| doremi 05.05.2005 15:19 |
Bob Geldof is planning a benefit concert called Live Eight. According to this press release, he is holding it at Hyde Park...and wanted to schedule it for July 8, which of course we know is already booked for Queen+Paul Rodgers & that is in this press release, so he and the organizers are trying to work something out. I hope things work out ok for Geldof...better yet, if Geldof books another date,... ...maybe he could ask Queen+Paul Rodgers to be on the bill, (like Queen was on the bill at Live Aid), which I think Brian & Roger & Paul Rodgers would probably be happy to do. quote " It's believed the preferred show date for "Live Eight" was July 8, while the G8 summit (July 6-8) is taking place at Scotland's Gleneagles Hotel, but Queen + Paul Rodgers plays Hyde Park that day ..." link |
| wstüssyb 05.05.2005 15:23 |
Im not going, so it dont effect me =) |
| doremi 05.05.2005 15:24 |
wstüssyb wrote: Im not going, so it dont effect me =)To which...Queen+Paul Rodgers or Live Eight? |
| Leppar 05.05.2005 15:25 |
Does Bob Geldof ever quit? Trying to boost his ego up, even though he wasn't that good an artist. |
| doremi 05.05.2005 15:28 |
Leppar wrote: Does Bob Geldof ever quit? Trying to boost his ego up, even though he wasn't that good an artist.But...look who is already on the bill. "Industry rumours suggest both The Rolling Stones and U2 could play July 3 shows in the park under the banner of "Live Eight," the name being an amalgamation of Live Aid and G8." And I'm sure Brian & Roger, & Paul Rodgers would be thrilled to participate as Queen did at Live Aid..and didn't it boost Queen's career then? It would be GREAT for Queen+Paul Rodgers....to play this, especially if top dogs like U2 & the Rolling Stones are already on the bill. |
| Leppar 05.05.2005 15:32 |
Top dogs? U2? hahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahaha. I've seen pigeons rock harder that U2. And better. Actually, that's being a bit harsh - the rest of U2 are ok but Bono? Has there ever been a more arrogant person? Grrrrrrrrrr if your work is good then yes praise it a little - but saying your own work is "Sacred" really is living up your own ass. Bah, U2 have never been legends, and never will be legends. They are nothing more than an amatuer pop band. There, rant over. |
| doremi 05.05.2005 15:36 |
The point I was trying to make, is it would be GREAT if Geldof & promoter Harvey Goldsmith (Goldsmith booked Queen's Live At Wembley Stadium as well as Live Aid)...asked Queen+Paul Rodgers to be ON THE BILL. It would be great for them, boost their profile at this important time with the Queen+Paul Rodgers Tour, and they would help a good cause. You know that Brian, Roger & Paul Rodgers would probably be more than happy to participate. |
| Leppar 05.05.2005 15:41 |
Yeah, but with Bob Geldof - it ia always about the money for him. He doesn't really care about the suffering in third world countries. That said, Queen are already getting good publicity but i'm sure they will come to the right conclusion - they always do. God bless Bri and Rog. |
| doremi 05.05.2005 15:45 |
Leppar wrote: Yeah, but with Bob Geldof - it ia always about the money for him. He doesn't really care about the suffering in third world countries. That said, Queen are already getting good publicity but i'm sure they will come to the right conclusion - they always do. God bless Bri and Rog.Geldof DOES care..where in the daylight did you get that idea from? Geldof does NOT keep the money from these charity events. It is ALL donated to charity and those suffering in third world nations. He and Bono have BOTH together met with Pope John Paul, Several world leaders, and always donate 100% of all funds from any benefit events, concerts, recordings thay do to third world countries, for food, medical care, shelter. I have NEVER heard that, ever. Sorry, but Geldof has done marvelous things for those less fortunate. |
| Leppar 05.05.2005 15:51 |
Bono and Bob Geldof are attention seekers. They do NOT care, all they are interested in is selling their music and as they know it is average (At best) they resort to 'good' deeds to make themselves look good. Bono and Geldof both think they are Jesus, not to mention their egos the size of the planet. Greedy, self centered and careless - apt description of Bono and Bob. |
| doremi 05.05.2005 15:54 |
Leppar wrote: Bono and Bob Geldof are attention seekers. They do NOT care, all they are interested in is selling their music and as they know it is average (At best) they resort to 'good' deeds to make themselves look good. Bono and Geldof both think they are Jesus, not to mention their egos the size of the planet. Greedy, self centered and careless - apt description of Bono and Bob.That's YOUR opinion....not mine. |
| Leppar 05.05.2005 15:56 |
That's not my, or your, opinion - it is FACT. |
| Leppar 05.05.2005 16:03 |
Stop defending the indefensible. He just likes to be in the public eye all the time - even when no one wants to see him. Why else would he keep 'selling' out to papers, magazines etc? Why doesn't he go over there himself and do some work - oh, thats right he gets people 'below' him to do it. Hardly a hero is he? Exactly. |
| Leppar 05.05.2005 16:06 |
See my above post. If he really wants to help then why doesn't he donate some of his money - he has more than enough for 10 lifetimes, he doesn't need all of it. Thats right, he wants to boost his ego without paying a penny. Hardly a hero. |
| doremi 05.05.2005 16:20 |
Leppar wrote: Stop defending the indefensible. He just likes to be in the public eye all the time - even when no one wants to see him. Why else would he keep 'selling' out to papers, magazines etc? Why doesn't he go over there himself and do some work - oh, thats right he gets people 'below' him to do it. Hardly a hero is he? Exactly.Apparently...you don't CHECK your facts. Geldof just got back from Africa, is getting ready to go over there again and has spent the last 20 years making NUMEROUS trips to the areas in Africa hardest hit by Famine and Aids. Areas with disease, plague, no running water..and he risks his life going to these areas, with tribal guides. I have SEEN him on these trips. In 1995, on the 10th anniversary of Live Aid, I saw his documentary on VH1, where he was IN Africa, meeting with starving masses and also meeting with people...who were NOW alive, because of the money that originally brought food and relief from 1985's Live Aid and Band Aid benefits, and the subsequent Band Aid/Live Aid Trust. Don't you do your homework? He is over in Africa half a dozen times every year for the last 20 years..in between his own recording. Geldof DOES care..where in the daylight did you get that idea from that he keeps any of the money from the charity events and recordings he organizes? Geldof does NOT keep ANY of the money from these charity events. It is ALL donated to charity and those suffering in third world nations. He and Bono have BOTH together met with Pope John Paul, Several world leaders, and always donate 100% of all funds from any benefit events, concerts, recordings thay do to third world countries, for food, medical care, shelter. I have NEVER heard that, ever. Sorry, but Geldof has done marvelous things for those less fortunate. Also....excuse me...but whether you want to admit it or not, I'm glad that Queen stepped up to the plate and agreed to do Live Aid..but when you jabber about how Geldof's career benefitted from Live Aid and his charity work, whether or not he does it for the right and selfless reasons... ...(which I still think he does cuz I sure as hell wouldn't want to spend half of my life traveling to third world war torn nations ridden with plague, filth, ebola, and cholera, that I could easily catch and die from myself...just to resucitate my music career)... ....anyways..my point is that no other music artist benefitted More from Live Aid...than...Queen. Prior to Live Aid, Queen was struggling. The Works album had just done ok, they were trying to do damage control from Sun City, they were in their mid to late 30's competing with a new generation of 20 somethings of young glamorous MTV groomed music stars, and they were all doing solo records with inner tensions in the band and rumored talk of Queen splitting up. Then...lo and behold, Queen gets asked to do Live Aid...they see their chance...they rehearse their asses off for a whole week at the Shaw Theater. Queen kicks ass for an International 1 Billion strong worldwide audience watching and listening to the satellite global broadcast and receives unanimous, universal critical and commercial acclaim as the band that stole the show. Then Queen saw what was their before, sagging career, literally skyrocket quantum leap through the stratosphere after they did Live Aid. The International press fell all over Queen (and actually all of the press said Wonderful things about Queen...something the press normally does NOT do and you know that the press normally rags on Queen), following Live Aid. Queen were happy to do and reep the publicity. The band felt re-energized and enthused with their music and one another. Queen rushed into the studio to do "One Vision" and AKOM, booked the Magic Tour (which had the 2 shows at Wembley Stadium...with Harvey Goldstein who had booked Live Aid). So who ALSO reeped the financial and career a |
| Leppar 05.05.2005 16:30 |
Real heroes don't need documentries to do their work. Most hereos go unnoticed. But what a surprise good ol' Bob likes to brag about what he has done. He will need a new cap soon for that even bigger head of his. |
| doremi 05.05.2005 16:47 |
Leppar wrote: Real heroes don't need documentries to do their work. Most hereos go unnoticed. But what a surprise good ol' Bob likes to brag about what he has done. He will need a new cap soon for that even bigger head of his.Scuse me again...but don't Brian & Roger regularly crow and herald about their work with Nelson Mandela? Brian regularly posts updates about he & Roger's work with the 46664 campaign on Brian's website and on the Queen website. That's called publicity dunderhead. If people don't know about 46664 and the many charity events, DVD's, downloads that Brian & Roger do on behalf of 46664 for AIDS....as the old saying goes..if you hold a show and nobody KNOWS about it..noone comes. Well Brian crows non stop on his website..for the RIGHT reasons, and also on queenonline, for the RIGHT reasons. So people will be aware of he and Roger's work on behalf of AIDS and 46664, and donate money, and spend money at the charity concerts, buying the DVD's, the downloads...so the money can go to help fight and find a cure for AIDS. |
| Leppar 05.05.2005 17:01 |
There is a subtle difference between spreading the word and just plain bragging. Sadly, Bob falls into the latter category. |
| doremi 05.05.2005 17:29 |
I also will admit that Geldof and Bono do come across as arrogant and braggarts...but again, excuse me...I may not always agree with their tactics, but...it works for them more than any other music artist doing charity work. Who else but Geldof cursing and yelling on Intenational TV "Give Us Your F*****G Money" at Live Aid, could have rounded up dozens of MUCH bigger ego ridden rock stars, told them to "park your egos at the door" and pull off an International concert held in 2 continents, simultaneously, for over 12 hours, with hundreds of technical crews, TV & Radio crews, music techs, stage hands, without a hitch, and never ONCE have you ever heard of any of those rock stars giving him, the promoters, or the cause of the day ANY crap. And to this day, all of the charity work that Geldof and Bono do, same thing, when they ask for other music artists to get involved, there is NO infighting, no squabbling, every one does their part for the cause at hand. Being Mr. Nice Polite Guy doesn't necessarily get you anywhere. I have said on other topics that I personally believe Geldof has one hell of a HUGE heart. He uses the outward facade of an arrogant SOB to keep people organized and get the job, the charity event, done. But I think he is a wonderful person. ....When was the last time you got off your soap box, stopped ranting about Geldof's and Bono's arrogance, and did some charity work of your own? And before you jump down MY throat buster...watch out. I have donated my services to many local causes from Senior Citizen Homes, to The American Cancer Society to AIDS, and in the early 90's when I managed and booked 2 local bands...I insisted they play charity benefit gigs, yes, for the cause. One was even for a battered women's shelter. One was also for The American Cancer Society. They griped and said they didn't want to do it. But I told them, showing a little selflessness, humility, and doing a good thing well that should be the only reason and for the right reason. So they did it. |
| john bodega 05.05.2005 22:33 |
None of you know anything about these people. Have you met them? Stop arguing, it's presumptuous and below decent people. Oh wait. I'm at Queenzone. |
| doremi 06.05.2005 11:11 |
Why don't we just back to the subject...which is...wouldn't it be great..if Geldof invited Brian, Roger, & Paul Rodgers to play Live 8? Jim Beach, Brian, Roger, Paul..hope you're out there....maybe they read QZ & I'm sure THEY DO care about this cause and would be thrilled to be a part of it. |
| Bobby_brown 06.05.2005 15:16 |
Point number one: When food arrives to starving people in Africa they don´t really care if it was sent by a person with honest feelings about it or not. The point is- LIVE AID SAVED MILLIONS OF LIVES, and instead of putting Bob Geldof down you should thank God for the food you have everyday. So, even if you don´t agree, at least don´t try to stop an event, that in the end will save lives. Point number two: If you say Live Aid was made to boost Bob Gueldof career, let me ask you- What career? One thing is for shore, if there was an artist that boosted their career with Live Aid that artist was QUEEN, Bowie, U2; etc. I never saw Bob Gueldof´s career any stronguer after Live Aid, in fact, his career as a singuer was over because people associates him with humanitarion causes. Point number Three: It seems to me that a lot of people are trying to make the Queen members something thei´re not. Let me explain: When compared to other artist or person, Queen ALLWAYS do the better thing! They just can´t be wrong. It´s like thei´re some kind of angels living among us- THE SINNERS!! Let me tell you something- Thei´re not perfect either, and if you wanna discuss charity i really don´t think that to put Queen against Bob Gueldof or U2 and say that Queen were the onlyones who really cares is a good thing to say. In my opinion they only do charity because Freddie died of AIDS, but what have they donne while Freddie was still in the business?- NOTHING. You can say that they played for Kamputcheia or donne LIVE AID, but that was the easiest thing. To go on stage and play it´s easy, but to guive up on your life to put something so monumental in action in an era before the internet or the cell phones, that is pure charity! Queen never used their name to put something like this in action before Freddie´s death, so what was the point of their success? This is a forum to discuss their music, but somehow people try to make them better humans than everyone else including ourselves, and i don´t think that´s fair bacause a lot of people work really hard at humanitary causes. We´re all humans with our bad things and our good things and as Roger Taylor once said: "I´m not better than the man next door". Take care |
| doremi 06.05.2005 16:24 |
Bobby_brown wrote: Point number one: When food arrives to starving people in Africa they don´t really care if it was sent by a person with honest feelings about it or not. The point is- LIVE AID SAVED MILLIONS OF LIVES, and instead of putting Bob Geldof down you should thank God for the food you have everyday. So, even if you don´t agree, at least don´t try to stop an event, that in the end will save lives. Point number two: If you say Live Aid was made to boost Bob Gueldof career, let me ask you- What career? One thing is for shore, if there was an artist that boosted their career with Live Aid that artist was QUEEN, Bowie, U2; etc. I never saw Bob Gueldof´s career any stronguer after Live Aid, in fact, his career as a singuer was over because people associates him with humanitarion causes. Point number Three: It seems to me that a lot of people are trying to make the Queen members something thei´re not. Let me explain: When compared to other artist or person, Queen ALLWAYS do the better thing! They just can´t be wrong. It´s like thei´re some kind of angels living among us- THE SINNERS!! Let me tell you something- Thei´re not perfect either, and if you wanna discuss charity i really don´t think that to put Queen against Bob Gueldof or U2 and say that Queen were the onlyones who really cares is a good thing to say. In my opinion they only do charity because Freddie died of AIDS, but what have they donne while Freddie was still in the business?- NOTHING. You can say that they played for Kamputcheia or donne LIVE AID, but that was the easiest thing. To go on stage and play it´s easy, but to guive up on your life to put something so monumental in action in an era before the internet or the cell phones, that is pure charity! Queen never used their name to put something like this in action before Freddie´s death, so what was the point of their success? This is a forum to discuss their music, but somehow people try to make them better humans than everyone else including ourselves, and i don´t think that´s fair bacause a lot of people work really hard at humanitary causes. We´re all humans with our bad things and our good things and as Roger Taylor once said: "I´m not better than the man next door". Take careThanks Bobby, I totally agree with everything you said. Read all of my posts, especially the one where I said about how Queen's career benefitted most from Live Aid, as you also said, and of course all the wonderful things I said about Geldof. And yes, I spoke about how just less than a year prior to Live Aid, Queen had done major damage to their career playing Sun City...and alot of people view Queen playing Live Aid, at least somewhat...as damage control. And, yes I agree, that they did not get actively involved with AIDS benefits, things like 46664 with Nelson Mandela, The Terrance Higgins Trust, The Mercury Pheonix Trust...til it hit home and one of their own...Freddie. THEN...they became actively involved with AIDS charities. One last note, I adore Queen with all of my heart for their music, and for the work they NOW do for charity...whatever their motives or agendas...perhaps due to Freddie's death from AIDS. But as heroes and humanitarians go...and alot of QZ rags on me for this...rag all the hell you F*n want..But Bob Geldof is MY hero above any celebrity that has worked his ever lovin' ass off for 20 years, again repeatedly going...in person... to war torn, third world countries ridden with filth, plague, famine, cholera, ebola, rats, no running water..risking his own life, to help people in these countries who have no food, no clean/safe water, no shelter, no proper medical care. He basically has not had much of a music career since The Boomtown Rats split, some solo albums here and there..which I have and LOVE...and whatever career Geldof ha |