QueenZone discussion #531652
queen and drugs
| liam 10.05.2005 08:20 |
We all no Freddie Mercury was a heavy Cocaine user and a chain smoker. i no john deacon smoked u can see him on the making of one vision of GH2. but did brian or roger smoke and did john brian or roger use cocoain or other drugs. |
| Serry... 10.05.2005 08:23 |
Brian didn't (drugs, smoke), as he wrote recently in his soapbox. Roger smoked. |
| NOTWMEDDLE 10.05.2005 14:58 |
I heard Roger quit smoking before the Magic Tour started. Brian did not ever smoke or do drugs. No wonder Brian would not run out of breath during his solo spots, especially Milton Keynes, where he would run all over the place. |
| Last Cyborg 10.05.2005 15:22 |
I think it says in "As It Began" that the only one not to participate in smoking in the early days was Freddie (though presumably Brian only briefly tried it before becoming set against it, as he hates smoking now). John and Roger definitley smoked during the 80s, dunno if they've stopped now or not. I'm pretty sure I've seen a photo of John smoking in the 90s. Freddie eventually picked up the habit of smoking from "people around him" (the gay scene?) in the mid 80s (maybe when he knew he had HIV/AIDS and thought what the hell?) As for drugs, everyone says Freddie did cocaine, though I don't know what their source of information is. Brian hasn't done any drugs. John is probably too sensible to do drugs (though maybe not seeing as he smoked). Roger tried canabis once and couldn't handle it, so if he couldn't handle canabis, the 14 year old girl's drug of choice, it's unlikely he did anything harder, despite his supposed bad boy image. |
| Scott_Mercury 10.05.2005 15:55 |
Last Cyborg- What year were you born?? 1986?? Freddie started smoking in late 1979. Roger & John already smoked. I have seen old "Smile" circa 1969, photos of Roger and Tim Staffel smoking. Freddie did pick up smoking in New York gay bars... as just about everyone was a social smoker. Freddie was a cocaine dabbler... but again, had it very much under control... As Jim Hutton put it: "Fred could spend $20,000 on cocaine in a weekend if there was a big event".... then, it may be 10-15 months before he would have another snort." It should be noted... in Jim Hutton's book "Mercury and Me".... he says that the whole day, leading up to Queen time to go on at live Aid in 1985.. Jim says that "Freddie had been hitting the cocaine hard all day".... "after the show, I know he and Paul McCartney purchased a shitload of the stuff, and split the cost". Interesting fact... Live AID is considered to be one of the best live performances by anyone..anywhere. |
| Oberon 11.05.2005 07:46 |
Scott_Mercury wrote: It should be noted... in Jim Hutton's book "Mercury and Me".... he says that the whole day, leading up to Queen time to go on at live Aid in 1985.. Jim says that "Freddie had been hitting the cocaine hard all day".... "after the show, I know he and Paul McCartney purchased a shitload of the stuff, and split the cost". Interesting fact... Live AID is considered to be one of the best live performances by anyone..anywhere.Interesting... I wouldn't have thought Macca would've done cocaine. The Beatles did Spliffs and LSD, but somehow I never imagined Macca doing coke. |
| doremi 11.05.2005 10:43 |
Oberon wrote:My mouth dropped open when I read Paul's exclusive Cover Story Interview in Uncut few months ago where he came right out and said he tried Heroin..only once...but I still can't get over that. Not Macca. But out of his own mouth. In fact, his statement wound up making all the news wire servies, AP, UPI, the USA papers right after that.Scott_Mercury wrote: It should be noted... in Jim Hutton's book "Mercury and Me".... he says that the whole day, leading up to Queen time to go on at live Aid in 1985.. Jim says that "Freddie had been hitting the cocaine hard all day".... "after the show, I know he and Paul McCartney purchased a shitload of the stuff, and split the cost". Interesting fact... Live AID is considered to be one of the best live performances by anyone..anywhere.Interesting... I wouldn't have thought Macca would've done cocaine. The Beatles did Spliffs and LSD, but somehow I never imagined Macca doing coke. |
| iGSM 11.05.2005 10:59 |
Well he said wasn't his bag...John/George were the coke/heroin fiends. |
| JDL2nd 11.05.2005 13:52 |
Roger and John smoked. Roger quit smoking in 1985 / 1986. Brian did not smoke or use drugs. Freddie began smoking in 1979. They had some famous parties. I've read and seen in documentaries about this parties that there were dwarfs with platters coke, so it's possible that they used it. Freddie used it, Roger couldn't handle canabis some it's unlikely that he used it. Brian is too soft and too wise to use it. I don't know if John used it. I always think he isn't as sensible as everyone always thinks. It's possible gheghe... but I wasn't there ... what a pity !! |
| Ellie79 11.05.2005 14:57 |
As far as I know,Freddie,John and roger were all smokers,Roger seemed to be the heaviest of them,but I don't think they were properly addicted to any drugs...I mean,they seemed too"healthy"to be like that...Btw, read Roger quit smoking around 1987/88,for his former partner illness.. |
| Knute 11.05.2005 16:34 |
EVERYONE did blow in the 70's Everybody in hollywood did and everybody in the music biz did. Or at least damn near everybody. There wasn't nearly the stigma associated with drug use like there is now. Thanks Nancy Reagan you cunt! LOL! And the 70's was the ME decade. Debauchery and over-indulgence were as commonplace as polyester suits. It's too bad I was a little rug rat during the 70's or else I would've had a blast. |
| Gordie Howe 11.05.2005 16:38 |
Frog wrote:Yeah there were. I saw it too. I forgot which one it was though but I do remeber seeing it.JDL2nd wrote: I've read and seen in documentaries about this parties that there were dwarfs with platters coke,All the documentaries I see, say there were no dwarfs with cocaine |
| GiantSpider 11.05.2005 16:39 |
Didn't Freddie stop smoking when he found out he had AIDS? |
| doremi 11.05.2005 19:31 |
The dwarves were hired by Freddie & Queen's Special Los Angeles PR firm who were instructed to find...colorful street characters for the New Orleans "Jazz" launch party, for which all the music executives from BOTH Queen's UK record label, EMI/Parlophone, and Queen's then USA record label, Elektra, as well as friends and press were invited. Freddie had Bolivian cocaine flown in and tested it's er...quality himself. It was served in silver trays strapped to the heads of dwarves paid to walk around to all the guests. The party was held Halloween somebody help me here...1978? I think, correct me on the year if I am wrong. |
| Scirocco1977 12.05.2005 04:50 |
Frog wrote:The last picture I know of Freddie with a cigarette is a shoot for the BReakthru video, which was in 1989.GiantSpider wrote: Didn't Freddie stop smoking when he found out he had AIDS?There's a photo of him in 1990 or 91 with him smoking. Later photos did come up with Freddie smoking, but eventually, it was clear that it was never his cigarette (like in the Days of our lives -shoot). He did stop smoking when his therapy began. That's what Brian said, anyway. |
| Scirocco1977 12.05.2005 04:52 |
And just because Roger did not like Marijuhana does not necessarily mean he did not try coke... that's ridiculous. What has one thing to do with another? |
| Fairy 12.05.2005 06:47 |
OK we all know Freddie did Cocaine, but where do you guys think his energy came from? More from the cocaine or from himself? As for me, I think it came 99.9% from his inner self... Fairy |
| Fairy 12.05.2005 09:00 |
Not so funny :-( |
| Ellie79 12.05.2005 12:31 |
Scirocco1977 wrote: And just because Roger did not like Marijuhana does not necessarily mean he did not try coke... that's ridiculous. What has one thing to do with another?I think they wouldn't have been really addicted,but they should have tried snorting coke sometimes...Honestly Brian and John doesn't seem to me people who did that,I'd be more sure of Freddie and Roger,but,anyway,we don't know,they could have tried everything or nothing..who knows?:) |
| doremi 12.05.2005 13:07 |
I REALLY am wondering now why everyone says Freddie quit smoking when he found out he had AIDS.(which I believed..guess that's why they say don't believe everything you read) (and a picture is worth a thousand words). I have now seen tons of photos of Freddie right up to practically when he passed, all smoking/holding cigarettes... |
| doremi 12.05.2005 14:42 |
Frog wrote: People say he quit smoking when he got AIDS because it weakens the immune system when you smoke, and have AIDS. Didn't Peter Freestone say he was still smoking when Freddie met Montserrat in 1987?I never got to read Peter's book, but I think some of these er...confused stories are 1) Press & media inaccuracies. 2) IMPORTANT...some are INCORRECT but revised er fabricated stories from Brian, Roger, John, Friends, family, and YES FANS...because..it SOUNDS how do I put this...nicer...to portray somone in a good light that didn't make mistakes or learned from them. Even the fans here say well Freddie took better care of himself after he knew he had AIDS. Or he had a BETTER, STRONGER voice on Innuendo, all because he quit smoking. From what I have SEEN in photos, Freddie smoked right up until the end. If he had a BETTER, STRONGER voice on Innuendo, that's becuase he was growing older for one and sometimes a person's natural voice becomes fuller and richer as they get older, plus he matured as a professional singer, and intentionally sang with more interpretation, depth, range, phrasing, which is what a seasoned, pro singer...SHOULD do. As for taking better care of himself when he got AIDS. Maybe not. Maybe he figured he enjoyed smoking, it relaxed him, he wasn't a heavy smoker and it's not like it was going to kill him, he already had a terminal disease. I am an adult, and I can handle the TRUTH. I may not agree with or like that Freddie smoked. But IF that is the truth so be it. 3) Also, Scott_Mercury put on here that Freddie literally hoovered cocaine all day prior to performing at Live Aid. Then Scott goes on to say that Freddie gave the performance of his life,"do the math" so to speak, as if to say the coke made Freddie a better performer. Scott_Mercury wrote: Freddie was a cocaine dabbler... but again, had it very much under control... As Jim Hutton put it: "Fred could spend $20,000 on cocaine in a weekend if there was a big event".... then, it may be 10-15 months before he would have another snort." It should be noted... in Jim Hutton's book "Mercury and Me".... he says that the whole day, leading up to Queen time to go on at live Aid in 1985.. Jim says that "Freddie had been hitting the cocaine hard all day".... Interesting fact... Live AID is considered to be one of the best live performances by anyone..anywhere.A) The "Truth" if that is it, in this case, wreaked forever for me, my thoughts that Freddie was ON HIS OWN a magnificent perfomer who could put his OWN electric energy and dynamic charisma and power into his Live Aid perfromance. Now that image has been to me, permanently devestated and ruined in that I feel that Freddie's performance was NOT him, it was the coke. And if that is the truth, (per Scott) I can handle it, but it reeks and then that is NOT in my opinion a great performance from Freddie. It's an enhanced performance from drugs that he could not do or feared he could not do or was incapable of doing ON HIS OWN. B) That's like all the talk of all the athletes in pro baseball in the USA taking steroids and its news...is SHATTERING the image of heroes and role models to children (and adults too) who idolize and love pro baseball in the USA. It's not that these baseball players are Great athletes at all. It's the performance enhancing drugs...steroids..that allows them to do superhuman great work in baseball. It sucks and is ruining the image of baseball and athletes. In fact attendence this year at USA games is the worst ever, and most fans say because they are disgusted, disillusioned that most of pro baseball players are all on steroids. C) If Freddie did 10 tons of cocaine the day of Live Aid..so be it, BUT.........I thought it was INCREDIBLY irresponsible of Scott_Mercury to say and Crow on as if to sa |
| doremi 12.05.2005 16:47 |
Frog wrote: Freddie didn't always have it under control as Freddie suffered some seizure type fits in 1985 because of the drug.My point exactly. BTW, if a person uses drugs AT ALL..how is that "Under control". If you need or want to "enhance" yourself UNNATURALLY, if you can't get through a day or life or handle emotions or need a "fix"...there's NO SUCH THING with any drug use as "under control". Anybody who uses drugs and says that is in denial, and rationalyzing their use, period. |
| doremi 12.05.2005 18:27 |
Scott, please read my HUGE post above... |
| jcrawford79 12.05.2005 19:52 |
Not argue, but to respectfully disagree...not everyone who uses drugs uses them to "get through their day." It is an incorrect assumption to say that anyone who uses drugs "has a problem." Some drug users have a problem and others don't. This philosophy is relatively new and is primarily due to the "drug war" in the US. In centuries past, this has not been the case. Additionally, the labeling of a substance as a drug is entirely arbitrary...based simply on legislation. Many people use substances recreationally and are not addicted and rarely use them...only on certain occasions. By the way, I don't use drugs and I don't advocate their use. I just think that this is an unfair judgement to be placed on someone. |
| written_in_the_stars 12.05.2005 20:30 |
Holland!!! wrote: His real energy came out of his dick, you know, that's why got aids! LOL!Completely pointless. Not funny at all. Just shut the fuck up. |
| flash00. 12.05.2005 22:03 |
what about the heavy nose bleeds he had all the time due to all the coke and that was all thru his illness!! also freddie was famous for running off back stage between songs for a line of coke, he also used to hit the stage pissed as a fart half the time checkout the tony hadley story when he got on stage with freddie totaly drunk, freddie's part trick was downing a full bottle of vodka in one!!! ouch |
| Scott_Mercury 12.05.2005 23:36 |
I certainly wasn't promoting cocaine use. I think drugs of any kind are for losers... I have never touched a drug, or cigarette for that matter... and I wouldn't for money. I agree with American speaker Zig Ziglar who says "if we could end the smoking problem, we would end the drug problem". Ziglar has noted a Harvard research done in 1996 that 95.6% of people who have been in rehab in the United States for drug use.... checked the "YES" box that they were a tobacco smoker. Arlene... I wasn't saying that Freddie gave the performance of his life because of cocaine... I'm saying he did in spite of it. I don't like to sit around and think of Freddie as a gay, bed hopping drug user..... although some would argue thats what he was. I like to think that was just one side of him, and the real Fred had more class than that. |
| egret 13.05.2005 03:28 |
Hey, there are classy gay bed hopping drug users and then there are tacky ones. Let's not judge people. Arlene, of course Freddie's performance was his own. If the performance came from the drugs, then every junkie out there would be Billie Holiday, every cokehead would be Freddie-esque. Sadly, that is not the case. Visit any karaoke bar full of drunks and compare. --Egret |
| iGSM 13.05.2005 05:42 |
< heh. |
| Sonja 15.05.2005 05:15 |
I tend to think that the greatest artists of all time have brought out their best stuff under the influence of drugs... Drugs seem to increase the creativity..I don't know. That's just what I've noticed. |
| moonie 15.05.2005 07:27 |
I don't think you will find many successful musicians from the 70's or 80's who have not experimented with drugs.Brian says he's never tried drugs and I see no reason to disbelieve him,but he is an exception to the rule. Drugs(especially coke)are very easily available within music biz circles and those were days of excess and loadsamoney. |
| Hank H. 15.05.2005 08:11 |
"I don't like to sit around and think of Freddie as a gay, bed hopping drug user..... although some would argue thats what he was. I like to think that was just one side of him, and the real Fred had more class than that. " Because gods may neither be gay, bed hopping nor drug users, right? What a disgusting attitude you show. And what is so difficult about accepting reality? |
| Scott_Mercury 15.05.2005 10:44 |
Hank H wrote: Because gods may neither be gay, bed hopping nor drug users, right? What a disgusting attitude you show. And what is so difficult about accepting reality? _____________________________________________________ Who was talking about a god?? I was referring to Freddie Mercury. One of the greatest talents music has ever seen...and a class act of a person. A god?? I think not. Freddie himself with snicker at how stupid that observation is. Disgusting attitude?? Well, idiot, I don't think that bed hopping and drug use are virtues to be proud of. Would you be ok if your child was a bed hopping, drug user??? Or would you prefer a well rounded child not addicted to drugs?? Dumb question huh?? There seems to be alot of those lately. |
| Hank H. 15.05.2005 11:30 |
"Who was talking about a god?? I was referring to Freddie Mercury. One of the greatest talents music has ever seen...and a class act of a person." Class act apart from being a gay, bed-hopping drug-user, which is luckily easy to suppress for you. But of course, that was not the real Freddie Mercury, whom you obviously know better than he knew himself. And about the "greatest talents music has ever seen"... maybe someone teaches you about those in another lesson. "Freddie himself with snicker at how stupid that observation is." Observation? I only observe a bad reply here. "Disgusting attitude?? Well, idiot, I don't think that bed hopping and drug use are virtues to be proud of." It depends. Freddie seemed to be pretty proud of it. And what about your aversion for the thought of Freddie being gay? I was mainly referring to that, but you seem to have a problem to explain your really disgusting attitude, but prefer calling me an idiot instead. Telling statement, that is. "Would you be ok if your child was a bed hopping, drug user???" Was Freddie a bed hopping, drug using child? We're talking about grown-ups (even if you are not talking like a grown-up). "There seems to be alot of those lately." And even more since you came here. |
| Hank H. 15.05.2005 11:31 |
double post - for more emphasis :) |
| Mariam 16.05.2005 06:07 |
Freddie wasn't cocaine user. It's stupid lie. link The real story of Freddie Mercury chapter 4 Even Brian May and one Freddie's cousines confirmed that he bnever used drugs Hutton, Freesnone, Gabbachini ets must be sent to prison for aspersion |
| onevsion 16.05.2005 06:20 |
Holland!!! wrote: His real energy came out of his dick, you know, that's why got aids! LOL!Shut the fuck up tosser! |
| doremi 16.05.2005 12:35 |
Scott_Mercury wrote: Hank H wrote: Because gods may neither be gay, bed hopping nor drug users, right? What a disgusting attitude you show. And what is so difficult about accepting reality? _____________________________________________________ Who was talking about a god?? I was referring to Freddie Mercury. One of the greatest talents music has ever seen...and a class act of a person. A god?? I think not. Freddie himself with snicker at how stupid that observation is. Disgusting attitude?? Well, idiot, I don't think that bed hopping and drug use are virtues to be proud of. Would you be ok if your child was a bed hopping, drug user??? Or would you prefer a well rounded child not addicted to drugs?? Dumb question huh?? There seems to be alot of those lately.Scott..thanks for saying a RESPONSIBLE ( I'm not being sarcastic..I am very proud of this statement of yours), statement and sending the CORRECT/Good message. I don't like and it very much distresses me that Freddie DID do irresponsible things, drugs, promiscuous, unprotected, unsafe sex... ....but I feel that as a music artist/talent and HOW he behaved and TREATED his friends, colleagues, family..he was a VERY good responsible person and indeed a top CLASS ACT. If only Freddie had followed this in the way he treated...himself, he might still be alive today. His self destructive personal behavior to himself well it just disaapoints and saddens me even if I'm not being judemental...because that very personal self destructive behavior..had Freddie treated HIMSELF as the same class act he gave to OTHER people, he would probably not have gotten AIDS, etc, and still be with us today. |
| pma 16.05.2005 13:08 |
Mariam wrote: Freddie wasn't cocaine user. It's stupid lie. link The real story of Freddie Mercury chapter 4 Even Brian May and one Freddie's cousines confirmed that he bnever used drugs Hutton, Freesnone, Gabbachini ets must be sent to prison for aspersionLOL, yeah and according to that "book" titled amusingly enough "real story" of FM he wasn't gay either nor ever even visited a gay bar in his life (yet held his bday party in one and shot a video at the same time there.. Good research) blah blah blah homophobic bullcrap blah. I hear Lidl is selling lives this week, buy one. If there's no Lidl in town, order from Amazon. |
| Peta 16.05.2005 14:24 |
I am proud of Brian that he didn´t smoke and he didn´t use drugs. Roger doesn´t smoke from 1994. |
| Knute 16.05.2005 14:48 |
Look....95% of all people have a deep dark secret that seems like it would kill that person if anyone ever found out. They call it skeletons in the closet. I'm sure every member of Queen had them. Brian included. |
| doremi 16.05.2005 15:03 |
Knute wrote: Look....95% of all people have a deep dark secret that seems like it would kill that person if anyone ever found out. They call it skeletons in the closet. I'm sure every member of Queen had them. Brian included.Much agreed. For Brian, via his website, I think he has "revised" his own history with Queen somewhat, not necessarily because he doesn't want to take responsibility, but becuase it's like a matter of honor with him, that people think he was never irresponsible, and that he always did the right thing, that he never made mistakes. While I applaud his feelings which I think at this age in his life are based on his hindsight and being sorry for anything he may feel he did wrong...there is nothing wrong with admitting wrongs done,...as long as he doesn't do them anymore and learned from them and he could then sort of be a role model by exmaple. I would appreciate that more. But I do feel that Brian tries too hard to portray this PERFECT person that NEVER did or does anything wrong, EVER, whether its Sun City, drugs, or the New debacle with the tour playing at God Awful Wembley. He is not a saint and he rants worse than the New Pope in his own defense. If he would just admit he makes mistakes like everyone else and then say, "Hey I made a mistake. But I learned from that. I won't do it again and I'm sorry." No big deal, ya now. |
| Knute 16.05.2005 15:30 |
Arlene R. Weiss wrote:I disagree. I don't believe he owes any sort of acquiesces. He is just expressing his thoughts and beliefs like you or I do. Most celebrities won't give you even that.Knute wrote: Look....95% of all people have a deep dark secret that seems like it would kill that person if anyone ever found out. They call it skeletons in the closet. I'm sure every member of Queen had them. Brian included.Much agreed. For Brian, via his website, I think he has "revised" his own history with Queen somewhat, not necessarily because he doesn't want to take responsibility, but becuase it's like a matter of honor with him, that people think he was never irresponsible, and that he always did the right thing, that he never made mistakes. While I applaud his feelings which I think at this age in his life are based on his hindsight and being sorry for anything he may feel he did wrong...there is nothing wrong with admitting wrongs done,...as long as he doesn't do them anymore and learned from them and he could then sort of be a role model by exmaple. I would appreciate that more. But I do feel that Brian tries too hard to portray this PERFECT person that NEVER did or does anything wrong, EVER, whether its Sun City, drugs, or the New debacle with the tour playing at God Awful Wembley. He is not a saint and he rants worse than the New Pope in his own defense. If he would just admit he makes mistakes like everyone else and then say, "Hey I made a mistake. But I learned from that. I won't do it again and I'm sorry." No big deal, ya now. |
| dimcyril 18.05.2005 09:53 |
frddie said in a 1980 nqueen fan club letter that he had started smoking, so probably he meant 1979/ 1980. according to jim hutton he gave up during the innuendo sessions roger quit smoking before the magic tour brian never smoked the only pictures of john smoking that i have seen are from the 1980s. did he start around the same time as freddie? doesn't it say in as it began that freddie used to make cannabis cakes and fed them to the police one night? roger not somking dope doesn't mean that he didn't do coke. finally george harrison wasn't a user of heroin john lennon did heroin for a while in 1969, paul mccartney tried it once or maybe twice i can't imagine any members of queen doing heroin. it didn't seem like their style |
| Soviet girl 19.05.2005 13:15 |
Hey, will anybody shut that asshole Holland up? Holland, I know what you have to do - write to Brian's soapbox - let him know what kind of Queen fans exist - he will be glad. What are you doing here, go to your favourite gay-sites and enjoy. LEAVE US AND FREDDIE ALONE - OK? Damn bastard!!! Check out your brains if everything's all right there. |
| RockMySock 19.05.2005 17:42 |
JDL2nd wrote: I've read and seen in documentaries about this parties that there were dwarfs with platters coke, so it's possible that they used it. Freddie used itused the dwarfs or the cocaine? or both... at the same time? :P :D |
| DarkQueen 20.05.2005 04:00 |
Soviet girl wrote: Hey, will anybody shut that asshole Holland up? Holland, I know what you have to do - write to Brian's soapbox - let him know what kind of Queen fans exist - he will be glad. What are you doing here, go to your favourite gay-sites and enjoy. LEAVE US AND FREDDIE ALONE - OK? Damn bastard!!! Check out your brains if everything's all right there.I'll deal to him... Holland!!! wrote: Soviet Girl, I'm not gay,Could've fooled me... that was Freddie! I have nothing against gays, you know!.Once again, could've fooled me... But what I said in my last post, is (maybe hard to handle) the thruth. Things like this are mentioned in other people's posts on this forum as well!!! Bye!!! I'm sorry I offended you!God, I swear you're related to me... however distant... Knute wrote: Look....95% of all people have a deep dark secret that seems like it would kill that person if anyone ever found out.And 45% of all statistics are made up on the spot. Knute wrote: EVERYONE did blow in the 70's Everybody in hollywood did and everybody in the music biz did. Or at least damn near everybody. There wasn't nearly the stigma associated with drug use like there is now. Thanks Nancy Reagan you cunt! LOL! And the 70's was the ME decade. Debauchery and over-indulgence were as commonplace as polyester suits. It's too bad I was a little rug rat during the 70's or else I would've had a blast.Amen to that... Holland!!! wrote: His real energy came out of his dick, you know, that's why got aids! LOL!You're just one of the pricks who joins forums and tries to piss everyone off to see if you can set the fucking world record for getting nuked from a forum aren't you? You MUST be related to my Dad, or at least to someone in his family... Damn, I think I'm gonna have a lot of fun with you... :) |
| DarkQueen 21.05.2005 07:50 |
Holland!!! wrote: Oh no DarkQueen I'm just telling some facts!Hence the reason I could swear you're related to me. |
| DarkQueen 21.05.2005 19:04 |
Holland!!! wrote: How do you mean that then? :)'Cos you write some real horrible crap on the net and you don't give a shit who it offends but in fact you're just 'telling the facts'. My Dad does the exact same thing. Plus, you're dutch and apparently I've got dozens of cousins down your end that I've never met so you never know... |
| Mariam 23.05.2005 07:45 |
PMA, it was nightclub. Many famous gay man vizited this party - as Brian May, Reinhard Mack with his wife and children, Mary Austine, Joe Dare ets... By the way - many straight artists performed in gay clubs. But not Freddie... And if Freddie really was gay - the great examples of homophobic you can found in this forum, as Holland's poster - but not in this book. May be you really think that any sexuality can explain so many dirty words about great man - and, by the way, about dead man who cannot protect himself? But this topic about drugs, not sexuality. And it's lie. Nothing by words of some bastards, well known as Freddie's close friends. Freddie denied it in David Wigg's interviev. Brian denied it. One of Freddie's friends said that he hated grugs. His cousine said the same... I suprised that some of you can believe in any stupid gossips. Freddie used tones of coce (and stayed alive), Freddie used hungreds of boys? Cats? Dogs? Babyes? What happened with you, brothers and sisters? Holland was write in one thing - he only repeated that he heard any times, and on this forum too - and it looks like Queen fans really enjoy it. |
| Mariam 24.05.2005 04:34 |
Holland, you are not mad. Fun movement of Queen is so. Because behaviour as yours is quiet traditional for Queen fans. They are ready to believe in all about Freddie. Holland, stop your sully parody. |
| Wet Willie 24.05.2005 07:54 |
There is mention of Roger and Motley Crüe, in their book "The Dirt", that Tommy Lee was at a Russian restaurant in London (with his idol - RMT)and at the end of the dinner, came form the kitchen, some silver plateaux's with star-shaped cocaine lines. Tommy does not mention if RMT took some. |
| Fairy 24.05.2005 08:10 |
egret wrote: Arlene, of course Freddie's performance was his own. If the performance came from the drugs, then every junkie out there would be Billie Holiday, every cokehead would be Freddie-esque. Sadly, that is not the case. Visit any karaoke bar full of drunks and compare. |
| doremi 24.05.2005 10:57 |
Fairy wrote:egret wrote: Arlene, of course Freddie's performance was his own. If the performance came from the drugs, then every junkie out there would be Billie Holiday, every cokehead would be Freddie-esque. Sadly, that is not the case. Visit any karaoke bar full of drunks and compare. I couldn't have said it better. I totally agree. And I wouldn't be too harsh in judging Freddie's use of drugs. I think that's just part of the super star world. I don't think many of us would behave differently if we were thrown into that world. I did pot and got drunk so often at college and I was just a common girl! FairyFairy, while my world is no superstar world, in the early 1990s' I managed and booked 2 local bands. Well, when fans and other people trying to "get to tmeet the band" etc, know you are the manager, they openly offer you (in this case me) tons of favors. I had more crack, crank, coke, you name it offered to me for FREE than you can imagine, not to mention just free drinks from the bar/clubs owners, fans...& the bands still kidded me that the hardest thing I ever did...wwas Ocean Spray cranberry juice on the rocks (ice). |
| kdj2hot 25.05.2005 13:20 |
I always thought that Freddie was all "coked up" on the "Back Chat" video. |
| Fairy 25.05.2005 15:46 |
Hi Arlene, I agree with you on most of what you said. I actually wonder how all those stars can manage not to skip shows considering how fucked up they often are! Unlike you, I've always been fascinated by drugs, and I don't think I would have resisted trying it if I was surrounded by people who use it, especially if I had to keep going night after night, doing my shows, then attending parties after the concerts, etc. So I can understand Freddie very well! But I sure don't mean to say it is OK to take drugs. I'm certain you can be a great artist without it, and I'm convinced that 99.9 of Freddie's energy came from inside him. Like someone pointed out earlier, if coke was enough to make a person a star, than there would be so many people like Freddie in bars and the like! LOL Fairy |
| iGSM 26.05.2005 10:35 |
I think taking drugs is funny. Not myself. I've never touched the stuff but I still think it's funny seeing people go from how you know them to something beyond. My cousin smokes pot all the time and she goes from a reasonably serious creature to a laughing, loving sort of character. Great fun, I reckon. Of course then they turn violent and die. |
| doremi 26.05.2005 12:05 |
iGSM wrote: I think taking drugs is funny. Not myself. I've never touched the stuff but I still think it's funny seeing people go from how you know them to something beyond. My cousin smokes pot all the time and she goes from a reasonably serious creature to a laughing, loving sort of character. Great fun, I reckon. Of course then they turn violent and die.Everyone I've seen or know turns incoherent, violent, irrational, stupid, sick, all BAD. |
| kdj2hot 27.05.2005 01:03 |
coke does seem to bring out the best in people if you can moderate it and not get to the point of addiction. I'm for real, Freddie at Live AID proves that. It gives you energy. Sugar gives you ebergy too but it makes you fat. coke is a lot better fopr your figure. |
| My Best Friend 04.06.2005 09:31 |
ARLENE, You seem very intelligent but you have no experience with drugs and should refrain from talking about them. Just becasue they were offered to you, does not mean you know about them or are qualified. |
| doremi 04.06.2005 11:12 |
My Best Friend wrote: ARLENE, You seem very intelligent but you have no experience with drugs and should refrain from talking about them. Just becasue they were offered to you, does not mean you know about them or are qualified."I also have second hand been subjected to the fumes (like smoke from cigarettes), but from people smoking everything from crack to weed...and I literally weeze, vomit and almost pass out." Scuse me ..I am QUITE qualified, I do know about them....and NOT of my own free will. ....I have been exposed very often to 2nd hand fumes/smoke from...weed, crack, etc. which if you read my earlier posts I said. See above. And those 2nd hand drugs smoke & fumes (far worse than 2nd hand cigarrette smoke, which I also am always exposed to against my will and get ill from)) have made me incoherent, nauseus, vomit, stomach pains, head pains, burn my eyes/ears/throat/nose, horrible skin rashes, nosebleeds.....and I get VIOLENTLY ill, and incoherent. So YES I DO KNOW... ..and I hate the stuff. That's something else, if some dumbass wants to do drugs...that's their business. But do NOT smoke it around people who don't do drugs...because it DIRECTLY exposes and ENDANGERS people who inhale it 2nd hand. Keep it to yourself and snort or pop the damn crap...but keep it to yourself. You..sound just like the idiots who expose me to 2nd hand drug smoke..as well as 2nd hand cigarette smoke...rationalizing... ....and not having a CLUE or giving a damn that you ARE making people who don't do drugs who are exposed to the smoke of your drugs, high and ill...against their will.... |
| My Best Friend 04.06.2005 23:58 |
I apologize Arlene if I upset you. My experience has been different than yours, thats all. Keep up the good posts. |
| carboengine 05.06.2005 01:48 |
I don't understand how performers can function on stage using drugs especially Freddie who would be running up and down stairs, doing his dance moves all over the stage, not tripping over the microphone cord, being alert enough to play the piano whether softly or with force, zipping around on stage with bright lights, flashing lights, no lights. Queen's concerts involved hundreds of people what with technicians and others. The financial responsibility must be enornous to deliver a top-rate show. Peter Freestone said on a taped interview that you couldn't keep up during a tour if you didn't use something. So, if Freddie was using before and during performances, I've never read what the other three band members thought about it. Were they nervous he would screw things up? Does anyone know? |
| Blue73 06.06.2005 08:48 |
According the (fabulous) autobiography of Motley Crue "The Dirt", Nikki & Tommy once had a dinner in London organised by Roger with Rick Nielson & Robin Zander of Cheap Trick. After dinner the waiters filed in with large silver trays, one for each person in attendance and each containg 'rock star sized lines of cocaine' which they all proceeded to snort. |