| doremi 14.07.2005 11:31 |
Last night I saw a Nissan car commercial I think for the Altima 2006 model, where they used ''Body Language''. Now is this ironic or what? In the 1980's the video from that song was banned in the USA for being so risque, yet now they use the song in a yuppie car commercial. By the way, I have owned 3 Nissan Sentras, which is the less luxury model of the Altima. I am currently on my 3rd which I love. Does that kinda qualify as driving a Queen car? Cool! |
| Sirk 14.07.2005 12:11 |
Hey Arlene this probably sounds really random but are you related to anyone with the surname Tilson? |
| doremi 14.07.2005 12:12 |
er...no WTF? |
| @ndy38 14.07.2005 12:14 |
the song itself wasnt banned was it? i thought it was just the video...... |
| Megamike The GREAT 14.07.2005 12:47 |
Sirk wrote: Hey Arlene this probably sounds really random but are you related to anyone with the surname Tilson?she probably got a list of all 4 Nissan owners and is trying to track you down.. ;-) |
| Sirk 14.07.2005 14:17 |
Mike Preston wrote:Er no lol, i just know some one with that maiden name from the states and was just wondering if they were related.Sirk wrote: Hey Arlene this probably sounds really random but are you related to anyone with the surname Tilson?she probably got a list of all 4 Nissan owners and is trying to track you down.. ;-) |
| good_old_fashioned_loverboy1986 14.07.2005 14:28 |
Hello sorry to be an annoying post but nissan doing that is a correct definition of irony! If they were responsible for getting it banned and then used the video in their advert now that would be irony. what they're doing is a coincidence! I apologise once again for doing this post but I can't stand the incorrect use of words or terms! Sorry |
| deleted user 14.07.2005 14:35 |
how could i want to break free have been banned if it appeared in a C2 commercial? |
| Boy Thomas Raker 14.07.2005 14:46 |
"how could i want to break free have been banned if it appeared in a C2 commercial?" The decency laws in the U.S. are less stringent for soft drink commercials compared to other products. |
| deleted user 14.07.2005 15:19 |
Arlene is one of the people who forget's to think before posting. WTF shouldn't they use the song? (that reached 11 in the charts btw). Due to a video wich is banned. Gees your stupid. |
| Ray D O'Gaga 14.07.2005 15:21 |
Irony can be pretty ironic sometimes. |
| doremi 14.07.2005 15:29 |
<font color=black>The Lord Of Darkness wrote: Arlene is one of the people who forget's to think before posting. WTF shouldn't they use the song? (that reached 11 in the charts btw). Due to a video wich is banned. Gees your stupid.Geez, or gees as in Bee Gees? The thread was meant as not serious irony, but funny irony so relax big fella! ... and I didn't sey Nissan had no right to use the song. My point, was...how times and people's attitudes change. What ''shocked or appalled'' USA audiences 20 years ago, is now considered so wholesome they use it for a yuppie car commercial your mom or dad would drive (or me as I am 44, I drive a Nissan and I could be Your mom, young whippersnapper!) Nowadays rapper 50 Cent is considered ''shocking''. Bet you a decade from now they'll use ''Candy Shop'' on some wholesome commercial. Just ironic how things change with perspective over time. |
| greaserkat 14.07.2005 15:56 |
Arlene claims to be a journalist or reporter or something like that, and that she has done articles for music and movies or something, but yet she doesnt even know the definition of irony. I want to break free wasnt banned here in the States, just the video. The same with Body Language, just the video wasnt shown after a few times, not the song itself. |
| doremi 14.07.2005 16:19 |
greaserkat wrote: Arlene claims to be a journalist or reporter or something like that, and that she has done articles for music and movies or something, but yet she doesnt even know the definition of irony. I want to break free wasnt banned here in the States, just the video. The same with Body Language, just the video wasnt shown after a few times, not the song itself.You claim to read but...not so sure the jury is out on that. What I said was. Arlene R. Weiss wrote: Last night I saw a Nissan car commercial I think for the Altima 2006 model, where they used ''Body Language''. Now is this ironic or what? In the 1980's the video from that song was banned in the USA for being so risque, yet now they use the song in a yuppie car commercial. [quote] You all take this WAY too seriously too folks. As I said i thought it was irony, which it is, in an amusing way how times and peoples attitudes change over the years. How 20 some years ago, the video for that was considered so shocking, now the song behind it is considered so down home wholesome that they use it for a mom and pop yuppie car commercial.Arlene R. Weiss wrote:< The thread was meant as not serious irony, but funny irony so relax big fella! ... and I didn't say Nissan had no right to use the song. My point, was...how times and people's attitudes change. What ''shocked or appalled'' USA audiences 20 years ago, is now considered so wholesome they use it for a yuppie car commercial your mom or dad would drive (or me as I am 44, I drive a Nissan and I could be Your mom, young whippersnapper!) Nowadays rapper 50 Cent is considered ''shocking''. Bet you a decade from now they'll use ''Candy Shop'' on some wholesome commercial. Just ironic how things change with perspective over time. |
| Suigi 14.07.2005 16:43 |
The scary thing is... what are MY kids gonna listen to to piss ME off?! (keep in mind, I'm 18) |
| greaserkat 14.07.2005 18:40 |
Arlene, Arlene, Arlene. There is absolutely no irony in that. IF the commercial would have had a couple of girls in bikinis and a coulple of guys in speedos with sweat all over their bodies inside the baths, with the car like in the middle, THAN that would have been ironic, because it would have been exactly the same as the video that was banned. |
| death to ming! 23397 14.07.2005 19:29 |
Arlene, it's okay to admit that you're wrong. You have misunderstood the meaning of irony. Okay, let's seeeee. The Body Language video is banned by MTV for its *visual* content. A couple of decades later, television networks (nothing to do with a music video channel) air a commercial for a car, without depicting the said "offensive" visuals. So, basically, the crux of the issue - banned visual content - is a non-factor! This case doesn't even meet the minimum requirements for the World Irony Awards. Let me guess... you think Alanis Morissette's hit song "Ironic" is lyrically brilliant, right? |
| deleted user 14.07.2005 23:17 |
I was going to post this, they played the commercial a bunch of times, it's pretty cool hearing Freddie on t.v. |
| deleted user 15.07.2005 03:39 |
Arlene R. Weiss wrote:Yes but (sorry I was a bit pissed off, personal things reall) it was about the clip. The clip was appalling. The clip is totally individual from the song. The song wasn't appalling, so they use it. If they used the clip that would be irony.<font color=black>The Lord Of Darkness wrote: Arlene is one of the people who forget's to think before posting. WTF shouldn't they use the song? (that reached 11 in the charts btw). Due to a video wich is banned. Gees your stupid.Geez, or gees as in Bee Gees? The thread was meant as not serious irony, but funny irony so relax big fella! ... and I didn't sey Nissan had no right to use the song. My point, was...how times and people's attitudes change. What ''shocked or appalled'' USA audiences 20 years ago, is now considered so wholesome they use it for a yuppie car commercial your mom or dad would drive (or me as I am 44, I drive a Nissan and I could be Your mom, young whippersnapper!) Nowadays rapper 50 Cent is considered ''shocking''. Bet you a decade from now they'll use ''Candy Shop'' on some wholesome commercial. Just ironic how things change with perspective over time. |
| goinback 15.07.2005 03:58 |
Death to Ming! wrote: Let me guess... you think Alanis Morissette's hit song "Ironic" is lyrically brilliant, right?Hah! "Rain on your wedding day isn't ironic. What would be ironic is if you had moved from a rainy city like Seattle to the desert or other dry climate, and *then* it rained...." (paraphrasing some guy on VH1) Also that Nissan commercial seems pretty classy and cool so I hope they keep showing it.... |
| goinback 15.07.2005 04:00 |
burr wrote:...except Boy George.sweden_man wrote: how could i want to break free have been banned if it appeared in a C2 commercial?Sorry if someone posted this, but MTV banned I Want To Break Free. The BBC banned Body Language. Why the ban on I Want To Break Free? Drag... at the time, NO ONE did drag on TV. |
| My Melancholy Blues 15.07.2005 04:45 |
andylamb_38 wrote: the song itself wasnt banned was it? i thought it was just the video......I agree. hmm...I wish I could see that commercial. imo...most Queen songs are suitable for commercials because they arouse various imaginations in our minds that are nothing to do with their original promo videos. I think whoever use Queen songs know well about appealing to people's mind effectively. btw, thank you for owning Nissan's cars, for two of my cousins work at Nissan... |
| Stryder 15.07.2005 05:58 |
Arlene, you have to be the most stupid bitch ever. Get a life |
| Adam Baboolal 15.07.2005 08:46 |
Sorry Arlene, but those talking about you misundertanding the irony thing and the banned video, rather than song, are right. It was only the video that was considered risque, not the track itself. Pretty much the same that happened to IWTBF. Peace, Adam. |
| Bobby_brown 15.07.2005 10:23 |
Stryder wrote: Arlene, you have to be the most stupid bitch ever. Get a lifeI think that after this post you really should be removed from this board. Isn't there a moderator that take care of people like you at this board?- Or is this a totally anarchy site where we can say wathever we can? You just call stupid bitch to a person that you don't know. Do you know what's ironic?- I tottaly understood Arlene's first post, and if you want my "stupid" opinion, she is right when talking about the irony of the situation. The ironic thing about this is that i think that all of you really understood what she was trying to say, and instead of answering with that in mind, you went on guiving the real definitions of "irony". I would like to know what you were trying to prove, because to me you didn't prove nothing. Who is to say where i can or can not use the word irony? Let's see more ironic things: - You guys claim that only the video was banned, so i assume that this song was aired even in the more conservative radiostations in America. By the way, i would like to know the airplay that this song received in the states (all the states, please!!). - Twenty three years ago in America i doubt that any big major company would put a song like this (Gay oriented, or sex explicit lirics!) on a comercial without having the more conservative part of the audience complaining about moral and stuff. It's a sign of social evolution. The ironic thing about this is that your posts here at Queenzone revealed to me that some of you are still living in USA 1983. You need to open your minds, and allways remember this: - You don't need the offend other people just to prove that your point of view is the correct one. But what upsets me is that in this case you were not trying to prove nothing. Your were just been "ironic" for thr fun of it. Take care |
| wstüssyb 15.07.2005 11:57 |
Normally I never would say something like this but... What I find lame is the constant attacks on Arlene, god that is like so 5 months ago, I think you guys can find some new hobbies? They are about as funny as the old Clinton jokes now. If you don't like what she post then don't read her topics, but to find every topic she makes and just post constant attacks is IMO childish. |
| good_old_fashioned_loverboy1986 15.07.2005 12:08 |
Completly agree with you with the fact no one should be purposely offensive to anyone else on this site especially as it is to strangers in some cases. However, in which I say this with upmost respect with Arlene whom I actually find to be interesting mostly, to correct an incorrect use of a word or term is not a bad thing. In fact I imagine that in some cases this was due to there not being really a new stance that one could take on the subject and discuss. I am equally sure that others did it purely to be malicious. So correction done in a positive sense will aid further use of the term by the person. Thank you for your time. |
| Lisser 15.07.2005 12:59 |
I drive a Nissan Altima |
| Lester Burnham 15.07.2005 13:02 |
Lisser wrote: I drive a Nissan AltimaI was going to buy one of those (a 1998 model) last year but the dealership wouldn't let me. Apparently, you need to put money down, have a cosigner, or have a credit card - as well as a regular job - in order to get a car nowadays. HOW WAS I SUPPOSED TO KNOW THAT!!! |
| Erin 15.07.2005 14:25 |
Lester Burnham wrote:That's what happens when you are in your early twenties.. Hit the late twenties, like myself, and they ease up! ;-)Lisser wrote: I drive a Nissan AltimaI was going to buy one of those (a 1998 model) last year but the dealership wouldn't let me. Apparently, you need to put money down, have a cosigner, or have a credit card - as well as a regular job - in order to get a car nowadays. HOW WAS I SUPPOSED TO KNOW THAT!!! |