| Lord Fickle 15.07.2005 17:36 |
Here's my version of Don't Stop Me Now:- link Again, I've stuck fairly closely to the original, but it does let loose for the guitar solo! Please let me know if you like it, and Adam, there's no f**king clicks!! ;) Edit:- Third and final version. |
| Adam Baboolal 15.07.2005 19:29 |
I think you're right to think more about the intro as I thought it could be cut right up to the point the backing vox begin singing -> don't... stop me.. now___ don't stop me... Then Freddie comes in - nice and simple, equaling a really nice opening. You could always do some dreamy piano (pre type reverb) that gives little bits, then that above idea. I wonder why you stick so much processing on certain things, i.e. the solo. That was just weird cause there was so much delay on it. Didn't mind it after the main solo, but all the way throughout was a bit much for my liking. Though, I liked the main track with some different subtle processing. Nice enough, eh? Not a bad ending, too. And damn right there shouldn't be any clicks!! Peace, Adam. |
| Mr Mercury 15.07.2005 21:13 |
Cant add anything more to what Adam said except that the ending was a neat idea. Very good indeed Lord F. |
| emrabt 16.07.2005 04:00 |
i liked both the starting and the ending. antother great fickle mix. |
| Lord Fickle 16.07.2005 04:32 |
Adam Baboolal wrote: I wonder why you stick so much processing on certain things, i.e. the solo.Because I like it! Anyway, I did something with the intro, which I think it a bit better now. Revised version posted. |
| emrabt 16.07.2005 06:46 |
much better |
| jackie 16.07.2005 10:16 |
Yes, 2nd version is better, the edited intro let sound the song much more connected. It´s a average Fickle Mix. That means, it´s another world-class-piece....... |
| Lord Fickle 16.07.2005 10:58 |
OK, stand by yer beds!! After a few more tweaks, the third and final version is now uploaded:- link Original post edited - I think this is THE best version. |
| Adam Baboolal 16.07.2005 11:03 |
Nah, the first version was just right. Vocal sat better the first time and you know what I'm thinking about the intro now..! What I don't understand is why you'd use the same intro on the outro. A little repetitive sounding, especially because the bass is in there at both times. I've processed the end part with Audition's center channel extractor and as you can hear, it removes the bass pretty well. And that was on a compressed MP3! link Peace, Adam. |
| Adam Baboolal 16.07.2005 11:08 |
Nope, I still think the first version was better. All this tweaking is starting to remind me of the Star Wars Special Editions! Peace, Adam. |
| Lord Fickle 16.07.2005 11:11 |
For Christ's sake, Adam, I don't have access to the original master tapes, I can only work with what I have. Your piano outro has 'bumps' where the bass would have been. I'm sure if I had posted that, you would have been the first to mention it. I think mine is OK. I know what you think of the intro, but if I did it as you would like, I might as well just rip and post the original version! We're still waiting to hear one of your remixes, so don't hide your talents any longer! I can't wait to offer my critique! :) |
| Adam Baboolal 16.07.2005 14:08 |
Lord Fickle wrote: For Christ's sake, Adam, I don't have access to the original master tapes, I can only work with what I have. Your piano outro has 'bumps' where the bass would have been.The piano file was a quick example. If I was seriously trying to make it sound decent, I'd have used the original uncompressed wav file, rather than your mixed mp3 and also EQ'd it. Plus some other bits and bobs, but it was only an example. Lord Fickle wrote: ...I think mine is OK. I know what you think of the intro, but if I did it as you would like, I might as well just rip and post the original version! We're still waiting to hear one of your remixes, so don't hide your talents any longer! I can't wait to offer my critique! :)I think you don't like critique anymore because you're starting to realise that no two people think alike. Sure, there are great things coming out of the Fickle camp and I've said so many-a-time. But you can't expect me and others to swallow every mix without some comment that offers ideas or changes. If you don't like them, fair enough. Leave it at that. There's no need to say things like, where's your mix then? etc. That's just a silly thing to say. And I've already said that making mixes is not my thing. But I'd gladly provide help to further an idea. I believe I made a crack about this in your Show Must Go On edit thread. Peace, Adam. |
| Lord Fickle 16.07.2005 15:41 |
Sorry to have been a bit off, Adam. It's not that I don't like critique, but when I twice rework a mix, in an effort to take on board what you, and other people, say (about the intro), and then you turn round and say:-
Adam Baboolal wrote: Nah, the first version was just right.well, to be honest I thought you were taking the piss. As for using the same part as the intro, for the outro, as I said, I only have the basic tracks to work with. Where am I supposed to get a different piano piece from? I do realise what you were saying about the bass part, and yes, it probably could have been removed, but I like it as it is. As for the processed effects, I think I use them to good effect. They are pleasing to me, and to some others. Obviously they are not to your taste, so we will have to agree to differ on that one. As for requesting to hear some of your work, I don't consider it a "silly thing to say". I'm genuinely interested in what you can do, and it's much easier taking critique from someone who has proved to be better at the job. You are usually one of the first to offer critique to a mix, so I don't think it's unreasonable to ask to hear what you can achieve. As a ham fisted guitarist who can barely manage two chords, I could hardly say to Brian May, "'Ere, that solo in Bohemian Rhapsody, it's crap, mate!" Not that I'm implying you are ham-fisted, or a guitarist, or Brian May! Once again, apologies if I over-reacted to your comments. Your constructive views are fully appreciated, but we are obviously not going to agree on certain areas. I do feel, however, that we should all try to be a bit more positive towards other people's efforts, even if they are not to our own taste. There is no contest here now, and none of us are professional sound engineers. This is just for fun. |
| Ale_Pisa 16.07.2005 19:11 |
Thank for this mix! After some times we can hear something new!!! :) |
| mayqueen 17.07.2005 04:08 |
Since this is one of my favorite Queen songs I really looked forward to hearing this. I've really liked all the mixes you've posted and I cant say I was disappointed with this one, it sounds great. I love the intro, it gives it a bit of a feel like we're a fly on the wall listening to Freddie come up with the tune. The outro was pretty good though I did miss Freddie's da-da-daaaa bits. All in all, great job and thanks for posting it! |
| Lord Fickle 17.07.2005 05:00 |
Thank you, Mayqueen! Just for you, here's a version with the la-de-da's! :) link |
| The King Of Rhye 17.07.2005 07:19 |
another excellent job, Lord Fickle! |
| Adam Baboolal 17.07.2005 14:37 |
Lord Fickle wrote: Sorry to have been a bit off, Adam. It's not that I don't like critique, but when I twice rework a mix, in an effort to take on board what you, and other people, say (about the intro), and then you turn round and say:-True, I should've said the first version was better than the subsequent re-edits you'd done since. Rather than saying "just right." That was wrongly worded. But you definitely didn't take on what people said because a whole bunch of things no-one had mentioned came up. The only one that did come from a zoner was the ending with Fred. A nice addition I may add.Adam Baboolal wrote: Nah, the first version was just right.well, to be honest I thought you were taking the piss. Lord Fickle wrote: As for the processed effects, I think I use them to good effect. They are pleasing to me, and to some others. Obviously they are not to your taste, so we will have to agree to differ on that one.Absolutely. I only ever mentioned the effects thing cause it was something I thought was worth mentioning. That was all. Lord Fickle wrote: As for requesting to hear some of your work, I don't consider it a "silly thing to say". I'm genuinely interested in what you can do, and it's much easier taking critique from someone who has proved to be better at the job. You are usually one of the first to offer critique to a mix, so I don't think it's unreasonable to ask to hear what you can achieve.First of all, it's the way you asked. And I see you've gone a step further by making that comment about who's better at the job! Does it really matter?? Fact is, I'm like anyone else on Queenzone, I voice my opinion on things. No-one, and I mean no-one, should have to prove their worth. If you'd just left it at, "I'm genuinely interested in what you can do...", I wouldn't have any problem. Lord Fickle wrote: Your constructive views are fully appreciated, but we are obviously not going to agree on certain areas. I do feel, however, that we should all try to be a bit more positive towards other people's efforts, even if they are not to our own taste. There is no contest here now, and none of us are professional sound engineers. This is just for fun.I did try and say we'd have differing views, so that's cool. But I don't like the idea that I should be 100% positive at everyone's efforts. I'll let others do that, thanks. lol. Well, while I wouldn't call myself a pro, I'd definitely call myself semi-pro as I do get paid for my recording/mixing engineering. So, yes I am a sound engineer. Part of the reason I find this side of QZ pleasurable, I guess. That and I'm a musician, too. Okay, I'll bow to pressure and post the following project I did for college. Firstly, this is not a Queen song. Sorry, there wasn't a choice. I don't know the name of the song. Secondly, it's supposed to be an edit ONLY project. So, there isn't anything extra, so to speak. Unedited original - link My Edit - link Not sure if the song will be liked, but hopefully my edit will be. The idea was to make the song fit between 2:58 and 3:00. Any less or more and you'd be marked down. I got a pretty flattering mark for my edit, too. Peace, Adam. |
| Lord Fickle 17.07.2005 16:03 |
Hi Adam, Firstly, I had no idea that you actually are a sound engineer, which kind of throws a different light on things. In fact, it makes me more appreciative of the positive comments you have made towards some of my mixes, now knowing these come from a 'semi-pro'. I don't mean that sarcastically, it's genuine. It also, perhaps, explains why you may listen with a more critical ear, and pick up on small technical glitches which others may not notice, or bother to comment on. I will certainly bear it in mind, next time you review one of my mixes. On the subject of Don't Stop Me Now, I'm still interested to hear what you didn't like about the second and third versions, after I had cut Freddie in just as you suggested, aside from the processed effects, that is. I even toned down the delay on the guitar solo! I particularly like the left / right / centre echo on the first "supersonic" at around 1:28. As for the track you posted, it's not one I have heard before, and is not my taste at all, so I am disinclined to familiarise myself enough with the full version, to pass any comment on your edit. Suffice to say, I wouldn't have guessed it was an edited version, there are no obvious cuts, and it sounds very professional, which it should do, coming from a sound engineer! Lol! Thanks for posting it though, and sorry to have put you in a position where you felt you had to. Let's call this 'creative differences', and no hard feelings, yes? I wouldn't want there to be an unfriendly vibe between us. Quits? |
| Zander05 17.07.2005 16:11 |
Fickle, I'm listening right now and I gotta say I really like it. The guitar solo sounds great :-) Overall, I give it an A. Keep it up! |
| Lord Fickle 17.07.2005 16:25 |
Adam Baboolal wrote: True, I should've said the first version was better than the subsequent re-edits you'd done since. Rather than saying "just right." That was wrongly worded. But you definitely didn't take on what people said because a whole bunch of things no-one had mentioned came up. The only one that did come from a zoner was the ending with Fred. A nice addition I may add.Oh, you've edited that while I was writing my reply - lol! I do take on what people say, but I'm obviously not going to change what I think is good. It's back to personal tastes again. I already had a version of DSMN which included the la-de-da's at the end, so it was just a question of uploading and posting it as an alternative. Personally, I prefer the version without, as it makes it a little more different, which is why I have left it as the lead post. |
| Haystacks Calhoun 17.07.2005 18:04 |
Keep up the EXCELLENT work, Lord Fickle! It is a pleasure for me to listen to your interpretations of Queen's classic catalogue!!!!! It, in a way I guess, gives a bit of new life to the songs that we have ALL heard over and over and over again! Again, keep doing what you are doing, and I know that Adam means no harm in what he says!! |
| Adam Baboolal 17.07.2005 20:51 |
Oh dang... I'd written a little post and it can't have gone through cause I can't see it anywhere. Anyway, here's the gist of what I'd written... --- Absolutely dude. The one thing I like to come away from these little arguments is both a resolution and to hold no grudges. I'm glad at this, LF. These kind of arguments make me wonder more and more about what Queen did in the studio, etc. We're just having a small tif about our ideas clashing. Just imagine Queen because there were four minds with different ideas coming together to make one piece of music that they can agree to put out. The style, the playing, the specific sounds, the mix, etc. etc. And yeah, that track I posted isn't the greatest song, eh?! A little sympathy for moi who had to sit for hours mapping out a couple of versions! Peace, Adam. |
| mayqueen 17.07.2005 23:13 |
Lord Fickle wrote: Thank you, Mayqueen! |
| Lord Fickle 13.11.2005 18:37 |
Had to bump this, seeing as Dan has done an alternative mix. :) |