QueenZone discussion #469149
Mary Austin
| Burning Horizon 31.01.2005 21:47 |
does anybody know why freddie and her broke up or did they just break up when he told her he was gay? |
| L-R-TIGER1994 31.01.2005 21:50 |
He told her he was gay. |
| 1quen_fan 31.01.2005 22:08 |
I thought Freddie told her that he was bisexual? |
| Mr.Jingles 31.01.2005 22:25 |
Mary knew Freddie was gay when he begged her not to shave her legs. |
| Burning Horizon 31.01.2005 22:39 |
what the.. |
| Daburcor? 31.01.2005 22:39 |
Mr.Jingles79 wrote: Mary knew Freddie was gay when he begged her not to shave her legs.I think he asked her to grow some facial hair too... |
| Burning Horizon 31.01.2005 22:40 |
when did they breakup? |
| Lester Burnham 31.01.2005 22:42 |
1976 or 77, I think. |
| Monte: Liquorice Years 01.02.2005 02:27 |
Mr.Jingles79 wrote: Mary knew Freddie was gay when he begged her not to shave her legs.ew.....shes at one with nature!!! no!!! no hippies!! i hate people who dont shave their legs...it scares me...*twitch* |
| dave2005 01.02.2005 04:04 |
Hmmm ... is the thing with shaving legs recorded somewhere? Or how do we know? And then ... he never admitted publicly that he was gay. Did she mention it later in an interview or something like that? And even after that, he was bisexual anyway - i think he had lots of female lovers as well, didnt he? :) |
| brENsKi 01.02.2005 07:58 |
<font><font color=charm>Alex Solan wrote: She's a fuckin' whore.i hope that was a joke - she was his lifelong friend and confidant....i don't think she fits any description of "whore" - explain your reasoning- for dissing the one person of any consistence throughout his career and the one person who Freedie always relied and trusted on |
| We Are The Champions 01.02.2005 11:47 |
<font><font color=charm>Alex Solan wrote: She's a fuckin' whore.No ******* way is she a whore. She's a very pleasant shy lady and was genuinely in love with Freddie.....even though he was really gay. Had Freddie been straight, they would probably have got married and Freddie would probably be alive today. She adored children and as Freddie wouldn't be seen dead fathering a kid, she married someone else after leaving Freddie and has children herself. In case you didn't know pal, Mary was Brian girlfriend before she met Freddie! |
| nibznik 01.02.2005 14:27 |
I heard they broke up in late 79 80 and in Freddies last years (according to jim hutton) freddie was friends with her but not best friends as she led everyone else to believe, that and (again according to jim) she was a dumbass. |
| Janet 01.02.2005 14:30 |
Freddie's own actions speak the loudest where Mary Austin is concerned. Jim and Feebie can say what they like, but Freddie left HER the house. It was his choice. And I don't blame Mary for moving in and making it her home. She was always there for Freddie no matter what, and he relied on her heavily. She deserved it. |
| Hitman 01.02.2005 14:32 |
gossips of late 70s :/ |
| Mate Filipovic 01.02.2005 15:31 |
Burning Horizon wrote: does anybody know why freddie and her broke up or did they just break up when he told her he was gay?You have EVERYTHING in "The untold story" documentary. |
| Mr Mercury 01.02.2005 15:50 |
Mate Filipovic wrote: You have EVERYTHING in "The untold story" documentary.Well not quite everything. It doesnt tell you about his relationship with Rosemary Pearson and how he knew he was gay (or at least had an inkling he was) long before meeting Mary. Heres an interesting link for those who are interested link |
| flash00. 01.02.2005 16:46 |
<font><font color=charm>Alex Solan wrote: She's a fuckin' whore.oooo nasty,, freddie loved mary to bits, and yea he got back with her in 79 for a brief while before it ended, and yes its true freddie had as many chicks as he did guys so there we have it. lol |
| Zander05 01.02.2005 16:51 |
Can you blame Freddie for wanting to get involved in what society called 'normal' relationships? Kenny Everett did the same thing. As far as leaving Garden Lodge to Mary... Freddie had always wanted it to be a family home. It just so happened Mary had a baby and another on the way. |
| brENsKi 01.02.2005 17:19 |
it doesn't matter what all his lovers have to say about Mary...she stuck by him as a friend and confidant he was godfather to one of her kids (i believe) and freddie loved her dearly - probably moreso than Jim - which is why he left her Garden Lodge anyone who speaks ill of her is either bitter and twisted jealous of FM's MA's friendship or deeply insecure i would guess that in some cases ALL THREE of the above could be Jim |
| Burning Horizon 01.02.2005 18:52 |
who did Mary marry? |
| Mr.Jingles 01.02.2005 18:54 |
<font><font color=charm>Alex Solan wrote: She's a fuckin' whore.Keep in mind that Freddie was a bigger whore than Mary. |
| Burning Horizon 01.02.2005 18:55 |
but not as much as john, wut a pimp, *cough* |
| deleted user 01.02.2005 19:07 |
Agreed with Janet's post. How does Mary deserved to be called a "whore" for taking what was rightfully hers? |
| Mr.Jingles 01.02.2005 19:26 |
I can't believe how some people diss Mary Austin, and defend Jim Hutton. Mary never asked nor manipulated Freddie in any kind of way to give her his money. Nevertheless to leave him his vast fortune. She was always there for him despite all circumstances, for good or bad (just like if they were married). If Freddie chose to leave her his fortune was because she was the best choice. Now, at least Mary didn't make money from giving details about intimate anecdotes from Freddie's private life like Jim Hutton did. I mean, I'm sorry that Jim lost Freddie and he got AIDS from him, but I think Freddie gave him more than plenty of money to start a new life. So there was no need for Jim to exploit Freddie's memory and privacy by publishing 'Mercury and Me'. |
| newcastle 86! 16483 01.02.2005 20:38 |
ahmy god its all hearsay tittle tattle freddie n mary brike up in 73/74 as he found fame his gay "roots" began to blossom mary married twice eventually havin kids |
| StarShine 01.02.2005 20:53 |
Burning Horizon wrote: but not as much as john, wut a pimp, *cough*Here, here! :D |
| deleted user 01.02.2005 21:10 |
Stop with this whore nonsense...your putting down women. |
| redyfredy01 01.02.2005 21:13 |
Actually, they didnt break up when i said he was gay. Because he didnt say he was gay. The conversation went like this: Freddie: I think i am bisexual. Mary: I think you are gay. the they hugged and made up. Thats all. |
| Mr.Jingles 01.02.2005 21:43 |
I think it was like this... - Freddie: I think i am bisexual. - Mary: I think you are gay. - Freddie: No I am telling you... I am bisexual. - Mary: You just say that because you just want me to think that I still stand a chance, and you don't want to hurt my feelings - Freddie: Don't you trust me? - Mary: I do, but I want you to be honest with me - Freddie: For God's sake I'm being honest - Mary: Then perhaps you're confused. - Freddie: Confused about what? - Mary: About whether you feel attracted to women or not - Freddie: Of course I do, how about all the times we've made love - Mary: Then why do you always turn off the lights when we have sex - Freddie: I just like it that way, is there anything wrong with that? - Mary: How about all the times that you feel particularly horny when there's a Burt Reynolds movie on TV - Freddie: It doesn't make me horny, I mean just a bit perhaps. - Mary: Just like it makes you horny to see my legs hairy, and how you beg me not to shave - Freddie: I just like the natural look, that's all. - Mary: C'mon Freddie, look I love you and I knew you were gay for a very long time. I've learned to accept it, and it doesn't hurt me any longer. - Freddie: But I am not gay! - Mary: Oh yeah, then do I need to remind you about the time that you yelled "Oh Roger!" when you had an orgasm. - Freddie: I didn't say that... I said "Oh Gorgeous", or smth like that - Mary: Please Freddie, just admit it. - Freddie: For the 10th time... I am not gay! - Mary: Freddie, I also know how much you like to stare at Brian's ass - Freddie: OK, OK... I guess I'm gay then - Mary: See, it wasn't so hard wasn't it? - Freddie: Not as hard as John's cock - Mary: Oh God, don't tell me he is too? - Freddie: Oh totally darling, that's why he's so damn quiet, because he doesn't want anyone to know - Mary: But he seems so shy and dedicated to his family - Freddie: Oh heavens no! and I bet you anything that if I ever leave the band or die he will retire immediatly. |
| SergeantPepperDG 01.02.2005 21:47 |
Hahahahahaha. I feel guilty now for buying and reading "Mercury and Me." |
| Burning Horizon 01.02.2005 22:48 |
nice one Mr. jingles |
| Brianmay1975 02.02.2005 08:37 |
I've read on a French site that their relationship "ended in tears' when Mary caught Freddie while "cleaning the house" with eddie, their house cleaner. Don't know if this is true. On the other hand, flash000, did you count all Freddie's lovers, in order to know he had as many chicks as guys? Please do give me the exact number of his male and female lovers, I'm really desperate to know it :) The French site is this one: link On the map, go to the Garret and check the "Mary austin - false friend?" link (or smth like that, i haven't been on that site for a long time). |
| StarShine 02.02.2005 09:26 |
<font><font color=charm>Alex Solan wrote: She's a fuckin' whore.You jerk! She is not a whore! She cares for Freddie and doesn't not act like a whore. |
| pma 02.02.2005 11:10 |
Geewiz, am I the only person here who DOESN'T even vaguely know any of these people in question and because of that simple fact has NO whatsoever opinion in if they are WHORES or if they DESERVED what they got... *CAPS for emphasis is an annoying habit, I hate it* Oh, btw. She's a stereotypical faghag who just got lucky. Nothing more, nothing less :-P [/hypocrite] |
| brENsKi 02.02.2005 12:15 |
nice one MRJingles, but the conversation didn't quite end there did it????.... - Mary: Please Freddie, just admit it. - Freddie: For the 10th time... I am not gay! - Mary: Then why the fuck do you only ever stick it up MY ASS these days? - Freddie: OK, OK... I guess I'm gay then - Mary: See, it wasn't so hard was it? - Freddie: it is when i f*ck yer ass |
| OrAnGe SoDa 02.02.2005 17:27 |
i so wish i was mary austin when they were going out!!!!!seriously! |
| deleted user 02.02.2005 17:50 |
*Queen_Sao* wrote: i so wish i was mary austin when they were going out!!!!!seriously!hahaha! |
| 1quen_fan 02.02.2005 19:01 |
I wish i was Mary too. **Sigh** |
| newcastle 86! 16483 02.02.2005 20:45 |
well said star shine.............and alex |
| CutieQueenoftheNight 02.02.2005 22:26 |
does anyone know anything about ricky mercury the baby mary got preg with during freddie's illness? |
| stormtrooper in stilettos 03.02.2005 15:47 |
mary austin is a total bitch because of what she did to Jim Hutton after Freddies death. Poor Jim isnt allowed into freds house because of her!!!!!! |
| Janet 03.02.2005 16:16 |
Uh...its HER house. |
| Queen T 03.02.2005 16:35 |
I do agree...if Jim was being 100% honest in his book (and what reason has he to not be?) it seems as though Mary may have been a little harsh on him. I mean, Jim lost the love of his life too, you know? Why did Mary feel the need to be kinda selfish? I really don't think Jim was out for Freddie's money but just to keep a piece of his memory alive with him. I mean, for cryin out loud, Jim put so much time and effort into building and refurnishing all those things to Garden Lodge. He should have had some say in how things turned out in the end, which I think Freddie allotted to Jim, but Mary sidestepped it. But I guess we can't judge unless we know the entire situation and take into account everybody's feelings during that particular time. We will never know... |
| Queen T 03.02.2005 16:40 |
But Mary was a loving kind-hearted lady to Freddie so we can't blame on her either I guess considering the aweful circumstances surrounding Freddie's death. So...why don't we forget about it and accept that "to err is human, to forgive is devine." |
| mickyparise 03.02.2005 18:29 |
Mary must've been really special to Freddie, or else he would'nt have left his house and finacally secure for her and her family, if not. I'm sure when he knew he was dying, he did'nt change his will....and Mary did'nt write a book/movie/press to everyone to make a quick buc! I honestly feel that Freddie had a soul mate in Mary Austin and there friendship was something I guess noone will ever no! And I feel when Freddie was down or needed someone to confide in, he would call or see her. Leave Mary Austin alone, I think she was a very special person to Freddie. And as far as Jim Hutton, I read the book, you don't no if it's ALL TRUE or NOT.......or parts made up to sell the book. (did Mary Austin do that?) No....... Mary is happy, and I'm sure Freddie in Heaven is happy......... |
| Burning Horizon 03.02.2005 18:33 |
well said mickeyparise |
| Awesome-O _4000 03.02.2005 20:54 |
Wait.... Mary was with Brian FIRST?? |
| LivingGirl 03.02.2005 21:15 |
mickyparise wrote: Mary must've been really special to Freddie, or else he would'nt have left his house and finacally secure for her and her family, if not. I'm sure when he knew he was dying, he did'nt change his will....and Mary did'nt write a book/movie/press to everyone to make a quick buc! I honestly feel that Freddie had a soul mate in Mary Austin and there friendship was something I guess noone will ever no! And I feel when Freddie was down or needed someone to confide in, he would call or see her. Leave Mary Austin alone, I think she was a very special person to Freddie. And as far as Jim Hutton, I read the book, you don't no if it's ALL TRUE or NOT.......or parts made up to sell the book. (did Mary Austin do that?) No....... Mary is happy, and I'm sure Freddie in Heaven is happy............touching and it's true...I just wish I was Mary. |
| Martin Packer 04.02.2005 03:05 |
Personally I don't know whether I'd want to be Mary or not. Losing Freddie has obviously cast a long shadow on her life. But let's not forget she had some good times with him, too. Any footage or photos of them together make that very clear. I also have a lot of sympathy for Jim. As someone else pointed out, he lost someone very close to him, whatever the spin in his book. You could argue Mary treated Jim harshly, and I have some sympathy with that. But consider the state she would've been in and none of us act particularly rationally under such circumstances. |
| Daburcor? 04.02.2005 03:18 |
MyHammerIsFalling wrote: "to err is human, to forgive is devine." Janet wrote:"To err is human, to moo, bovine."And on ONE page no less... ;) |
| The King Of Rhye 04.02.2005 05:25 |
uhhrrr......I dunno about this all....I respect Mary cus she was one of the best friends of Freddie..... and, actually, I think Mary Austin was and/or is kinda cute......... |
| Janet 04.02.2005 06:36 |
LOL @ Dan! ;-) |
| freddie4ever92 17.02.2005 18:21 |
In reply Awesome-0_4000 to yes Mary was with Brian but it didn't really go very far then Brian realised Freddie liked her and introduced them, and as they say the rest is history! |
| bellydancer 17.02.2005 22:26 |
Thank you Dennis!! I got stomped on a month or so ago saying Freddie was Bi and yet I read it in a book by Jim Hutton!! Mary hmmmmm - dunno about her - again what I read in that aforementioned book Mary didn't seem to be all that nice. Then again - we don't really know what went on behind the scenes do we and I guess we never will |
| john bodega 18.02.2005 02:09 |
Freddie Mercury's ghost will get you |
| vickyh 02.12.2005 15:58 |
Alex Solan wrote: She's a fuckin' whore.If ignorance is bliss....you are the happiest man alive. Do you think Freddie would appreciate your filthy comment about Mary? People like you cause hate in the world. |
| Sharon G. 02.12.2005 17:48 |
I believe Mary was indeed the love of Freddie's life. You can see how much he loved her and she him by looking at the pics of the two of them together. Btw, they made an adorable couple.I think in time they might have ended up together again. |
| PainPleasure 02.12.2005 18:17 |
vickyh wrote:Exactly!Alex Solan wrote: She's a fuckin' whore.If ignorance is bliss....you are the happiest man alive. Do you think Freddie would appreciate your filthy comment about Mary? People like you cause hate in the world. |
| Winter Land Man 02.12.2005 21:47 |
<b><font color = "crimson">ThomasQuinn wrote:I can't blame her. Would you want to live in a house and having to take care of some guy who has AIDS who went out with your ex-boyfriend, and then had to live with him?Monte: Liqourice Years wrote:Does that include guys as well?Mr.Jingles79 wrote: Mary knew Freddie was gay when he begged her not to shave her legs.ew.....shes at one with nature!!! no!!! no hippies!! i hate people who dont shave their legs...it scares me...*twitch* Dude, that's like saying, if my girlfriend left me for a girl, and my girlfriend died, I'd have to let her girlfriend move in with me, if she had AIDS. I couldn't handle all that... thats what doctors and nurses do. And I'd be upset that a girl left me for another girl. |
| DreaminQueen 03.12.2005 19:53 |
Mate Filipovic wrote:Where can u find "The Untold Story"???Burning Horizon wrote: does anybody know why freddie and her broke up or did they just break up when he told her he was gay?You have EVERYTHING in "The untold story" documentary. I live in the US, and its terribly difficult to find Queen books etc out here... atleast in the central NY area |
| MelinaMercury 04.12.2005 11:23 |
yeah its good :D |
| DreaminQueen 04.12.2005 14:06 |
Janet wrote: Uh...its HER house.yes, but he wanted to go inside after fred died and gather the things that him and freddie shared, and she wouldnt allow him to do so. This was the wrong thing to do, he had a trunk of special things which freddie gave him, which was indeed rightfully his, and he couldnt retrieve it because she didnt want him there, and freddie told everyone he was close to who was living in garden lodge that they could stay there as long as they wanted/needed too, mary didnt heed those words... however, i dont think shes a whore. But what she did to jim wasnt right either. |
| DreaminQueen 04.12.2005 14:16 |
Alex Solan wrote: The Untold Story it is not a book. It's a DVD contained on The Freddie Mercury Solo Collection box set.Alrighty thanks. Yea i figured it was a DVD, and the solo collection, is it the 3 disc one?? cuz i heard theres a 10 disc one as well, or atleast there will be, can someone clarify this for me please?? THANKS SOO MUCH ALL! and i do feel bad for both mary and jim. when u lose someone like that, its difficult to cope, but we will not know what really happened, i like to believe what jim wrote was true, and i dont believe he wrote it to make money. otherwise, he would have done wayyy more things to make money on, i think it was something theraputic for him and something his fans could share in as well. and he wrote it a few years after freds death, had he wanted a quick buck, he could have made it while he was going out and living with freddie, not to mention, he wasnt into things like that, i mean he lived w/ fred and worked as his gardener, i dont think he seems liek the kind of man that would exploite someone for money, as he was a man who liked to keep his pride intact as well. |
| Mrs. Snugglebunny 08.12.2005 09:47 |
And remember guys that there is only so much that we fans know about the relationships of these three. Everything that's written here is pretty much just speculation. Which is why, there's really very little reason to get upset about stuff you only have second hand information on. And that's way there's also even less reason to start insulting people you probably have never even met in your life. |
| KillerQueen1429 05.01.2006 21:06 |
no one knows the real truth about these ppl except them and they don have to defend themselves to us so bashin ppl u dont kno is really uncalled for altho it was wrong of Mary to treat Jim like that he had the right to go get the things that were rightfully his and as far as Mary and Freddies breakup she said they broke up cuz he was GAY....i dunno y some ppl cant except he was that way and as for the guy who said he was wit alot of females i wanan kno where he found this out was he there cuz from everything ive read Mary was listed as the only woman he was with.I think everyone just needs to chill out cuz well never really kno what happened wit these 3 and ppl need to realise he was gay and not bisexual altho ppl said that cuz it made them feel better and easier to come to terms with. |