Oszmercury 12.01.2005 11:28 |
I was hearin the concert from Kampuchea and I am very impressed by freddie vocals, he sings so amazin, in some songs alomst the same as in the album, what d u think?? another great shows by freddie??? |
deleted user 12.01.2005 11:34 |
Well I know this was a short performance, but I loved him at Live Aid, especially the "Dae O" part, it sends shivers down my spine when I hear him. He also sang those songs very well all together. |
queenlegends 12.01.2005 11:36 |
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queenlegends 12.01.2005 11:38 |
umm... sorry about the above I dnt know what happened, funny lol its my first post. Right anyway...the best vocal performance has to be The show must go on and Who wants to live forever |
gabriel79 12.01.2005 13:21 |
in my defence.definitely |
Anto1 12.01.2005 13:30 |
Nice entrance queenlegends.:-p I'd go for, from what I've heard, Houston 77. |
Daveboy35 12.01.2005 16:05 |
I think personally germany 1986 mannheim concert simply great all the way through but live aid would be a close 2nd. |
AndresGuazzelli 12.01.2005 17:28 |
All God's People ;) |
wstüssyb 12.01.2005 17:33 |
germany 1986 mannheim to me he sounded like he had a cold for that show, as his voice is really different try to listen to saturday night live, Under pressure and CLTCL, listen to his voice, sounds vastly different, maybe not the worst, but he was up all night before the show yelling and screaming at his lover, they had to server him some kinda tea in the day |
LivingGirl 12.01.2005 17:45 |
Live at the Bowl--Somebody to Love me--perfect voice! Are you ready my brothers and sisters!Wwwooooowww! |
ActionThisDay 12.01.2005 18:09 |
Some of the show's in South America '81 he was pretty good, and I don't think I've heard a bad vocal 'Hot Space' show as well (Not including his cock-up with F.B.G at M.K of course...) |
little rocker 12.01.2005 21:32 |
who wants to live forever (live at wembley 86´)he does so great princess of the universe ensueño ( with monserrat caballe) the millionaire waltz |
Panza Pedraza - FER 12.01.2005 22:37 |
MMMM..., the second show from Argentina was amazing specially somebody to love, and that im not saying cos i'm argentinian. IMO the live version in Argentina was powerful, and Freddie's voice, even better than MK's STL. The first show in Argentina, when Freddie sung "Dead on two legs", he reached the high notes as it was the studio version. To me it was better than Live Aid, and i have no doubt about it. Impromptu - Tour '86 - was made with falsetto, and that not require a big effort, even it allows to take a rest to your voice. So Freddie was a unique singer, that impromptu was no big deal, but you can note that his voice had problems that day at Wembley. I have a doubt, the concert from Kampuchea was short?. I saw 20 minutes of the gig, but i saw excerpts of TYMD, save me and others. I guess the TV broadcasting made it "short" but the gig was long as usual. If someone can confirm it, great. |
Oszmercury 12.01.2005 23:57 |
I have the entire Kampuchea show, and is really amazin, I agree with you, the Argentina shows are very powerful, I have a video from japan in 1979, I bought it a few days ago, and has some images from Madrid at the same year, but in the japanese show freddie is in terrible shape, I doesn't hit the high notes in almost the entire show (edited) |
pedro22 13.01.2005 01:02 |
There is non higher freddie live performance than the one shown from montral 81 (we will rock you dvd), just seven months before On fire, but much better. |
Queenette=1 13.01.2005 01:26 |
I just want to know one thing? WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN? And you are just now noticing Freddie's voice. For heavens sake relax, turn on a Queen album, lay back and actually listen to the music, please or get off the site. |
My Melancholy Blues 13.01.2005 01:41 |
Oszmercury wrote: I was hearin the concert from Kampuchea and I am very impressed by freddie vocals, he sings so amazinI agree with you. I also feel his vocals in Kampuchea concert are very awesome as a whole, whenever I listen to it. Besides, I think "White Man"-"The Prophet's Song" and rock'n'roll medley of encore including "Jailhouse Rock" from Earl's Court are very awesome. And imo,"Keep Yourself Alive", "Liar" and rock'n' roll medley from Hammersmith '75 are impressive, despite the fact that Freddie and Brian had dreadful flu at that time... Of course, I'm always struck deeply by his vocals in MK concert. |
zanotti 13.01.2005 03:58 |
The innuendo album was his best recording, his voice sounded amazing all through, but I still hate Delilha. We will rock you Dvd was best gig. He was changing his voice by Wembley |
bas asselbergs 13.01.2005 04:40 |
i think the studio-version of "time" is one of the best things he ever did...everything his voice could do is in this song....and i think it is about time that someone brought it back in the theatres again....Peter Straker could sing these songs too....would be nice to see him do that ! And offcourse "the march of the black queen" and "the prophet's song" too, and...and...and...and...and... but my all-time nr 1 is and will always be "don't stop me now".....that's "musical red bull"...!!! |
gabriel79 13.01.2005 04:49 |
boemian rhapsody live at the bowl is incredible |
yellownymph 13.01.2005 05:10 |
Live at the Bowl is better than wembley throughout I think but Play The Game is the absoloute best, so much better than the album version. |
escuderodelareina 13.01.2005 06:55 |
i like under pressure, one year of love, you take my breath away, the show must go on and the fairy feller's master-stroke. por otra parte, mi respuesta es para panza pedraza. primero, si no eres argentino al menos eres latino, y segundo, queen realizo un show entero para recaudar fondos para la gente de kampuchea. sin embargo, en el lanzamiento del album, llamado 'concert for the people de kampuchea', solo se incluyo el tema now i'm here. |
Joost 13.01.2005 10:45 |
the way that he sings in the lap of the gods is amazing:P... and yes i'm talking about song nr 7 on the sheer heart attack album:P |
Debbie1 13.01.2005 13:31 |
For me Freddie's best vocal performance was I Want it All - it isn't my favourite song although I do like it - I just think Freddie's vocals are absolutely first class on it - his voice sounds amazing. |
newcastle 86! 16483 13.01.2005 17:43 |
kampuchea was class probably the best id love too see that released in some way |
Bob The Shrek 13.01.2005 18:34 |
I was at Hammersmith for the Kampuchea gig :-D |
newcastle 86! 16483 13.01.2005 19:54 |
nice one bob grrrrrrrrr! im not jealous1 lol |
boy of destiny 13.01.2005 23:38 |
There's so many, but the one that really stands out for me is at the end of "Don't Try So Hard." The guy's on the edge of death and singing with that kind of power and range. He gave everything he had and more. WOW! |
Daveboy35 14.01.2005 02:07 |
I think his best vocal performance studiowise has to be the haunting mother love just listen to the middle verse starting"i walked too long in this lonely lane" and hear the power and determination of his voice with the FACT that he was weeks away from death absolutely bloody amazing. Live wise i would have to say earls court 77 every vocal sang beautifully and full of power and grit IMO the best gig ever i've seen. |
brian_may_wannabe 14.01.2005 10:25 |
In My Defence Who Wants To Live Forever Don't Try So Hard Bohemian Rhapsody Guide Me Home How Can I Go On Let Me Live Friends Will Be Friends One Year Of Love I'm Going Slightly Mad |
carboengine 14.01.2005 13:08 |
LivingOnMyOwn wrote: Live at the Bowl--Somebody to Love me--perfect voice! Are you ready my brothers and sisters!Wwwooooowww!I agree with you that Somebody to Love Me on QOF is spectacular. I even think the audio throughout this DVD is outstanding for all four - one of the best Queen audio products ever. Freddie's voice doesn't have that pure, soft, sweet sound as in earlier years, but on QOF he is up and down scales like the smoothest slide trombone and with a lot of vocal power throughout. He was in great form that day! As one of his promoters said, "Queen always delivers!" |
Frenchfroggy 14.01.2005 16:36 |
Does anybody know why Freddie's voice had changed so much live in the 84-85-86 years ? The first live Queen album I ever heard was Live at Wembley back in 1992 and though the show was powerful, I was very disappointed by Freddie's voice, which was very weak in comparison with that of the albums...at some time in this concert, I wouldn't have guessed it was Freddie singing if I hadn't known it ! A friend of mine told me at that time that she couldn't recognize Freddie's voice as it was so different (and definitely worse) than in the studio... And this is not only in Wembley but actually it seems that his voice had really deepened in the Works tour and in the Magic tour...I noticed this in the videotape "The magic years vol. 2" where the concert excerpts from Rock in Rio (1985) and concerts in Australia show a Freddie with exactly the same voice than in Wembley 86, that's to say horrible when one thinks of what he was able to do a few years before. There is however a very noticeable exception in this period : during Live Aid 85, his voice sounds almost like his 80-82 live voice, and this is probably one of the most reasons this show has been so successful. It's only when I bought and heard "Live Killers" that I felt relieved : Freddie was really able to sing live like in the studio in 1979, his performance on "don't stop me now" is astounding as his voice is exactly the same than in the studio version and he reaches all the high notes... By the way, his best live performances are : - Houston 1977 ("my melancholy blues", absolutely wonderfully sung) - Montreal 1981 ("we will rock you" DVD) - Sao Paulo 1981 ("somebody to love", even better than in Milton Keynes) His voice is also very good and impressive at Milton Keynes, and I agree that Freddie's vocal masterpiece this night is "play the game" which is indeed better sung than in the "the game" record. |
mickyparise 14.01.2005 18:46 |
Cleveland, Ohio, '81, sitting on a stool with a guitar, and started crazy little thing called love, awesome! Studio wise Queen - Somebody to Love Solo - tie- BORNED TO B LOVED / Great Pretender |
mickyparise 14.01.2005 18:47 |
sorry meant 1980......in Cleveland |
Las Palabras De Amor 14.01.2005 23:25 |
Under Pressure at Wembley. I thought that one note he hit after keep comin up with love but it's so slashed and torn and he goes whyyyy or something but you could really hear the power in his voice. In the lap of the Gods at Wembley. |
Panza Pedraza - FER 15.01.2005 00:11 |
Escuderodelareina, gracias por la info.Y si soy argentino. De hecho el "panza pedraza" es un personaje radial muy conocido de la radio rock and pop, que es un villero que escucha cumbia en medio de un programa de rock. |
SomebodyWhoLoves 15.01.2005 05:53 |
Freddie's voice changed because he didn't sing as often as he did in the 70s. The vocal sound is created by muscles in the throat and vocal chords. When muscles are stressed and exercised, the vocal chords are able to get tighter and stronger. After the Game album, Freddie's voice was deep and he often had to yell with his chest voice to reach the high notes until his last record, Innuendo. It's not by coincidence because he stopped touring/recording annually. He took 2 years after the Game album to make Hot Space. And there were 2 year period between subsequent albums, Works, Magic, and his Opera CD. He also stopped touring after the magic tour so there was not much singing going on in the 80s compared to the 70s. Like an athlete, his voice suffered from the long periods of stagnation. Finally in Innuendo, he was sick with Aids so he must've sang a little bit everyday. By doing this, he was gradually building up his vocal strength until his voice was higher pitched, and he could more easily reach higher notes without "yelling". But you can tell that by his Innuendo album, his voice had, after years and years in the 80s of "yelling", suffered some damage and his voice had a ragged edge that he never had before in the 70s, and this was a permanent condition. Even in his song, These are the Days of Our lives, although he sang remarkably like his pre-80s period, he lost a little of his angelic sweetness quality to his voice. The voice is older, and a little faded. This is due to natural age, his AIDS disease, and also the aforementioned damage. Had he been healthy, and maintained his voice properly in the 80s, he probably could have sang as good as his The Game album with little deterioration. Vocally, Freddie was at his prime in his 70s, especially from the years 75-78. He had immense power in his earlier albums from 73-74 but he was still immature in his skills, and wasn't able to control his power to the degree he attained in the years 75-78. Often times, he'd shriek the high notes so it sounded a little pitchy. It was still angelically beautiful but raw. In his 1975 album, ANATO, he achieved his technical mastery and you can tell he attained supreme confidence. IMHO, his vocal mastery is most purely demonstrated in Bohemian Rhapsody. That piece was superb, exquisite and showcases his angelic voice perfectly. |
Frenchfroggy 15.01.2005 06:27 |
> Freddie's voice changed because he didn't sing as often as he did in the 70s. The vocal sound is created by muscles in the throat and vocal chords. When muscles are stressed and exercised, the vocal chords are able to get tighter and stronger. After the Game album, Freddie's voice was deep and he often had to yell with his chest voice to reach the high notes until his last record, Innuendo. It's not by coincidence because he stopped touring/recording annually. He took 2 years after the Game album to make Hot Space. And there were 2 year period between subsequent albums, Works, Magic, and his Opera CD. He also stopped touring after the magic tour so there was not much singing going on in the 80s compared to the 70s. Like an athlete, his voice suffered from the long periods of stagnation. I agree that his voice had become deeper and deeper in the 80s albums but still he was singing very well in the studio, even in the eighties. It is in concerts that the difference is the most noticeable however : in the 84-86 years, his voice is often very bad live and I was wondering whether the damaging of his voice from 1984 to the 1986 final touring could be linked with HIV or not...as there are been some rumors saying that he was positive as early as 1984... In the "Rare Live" videotape, there is "keep yourself alive" excerpts from 1974 and 1985...have a friend of yours who doesn't know anything Queen listen to it without watching, and I'm pretty convinced that he won't be able to tell you that it is the same man who sings this song in the two excerpts ! That's why the releasing of QOF is such a good news : fans can listen to a Freddie Mercury almost in his prime... |
SomebodyWhoLoves 15.01.2005 08:37 |
Frenchfroggy wrote: > Freddie's voice changed because he didn't sing as often as he did in the 70s. The vocal sound is created by muscles in the throat and vocal chords. When muscles are stressed and exercised, the vocal chords are able to get tighter and stronger. After the Game album, Freddie's voice was deep and he often had to yell with his chest voice to reach the high notes until his last record, Innuendo. It's not by coincidence because he stopped touring/recording annually. He took 2 years after the Game album to make Hot Space. And there were 2 year period between subsequent albums, Works, Magic, and his Opera CD. He also stopped touring after the magic tour so there was not much singing going on in the 80s compared to the 70s. Like an athlete, his voice suffered from the long periods of stagnation. I agree that his voice had become deeper and deeper in the 80s albums but still he was singing very well in the studio, even in the eighties. It is in concerts that the difference is the most noticeable however : in the 84-86 years, his voice is often very bad live and I was wondering whether the damaging of his voice from 1984 to the 1986 final touring could be linked with HIV or not...as there are been some rumors saying that he was positive as early as 1984... In the "Rare Live" videotape, there is "keep yourself alive" excerpts from 1974 and 1985...have a friend of yours who doesn't know anything Queen listen to it without watching, and I'm pretty convinced that he won't be able to tell you that it is the same man who sings this song in the two excerpts ! That's why the releasing of QOF is such a good news : fans can listen to a Freddie Mercury almost in his prime...You don't understand. Because he was not singing regularly, his voice got weaker. Even in the studio, where he is able to re-sing each line, he STILL sounds different from his 1970s era. You may think he is singing well, and I guess he is compared to other singers, but compared to his peak era, his voice is inferior. He lost his angelic quality, and often even in the studio, he is yelling rather than singing. Since his voice has changed, it doesn't matter whether it's the studio or in live concerts. His voice is weaker. Of course in live concerts, his weakened voice cannot stand the strain of singing high notes and it shows. He is struggling sometimes to reach even a G, which in the 70s, he could do with ease and without his chest voice. |
Frenchfroggy 17.01.2005 16:40 |
I agree but what I was trying to mean is that even though he had lost some angelic quality in the studio in the eighties, it was still Freddie's voice, easily recognizable by every one... But in concerts during the 84-86 period, sometimes he didn't even sound like Freddie Mercury at all ! If one compares his voice in "Live Killers" and in "Live at Wembley", one will wonder whether it is the same man who is singing in both concerts or not... Freddie's voice's decline is not that spectacular in the studio, but it is obvious in concerts after 1982 and the hot space tour. |
AndresGuazzelli 17.01.2005 22:34 |
I have to differ on some points: 1) Vocal cords, not chords :P LOL 2) Freddie never sang anything above Middle F# chestvoiced. As far as I have heard, his highest chestvoiced note is a Middle F in 'Barcelona' in the "IF GOD'S WILLING" part. Above Middle E, until High E, pure headvoice. |
Teo_torriate04 18.01.2005 03:54 |
Best studio performance 'You Take My Breath Away' Best live performance 'Spread Your Wings' from Live Killers. |
flash00 18.01.2005 13:09 |
funny nobody has mentioned the nasty painful growths(cant remember the name)... on freddie's vocal cords? these were the cause of freddie suffering during concerts, coupled with his 4o a day ciggie habbit which he said he smokes so many to try and get that raspy sound so to sound more soul- freddies voice was deffo at its most powerful during the eighties(very operatic) freddie used to still do concerts after being warned by docs about those bleeding/painful growths, just listen to live-aid then listen to a 70's gig, tim rice praised freds voice calling him a genius saying unlike puccini(composer) freddie could write like puccini then get up on the stage and sing it!!.....god i miss freddie when i yap on about him lol |
Frenchfroggy 18.01.2005 17:17 |
> freddies voice was deffo at its most powerful during the eighties(very operatic) Poweful, yes. But much less angelic, and he couldn't reach the high notes any more in concert. Grace was replaced by power in his voice, and I do prefer the first one as far as Freddie's voice is concerned. On a side note, his performance on "don't stop me now" immediately followed by "spread your wings" in Live killers is indeed superb. |