| kdj2hot 04.12.2005 14:28 |
Anyone have a newslink to a story about the emo kid on myspace who committed suicide? here's his site its been hacked though: link but some crafty ytmnd user saved it and even put what I think was the original music through the myspace media player on it: link People on a site called ytmnd.com are going bananas over it with parodies such as this one: link |
| ibanez122 04.12.2005 15:12 |
kdj2hot wrote: Anyone have a newslink to a story about the emo kid on myspace who committed suicide? here's his site its been hacked though: link but some crafty ytmnd user saved it and even put what I think was the original music through the myspace media player on it: link People on a site called ytmnd.com is going bananas over it with parodies such as this one: linksaw this on another forum..typical emo shit. and no sympathy |
| Rockyuk 04.12.2005 16:04 |
Lots of deaths recently... 2 girls that go to my school got splattered by a train yesterday aswell. One of them in is my brother's class. link |
| Sherwood Forest 04.12.2005 16:10 |
kdj2hot wrote: Anyone have a newslink to a story about the emo kid on myspace who committed suicide? here's his site its been hacked though: link but some crafty ytmnd user saved it and even put what I think was the original music through the myspace media player on it: link People on a site called ytmnd.com is going bananas over it with parodies such as this one: linki fucking hate myspace, people are such idiots with it i cant stand it oh man. im very sad to hear this news i wish people would atleast not use the computer for their suicide notes |
| Penetration_Guru 04.12.2005 16:52 |
I know I'm going to get flamed for this but it has to be said... In the case of two teenage girls who ignore sirens, flashing lights and the fact that the road barriers are down & open a gate to get onto a railway line, my sympathies are mainly with the driver who had to watch them bounce off the front of his train at 70mph, and the level crossing operator who was powerless to prevent them and could only watch as the carnage unfolded before his eyes... sorry. |
| Sherwood Forest 04.12.2005 16:55 |
Penetration_Guru wrote: I know I'm going to get flamed for this but it has to be said... In the case of two teenage girls who ignore sirens, flashing lights and the fact that the road barriers are down & open a gate to get onto a railway line, my sympathies are mainly with the driver who had to watch them bounce off the front of his train at 70mph, and the level crossing operator who was powerless to prevent them and could only watch as the carnage unfolded before his eyes... sorry.and im sorry for laughing at that reply |
| deleted user 04.12.2005 17:04 |
PG for once you make a good point, that driver and crossing keeper will be traumatised now, so really the girls were pretty dam stupid! no sympathy for them, but like PG sed for the other guys! but did sitll did you have to use the word "splattered" ? i mean sick! |
| Music Man 04.12.2005 18:29 |
kdj2hot wrote: Anyone have a newslink to a story about the emo kid on myspace who committed suicide? here's his site its been hacked though: link but some crafty ytmnd user saved it and even put what I think was the original music through the myspace media player on it: link People on a site called ytmnd.com is going bananas over it with parodies such as this one: linkWho else's first thoughts on reading this was, "This has only happened once?" What happened, did his girlfriend break up with him? Wait, no, I mean, did the girl he sort of liked, but never told, express some interest in another guy? My bet is yes. |
| Penetration_Guru 04.12.2005 18:36 |
I didn't actually use the word "splattered" |
| Rockyuk 04.12.2005 18:58 |
I used to word splattered... Its a pretty accurate description... And im the one who knew them both, I dont find using the word splatered offensive. It wasnt as striaghtforward as them just running across ignoring signals, they saw there train on the opposit platform with people getting on, saw the lights go and a siren and thought it ment there train was about to leave, but it turned out it was signals from the train that hit them. When your in a rush, and think your going to miss your train it can be an easily mistake to make, if your not concentrating. They didnt deserve to pay with their lives. |
| kdj2hot 04.12.2005 22:39 |
It's sad that the guy felt so hopeless that he thought that was the only way out... but I'm sorry I don't see how anyone can say there two particular parodies aren't funny: link link |
| Maz 05.12.2005 00:58 |
Perhaps I'm too old to find humor in one's suicide. I would assume that after it occurs to one of your family members, you would feel the same. |
| Music Man 05.12.2005 03:19 |
I have no sympathy or respect for those who commit suicide so conspicuously. Suicide is the ultimate form of selfishness. Therefore, I can easily place it in the "humor-sensitive" category. |
| iGSM 05.12.2005 05:49 |
Agreed. |
| Music Man 05.12.2005 12:37 |
<font color=FF0099>Linda Of The Valley wrote: wow...people are so damn unsensitive about things like this. I guess the only way for them to stop laughing is when it happens to themself.Yeah, stop laughing...and breathing...and all that fun, good stuff~! But ~fortunately~, I'm not so pathetic as to sentiently take my own life, thankyouverymuch! |
| Sonia Doris 05.12.2005 12:39 |
the_hero wrote: sorry I take back the words of "games" as I didn't know it was suicide. Suicide is the most selfish thing there is.*starts singing DOn't Try Suicide* Nice point Thijs. But sometimes it's better to be selfish than selfless xD. |
| Music Man 05.12.2005 13:10 |
<font color=#CC0066>Sonia Doris</font> wrote:Well, it's ALWAYS better for an individual to be selfish then selfless. That's sort of intrinsic to the definitions. It's just worse for society.the_hero wrote: sorry I take back the words of "games" as I didn't know it was suicide. Suicide is the most selfish thing there is.*starts singing DOn't Try Suicide* Nice point Thijs. But sometimes it's better to be selfish than selfless xD. |
| Music Man 05.12.2005 13:26 |
<font color=FF0099>Linda Of The Valley wrote:I'm sorry, but...did you just agree with yourself???<font color=FF0099>Linda Of The Valley wrote: wow...people are so damn unsensitive about things like this. I guess the only way for them to stop laughing is when it happens to themself.so true. you really won't be laughing then.. Anyway, technically every action one takes is selfish. However, the only way a suicide does not become the ultimate form of selfishness is if a) he truly does not know anyone else, or b) he sacrifices himself for someone else. This was not the case, as it seems he did so over a girl. Refer to my first post; it seems that I was correct. |
| Music Man 05.12.2005 13:36 |
<font color=FF0099>Linda Of The Valley wrote:Your conjectures are just as good as ours. I like to laugh, so logically, hey! -Suicide- *Laughs* ^-^Barry © wrote: Sometimes things get so bad for people that the only way out is suicide. I knew this lad called Kevin Davidson, he got his jaw broke off one of our neighbourhood hard men. After that everyone turned against him for reporting this. I was the only one who would say hello to him if I saw him in the street. His windows were getting broken and other stuff on a constant basis. He moved in with his ex wife and her boyfriend, but he still really loved Wendy..he took his own life. The bastards that persecuted him are still walking around, I wont forget them for what they did to him. Most suicides are commited by people not in a right frame of mind, please dont forget that.That's so sad Barry. I'm sorry to hear of it. :( I know, people can be such bastards...that case was a perfect example of what I was saying. You don't know all the cases so please don't laugh at it. There was no way out for that guy... :( Suicide sucks |
| Rockyuk 05.12.2005 13:43 |
the_hero wrote:They were not having games and playing in the tracks. That station is dangerous, there have been near misses in the past, and not involving teenagers playing around.<font color=FF0099>Linda Of The Valley wrote: wow...people are so damn unsensitive about things like this. I guess the only way for them to stop laughing is when it happens to themself.If those people that got hit by a train were teenagers, they had enough knowledge to know what signs there are when a train is passing by... So my guess is that they were have some sort of game to see who can stand the longest or something.. That's why my sympathy goes for the conductor, as he will have traumas of hitting those people. that the teenagers got killed is their own fault, how harsh this might sound. My whole school has been effected by their deaths, today wa sthe quitest I can ever remember the school. One was a good friend of my brother, and he identifed a picture of them to a reporter. |
| Rider32 05.12.2005 14:13 |
I tried Suicide once, i tried to hang myself but the dam Rope snapped so... Dam rope |
| Maz 05.12.2005 17:43 |
Music Man wrote: I have no sympathy or respect for those who commit suicide so conspicuously. Suicide is the ultimate form of selfishness. Therefore, I can easily place it in the "humor-sensitive" category.Just remember that as you laugh at one's death, there are many more people directly influenced by someone's suicide. While strictly speaking, suicide may be the ultimate form of selfishness, it still affects friends and family. How do parents of a 16 year old suicide victim react? Why must we laugh at someone's unfortunate death? When did this become funny and open for mocking? |
| Music Man 05.12.2005 20:10 |
Zeni wrote:A) Very sadly. But they are uninvolved in this discussion.Music Man wrote: I have no sympathy or respect for those who commit suicide so conspicuously. Suicide is the ultimate form of selfishness. Therefore, I can easily place it in the "humor-sensitive" category.Just remember that as you laugh at one's death, there are many more people directly influenced by someone's suicide. While strictly speaking, suicide may be the ultimate form of selfishness, it still affects friends and family. How do parents of a 16 year old suicide victim react? Why must we laugh at someone's unfortunate death? When did this become funny and open for mocking? B) We don't have to laugh at someone's death, we choose to. C) Everything is open for mocking. EVERYTHING. Anyway, one look at link shows that it's been funny and open for mocking for quite some time now. It's like, sure, it sucks to have been the friends and family of Hitler, but it's not like Hitler jokes aren't fair game. |
| Maz 05.12.2005 20:30 |
Poor example. Hitler cannot be compared to a teenage suicide; it's apples and oranges. Besides, just because we can doesn't mean we should. Yes, everything can be mocked and, yes, we choose to laugh. But that doesn't mean we should. I can make fun of crippled kids, laugh at diabetics, and curse old ladies, but all that does is make me a jerk. And finally, of course friends and family are part of the discussion. You may choose to ignore them, but the fact is they are linked to suicide. Ask any parent. |
| ibanez122 05.12.2005 20:30 |
Music Man wrote: I have no sympathy or respect for those who commit suicide so conspicuously. Suicide is the ultimate form of selfishness. Therefore, I can easily place it in the "humor-sensitive" category.agreed. ------------------------------------------------ It's sad that the guy felt so hopeless that he thought that was the only way outthats how emo (or people who think they are emo) think, and its a pretty lame attempt to make people feel sorry for them.....so hence no sympathy for the guy |
| Music Man 05.12.2005 20:42 |
Zeni wrote: Poor example. Hitler cannot be compared to a teenage suicide; it's apples and oranges. Besides, just because we can doesn't mean we should. Yes, everything can be mocked and, yes, we choose to laugh. But that doesn't mean we should. I can make fun of crippled kids, laugh at diabetics, and curse old ladies, but all that does is make me a jerk. And finally, of course friends and family are part of the discussion. You may choose to ignore them, but the fact is they are linked to suicide. Ask any parent.I was moreso leaning toward things that the subject of humor directly and knowingly caused. |
| Music Man 05.12.2005 20:44 |
ibanez122 wrote:Most of these "emo" kids are from upper-middle-class families. They want of nothing. They break up with their girlfriends, and since they lived such sheltered lives they resort to self mutilation, eating disorders, and such as coping mechanisms. It just proves how truly weak they are.Music Man wrote: I have no sympathy or respect for those who commit suicide so conspicuously. Suicide is the ultimate form of selfishness. Therefore, I can easily place it in the "humor-sensitive" category.agreed. ------------------------------------------------It's sad that the guy felt so hopeless that he thought that was the only way outthats how emo (or people who think they are emo) think, and its a pretty lame attempt to make people feel sorry for them.....so hence no sympathy for the guy |
| inu-liger 05.12.2005 21:04 |
Music Man wrote:I think it's because of that crap "emo" music out there, which my youngest sister has taken a "liking" to, unfortunately.ibanez122 wrote:Most of these "emo" kids are from upper-middle-class families. They want of nothing. They break up with their girlfriends, and since they lived such sheltered lives they resort to self mutilation, eating disorders, and such as coping mechanisms. It just proves how truly weak they are.Music Man wrote: I have no sympathy or respect for those who commit suicide so conspicuously. Suicide is the ultimate form of selfishness. Therefore, I can easily place it in the "humor-sensitive" category.agreed. ------------------------------------------------It's sad that the guy felt so hopeless that he thought that was the only way outthats how emo (or people who think they are emo) think, and its a pretty lame attempt to make people feel sorry for them.....so hence no sympathy for the guy I feel bad for her, cos she gets called an "emo kid" at school, and some have even thrown "Tickle-Me-Emo" jokes at her (which I kinda found a bit funny on the pun part, but did not like the fact that it was being used towards her). Seems to me that there aren't as many "emo" kids around as I thought initially. I've never talked about this up until now to anyone outside of my family, but her attitude's changed a LOT ever since she started listening to Evanescence (csp?). She gets very moody, argumentive, and seems to believe that she's "doing nothing but ruining your (by that, I mean our family's) lives" when in truth, she's not. Although I do have to say that she takes after some of the "qualities" that I had as a younger teenager when I was her (current) age, and I don't mean the nice ones necessarily. So it's hard to tell what's coming from normal "teen angst", and what's coming from this "emo" shit that we have to put up with, in terms of her outlook and attitude. I personally think "emo" music should be banned. It offers nothing good, especially in terms of feelings and lyrics. ED: PS. Music Man is right about "emo" kids coming from upper-middle-class families. We are definitely not an exception, my family, as we are very much well off. |
| Music Man 05.12.2005 21:26 |
Well, nowadays banning "emo" music would be like banning all music. Everything and anything is categorized as emo, and it's really hard to tell what's destructive and what isn't. That aside, that music is not so much destructive as it is so that it gives young, impressionable children the idea that such acts as self-mutilation and depression are "cool." And the "more different, yet conforming to emo styles" you are, the more "cool" you are, as well. It does this in a very subtle way. Music artists complain about such issues as a struggle, and something which they regret. Sort of like a lot of drug-oriented music. They are not saying it's good, but by saying it's not good, they are inadvertently making it "cool." I'm thinking as I go, but this, psychologically, is how I perceive it. Now, don't get me wrong; I think a ban on this music is a silly idea. However, these are the facts, and that's all I'm presenting you. These kids worship their idols just like we all do. Don't tell me you have never tried to be just like your idol, whether it be Freddie, Brian, Roger, John (hehe), or some other famous (or not) person. Thus, being depressed, making decisions you regret, etc. becomes "cool." I don't really know where I'm going right now, but that's just how things work in this magical world known as the human mind. |
| jcrawford79 05.12.2005 22:26 |
First of all, NO kind of music should ever be banned. That's rediculous. Secondly, although I feel sorry for this guy's family, its hard to be sympathetic for him. Someone said something about "conspiciuos suicides" earlier in the thread and I agree with that statement. Suicide is selfish but conspicious suicide is narcissism at its worst. I mean, come on, making a suicide post on Myspace.com?? That's not asking for help, but rather, wanting to make the whole world mourn your death. No tears shed from my eye.... |
| ibanez122 05.12.2005 23:13 |
jcrawford79 wrote: First of all, NO kind of music should ever be banned. That's rediculous. Secondly, although I feel sorry for this guy's family, its hard to be sympathetic for him. Someone said something about "conspiciuos suicides" earlier in the thread and I agree with that statement. Suicide is selfish but conspicious suicide is narcissism at its worst. I mean, come on, making a suicide post on Myspace.com?? That's not asking for help, but rather, wanting to make the whole world mourn your death. No tears shed from my eye....Attention whore |
| jcrawford79 05.12.2005 23:29 |
ibanez122 wrote:You said better in two words than what I attempted in an entire paragraph.jcrawford79 wrote: First of all, NO kind of music should ever be banned. That's rediculous. Secondly, although I feel sorry for this guy's family, its hard to be sympathetic for him. Someone said something about "conspiciuos suicides" earlier in the thread and I agree with that statement. Suicide is selfish but conspicious suicide is narcissism at its worst. I mean, come on, making a suicide post on Myspace.com?? That's not asking for help, but rather, wanting to make the whole world mourn your death. No tears shed from my eye....Attention whore |