale and Mother Love are two of the best songs in their 180-something song catalogue. You're too busy wanking over your own reflection to get that, of course. "I know it's hard sometimes to admit to yourself,but Queen were well on the slide for at least six years before they ended as a live act in 1986." Hot Space, and The Miracle, I find to be weaker albums, but there was good songs strewn throughout the period. Whether or not they were in decline, they're still better than most of the shit of the period. "I thought Headlong was about the only track which stood out in nearly a decade,the rest is average rock,and substandard childish pop." You're telling me, over an 11 year period, that HEADLONG was the standout track, and that it's not average rock? For fuck's sake, it's one of the most simple songs of said period! "To think that the remaining members,and let's no forget that John won't touch this current farce with a bargepole,can produce a good record in the 21st century,is laughable." It wouldn't be the same without Freddie Mercury, no. But yeah, they could make something good. "If you are content to listen to 25% of Queen" Ok I still don't get this joke of yours, it's really crap - there was 4 people in the band you fucking fool; the public image was very much Freddie, but behind the scenes they were a four-person entity. If you liked them so much you'd know this. Stupid Robbie Williams fans.... "and some guy who once sang Alright now,slaughter the memory of a once great band,then you must have an extremely tiny mind." If my brain, and your brain, sat next to each other on a bus, someone would get off the bus, go home, and tell their family: "Dude, I just saw Barry White and Pee Wee Herman sit next to each other on the bus!". I'd be Barry White. You fucking moron. |
| biggest_fan_K 16.01.2006 03:13 |
speaking of barry white....he copied Queen! link |
| Fenderek 16.01.2006 06:07 |
Know what? i'll tell you exactly why this is happening. Fred is dead. So a twat like BPP cannot be disappointed by anything he does. Cause he doesn't do anything. He can remember him the way he wants. Not the way he really was- he has no fucking idea what he was really like- he kept this side to himself and those close to him. Now- Bri and Rog are still alive. So their action CAN doisappoint. Just like the whole four disapppointed in 1982 majority (?) of fans. So they cannot be perfect- simply because they are alive. They are making decissions that some fans (?) would consider bad. You know what a guy like BPP is missing? They were always amking decissions like that and simply didn't give a fuck. Hot Space, NOTW, South Africa, synthesisers... The list is LOOOONG. They have shit loads of money in their bank accounts. Yet they still do exactly the same thing as they were doing throughout their career. Make decisssions and taking risks. It took some balls to go on tour with Rodgers. The difference is: Freddie was making decissions like that (like recording something like "Delilah" for instance) a while ago. Brian and Roger are making decissions like that NOW. They do not allow us to take them the way we want them- they insist on accepting them the way they are. And if a GIMP like BPP can't do it (and few other twats who agree with him, even though nothing he writes make any sense)- I don't think they're bothered... You're not going to buyt any more Queen stuff? Fine. Why are you still here than? Oh, right- no life... |
| mr4thofjuly 16.01.2006 06:08 |
I know you true believers in everything Roger and Brian will never see the true reality of this cynical cash-in.They must be laughing their heads off at idiots like you,as you beg for the musical scraps from their table.They could release any old crap under the sun(Return Of The Champions),and you would fall over yourself to buy it.I really don't think you are a fan of the band,if you are content with Kareoke Queen Paul Rogers style.As i said in a previous post,we shall see what the boys produce in the way of new material,and look at the sales figures.They haven't a hope in hell of matching the weakest Queen era material(1980-1991),so really what is the point?Maybe it would have been better for them to have toured as "Free- With Roger Taylor And Brian May". |
| john bodega 16.01.2006 07:50 |
"I know you true believers in everything Roger and Brian will never see the true reality of this cynical cash-in." Um... remind me again, where is the inherent validity in what you claim as 'truth'? Let's not even get started on the gulf between truth and fact. Why do we have to be 'true believers in everything Roger and Brian' to simply LIKE something, you slack-arsed little wimp? Why can't we just like something? You shitheads really crack me up. "They must be laughing their heads off at idiots like you,as you beg for the musical scraps from their table." OR... and this is a big 'or', maybe they just like playing music and are having a good time? And there's nothing you can do about it? And they're good at what they do? And everyone else (except you and your snotnosed little friends) is having a good time too? Damn you suck! The hard truth is, doesn't matter if they're crap, doesn't matter at all; the audiences are enjoying themselves. I've said a million times, I absolutely *hate* Robbie Williams and it hurts to see someone as talentless as him play the world stage... but heck, he's got my blessing if he can please that many people. "They could release any old crap under the sun(Return Of The Champions)" Yes but you see (or don't see, plainly - and tone deaf as you are you don't *hear* either) people buy this because they like it. "and you would fall over yourself to buy it.I really don't think you are a fan of the band,if you are content with Kareoke Queen Paul Rogers style." HOW THE FUCK can you (grotty little 12 year old that you must be) be arbiter of what makes someone a Queen fan or not? Doesn't it actually make us BIGGER fans than you, if we can appreciate more of their catalogue? I don't... think that myself, but by your own twisted logic it makes heaps of sense so I guess you've shot yourself in the foot. Moron. "As i said in a previous post,we shall see what the boys produce in the way of new material,and look at the sales figures." Yes, but I'm Going Slightly Mad was great and yet the only place it managed a no. 1 position was Hong Kong. Let's just forget sales figures, they're irrelevant and don't belong in a topic concerning what makes good music. (Spice Girls, anyone?) "They haven't a hope in hell of matching the weakest Queen era material(1980-1991)" Again with that magic number that you keep flouting - more as a gimmick than anything because it's totally meaningless. How can you (with a straight face) denounce a decade of music that includes Save Me? Innuendo? Bijou? I won't mention Mother Love, because it was released outside the jurisdiction of your pathetic little 'era-of-crap' thing, so fuck you. "so really what is the point?Maybe it would have been better for them to have toured as "Free- With Roger Taylor And Brian May"." WHO CARES WHAT NAME THEY PICK. For fuck's sake, just listen to the music. Or don't - but for God's sake, stop assuming that we're not real Queen fans because we listen to more Queen than you do. |
| mr4thofjuly 16.01.2006 09:25 |
Sure the audience is enjoying it,they probably think Paul was always Queen's vocalist.You see,this is their target audience,uneducated casual listeners who have maybe heard We Are The Champions a couple of times,and think hey,i must check out this great new band.Also idiots who missed the real band first time round,and think this is a substitute will go along.I doubt you are a true Queen fan,as you seem to know nothing of the real band.Maybe you should move onto the Spice Girls,something befitting your obviously low intellect.I'm sure the industry could sell you the idea of a new Elvis tour,without Elvis,and i bet you'd snap up those tickets wouldn't you!Once 25% get in that studio and produce a Bohemian Rhapsody for the 21st century,then they'll win me over.What are the odds of that happening??Any idiot can churn out tired rock n roll,or destroy their reputation for some quick cash.Let's see how long this experiment lasts,and let's look back on this legacy in 10 years.I'm sure we'll all have a good laugh,and put it all into perspective.Bring on the new recordings,i can't wait.Now come on,respond again with some more childish abuse. |
| That guy who digs energy domes 16.01.2006 09:31 |
JamieSureWould wrote: i agree BPPWhat!? |
| john bodega 16.01.2006 10:53 |
"Sure the audience is enjoying it,they probably think Paul was always Queen's vocalist." So... Freddie's own mother? Fan club members (read - people SO ENAMOURED with the back catalogue of Queen that they'll waste money on the band they like so much). What a fucktard. "You see,this is their target audience,uneducated casual listeners who have maybe heard We Are The Champions a couple of times,and think hey,i must check out this great new band." Wrong. The people who've heard WATC a few times are the ones that go "isn't Freddie Mercury dead?" and keep walking. Basically - you. "Also idiots who missed the real band first time round,and think this is a substitute will go along." You are intellectually deficient. People who missed the band first time around on account of not being born yet are not idiots, just unlucky. Perhaps some of them are seeing it because it's a 'substitute' as you call it, but you can't possibly say that is true of every single one of the thousands that went last year. "I doubt you are a true Queen fan" Wrong again. Been a Queen fan all my life. If you have a parent with you, get them to explain some of this shit to you - You do not say what makes other people Queen fans or not. "as you seem to know nothing of the real band." You have displayed sweet-fuck-all knowledge of the 'real band', as you call it so sagely. You probably think Bohemian Rhapsody is about AIDS. "Maybe you should move onto the Spice Girls,something befitting your obviously low intellect." Now that's interesting, I'm pretty sure the only reason you're using that word is because I showed it to you in another thread. How cute, now you're waving it around like a new toy! "I'm sure the industry could sell you the idea of a new Elvis tour,without Elvis,and i bet you'd snap up those tickets wouldn't you!" No I wouldn't. "Once 25%" Not funny. "get in that studio and produce a Bohemian Rhapsody for the 21st century,then they'll win me over." Jesus Christ. "What are the odds of that happening??Any idiot can churn out tired rock n roll,or destroy their reputation for some quick cash.Let's see how long this experiment lasts,and let's look back on this legacy in 10 years." I don't need 10 years to think about it, arsehole. I can see it already; thousands of people will be able to look back on a night out where they had a lot of fun with a bunch of other people. And arseholes like you will have reached high school and hopefully moved on. "I'm sure we'll all have a good laugh,and put it all into perspective.Bring on the new recordings,i can't wait." Neither can I, it sure will be interesting. "Now come on,respond again with some more childish abuse." Anything that lands on you, you have brought upon yourself. I have a vague impression that you're just some ten year old with nothing to do and are therefore deliberately trying to get reactions out of people... whatever. I'm indulging you because I'm bored, I don't *need* to argue because I know you're in the wrong. That - whether or not this music is 'crap' as you say it is (but what would you know, you think Save Me and Bijou are crap...) people are enjoying it by the busload. There is a special seat reserved in hell for you my pre-teen little sycophant. It's the one that reads "The Kid With His Head Up His Arse". |
| 7drylegs+1wet1 16.01.2006 11:33 |
Zebonka12 wrote: "The Kid With His Head Up His Arse".and much more besides. |
| Sherwood Forest 16.01.2006 12:59 |
<marquee>Queen Of Wrestling</marquee> wrote:i agree paul rodgers cant sing Queen songs, otherwise hes a fine singer for his own songs. but not fredsJamieSureWould wrote: i agree BPPWhat!? end of story, everyone knows it. i love Brian but hes not fooling anyone. and it hurts me to say that only for Brian and Roger's sake. |
| That guy who digs energy domes 16.01.2006 13:04 |
JamieSureWould wrote:But who would you rather did it? Would you prefer they stayed down?<marquee>Queen Of Wrestling</marquee> wrote:i agree paul rodgers cant sing Queen songs, otherwise hes a fine singer for his own songs. but not freds end of story, everyone knows it. i love Brian but hes not fooling anyone. and it hurts me to say that only for Brian and Roger's sake.JamieSureWould wrote: i agree BPPWhat!? |
| mr4thofjuly 16.01.2006 13:27 |
You keep on about Bijou as a being great,but in reality it's no more than a throw away Hendrix inspired piece of crap.Save Me,i agree is a great song,but isn't this from 1980?As i've said,Queen were very much on the slide many years before Freddie died,and what's currently doing the rounds on stage at present,isn't fit to lick the boots of Queen 1974-77.If you truely believe otherwise,you must be seriously deluded.I'd would still be interested in your views regarding new material.Do you think they'll have the nerve to release anything studio wise?I would really love an album from the guys that could challenge QueenII,or maybe A Night At The Opera.I suppose they could trawl through the outtakes,and maybe get Paul to screech over the top of the backing tracks,but maybe that wouldn't really work,although i'm sure you would love it.I wonder if they can top the sales figures from their last wonderful Champions Of The World release.Didn't it just scrape into the top 20 for all of a week,and then fall like a pile of hot shit straight into the rubbish bin of rock history?I think your anger towards me,and others in this forum proves to me that you know we're right,and history will bare that out.Go and listen to the first 5 albums,then stick on Paul R and Queen,you'll get the biggest laugh of your life.I think Queen 25% have started a brand new trend here,i don't see why we can't have a Beatles reunion without John and George.Then maybe a Jimi Hendrix tour with Mitch Mitchell,then Elvis complete with backing band,but no Elvis!This would be great as Queen have already proven,and there are plenty of tiny minded morons like you to fund it. |
| Knute 16.01.2006 13:32 |
I'ts hysterical how you call others tiny-minded. One of the most blatant cases of the pot calling the kettle black I've ever seen. |
| magicalfreddiemercury 16.01.2006 13:45 |
What I don't get about this conversation is, who cares? So, some of us don't like the performance/name/idea of Queen + Paul Rogers and some of us do. Yeah. Okay. So... now what? Some of us will willingly buy their tickets, albums and DVD's, and some of us won't. I don't like rap music, so I won't buy it. Doesn't mean that because I don't like it, it shouldn't/won't exist. There's a market for it - regardless of my personal opinions about that. Just as there is a market for Queen + Paul Rogers - regardless of some of the opinions here. Like it or not. Buy it or not. Obsess about it or move on. It's all about opinions and choice. Nothing more, nothing less. |
| That guy who digs energy domes 16.01.2006 14:03 |
Love it or leave it |
| quicksilver mercury 16.01.2006 14:26 |
Did Mr. Paul Rodgers hurt his leg? He do not seem to be gimp? (gimp is person with bad leg?) |
| englishyob 16.01.2006 14:31 |
magicalfreddiemercury wrote: What I don't get about this conversation is, who cares? So, some of us don't like the performance/name/idea of Queen + Paul Rogers and some of us do. Yeah. Okay. So... now what? Some of us will willingly buy their tickets, albums and DVD's, and some of us won't. I don't like rap music, so I won't buy it. Doesn't mean that because I don't like it, it shouldn't/won't exist. There's a market for it - regardless of my personal opinions about that. Just as there is a market for Queen + Paul Rogers - regardless of some of the opinions here. Like it or not. Buy it or not. Obsess about it or move on. It's all about opinions and choice. Nothing more, nothing less.That what i keep saying everyone need to start getting over themselves the only GIMPS are the one's who keep going on about it. If you don’t like it don’t listen to it yes we ALL know its not Queen its 50% of Queen doing what their have every right to do its a shame the other 50% is either dead or retired. Its called moving on some people should try it Brian and Roger renewed my faith in Queen and have bought a new breed of fans into the fold |
| magicalfreddiemercury 16.01.2006 17:41 |
Ravenetta wrote: you guys still respond to this guy?Guilty. And red-faced. Edited 1/17 - And yet, I seem to keep coming back... |
| That guy who digs energy domes 16.01.2006 21:42 |
Ravenetta wrote: you guys still respond to this guy?Of course, my father had the honor of meeting Paul during a BC concert and now his son is defending Paul's honor from dumbasses with no life. |
| john bodega 17.01.2006 00:06 |
"You keep on about Bijou as a being great" Because it is. "but in reality it's no more than a throw away Hendrix inspired piece of crap." Hendrix is great. It's not throwaway. It's great. "Save Me,i agree is a great song,but isn't this from 1980?" Yeah, but didn't you say their weak period was 1980-1991? So Save Me falls under that (along with a shitload of other good songs) so I can only reach the conclusion that you're a dunderhead of some kind. "As i've said,Queen were very much on the slide many years before Freddie died" ... no they WEREN'T! For fucks sake, let's trot out another one - Was It All Worth It. That song is freakin' work of genius! Next thing, you'll be telling me Sex Pistols are good musicians. "and what's currently doing the rounds on stage at present,isn't fit to lick the boots of Queen 1974-77." What has boot licking got to do with anything? You're taking laudanum aren't you! "If you truely believe otherwise,you must be seriously deluded." ... or, I just like Queen. If you hate Queen so much, why are you even here? "I'd would still be interested in your views regarding new material." If you could read, you'd already know my views. Above I said 'it'll certainly be interesting' or something. "Do you think they'll have the nerve to release anything studio wise?" They had nerve to ignore fuckwits like you and organise a high-profile tour, so yeah - I think they've plenty of nerve. "I would really love an album from the guys that could challenge QueenII,or maybe A Night At The Opera." To be honest... I don't see Roger writing anything great, but Brian has always made good songs (or at least, average songs with really good bits strewn throughout them). I didn't really like The Call as a whole, but there's some amazing little gems in it. "I suppose they could trawl through the outtakes,and maybe get Paul to screech over the top of the backing tracks,but maybe that wouldn't really work,although i'm sure you would love it." ... no, no I wouldn't. Again, you really haven't the slightest clue do you? "I wonder if they can top the sales figures from their last wonderful Champions Of The World release.Didn't it just scrape into the top 20 for all of a week,and then fall like a pile of hot shit straight into the rubbish bin of rock history?" To think, of 50 million sperm, you were the fastest... I suppose it's a mercy the other ones just gave up. "I think your anger towards me,and others in this forum proves to me that you know we're right" Uh... I'll go out on a limb here and say maybe you're not. Each member of this band got technically better, pushed their own limits further and further right until they stopped in 1991, and yet you're insisting they reached their peak in 1980. Who's "we" anyway? So a cocksucker posts "I agree with everything you say". Big fucking whoop. I'm sure Bush enjoys that kind of blind-follow-the-sheep behaviour, but I freakin' don't. "and history will bare that out." Unfortunately... history won't care at all. Oh that's right, you didn't listen to any of the music from 1980-1991 so you won't get that. But anyway - your argument won't be remembered at all. If any of this Q+PR stuff is remembered, it will be seen as a bit of fun. Nothing too serious. "Go and listen to the first 5 albums,then stick on Paul R and Queen,you'll get the biggest laugh of your life." I already HAD the biggest laugh of my life when I started reading your crap. You have no conception of the benefits of live music and experimentation with different musicians. Lemme guess, the '68 comeback special was a waste of time too? "I think Queen 25% have started a brand new trend here,i don't see why we can't have a Beatles reunion without John and George." ... again with this |
| Fenderek 17.01.2006 04:20 |
Have you guys noticed that all those people- snow flakey, BPP, mr4thofsomething- no grammar, no sense... it's just ususally one long stream of counscious drivel... Noticed? |
| john bodega 17.01.2006 06:20 |
You don't mean me do you?? :O |
| as it began 17.01.2006 13:37 |
.......gimp? |
| That guy who digs energy domes 17.01.2006 14:22 |
Gimp (3) A sex slave or submissive, usually male, as popularlized by the movie Pulp Fiction. 2. man slave especially aroused by bondage A male BDSM rubber/leather slave. Specificaly, refers to slave in full-body suit - eg, rubber leather enclosure suits, and (this is the key thing) a full head mask. The Gimp is a man they keep dressed from head to toe in black leather bondage gear. There are zippers, buckles and studs here and there on the body. On his head is a black leather mask with two eye holes and a zipper (closed) for a mouth. They keep him in a hole in the floor big enough for a large dog. 1. A person who is into hardcore leather bondage. |
| as it began 17.01.2006 14:30 |
<marquee>Queen Of Wrestling</marquee> wrote: Gimp (3) A sex slave or submissive, usually male, as popularlized by the movie Pulp Fiction. 2. man slave especially aroused by bondage A male BDSM rubber/leather slave. Specificaly, refers to slave in full-body suit - eg, rubber leather enclosure suits, and (this is the key thing) a full head mask. The Gimp is a man they keep dressed from head to toe in black leather bondage gear. There are zippers, buckles and studs here and there on the body. On his head is a black leather mask with two eye holes and a zipper (closed) for a mouth. They keep him in a hole in the floor big enough for a large dog. 1. A person who is into hardcore leather bondage.Ahhh thanks for the info. ;) Until now I thought gimp was the stuff you used to make branceletes out of! lmao |
| That guy who digs energy domes 17.01.2006 14:43 |
Doesnt exactly describe Paul Rodgers eh? |
| Lester Burnham 17.01.2006 15:46 |
as it began wrote: Until now I thought gimp was the stuff you used to make branceletes out of! lmaoHeh, that's hemp. |
| bryans permed poodle 15069 17.01.2006 16:35 |
Zebonka12 wrote: "I know you true believers in everything Roger and Brian will never see the true reality of this cynical cash-in." Um... remind me again, where is the inherent validity in what you claim as 'truth'? Let's not even get started on the gulf between truth and fact. Why do we have to be 'true believers in everything Roger and Brian' to simply LIKE something, you slack-arsed little wimp? Why can't we just like something? You shitheads really crack me up. "They must be laughing their heads off at idiots like you,as you beg for the musical scraps from their table." OR... and this is a big 'or', maybe they just like playing music and are having a good time? And there's nothing you can do about it? And they're good at what they do? And everyone else (except you and your snotnosed little friends) is having a good time too? Damn you suck! The hard truth is, doesn't matter if they're crap, doesn't matter at all; the audiences are enjoying themselves. I've said a million times, I absolutely *hate* Robbie Williams and it hurts to see someone as talentless as him play the world stage... but heck, he's got my blessing if he can please that many people. "They could release any old crap under the sun(Return Of The Champions)" Yes but you see (or don't see, plainly - and tone deaf as you are you don't *hear* either) people buy this because they like it. "and you would fall over yourself to buy it.I really don't think you are a fan of the band,if you are content with Kareoke Queen Paul Rogers style." HOW THE FUCK can you (grotty little 12 year old that you must be) be arbiter of what makes someone a Queen fan or not? Doesn't it actually make us BIGGER fans than you, if we can appreciate more of their catalogue? I don't... think that myself, but by your own twisted logic it makes heaps of sense so I guess you've shot yourself in the foot. Moron. "As i said in a previous post,we shall see what the boys produce in the way of new material,and look at the sales figures." Yes, but I'm Going Slightly Mad was great and yet the only place it managed a no. 1 position was Hong Kong. Let's just forget sales figures, they're irrelevant and don't belong in a topic concerning what makes good music. (Spice Girls, anyone?) "They haven't a hope in hell of matching the weakest Queen era material(1980-1991)" Again with that magic number that you keep flouting - more as a gimmick than anything because it's totally meaningless. How can you (with a straight face) denounce a decade of music that includes Save Me? Innuendo? Bijou? I won't mention Mother Love, because it was released outside the jurisdiction of your pathetic little 'era-of-crap' thing, so fuck you. "so really what is the point?Maybe it would have been better for them to have toured as "Free- With Roger Taylor And Brian May"." WHO CARES WHAT NAME THEY PICK. For fuck's sake, just listen to the music. Or don't - but for God's sake, stop assuming that we're not real Queen fans because we listen to more Queen than you do.Your not a Queen fan you are a Brian and Roger fan. Most REAL Queen fans do not accept Queen + PR to be a good thing. If you insist on being a Queen fan, a true Queen fan you should not be condonning this dispicabel excuse for a tour under OUR Queen, the fans Queen. We bought their records we made them rich they should listen to there REAL fans WE DON'T WANT THIS SHIT!! POOR FREDDIE MUST BE WEEPING IN HIS GRAVE. TRAITORS!! |
| magicalfreddiemercury 17.01.2006 16:52 |
Bryans Permed Pants wrote: WE DON'T WANT THIS SHIT!! POOR FREDDIE MUST BE WEEPING IN HIS GRAVE. TRAITORS!!The show must go on go on go on go on go on go on go on... ...oh and... check out my sig line for an idea of how Freddie might feel... |
| mr4thofjuly 17.01.2006 17:09 |
I think i was just proven to be correct in eveything i said to this date.Any criticism of Mr May and Taylor always causes this type of irrational response from lame brained robotic,arse licking types,who think they can do no wrong,simply because they used to make great records.You know in your heart that Queen are finished,and have been for the best part of 26 years,but still you cling on to this hopeless wish of one last great record.As i said,Save Me is a great song,but one or two good songs in nearly a decade doesn't cut it for me,and i still believe that Queen were finished as a creative unit at the end of the seventies.Can Queen and Paul make great records for another five or ten years?I think we all know the answer to that,don't we?.I don't want to disappoint you,but it's never going to happen,nor could it.Freddie was the creative element in this band,and without him you have nothing,sure Brian is an excellent guitarist,but if you don't have any quality material,then you have nothing.Whatever the remaining band members release,and i don't think they'll ever chance that,will be a failure.I know this hurts the diehards,and none more so than the cretin who says he would pay good money to see Mitch Mitchell drum(got a great laugh out of that)But face facts,Queen have gone,the memories shouldn't be clouded by this awful third rate Spinal Tap version touring now.By the way,George Bush is a great president,and a great christian man. |
| as it began 17.01.2006 18:02 |
Lester Poopham wrote:Woooow *smacks head*...I feel even more like an idiot ok I should just stop talking, haha.as it began wrote: Until now I thought gimp was the stuff you used to make branceletes out of! lmaoHeh, that's hemp. |
| bryans permed poodle 15069 17.01.2006 18:03 |
magicalfreddiemercury wrote:The show must go on was written about Freddie's illness not whether Queen would continue after his death. Dip Shit get your facts right.Bryans Permed Pants wrote: WE DON'T WANT THIS SHIT!! POOR FREDDIE MUST BE WEEPING IN HIS GRAVE. TRAITORS!!The show must go on go on go on go on go on go on go on... ...oh and... check out my sig line for an idea of how Freddie might feel... |
| Sherwood Forest 17.01.2006 18:10 |
beee niceeee |
| That guy who digs energy domes 17.01.2006 19:40 |
Unfortunately, he did say, "The show must go on, just without me my dear." So Paul is doing the will of Freddie! |
| mr4thofjuly 17.01.2006 20:45 |
The show must go on,not the shit must go on. |
| That guy who digs energy domes 17.01.2006 20:49 |
mr4thofjuly wrote: The show must go on,not the shit must go on.In case you dont know, the overwhelming majority enjoys Paul link |
| That guy who digs energy domes 17.01.2006 21:47 |
snow flakey wrote: On just this site? Well overwhelming majority also hates Paul.You, BPP, Sharron G. 3 There is well over 2000 votes saying more QPR would be fabulous while 1300 are saying it would be OK. In contrast, 1700 want them to quit. In case you havent graduated 3rd grade, 2000+1300= 3300 (3300-1700)>0 therefore more fans want PR |
| That guy who digs energy domes 17.01.2006 21:55 |
snow flakey wrote: Most people on QZ like Paul, but of course QueenZone speaks for the whole nation..(In your mind)More than one nation, the entire world. |
| Future Queen Guitarist 17.01.2006 21:55 |
Ravenetta wrote: you again!?what do mean by tht |
| That guy who digs energy domes 17.01.2006 22:00 |
In case you havent noticed, there are people from all over the world on QZ, for example JamieSureWould & QOW- USA Marial- Venezuela Serry- Russia s.m.- Croatia bitesthedust, Munchsack & Andy38- UK just a few of examples |
| That guy who digs energy domes 17.01.2006 22:07 |
link |
| Fenderek 18.01.2006 03:32 |
snow flakey wrote: On just this site? Well overwhelming majority also hates Paul.Have any numbers to prove your stupid (another) point? Or is it just something "you know"... *rolls eyes* |
| mr4thofjuly 18.01.2006 05:45 |
If this so called new version of Queen is as popular around the world as you say,then surely they can easily equal the achievements of the genuine Queen.Firstly,they will have to provide all those tens of millions with some brand new material,which i'm sure they can do with ease!Paul will have his work cut out. |
| Fenderek 18.01.2006 05:56 |
mr4thofjuly wrote: If this so called new version of Queen is as popular around the world as you say,then surely they can easily equal the achievements of the genuine Queen.Firstly,they will have to provide all those tens of millions with some brand new material,which i'm sure they can do with ease!Paul will have his work cut out.You're talking popularity now. Yet you just slagged pretty much entire 80s, when Queen were more popualr around the world (I'm not talking US only) than ever... You're not very consistent, are you? PS Justy for the record- I think 80s were pretty much crap. |
| That guy who digs energy domes 18.01.2006 08:39 |
I actually have proof that the public wants QPR unless of course, Paul, Brian and Roger paid us all to vote that way </fontcolor=sarcasm> |
| mr4thofjuly 18.01.2006 13:28 |
Had Queen toured during the eighties performing eighties releases,how popular do you think that would have been?Sure they dropped in the odd new track,but it would have been suicide to have ignored their greatest songs.Don't forget Queen's entire reputation was build upon their strongest material which was created during the seventies.The dreadful nursery rhyme pop of songs such as,I Want To Break Free,and Radio Ga Ga,can't possibly compare to songs such as,Father To Son,White Queen,Bohemian Rhapsody,Killer Queen,Drowse,In The Rap Of The Gods Revisited,My Melancholy Blues,It's Late,We Are The Champions,etc.I could name another 50 songs from this era,and all stand head and shoulders above anything from the eighties period.It was not just Queen who suffered on a creative level during that miserable decade,but just about every high profile act produced very little in the way of quality material.To think that this current Brian,Roger,and Paul effort,can challenge,or even approach Queen at their peak is ludicrous in the extreme. |
| 7drylegs+1wet1 18.01.2006 13:40 |
yes but you're a dick. |
| That guy who digs energy domes 18.01.2006 14:42 |
That is your opinion. Do I need to remind you that there are about 5,000,000,000 people on this planet? Any one of them is subject to a different opinion than you. |
| mr4thofjuly 18.01.2006 14:53 |
I think you'll find my opinion is the overwhelming opinion amongst genuine Queen fans.Anybody who says,Queen 1980 something is better than Queen 1970 something,is either a liar,or mad. |
| That guy who digs energy domes 18.01.2006 14:55 |
And can you show me this poll? And guess what, what if I would say that The Game is my favorite album, followed by Hot Space? Does that make me not a fan? Or am I just a liar? Or am I mad? |
| mr4thofjuly 18.01.2006 14:58 |
I think it says to me very clearly,that you are kidding yourself.It's like comparing a Roll Royce with a clapped out old bicycle.You would be in a minority of one. |
| teleman 18.01.2006 15:01 |
mr4thofjuly wrote: I think you'll find my opinion is the overwhelming opinion amongst genuine Queen fans.Anybody who says,Queen 1980 something is better than Queen 1970 something,is either a liar,or mad.Who are you to decide who is a 'genuine' Queen fan and who is not? And where is your verifiable data to prove your opinion is prevalent among 'genuine' Queen fans? If someone disagrees with you they are a liar or mad? That is poor logic to the extreme. |
| mr4thofjuly 18.01.2006 16:59 |
I think you would be crazy to suggest there are more fans of the 80's Queen,than the 70's.I would say that if any fan is honest,they could never in their right mind favour the cheesy kids pop band that Queen became mid eighties,over the brilliant inspired rock band of the 70's.You don't need a poll regarding this question,as it's so obvious it shouldn't even be debated. |
| That guy who digs energy domes 18.01.2006 19:27 |
mr4thofjuly wrote: I think you would be crazy to suggest there are more fans of the 80's Queen,than the 70's.I would say that if any fan is honest,they could never in their right mind favour the cheesy kids pop band that Queen became mid eighties,over the brilliant inspired rock band of the 70's.You don't need a poll regarding this question,as it's so obvious it shouldn't even be debated.Yes, you do need a poll otherwise what you say has no grounds as the view of the majority. |
| Knute 18.01.2006 20:30 |
Another thing. Notice how these quote unquote true Queen fans are never to be seen in any threads about Queen. They only show up in PR bashing threads. What does that tell you? |
| Fenderek 19.01.2006 04:43 |
Knute wrote: Another thing. Notice how these quote unquote true Queen fans are never to be seen in any threads about Queen. They only show up in PR bashing threads. What does that tell you?SPOT ON!!!!!!! No grammar and NEVER in threads about apparently REAL Queen. Spot fucking on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Brilliant! |
| That guy who digs energy domes 19.01.2006 08:21 |
They need to learn how to use the spacebar |
| Fenderek 19.01.2006 08:28 |
you're stupid moron, mr 4thofjuly- there's a very interesting discussion going on in another part of this FORUM about 80s hurting Queen legacy... didn't see you there... You hate Q+PR yet as pointed- that's the only subject you are talking about... |
| That guy who digs energy domes 19.01.2006 08:29 |
What is wrong with their 80's music? |
| Togg 19.01.2006 08:38 |
I do find this all very funny, these guys seem to love to forget the FACTS and argue without any base in reality. Queen had more fans in the 80's than ever before FACT Queen sold more records in the 80's than ever before FACT Return of the champions has done as well and any 'live' queen release over the time it's been released FACT Queen are a band of creative individuals that experiement and some of you will like one bit and others another, but to still be going on about Queen not replacing Freddie is moronic. For Gods sake forget these F***wits that just try to get a rise out of real fans, they are just doing it for fun |
| That guy who digs energy domes 19.01.2006 08:40 |
Thats what I thought because ANOBTD was (at least in the US) Queen's greatest hit. Not to mention that with the advent of music videos, they were able to promote new stuff via MTV. |
| mr4thofjuly 19.01.2006 09:46 |
Queen's sales figures were massive in the seventies,and very poor especially in the US during the rest of the 80's.Infact Queen as a band were finished in the US soon after Another One Bites The Dust.The sales figures are one thing,but the music is quite another.The bulk of Queen's output during the 80's was substandard,mostly due to the fact that the entire decade was so dreadful musically,that Queen had to adapt to current trends in order to survive.That meant producing weak synth driven tacky pop tunes directed at an increasingly ignorant audience.Fast forward to the present day,and the results of that world wide decline are there for all to see.The seventies were Queen's greatest era,both on a musical level,and in terms of success.There is no debate. |
| Togg 19.01.2006 10:02 |
Apart from the facts, look up the sales figures even the band state the 80's as thier biggest selling period world wide. Your speaking about one country, in south america the band were huge |
| Togg 19.01.2006 10:23 |
October 4, 1980 Queen caps the biggest year of their career with another #1 hit, the funk-influenced "Another One Bites the Dust." Quote Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Over 130 million records sold They had one spike of sales in the 70's that compared to later sales, however worldwide sales went up so fast they didn't bother worrying about the US They did their biggest tour ever in 1986 and in the UK they are third highest with time in the UK charts after Cliff I believe. Now you tell me the 80's was a failure! |
| Togg 19.01.2006 10:24 |
Togg wrote: October 4, 1980 Queen caps the biggest year of their career with another #1 hit, the funk-influenced "Another One Bites the Dust." Quote from Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Over 130 million records sold They had one spike of sales in the 70's that compared to later sales, however worldwide sales went up so fast they didn't bother worrying about the US They did their biggest tour ever in 1986 and in the UK they are third highest with time in the UK charts after Cliff I believe. Now you tell me the 80's was a failure! |
| john bodega 19.01.2006 10:36 |
"Your not a Queen fan you are a Brian and Roger fan." Uhm. Ok, let's look at this - if you define me as being a fan of something because I like it, then yes - I'm a Queen fan because I like all their music pretty much from 73 to 95. I also like what Brian and Roger did and still do. Can't I be both? Please? "Most REAL Queen fans do not accept Queen + PR to be a good thing" Yeah but what is a frickin' "real fan" anyway? Who made *you* the one that decides? Fool! "If you insist on being a Queen fan, a true Queen fan you should not be condonning this dispicabel excuse for a tour under OUR Queen, the fans Queen. We bought their records we made them rich they should listen to there REAL fans" Who's we? You talk like there's this hidden army ready to rise up behind you, when it's really only a few of you pretending to care about it that much. And there's a shitload of people who *do* like the music. Maybe they're the real fans? Maybe, even if they're not - if they're happy it's no reason to stop them. "WE DON'T WANT THIS SHIT!! POOR FREDDIE MUST BE WEEPING IN HIS GRAVE. TRAITORS!!" I totally endorse your option to hate the music they're making, but can't you understand - it's only music. Other people are enjoying it a *lot*, the people who are playing it are having a ball.. why can't you just accept that? "I think i was just proven to be correct in eveything i said to this date." Darwin Awards. Look 'em up. "Any criticism of Mr May and Taylor always causes this type of irrational response from lame brained robotic,arse licking types,who think they can do no wrong,simply because they used to make great records." ... no, I think they can do PLENTY wrong. I hate, for instance, their duo with 5ive or Robbie Williams. I HATE that shit. I don't like this tour because Brian and Roger thought it up. I like it because they seem to have a lot of fun doing it and (while not liking the treatment of all the songs universally) I can appreciate the finer musical moments, and they are there. "You know in your heart that Queen are finished,and have been for the best part of 26 years,but still you cling on to this hopeless wish of one last great record." .... no, I don't actually. I'd listen to it, and if it was good it'd be a pleasant surprise. "As i said,Save Me is a great song,but one or two good songs in nearly a decade doesn't cut it for me,and i still believe that Queen were finished as a creative unit at the end of the seventies." But that simply is not true. There are songs (Princes of the Universe, Was it All Worth It) that, while they might strike you as unpleasant to listen to, are incredible pieces of music when you get down to it. So many little things going on in each song - and The Miracle, while shat upon as airy fairy and hippy music, is actually pretty special too. You wouldn't admit that though. Like I said - you can HATE it until you're blue in the face, but that can't detract from it's qualities. There are Queen songs I think are pretty stupid (Invisible Man for instance) but there are things about them I like. Can't you understand that? "Can Queen and Paul make great records for another five or ten years?I think we all know the answer to that,don't we?." Who cares about ten years? fuck that, it's ten years away. Pull your head out of your arse. "I don't want to disappoint you,but it's never going to happen,nor could it." I'm... not disappointed - look, are you making this shit up? "Freddie was the creative element in this band" In saying so, you discount songs like The Prophet Song and Procession. And 39. And Long Away. You're a fucktard. "-and without him you have nothing,sure Brian is an excellent guitarist" And composer. And pianist. And, when you get down to it, he didn't have Freddie's range but he was a most emotive singer. |
| john bodega 19.01.2006 10:36 |
"The show must go on was written about Freddie's illness not whether Queen would continue after his death. Dip Shit get your facts right." BPP - you are only partly correct in this. For one thing, the song was mostly written by Brian May - ghost writing how he thought Freddie might feel. Since the song is largely his, you could argue that it's open to interpretation, and that Brian wrote the song because he saw a future in Queen's work. Might be fluff for all I care, really, but just the same as "we" don't know, "you" don't know, so kindly shuddup. "On just this site? Well overwhelming majority also hates Paul." The overwhelming majority voted Bush in. Look - if nobody turned up to Brixton, Sheffield or Barcelona, I'd agree with you and say nobody wants him. But they *do*, don't you get it? For shit's sake, just surrender and it won't hurt at all. (oh, I hope you're not another person that hated their 80's songs. You won't get that last line). "If this so called new version of Queen is as popular around the world as you say,then surely they can easily equal the achievements of the genuine Queen.Firstly,they will have to provide all those tens of millions with some brand new material,which i'm sure they can do with ease!Paul will have his work cut out." You remind me a little of Hitler - insisting that the Luftwaffe not shoot down allied aircraft anywhere but over Germany, because it would boost morale on the homefront to see enemies downed on German soil. In short - you're delusional. "Had Queen toured during the eighties performing eighties releases,how popular do you think that would have been?" Not as popular, by far. "Sure they dropped in the odd new track,but it would have been suicide to have ignored their greatest songs.Don't forget Queen's entire reputation was build upon their strongest material which was created during the seventies. The dreadful nursery rhyme pop of songs such as,I Want To Break Free,and Radio Ga Ga,can't possibly compare to songs such as,Father To Son,White Queen,Bohemian Rhapsody,Killer Queen,Drowse,In The Rap Of The Gods Revisited,My Melancholy Blues,It's Late,We Are The Champions,etc.I could name another 50 songs from this era,and all stand head and shoulders above anything from the eighties period." Then why don't you? Of course, it won't prove you've heard any of their catalogue. It would just show you know how to copy-paste. Radio Gaga has an awful drum sound and synthesisers ruin it, but it actually has a quite wonderful melody to it. The Freddie intervention on this track is decidedly noticable. "It was not just Queen who suffered on a creative level during that miserable decade,but just about every high profile act produced very little in the way of quality material." It was a miserable decade, but you know I think Queen weathered it a bit better than other acts did. "To think that this current Brian,Roger,and Paul effort,can challenge,or even approach Queen at their peak is ludicrous in the extreme." But how do you define 'approach' or 'equal'? What are they out to do? Best themselves? No! They're different people now, it was 30 years ago. You're telling people to grow up, move on - yet you can't do it yourself. They *are* moving on, this is a different outfit now. Grow up. "I think you'll find my opinion is the overwhelming opinion amongst genuine Queen fans.Anybody who says,Queen 1980 something is better than Queen 1970 something,is either a liar,or mad." Or... and here's a big one, they just LIKE something better than something else? Jesus Christ. "I think you would be crazy to suggest there are more fans of the 80's Queen,than the 70's.I would say that if any fan is honest,they could never in their right mind favour the cheesy kids pop band that Queen became mid eighties,over the brilliant inspired rock band of the 70's.You don't |
| mr4thofjuly 20.01.2006 14:22 |
Queen.R.I.P. |
| magicalfreddiemercury 20.01.2006 15:29 |
mr4thofjuly wrote: Queen.R.I.P.Queen - Really Incredible Performers |
| bryans permed poodle 15069 20.01.2006 18:44 |
magicalfreddiemercury wrote:With Freddie = Yes, with Gimp= Nomr4thofjuly wrote: Queen.R.I.P.Queen - Really Incredible Performers |
| john bodega 20.01.2006 23:41 |
"I don't know why some people call Brian & Roger 'Queen' Queen is gone, it has been for 14 years. You just don't want to admit it to yourself. " No... no I realise it's not Queen. Duh. Anyone can tell you that. But basically, what you have is 2 people from Queen, playing Queen music, with some of their friends. What are going to call the band then? "Two People From Queen and Their Friends Play Queen Music"?. Jesus, if you do it that way they mention Queen TWICE instead of once, so you'd hate it even more. Look, the name they've picked is short, effective, and to the point. Of course it's not frickin' Queen you douchebags. But it makes people happy, and I'm sure if you pulled your head out of your bum for a minute and just went to one of these shows, you'd probably enjoy yourself. "Queen R.I.P". You are not the only one who's pissed that Freddie caught AIDS and died. It makes me absolutely miserable to see that such a musician is dead. But uh... get over it. 14 years now. It's not like you even knew him. |
| Hooligan's Holiday 21.01.2006 09:58 |
Perhaps it is you that's the gimp, BPP. You're just blaming it on Paul to hide your own wrongdoings. |
| bryans permed poodle 15069 25.01.2006 18:31 |
Paul should be sent packing with a microphone up his bottom |
| Hooligan's Holiday 28.01.2006 10:44 |
No, maybe you should. Paul deserves our gratitude!! Not our insults. |
| Sharon G. 28.01.2006 10:50 |
snow flakey wrote:Yup. tis true.Bryans Permed Pants wrote: Paul should be sent packing with a microphone up his bottomLOL! Yes. |
| mr4thofjuly 28.01.2006 12:24 |
Can't wait for Paul's modern day Bohemian Rhapsody to see the light of day.They've slaughtered Freddie's songs live,now it's time to hear some brand new recordings!!I can see a lovely sparkling version of Alright Now on the horizon. |
| magicalfreddiemercury 28.01.2006 12:33 |
mr4thofjuly wrote: Can't wait for Paul's modern day Bohemian Rhapsody to see the light of day.They've slaughtered Freddie's songs live,now it's time to hear some brand new recordings!!I can see a lovely sparkling version of Alright Now on the horizon.Fact - We all know Paul is no Freddie - there will never be another Freddie. Having said that - and I'm not being testy here, I'm truly curious - How have they ruined the songs? Is it just his voice? His stage presence (or lack of)? Would it seem so horrible if it were Paul simply doing a cover of a Queen song? |
| mr4thofjuly 28.01.2006 13:07 |
This is Paul Rodgers covering Queen material.Some misguided people in this forum seem to think this is Queen,and continue to fool themsleves into thinking that this is anything but a cheap cash-in.What offends me is the use of the word Queen.Queen are no more,and how anyone can believe otherwise,is bizarre. |
| LadyMoonshineDown 28.01.2006 14:49 |
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| LadyMoonshineDown 28.01.2006 14:52 |
Bryans Permed Pants wrote: Just wish he would get lost Brian and Roger create your own band and leave Queen songs and the Queen name alone. I WILL NOT BUY ANY MORE QUEEN DVD'S or CD'S UNTIL BRIAN AND ROGER STOP CALLING THEMSELVES QUEEN, QUEEN + or QUEEN + GIMP. Good for you. I'm sure your sales by themselves were enormous for their profit, nevermind the fact that millions of others still buy. Queen died with Freddie in 1991.-Technically, Brian and Roger are fifty percent of 'Queen.' And as for your little "boycott": Good for you. I'm sure your sales by themselves were enormous for their profit, nevermind the fact that millions of others still buy Queen records. Your boycott will seriously hurt them financially, I'm sure. Cheers |
| Indo77 28.01.2006 21:01 |
mr4thofjuly wrote: This is Paul Rodgers covering Queen material.Some misguided people in this forum seem to think this is Queen,and continue to fool themsleves into thinking that this is anything but a cheap cash-in.What offends me is the use of the word Queen.Queen are no more,and how anyone can believe otherwise,is bizarre.I pretty much agree with many of the points you have made. I have nothing against Paul Rodgers, I am sure he is a top bloke. It's Rodger and Brian performing this reunion as Queen that peeves me off. Quite simply this is not Queen, this is Rodger and Brian's egos being massaged. I have so much respect for John Deacon who for years has refused to take part in these pompous live performances. It was an absolute disgrace that Brian and Rodger peformed We Will Rock You with Five almost nuking the Queen legacy. I just stick to the 70s concerts and will only buy DVDs if they are of any interest to me. QP are a poor judge of DVD selections. |
| john bodega 29.01.2006 00:07 |
"This is Paul Rodgers covering Queen material.Some misguided people in this forum seem to think this is Queen,and continue to fool themsleves into thinking that this is anything but a cheap cash-in.What offends me is the use of the word Queen.Queen are no more,and how anyone can believe otherwise,is bizarre." Completely wrong, nobody thinks it's Queen because it's not. You're an idiot. You do a fair imitation of enragement at all this, but the fact is that you, BPP, whoever else (you're all practically one person because you have nothing new to say) are emotionless fops with absolutely no substance. You pretend to weep over Freddie and say deep-and-meaningful things like 'QUEEN RIP 1991' but you are really, a joke. According to one of you, Queen completely sucked since 1980! Uh-huh, according to you, songs like These Are the Days of Our Lives, The Show Must Go On and Mother Love rank as weak material? You're absolutely pisspoor. Go back to practising at the 'I care about Queen' act because you're not fooling anyone. |
| LadyMoonshineDown 29.01.2006 00:36 |
B. a. b. i. e. s. Cheers |
| john bodega 29.01.2006 04:33 |
What the fuck, my post is halfway up the page. |
| spymyshadow 29.01.2006 09:06 |
there are many things in this matter that are not enough clear to me. If pr is not substituting freddie, they should change the name of the band. Ok, bri and rog are queen members as freddie was, and they can do anything they like. But the problem is that there's no queen without freddie, and I would like to point out, all the more without JOHN DEACON, whose precious role of main adviser of the band has always been underrated. and it is apparent that a good avice to bri and rog is sadly lacking. If the name did not change, and bri and rog can do whatever they like, why not telling publicly that he's the new frontman? what is pr actually doing then? All we know is what he is not. Is he then an egomaniac allowed to jump on stage wherever they are touring? And if he is actually the new queen member, let me just say that they can do anythig they like, bri and rog have all my respect. But if I have to speak about taste, I am sorry to say that the pr and queen thing really sucks....sucks...and sucks....and people like me and bpp won't ever buy anything remotely connected with pr. And we're not alone, considering what a flop ROTC was. Freddie used to say that if people hadn't bought his records, he would have not been stil there. And pr is not exempted from that. |
| magicalfreddiemercury 29.01.2006 10:01 |
spymyshadow wrote: If the name did not change, and bri and rog can do whatever they like, why not telling publicly that he's the new frontman? what is pr actually doing then? ...And if he is actually the new queen member, let me just say that they can do anythig they like, bri and rog have all my respect. But if I have to speak about taste, I am sorry to say that the pr and queen thing really sucks...See, when a more rational voice cuts through the anger, the argument is easier to hear. I actually think I’m in agreement with the ‘other side’. Originally, I wanted to give Q+PR a chance because Brian and Roger were a major part of a band I adored for decades. However, when at a concert, watching DVD’s, looking at pictures, listening to the music, or buying solo albums, I’m always focused on Freddie. He, for me, was the one worth seeing. He’s my all-time favorite performer. That doesn’t mean I respect the others any less, just that I won’t go out of my way to see them. When ROTC came out, I did my Queen-fan part and looked it up. I listened to sample tracks but wasn’t impressed. It was too similar to be so different. When the video of BoRap with PR came out, I paid and downloaded it. It was so very sad to hear Freddie’s voice in that arena and see his image on the screen. I know why they did it, but to me, the whole thing felt like a cruel tease. We (I) loved him then and still do. I missed him. Then PR came on at the end and when he sang his final line (quite well, I think), I simply nodded and thought, ‘those are mighty big shoes you’re trying to fill’. I shut it down and haven’t looked at it since. I wish Brian and Roger well in this – Queen is their life, and I feel we have no right to take that from them. It might please many of the old fans and bring on some new, but, for me, it’s too damn sad and hollow without Freddie. The thrill the music is supposed to bring back isn’t there. I find myself in tears instead. I’ll listen to my Freddie solo albums and my Queen albums, and I’ll enjoy the music and the band as they were way back when. I won’t curse this new venture though. I’ll just be happy the music is still being played for those who want to hear it. |
| john bodega 29.01.2006 22:22 |
"Paul is shit. End of discussion. RIP Freddie + Queen" Unfortunately, 'end of discussion' rank among the most moronic 3 words one can utter in any dialogue. You do not control the discussion, you can't say when it's over. Shit, if you did, would I be posting now? Wouldn't it be more like: "I don't like Paul, I think he sucks. I don't think Queen is anything without Freddie". Christ, I have a profound feeling that you're some kind of potato that's fallen on the keyboard. It's the only possible way one could dribble so much *shit*. |
| john bodega 30.01.2006 08:10 |
"Correct." You mean - 'I agree', right? Look - Paul Rodgers is good at what he does, you might not like it, I might not like it (well, it's okay, but not my favourite kind of music) but you can't arbitrarily just say 'this is shit'. You don't decide for everyone - heck, a whole lot of people might agree/disagree with you but at the end of the day it doesn't matter a shit. People are enjoying this tour. SHUDDUP. |
| Fenderek 30.01.2006 08:19 |
boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Zebonka, I like you, but you just keep those ridiculous threads on top of the page... Don't have anything better to do? Like discuss with people who use more than just one brain cell? |
| john bodega 30.01.2006 11:28 |
"Zebonka, I like you, but you just keep those ridiculous threads on top of the page... Don't have anything better to do? Like discuss with people who use more than just one brain cell?" I like you too. Heh there's an idea... I thought perhaps at least one of these boneheads might actually have a reason for hating Paul Rodgers but they don't. They just do it because they can and it's pathetic. Everything I have to say to these nitwits has been said, and so I bow out of this crap. |
| deleted user 30.01.2006 12:47 |
snow flakey wrote: 1.He can't sing. 2.Hes replacing Freddie. 3.He has absolutely no talent at all. 4.His face looks like a baboons ass. 5.I have never heard of Paul Rodgers before, and I'm sure other people have neither.1. He can sing 2. He is not replacing Freddie 3. He has talent 4. Well that was a pretty childish thing to say wasn't it? 5. For your info, loads of people have heard of Paul Rodgers. He's a big name in rock and roll, if you even know what that is |
| bryans permed poodle 15069 30.01.2006 18:24 |
snow flakey wrote: "I don't like Paul, I think he sucks. I don't think Queen is anything without Freddie". Correct.Agreed Paul Rodgers is next to useless he must go. Snowflaky and BPP are right. Why don't you listen to them ? |
| bryans permed poodle 15069 31.01.2006 14:05 |
snow flakey wrote: "I don't like Paul, I think he sucks. I don't think Queen is anything without Freddie". Correct.I have a cheesy knob but I agree |
| bryans permed poodle 15069 31.01.2006 17:58 |
snow flakey wrote: "I don't like Paul, I think he sucks. I don't think Queen is anything without Freddie". Correct.You are correct |
| bryans permed poodle 15069 17.02.2006 17:39 |
Bryans Permed Poodle wrote:I agree with myselfsnow flakey wrote: "I don't like Paul, I think he sucks. I don't think Queen is anything without Freddie". Correct.You are correct |
| englishyob 20.02.2006 17:01 |
I think i agree when i say YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWN STILL BORING |
| TeaKettlesResurrection 20.02.2006 17:07 |
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| bryans permed poodle 15069 27.02.2006 18:56 |
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| jordanjo 07.03.2006 23:45 |
yes i think paul is a gimp too |
