| Ander Vørschört 05.03.2005 17:54 |
I happen to think that TATDOOL revealed it. (Please note that this has nothing to do with "when he knew". I only would like to know your opinion!) |
| JohnC 05.03.2005 19:03 |
I want it all reveal it. |
| Scott_Mercury 05.03.2005 22:17 |
I would say the video for Scandal for me....or Breakthru. |
| john bodega 05.03.2005 23:41 |
Breakthru was when he looked great, just old that's all. |
| Mercuryworks 06.03.2005 00:22 |
Headlong showed him in pain at one point closing his eyes enduring it and TADTOOL the last second he looked pretty fucked up |
| Gunpowder Gelatine 06.03.2005 01:59 |
Headlong and These Are The Days Of Our Lives. He looked a bit off in Scandal and I Want It All, but it wasn't that noticeable. |
| mercuryqueen 06.03.2005 04:26 |
These Are the Days of Our lives. Right at the end. Makes me cry everytime i see it. |
| deleted user 06.03.2005 06:31 |
I Want It All he looks a little ill but only if you know that he had aids then if you didn't know he may not Scandal he definately looks a little bit weaker The Miracle (Definately, looking a little thin and gaunt but not much. I think the time when he looked noticibly ill was during the Goodbye to the eighties and 1990 Brit awards. Every one probably knew something was wrong when tatdool was released though. Sorry for boring you all with this. Thats just my opinion. |
| JohnC 06.03.2005 07:57 |
<font color=#FF399> Linda Of The Valley wrote: What a nice threadIf Linda of the vaginal says it's not a good thread, it's because it's not. |
| Sonia Doris 06.03.2005 13:33 |
<font color=#FF399> Linda Of The Valley wrote: What a nice threadisnt it? |
| *JAZZ* 06.03.2005 13:35 |
when he died. |
| Ander Vørschört 06.03.2005 14:05 |
<font><font color=#7FFF00>*JAZZ*</font> wrote: when he died.Best answer (I think) so far! |
| Scirocco1977 08.03.2005 17:55 |
I remember seeing the Breakthru video... I had not the feeling I was watching an ill guy on a train... but then again I was twelve. I think he looks damn pale on Scandal (although he used the same make-up in "A Kind of Magic". Also, wasn't the video of Days of Our Lives released after Freddie's death? |
| Ander Vørschört 08.03.2005 18:13 |
Scirocco1977 wrote: I remember seeing the Breakthru video... I had not the feeling I was watching an ill guy on a train... but then again I was twelve. I think he looks damn pale on Scandal (although he used the same make-up in "A Kind of Magic". Also, wasn't the video of Days of Our Lives released after Freddie's death?I know, I'm just asking when he LOOKED illest! |
| deleted user 09.03.2005 12:26 |
I don't think Freddie looked ill at the Breakthru video. Actually I think he's happy on that :) They all are, at least that's what I think when I look at it. In I Want It All he looks ill :( But still he's powerful and great :) But yes, ill... |
| GreatKingSam 09.03.2005 13:11 |
a few of you have said he looks ill in I Want It All. i think, physically, hes not at all bad, and its only cause we know he was ill that we think it. but, and this may sound strange, but i think its something in his eyes that shows it most. |
| Scott_Mercury 09.03.2005 14:06 |
Great King Sam... Absolutely.. Freddie's look in his eyes was different from 1987 on... He looked completely different after 1986. I remember when I saw the video for the Miracle, I told everyone in the room that something wasn't right. He didn't look so sick, perhaps, but he looked so sad....almost like he was keeping a secret....which he was. |
| GreatKingSam 09.03.2005 15:29 |
you're right, there is a sort of lonely sadness to them, but determination too. and i know it sound weird, but sometimes, his movements were different. obviously in the latter days he was in a lot of pain and couldn't run around humping speakers and stuff, but even in the late 80's vids, it was the same Freddie moves, but just a little bit slower and smoother |
| deleted user 09.03.2005 15:47 |
Im Goin Slighly Mad, and These are the days of our lives, cos on both he is incredibly thin, face is pure white and i know its black and white but you can tell the difference between his and the other band memebers, now that iv sed that i think we shud close the subject on Freddies illness and not speak about his illness agen becos its is more or less becomin an obsession with everyone. |
| Ander Vørschört 09.03.2005 16:41 |
taylorgaga wrote: Im Goin Slighly Mad, and These are the days of our lives, cos on both he is incredibly thin, face is pure white and i know its black and white but you can tell the difference between his and the other band memebers, now that iv sed that i think we shud close the subject on Freddies illness and not speak about his illness agen becos its is more or less becomin an obsession with everyone.It isn't an obsession. It's something you can't avoid when you're talking about queen |
| deleted user 09.03.2005 16:50 |
Well you can, just talk about the music, and i know you will proabbly say hard to do wwhen you talk about some of the songs, like those off the mriacle album or innuendo, but think of how good the songs are and not what they represent, just say to yourself either "Great song by a great band" or "not much of a tune but still a great band" |
| Mr.Jingles 09.03.2005 19:43 |
I think Freddie probably looked the worst on Nov 24th 1991. |
| deleted user 10.03.2005 02:32 |
And whys that? i think we are all onabout which music vid did his illness look worst on, not an exact date, if you do give an date like you have you have to give a reason for those who dont have a clue about that date. |
| Benn 10.03.2005 07:22 |
When a picture appeared on the front page of The Sun in April 1991, showing freddie walking across the road after leaving Dr. Atkinson's surgery. Indefatigable evidence that Freddie was riddled with AIDS |
| GreatKingSam 10.03.2005 07:41 |
i know there were always constant rumours in the press, and coupled with Freddie's oddly changing appearance, no-one ever seems to talk about the way his voice changed. its not that he lost the ability to sing, far from. its just its obvious that there was a difference in his voice. its hard to put it in words, but im sure you all know what i mean. just the way he sing. it wasnt as noticable on The Miracle as on Innuendo (and later Made In Hevaen), but it was clearly a noticeable change. anyone else agree? |
| Martin Packer 10.03.2005 07:44 |
I thought it was more nasal and I didn't like it as much. Almost like he was trying too hard. |
| GreatKingSam 10.03.2005 07:46 |
nasal was the word i was looking for. but it was sort of nasal from the throat if you know what i mean? either way, surely his change in voice was/is as much of a giveaway to the declination in his health as his appearance was |
| Fenderek 10.03.2005 08:12 |
Mr.Jingles79 wrote: I think Freddie probably looked the worst on Nov 24th 1991.ditto |
| Scott_Mercury 10.03.2005 08:51 |
Like I've said 1000 times. On Innuendo, he sounds thinner... The voice is amazing, really, his voice sounded really strong on Innuendo. But compare the voice on, for example "Princes of the Universe" compared to "Headlong".....and it literally sounds like comparing someone who weighs 170lbs to someone who weighs 125lbs. To put it best in words, Innuendo sounded like "the voice was strong, but the body supporting it was weak." If that makes any sense. |
| Mr.Jingles 10.03.2005 09:49 |
Did Freddie's voice really change while he was ill? I mean, perhaps a bit softer but not as much to make it remarkably notorious. Take for instance that "Mother Love" was the last song he recorded, and I don't think it changed that much in any way. Freddie's voice was still strong and powerful. If Freddie's voice sounds a bit more soft and less husky than on 80s albums like 'A Kind Of Magic', it might have been probably due to the fact that after finding about his illness Dr. Atkins told him to immediatly quit smoking. Besides, Freddie once admitted in the early 80s that he didn't mind smoking because he actually wanted his voice to sound huskier. What actually surprises me is that Freddie's voice wasn't affected in a bad way by his illness. |
| ANAGRAMER 10.03.2005 14:57 |
Mr.Jingles79 wrote: Did Freddie's voice really change while he was ill? I mean, perhaps a bit softer but not as much to make it remarkably notorious. Take for instance that "Mother Love" was the last song he recorded, and I don't think it changed that much in any way. Freddie's voice was still strong and powerful. If Freddie's voice sounds a bit more soft and less husky than on 80s albums like 'A Kind Of Magic', it might have been probably due to the fact that after finding about his illness Dr. Atkins told him to immediatly quit smoking. Besides, Freddie once admitted in the early 80s that he didn't mind smoking because he actually wanted his voice to sound huskier. What actually surprises me is that Freddie's voice wasn't affected in a bad way by his illness.Is it not time to stop mulling over this topic - when will it end? |
| brENsKi 12.03.2005 12:43 |
I'm going slightly mad there was a comment made during the filming documentary where it's said he was "£plastered" in makeup and had extra layers of clothing on to hide the fact that his clothing was hanging off him on this vid he was clearly terminally ill with soemthing i remember at the time thinking he might have had cancer or something similar - then when there was nothing really said for a while - i thought perhaps he was getting radiotherapy or chemotherapy it was only when the sun printed those photos that i can remember accepting that he was dying |
| *3*Playful as a pussycat 12.03.2005 19:13 |
eh...guys this is really depressing. im sure he did sound different when he was ill but do we really have to hang on it? let's talk about when he wasnt ill and was happy and healthy! |
| Mle2747 12.03.2005 22:13 |
*cries a lot* |
| john bodega 13.03.2005 08:35 |
He's dead guys, and nothing will bring back his ghost. Just let the morbid types discuss things on their own, eh? If you see a thread titled 'FREDDIE'S ILLNESS OMG', just don't click it? I'm sure his ghost is angry with you now. |
| john bodega 13.03.2005 10:37 |
Actually, someone raised an interesting point earlier about when he SOUNDED the most ill. Funny thing is, Mother Love was his last vocal performance, but if I didn't know better I'd have thought he sounded the most ill on (and therefore would've said that the last track was) You Don't Fool Me. He just doesn't sound too healthy, and it sounds a bit 'sampled' (what with the repeated lyrics and stuff). But yeah, the ghost is hunting you all down. Oooooohhh..... |
| Ander Vørschört 13.03.2005 15:44 |
<B><font color=#ff7f00>Brenski</B> wrote: I'm going slightly mad there was a comment made during the filming documentary where it's said he was "£plastered" in makeup and had extra layers of clothing on to hide the fact that his clothing was hanging off him on this vid he was clearly terminally ill with soemthing i remember at the time thinking he might have had cancer or something similar - then when there was nothing really said for a while - i thought perhaps he was getting radiotherapy or chemotherapy it was only when the sun printed those photos that i can remember accepting that he was dyingCan you tell me where this documentary is? |
| Ander Vørschört 13.03.2005 15:48 |
Zebonka12 wrote: He's dead guys, and nothing will bring back his ghost. Just let the morbid types discuss things on their own, eh? If you see a thread titled 'FREDDIE'S ILLNESS OMG', just don't click it? I'm sure his ghost is angry with you now.Dick Valentine brought his "Ghost" back! *Kicks Dick in the nuts* |
| LucyCoeCollins 13.03.2005 16:19 |
i'm going slighty mad still freaks me out when i watch it freddie looks somewhat posessed and clearly not well in that one... the miracle, headlong, i have yet to see scandal i want it all and of course TATDOOL:-( |
| deleted user 13.03.2005 17:55 |
Athena_Mercury wrote: i'm going slighty mad still freaks me out when i watch it freddie looks somewhat posessed and clearly not well in that one... the miracle, headlong, i have yet to see scandal i want it all and of course TATDOOL:-(Do you have GVHII. Scandals on there. I was just gonna say if you don't have it it's only £12.99 at HMV. |
| lozitopj 13.03.2005 19:54 |
I believe Freddie's illness was most noticeable at the ITV Awards in 1990 when they received the award for the best band of the '80s. He was dressed in a light blue suit and he looked very thin. Brian did most of the talking that night. |
| Ander Vørschört 13.03.2005 20:36 |
lozitopj wrote: I believe Freddie's illness was most noticeable at the ITV Awards in 1990 when they received the award for the best band of the '80s. He was dressed in a light blue suit and he looked very thin. Brian did most of the talking that night.And the sun posted a picture of him in a car after the party that night, without makeup, and he was thin, bony and discoloured. |
| Ander Vørschört 15.03.2005 15:16 |
whowantstoliveforever88 wrote:The guy who wrote that article should burn!lozitopj wrote: I believe Freddie's illness was most noticeable at the ITV Awards in 1990 when they received the award for the best band of the '80s. He was dressed in a light blue suit and he looked very thin. Brian did most of the talking that night.And the sun posted a picture of him in a car after the party that night, without makeup, and he was thin, bony and discoloured. |
| doremi 15.03.2005 16:20 |
lozitopj wrote: I believe Freddie's illness was most noticeable at the ITV Awards in 1990 when they received the award for the best band of the '80s. He was dressed in a light blue suit and he looked very thin. Brian did most of the talking that night.That's when I was completely overwhelmed at how ill he looked. That was probably the worst. Amazingly as bad as he looked in several of the last videos, including "These Are The days Of Our Lives", I didn't think he looked as bad as at the awards, I think because maybe he was wearing alot of makeup in the videos and the video directors maybe were able to filter and soften the lighting. But at the ITV Awards, it was live and so the live setting and bright stage lighting showed the worst. But wasn't it brave of Freddie to make that public appearance anyhow, knowing that the public might and did in fact notice his illness via his appearance...so that he could accept his much deserved award and be with his bandmates. I'm sure that award must have meant the world to him as all awards honoring he & Queen's music from their music peers were. And in the last year or so of his life, I'm sure having his music, Queen's music, and their/his work, being honored with awards such as the ITV, meant all that much more and helped to give him strength and courage & faith to keep him going, since to Freddie, his music and work were everything. |
| Sonia Doris 15.03.2005 16:30 |
<font color = "crimson">ThomasQuinn wrote:My opinion is that he looked far worse on (let's say) December 1st...Mr.Jingles79 wrote: I think Freddie probably looked the worst on Nov 24th 1991.Well, I think he'd look considerably worse on November 25th! ;-) |
| Asterik 27.01.2006 15:15 |
He looks in a bad way on Scandal yes but funnily enough of all the videos recorded for The miracle he probably gave his most high energy dispaly on tha tone. I think it's onbvious he looked worse in '91 so how about re-phrasing the question to when did his illness first become noticeable. my bet's on I Want it All- did anyone know he'd grown a beard before they saw it? |