| OgreBattleField1980 01.01.2006 09:50 |
I just got this on dvd off of ebay in surprisingly perfect quality. I know its not the full show as Keep Yourself alive and Liar were cut in half/edited. But I would have to think that if they do release a 70s concert this one would be perfect because less work would have to be put into it. The setlist to me was perfect and I am starting to like this one more than even earls court. Especially since hearing In the lap of the gods (not revisited). |
| kdj2hot 01.01.2006 11:37 |
Setlist is far from perfect, no Bohemian Rhapsody, no We will Rock You, no We are the Champions, no Another one bites the Dust or Crazy Little Thing called Love. Hon, the setlist maybe perfect to you or me but we're fans and the record companies know it's always a disaster if you release something that only appeal to the hardcore fanbase. |
| bitesthedust 01.01.2006 13:41 |
Firstly, all those songs you mention were not around in 1974. Secondly, it is a great concert (my favourite, in actual fact) and I for one would like to see this released in complete form on CD and DVD. Unfortunately this will probably never happen as the set does not contain enough hits for the casual fan to buy. People like myself who appreciate the fact that the entire Queen catalogue consists of 15 studio albums from 1973-1995, would love to have this. |
| Loser In The End 01.01.2006 13:43 |
No We Will Rock you? No Shit!!!? Believe it or not, they were actually quite big even before Bohemian Rhapsody. Queen II and Sheer Heart Attack are today deemd to be classic rock albums. It won't sell as much as Live At Wembley? So fucking what. Live At Wembley was a greatest hits set - go figure. They issued that early on, knowing it would be an easy sell. Rainbow '74 would still sell well, Queen Productions and Parlophone know this. In extended form, it would include Seven Seas Of Rhye, Killer Queen and Now I'm Here - 3 well known classic tracks that still get radio play. |
| bitesthedust 01.01.2006 13:43 |
thank you !! someone who understands.... |
| Loser In The End 01.01.2006 13:48 |
I really do believe it will get a DVD release at some point. To me, it's the band at their best - everything gels... the music, the image. Issue a sampler to radio of Seven Seas Of Rhye, Killer Queen & Now I'm Here and video clips to VH1/VH2 etc and there would be plenty of interest. |
| Deacons 1st Choice 01.01.2006 14:55 |
I completely agree. The Rainbow gig is stunning and shows Queen at there VERY BEST...before all the fame took it's toll, both musically and creativly. Here you can see what Queen were REALLY all about in full glory. It's these early shows that show the true genuis this band had. I'd take this over any greatest hits retread....hearing the "hits" over and over can actually get very dull! I'm all for more Early Era releases. Rainbow should be issued on dvd. Perhaps they can market it around the Holidays, and add the "other" Rainbow show ( from X-mas Eve) to the package? What Queen Fan would'nt want that? |
| bitesthedust 01.01.2006 15:10 |
you mean Hammersmith 75? that's the christmas eve show... |
| pcgenius9 01.01.2006 16:00 |
I was thinking (wishfully)... A "Queen Conquer Hammersmith" 2 DVD set - with 75 and 79 and special colour glossy booklet! |
| kdj2hot 01.01.2006 16:39 |
Loser In The End wrote: No We Will Rock you? No Shit!!!? Believe it or not, they were actually quite big even before Bohemian Rhapsody. Queen II and Sheer Heart Attack are today deemd to be classic rock albums. It won't sell as much as Live At Wembley? So fucking what. Live At Wembley was a greatest hits set - go figure. They issued that early on, knowing it would be an easy sell. Rainbow '74 would still sell well, Queen Productions and Parlophone know this. In extended form, it would include Seven Seas Of Rhye, Killer Queen and Now I'm Here - 3 well known classic tracks that still get radio play.Genius, that's why they haven't released it because you release stuff like that with the hope it will appeal to demographics outside of hardcore fans. Those people know Queen with the hits. That's why it hasn't been released even in the edited version on dvd. It's not complicated stuff, just simple business. A boxset maybe, but not an individual release. It wouldn't sell and they'll lose money. The people who do buy it and aren't fans would be left with a bad taste in their mouth if they expectBohemian Rhapsody at some point and don't get it. Killer Queen, yes. Keep your self alive, extremely respected by even casual fans. Seven Seas of Rhye, no. I wouldn't say that's one of their most famous songs. |
| kdj2hot 01.01.2006 16:41 |
bitesthedust<br><h6>The QZ gentleman... wrote: Firstly, all those songs you mention were not around in 1974. Secondly, it is a great concert (my favourite, in actual fact) and I for one would like to see this released in complete form on CD and DVD. Unfortunately this will probably never happen as the set does not contain enough hits for the casual fan to buy. People like myself who appreciate the fact that the entire Queen catalogue consists of 15 studio albums from 1973-1995, would love to have this.Brainiac, when did I imply the songs were around in '74. I was replying to someone who said the setlist was perfect. As far as the Queen catalog goes and a casual fan standpoint it's not perfect. |
| bitesthedust 01.01.2006 17:00 |
it was perfect for the time, that's the point. |
| Freya is quietly judging you. 01.01.2006 17:06 |
Queen Live at The Rainbow in '74 is a great concert for me one of the greatest i love the setlist, but it's true it would probably only appeal to us die hard fans. |
| bitesthedust 02.01.2006 03:55 |
agreed, but what Queen live release hasn't got overdubs? I have no insider knowledge but I believe the next CD/DVD release will be Hammersmith 1979. |
| deleted user 02.01.2006 06:40 |
<font color=FF0099>Linda Of The Valley wrote:Why put 2 completely different shows, wich are worth single releases, from completely different years in one box?pcgenius9 wrote: I was thinking (wishfully)... A "Queen Conquer Hammersmith" 2 DVD set - with 75 and 79 and special colour glossy booklet!like thats gonna happen but we can all dream *sigh* that would be sweet though!! :) I would really be discusted Rainbow's never gonna be official (unless there is going to be a box set). I mean people wouldn't pay 30 euro for a DVD with a show from 60 minutes from wich they only recoginze 1 or 2 songs. Forget it. |
| OgreBattleField1980 02.01.2006 09:43 |
Was it not officially released on VHS some time ago? I thought it was because I also saw a VHS version of this which has a cover very similar to the US release Greatest Hits package from Hollywood records. If they did it then they can just as well re release it now as it would probably sell even MORE now that Queen and Paul Rodgers are gonna be touring the states here in the spring anyhow lets not forget that. |
| OgreBattleField1980 02.01.2006 09:44 |
and bites the dust erm chris i believe your name is. Thanks for the backup on this didnt expect that. |
| Serry... 02.01.2006 10:36 |
OgreBattleField1980 wrote: Was it not officially released on VHS some time ago? I thought it was because I also saw a VHS version of this which has a cover very similar to the US release Greatest Hits package from Hollywood records. If they did it then they can just as well re release it now as it would probably sell even MORE now that Queen and Paul Rodgers are gonna be touring the states here in the spring anyhow lets not forget that.Yes, it was. link link |
| Ready_Coddie 02.01.2006 11:47 |
I remember at that time Queen had no money & a lot of probs with em... But it was remarkable how much energy & enthusiasm they put then. Even after Sheer Heart attack was released, they were not all too popular... but still just see how they handle themselves out there. Their perfomance in Ogre battle, Killer Queen & both the lap of the gods version was just a MIRACLE! |
| pcgenius9 02.01.2006 12:55 |
I was talking to somebody from Australia who doesn't understand much about Queen. But they said that on the 27th of Dec (a few days ago), he saw a Queen concert on television. He said that Freddie was wearing a superman costume...we all know what gig this was. |
| Rick 02.01.2006 14:23 |
<font color=black>Dennis Daja<h6>QZs God wrote:Dude, many songs were cut and some are even absent. The length of the concert in total is about 80-85 minutes, just like the other shows from that tour (e.g. Cologne 1974).<font color=FF0099>Linda Of The Valley wrote:Why put 2 completely different shows, wich are worth single releases, from completely different years in one box? I would really be discusted Rainbow's never gonna be official (unless there is going to be a box set). I mean people wouldn't pay 30 euro for a DVD with a show from 60 minutes from wich they only recoginze 1 or 2 songs. Forget it.pcgenius9 wrote: I was thinking (wishfully)... A "Queen Conquer Hammersmith" 2 DVD set - with 75 and 79 and special colour glossy booklet!like thats gonna happen but we can all dream *sigh* that would be sweet though!! :) It will see the light of day some day, just wait... |
| gaza1 22.01.2006 06:13 |
Rainbow show was released in a boxset either late 80"s or early 90's cant remember title of set sorry |
| Mr. Barcelona 23.01.2006 00:29 |
I love this show, live at the rainbow was one of their best. |
| Oberon62AU 23.01.2006 01:13 |
Live At The Rainbow came out as part of the Box Of Tricks for the poster above who wasnt sure. I think a 2DVD set along the lines of the QUEEN CONQUER HAMMERSMITH suggestion above would be great. For a start, because it would contain two full shows you would be able to offer a greater choice of songs for the casual fan, which would translate to greater sales possibilities [which is why the record company might go for it]. It would also allow for the shorter running time of the shows if any footage cant be found etc. In fact, one of the earlier ideas I saw floated somewhere else was that Queen might follow Led Zeppelin's example and release a compilation live DVD. In Zep's case this was apparently because they didnt have a lot of footage. In Queen's case the reason to do it would be if they have incomplete shows, they can show case a lot of shows for which they only have _some_ footage. So, you could include Rainbow, Hyde Park, Hammersmith 75 etc as part of one big 2 or 3 disc set. Personally Id be all for it if I thought it would mean getting a lot of this stuff out officially in good quality. The market may just not be there to justify the cost of putting out a lot of early shows individually otherwise. Whatever happens it will be interesting to see what is released. CHeers Steve |
| sparverius 26.01.2006 06:30 |
The fact that Live At The Rainbow 1974 was officially released in the limited edition "Box of Tricks" (which IIRC also included a CD with 12" remixes, mostly from The Works, a fantastic pin and a booklet with photos) goes to show that Queen Productions or whoever released it considered that the target group (i.e., more hardcore fans) was not big enough to grant the release with commercial success worthy of the band's fame. And in any case it would be a bit embarrassing for everybody to witness an official Queen release with "new" material (i.e., not a compilation of already released songs etc.) climbing to about 25 in the charts and falling off the top 40 next week. IMO, that's how high it would go. |
| Fenderek 26.01.2006 07:23 |
sparverius wrote: And in any case it would be a bit embarrassing for everybody to witness an official Queen release with "new" material (i.e., not a compilation of already released songs etc.) climbing to about 25 in the charts and falling off the top 40 next week. IMO, that's how high it would go.Well actually it is LIVE compilation of already released songs, isn't it? And how high did ON FIRE go as CD? Not very high. I can guarantee that once DVD is released it will top DVD charts- at this moment, after all this musical stuff, that's granted. IMO, of course. |
| sparverius 26.01.2006 08:16 |
@ Fenderek I agree, but each live performance is different than the other. Not only in the sense that the same song is never played or sounds exactly similar, but also in the historical context in which they belong - i.e., musical prowess, overall feel (as Queen's sound in the earlier days was much harder than later on). I couldn't say the same for compilations of studio tracks. However, I do get your point about a DVD release. The low chart position I mentioned was only about the CD release. |
| Fenderek 26.01.2006 11:31 |
sparverius wrote: @ Fenderek I agree, but each live performance is different than the other. Not only in the sense that the same song is never played or sounds exactly similar, but also in the historical context in which they belong - i.e., musical prowess, overall feel (as Queen's sound in the earlier days was much harder than later on). I couldn't say the same for compilations of studio tracks.I should have put emoticon at the end. Wasn't completely serious, I absolutely agree with you :) |
| A Word In Your Ear 28.01.2006 16:13 |
<font color=blue>Rick<h6>Queenboots</h6> wrote: Dude, many songs were cut and some are even absent. The length of the concert in total is about 80-85 minutes, just like the other shows from that tour (e.g. Cologne 1974).Yes, as Rick says, in those days Queen's set would have just been just under 85 mins, but unfortunately, The official "Bruce Gowers" release of this support film in the cinemas, was only 30 mins long & after searching through the archives, found a further 23 mins footage, which was badly edited back in to the film for the VHS realease. So unless somebody else unoffcialy filmed the concert.(Which most likely didn't happen in those days, no camcorders ect) I think we will have to make do with the 53 minute version. Great gig though. note:- when I was a kid I went to see the "A (PG)" version of "Saturday Night Fever" just to see this "QUEEN live at the Rainbow" support film. :-) |