| deleted user 16.04.2005 08:31 |
Has anyone heard the AUDIO version of Is This The World We Created? well i just listened to it and on the DVD it is fine, but on the audio half way through you hear LOUD AND CLEARLY, "still cant hear the radio mic on stage dave," like an announcement over the tannoy system, its a shame you hear that but apart from that its fine, anyone else noticed that? Your thoughts about Queen at Live Aid? |
| The Fairy King 16.04.2005 11:11 |
Yeah something went wrong during the broadcast when it aired live...the audio woz directly recorded from that broadcast. Pretty sure the dvd version doesn't have that mistake. |
| deleted user 16.04.2005 11:16 |
the dvd definatly doesnt, but the audio sounds fine until then, its weird, and you can definalty hear all the feeback during CLTCL, during the end guitar bits as the song is ending, long loud sqeeking! ooouuucccchh! |
| brENsKi 16.04.2005 15:51 |
but by far the best (and funniest, most apt) bit of Live Aid does not go to Queen step forward the WHO..... during My Generation, Roger Daltrey actually sings "why don't you all just f-f-f-ade....(and doesn't get the "away" bit of the line out before everything went off - i remember seeing this on the TV at the time and thinking it coulda been deliberate but funny nonetheless |
| deleted user 16.04.2005 15:55 |
lol, thanks for that but lets try to keep to Queen, any more comments on Queen at Live Aid, about technical problems of the day during there bit etc, your experiance of Queen during Live Aid for those who saw it! |
| John S Stuart 16.04.2005 16:50 |
The short answer is that they come from seperate sources. The adulterated feed you refer to was for a dedicated Radio feed, which picked up stray radio operated signals. The bootlegs which contain this error, were therefore taken from the radio source. The video/audio feed was seperate and different (umbilical) - and that is why the radio microphone was not picked up in either the original television broadcast or the subsequent DVD release. |
| deleted user 16.04.2005 17:37 |
wow thanks for the knowhow, anything else? |
| Fireplace 16.04.2005 18:57 |
John S Stuart wrote: The short answer is that they come from seperate sources. The adulterated feed you refer to was for a dedicated Radio feed, which picked up stray radio operated signals. The bootlegs which contain this error, were therefore taken from the radio source. The video/audio feed was seperate and different (umbilical) - and that is why the radio microphone was not picked up in either the original television broadcast or the subsequent DVD release.Sorry to disagree, but I recorded Live Aid on VHS on the day it was broadcast and the guy babbling on about his mike is in there loud and clear (on dutch television anyways). I'd still like to know how they fixed the DVD though! |
| John S Stuart 16.04.2005 19:04 |
Fireplace: Sorry to disagree, but I recorded Live Aid on VHS on the day it was broadcast and the guy babbling on about his mike is in there loud and clear (on dutch television anyways). Sorry to disagree with you. I too recorded Live Aid on VHS on the day it was broadcast, but this time from the BBC in the UK. I can assure you that the guy babbling was NOT on the video. Therefore, we have the same sound but coming from different sources or feeds. How else do you think they fixed it? The answer is they didn't fix anything. One feed was corrupted, the other was not. |
| Fireplace 17.04.2005 05:24 |
John S Stuart wrote: Sorry to disagree with you. I too recorded Live Aid on VHS on the day it was broadcast, but this time from the BBC in the UK. I can assure you that the guy babbling was NOT on the video. Therefore, we have the same sound but coming from different sources or feeds. How else do you think they fixed it? The answer is they didn't fix anything. One feed was corrupted, the other was not.OK, so they used the radio signal for sound in the foreign TV broadcasts. I'm glad they had an alternative though. I remember almost blowing a fuse when a song as delicate as ITTWWC fell victim to technical difficulties! Thanks for clearing that up John. |
| ANAGRAMER 17.04.2005 10:16 |
John S Stuart wrote: Fireplace: Sorry to disagree, but I recorded Live Aid on VHS on the day it was broadcast and the guy babbling on about his mike is in there loud and clear (on dutch television anyways). Sorry to disagree with you. I too recorded Live Aid on VHS on the day it was broadcast, but this time from the BBC in the UK. I can assure you that the guy babbling was NOT on the video. Therefore, we have the same sound but coming from different sources or feeds. How else do you think they fixed it? The answer is they didn't fix anything. One feed was corrupted, the other was not.Your video must be faulty friend - the audio broadcast by BBC certainy did have overdubbed voice '...nothin on radiomikes Dave' - for definite - listen again |
| deleted user 17.04.2005 11:56 |
<b><font color = "crimson">ThomasQuinn wrote: JSS: just one question: what did you record it from DUTCH television for?What do you mean? He said "from the BBC in the UK" |
| John S Stuart 17.04.2005 12:18 |
There must be some sort of discrepancies somewhere. First - My signal came from BBC Scotland, and there was NO radio microphone interference on the day. I recorded the gig on VHS - and I have just played it. No sireee Bob. It's just not there. So I can safely conclude - some parts of the world received the contaminated feed - and others did not. The non-contaminated feed was used on the DVD. Now, common-sense dictates that two feeds must have been used - becuase it would be impossible to fix otherwise. What about the rest of the world US/Australia - which feed did they receive? |
| deleted user 17.04.2005 12:21 |
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| John S Stuart 17.04.2005 13:01 |
Just double checking, (and acting Sherlock Holmes) here. The BBC Radio One FM Stereo feed has the radio mike problems. I have just played the original cassette (or MD copy!). So the FM Stereo feed is definately corrupt. The video signal I recorded - was not corrupted. However, I was very lucky in that I owned both stereo TV and Video equipment (which was pretty rare) at the time. Infact, the audio version I used was taken from the video because of the radio problems. Most original "Live Aid" VHS I know of - are in mono. At the time, I do not think it was broadcast in NICAM, (but rather Hi-Fi Stereo), and I think there may have been a choice of feeds. Feed 1: Mono Feed 2: Stereo Feed 3: Stereo & Commentary. If the above is true, then perhaps it makes sense that the corrupt feed was number 3, and that I recorded number 2. Certainly, a few years after this, I bought my first Satellite system, and that operated on the same priciple. Some German and Dutch Stations (RTL 4?) would provide Chanel 1 as mono (Dutch), Chanel 2 was stereo (Dutch), and Chanel 3 was English (or whatever the host language was). But "Live Aid" was before then. Just wondering, isn't possible that this sort of system was in place on the day - as it was on satellite and beamed all over the world, and that the stereo feed I recorded is the same feed they use on the DVD now? |
| Fireplace 17.04.2005 17:47 |
I know for a fact that the Dutch TV feed came directly from the BBC, that's why I was so sure it had the mike glitch on it. I also read that the BBC kept a multitrack version of the concert (just the Wembley part I believe),despite Bob Geldof's request to destroy it, so I know how they were able to repair the DVD. The mystery remains why BBC Scotland didn't broadcast the glitch. Superior Scottish technology, John:-)? |
| deleted user 17.04.2005 18:09 |
from what i know the Show was directly beamed worldwide via satalite,so the whole world recieved the same VIDEO, however the radio version came from a different feed altogether, i am lead to understand that the radio came directly from that of the audio mixing desk, so commentry (correct me if im wrong) was mixed in there, so the video would have recieved the overheard commentry like that heard during ITTWWC, quite often because those satalittes kept cutting off during the show so the full thing was never seen by the whole world, only about75% was seen. Please tell me if that made any sense cos i dont think it did! |
| John S Stuart 17.04.2005 18:30 |
I have no idea - except that there must have been some way to preserve the original - as one thing is for sure - Freddie did not come back to overdub the original - and also - it is not from another concert (substitute) - so it is the fully preserved "Live Aid". I think, rather than superior technology - it may have been regional technology, as I believe Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland all had regional commentators and telephone numbers. (As Comic Relief has today - the BBC Regional Variations still have different phone-ins etc). So while you guys had people like that Old Grey Whistle Test Paul McCartney look-alike commentate, we had guys like Dougie Donelly! Other than that. I too am at a loss. |
| BHM1775 17.04.2005 19:18 |
There must have been some system available to do repairs. I seem to remember McCartneys mike fail on Let it Be and all we heard was the Piano ? |
| Freddie F 18.04.2005 09:55 |
Mc Cartney's missing vocal part for "Let It Be" has been overdubbed by Sir Paul himself in.. 2004, at his own request, for this release. |