| Fenderek 25.08.2004 07:01 |
On every single album Queen released there were songs almost obvious to include into the stage show (i.e. TIE YOUR MOTHER DOWN), few that were tried (with different results- some stayed for longer in the set lists, some were played only few times...); and than there were always quite few they have never, ever played. Just wandering, listening to Miracle and Innuendo, which songs do you think wouldn't be definitely played and why and which on the other hand would be exellent in the live environment- from those two albums, if they toured... |
| Fenderek 25.08.2004 07:19 |
IMO those would be exellent live and pretty easy to adapt into stage act: Was It All Worth It, I Want It All, Headlong, I Can't Live With You, Innuendo, Breakthru, Miracle, The Show Must Go On, Scandal, Ride The Wild Wind; Chinese Torture would be incorporated into guitar solo... They would never play things like: Delilah, All God's People (difficulty), My Baby Does Me, Rain Must Fall, Don't Try So Hard (difficulty again, vocally)... I have my doubts about The Invisible Man as well... The other could be considered as possibilities, especially heavier things like Hitman, Party, Khashoggi's Ship, Hang On In There, but also These Are The Days Of Our Lives or I'm Going Slightly Mad... What do you think...? |
| Smartie 25.08.2004 09:28 |
I just can't imagine Queen playing Miracle/Innuendo- Songs live beacause they were written when Freddie knew that there will be no more tours and that he will die. I guess most of the songs especially on Innuendo wouldn't exist without Freddie's illness. No "Show must go on..." "These are the days of our lives" etc.. But I think "Headlong" is a song that Queen might have written also without Freddie's disease and would have performed live. |
| Libor2 25.08.2004 10:12 |
This is wouldbe question anyway, so I think we could imagine every song, couldn’t we ? I Want It All, Headlong, I Can’t Live With You, Ride The Wild Wind could be hottest candidates for me. The Show Must Go On should be there also, but it is very high written for live performance. So I vote for it with Roger help and some vocal line lowering. And I’m Going Slightly Mad would be IMO good live. Innuendo would be fine, but what with the middle part ? Cut it off or play it the same way as Bohemian Rhapsody operatic part ? It’d certainly be possible to do this middle part live some way, but it’d loose its magic IMO. I could imagine Hitman and Khashoggi's Ship. These Are Then Days Of Our Lives on spanish guitar could be interesting. With never played songs I agree with Lord Fender. |
| willem-jan 8923 25.08.2004 10:28 |
I guess all of there singles would be a possibility. Added to that: Kashoggi's ship, Hitman, Party. I would also have loved to hear Don't stop me now on the "Miraculous Innuendo tour". It's a pity they dropped it. One of my favorite live songs. |
| Maz 25.08.2004 10:40 |
I think by that point in their career, Queen would mainly stick to the singles for the live show, primarily since they would have so much territory to cover in a limited time. Snippets of Chinese Torture in a guitar solo might be possible, but I don't see Was It All Worth It or Ride The Wild Wind being included at all. |
| Fenderek 25.08.2004 11:57 |
"but I don't see Was It All Worth It or Ride The Wild Wind being included at all." I have a feeling that Brian wouldn't let such a great riff being left out of the show- maybe a snippet in some kind of a medley...? I can however agree on ride The Wild Wind not being played... I meant POSSIBILITY rather than WHAT IF HE DIDN'T DIE- let's say the songs are written and let's analize them considering our knowledge about Queen concerts (what were they like, etc.) and the way they were playing older songs on previous tours; could they adapt i.e. MY BABY DOES ME? Don't think so! Can't imagine them playing it between Hammer To Fall and Tie Your Mother Down... Same goes for ALL GOD'S PEOPLE- they would never recreate the vocal harmonies... Zeni said about them playing mostly singles- good point, I'm sure they would do that. But I have my doubts about THE INVISIBLE MAN for instance- can't really imagine Brian playing this solo live, what would they do with the bass... The song seems too sterile for me to be incorporated into the stage act... |
| Oberon 25.08.2004 12:20 |
I've always thought Breadthru would be fantastic live. Don't know why Brian or Roger haven't done it in their sets, but then the vocal is probably quite difficult, and even more of a Freddie vocal than others. I agree with the rest of you on the candidates for live songs. I think the Freddie tribute shows that they could do Innuendo justice as long as there were no hiccups with the mic level/forgotten lyrics! |
| Gunpowder Gelatine 25.08.2004 13:49 |
I Want It All would definitely be an obvious choice, but I think Scandal, The Miracle and Breakthru could work. As for Innuendo, if Freddie had still been healthy and touring, some of the songs wouldn't have been written, as Smartie said. But Innuendo, Headlong, I Can't Live With You, and possibly The Hitman would've gone over well. I think Don't Try So Hard would've been beautiful live; it kind of reminds me of Who Wants To Live Forever. |
| bitesthedust 25.08.2004 13:52 |
Roger included Ride The Wild Wind in some of solo sets.... |
| Fenderek 26.08.2004 09:41 |
On second thought- I can't really imagine SCANDAL being played live... i like the song very much, but... doesn't really fit into the live act they were playing over the years... Somehow I think it wouldn't work... |
| iGSM 26.08.2004 09:55 |
Absolutely. Scandal could be adapted and I think The Miracle would go tremendously. I can just see Freddie finishing off 'Seven Seas of Rhye' and running over to the piano for the beginning of The Miracle. |
| willem-jan 8923 26.08.2004 09:58 |
I remember that Breakthrough was on the list to be played at the Tribute, however for some reason it wasn't played. Would have liked to hear it. I think Brian played some of Chinese torture during the BR solo at his Barcelona appearance in 1992? |
| Guy 26.08.2004 10:07 |
Headlong and Breakthru would have been nice live, I suppose. |
| kohuept 26.08.2004 16:53 |
I think The Miracle would definitely have been added, but as part of the medley - kinda like BohRhap. Start it off, sing a couple verses go to KQ, Delilah could fit just to make a Freddie staccatto chord medley (bring back DoTL?). End with the "that time will....." IWiA is a must. InvMan may have shown up probably sounding a bit like Break Free. |
| Zander05 26.08.2004 21:08 |
Actually, I think that the bit from Innuendo "through the sorrows..." line would be mixed in with some groovey melody Queen would probably make up for the Miracle or Innuendo tour. I'm surprised I've never considered these songs to be played live before! That would ROCK! I think the melody would have gone something like this... Impromptu Was It All Worth It Ogre Battle Innuendo Chinese Torture/Princes of The Universe solo Was It All Worth It (reprise) I Want It All Innuendo (reprise - ending) Maybe it wouldn't go like that at all. But one can dream, right? |
| Queenrocks4579 26.08.2004 23:55 |
I think that Headlong, Ride The Wild Wind, The hitman, The Miracle, I want It all, Scandal, and The invisible man would be played. If you look at the songs queen often chose for touring they would most likely choose these ones because they would be crowd pleasing. Knowing that they always have a couple of slower songs dont try so hard might have been done but in a different way set for stage. |
| Maz 27.08.2004 00:31 |
iGSM wrote: I can just see Freddie finishing off 'Seven Seas of Rhye' and running over to the piano for the beginning of The Miracle.As can I, though I wonder if it's "feel good" message would have been saved for later in the show, a la Friends Will Be Friends. |
| iGSM 27.08.2004 01:55 |
RE: Invisible Man (Brian solo) That wouldn't be too hard would it? I thought it was just chromatic runs...or whatever it is. People were discussing it on here a couple of days ago. Of course it wouldn't sound like the studio version but the Bohemian Rhapsody guitar solo didn't sound like the studio version either. |
| Shane Jazz 27.08.2004 02:42 |
I imagine Breakthru would be the difficult one to pull off. Spike would probably have to play a synth bass to complement John's bass. Kinda like Body Language, on the one or two live versions I have heard of it. I wonder if they would have sung the A New Life is Born intro, like they did on It's a Hard Life. The big question is: would they open the show with I Want it All, or save it for after BoRhap, in the same way that TYMD kept the momentum going.... |
| iGSM 27.08.2004 03:40 |
I'd probably say Ride the Wild Wind would open. You know.. *cheers* *louder cheers* Ride the wild wind (Live life on the razors edge) hey hey hey> *fog and the guys emerge* That's the studio version...then Freddie begins to sing. Also the HEY HEY HEY parts later on that sound like a crowd could be done by the crowd at the stadium. Hopefully they'd've come back to Australia. |
| Fenderek 27.08.2004 05:04 |
One more thing- IF Freddie was still touring by 1989/91, he would be older than during MAGIC TOUR... he wouldn't want to run around the stage endlessly, right? Maybe therefore they'd have came back to songs dropped from MAGIC, the ones with piano, like STL, Play The Game and the likes...? And finally visited Poland...? :) |
| Fenderek 27.08.2004 05:07 |
Queenrocks4579 wrote: If you look at the songs queen often chose for touring they would most likely choose these ones because they would be crowd pleasing.And that's exactly why I have my doubts about SCANDAL and THE INVISIBLE MAN- both without easy to sing-a-long choruses and both without this "rock" dynamic taht for instance HEADLONG or I WANT IT ALL have... |
| iGSM 27.08.2004 05:52 |
I reckon our Freddie would still have given some of the newer bands back then a run for their money. |
| Monte: Liquorice Years 27.08.2004 05:57 |
maybe "was it all worth it" because its a song about their lives and was it worth being a rock star (which thankfully freddie answers, yes it was!!!) they would play party for certain (well, they'd want to!) and songs with heavy riffs, or ones where people can sing along to! They wouldnt play Ride The Wild Wind (damn it!) i love that song, but it'd be too hard to reproduce on stage! |
| Fenderek 27.08.2004 06:07 |
Wouldn't "WAS IT ALL WORTH IT" make a great opener? with this amazing taped intro...!!! and than one of the best riffs ever recorded by Brian! Much better opener than One Vision, for instance! |
| iGSM 27.08.2004 06:19 |
I guess not. I can't exactly remember how Ride the Wild Wind sounds. Something heavy would open a concert. Maybe a stab U2. Freddie: Those guys are useless fuckers, aren't they? YEAH! HIT IT, BRIAN! |
| Flo Joe 27.08.2004 10:10 |
I would agree that was it all worth is would be a great opener!!! I could imagine them to include Party (but I don't think it would really work) Kashoggi (in the first part of the show) The Miracle (could have been a highlight!) I want it all (worked well at Brian's Tour '98) Breakthru' Was it all worth it (KILLER!!) Chinese Torture (was also used by Brian '98) Innuendo (liked it at the Tribute) Headlong (very cool in Brian's set!) Ride the Wild Wind (Roger's Version was very good) Days of our lives Hitman Show must go on Maybe for invisible man they would have to change the arrangement. I would have loved to see Scandal, but would it have been a crowd pleaser for the 'normal' audience? |
| Adam Baboolal 27.08.2004 11:18 |
monte wrote: They wouldnt play Ride The Wild Wind (damn it!) i love that song, but it'd be too hard to reproduce on stage!Eh? Definitely one of the easiest Queen songs. Not hard to reproduce at all. Peace, Adam. |
| iGSM 27.08.2004 11:29 |
Maybe the racing car sounds would be difficult. And possibly the 'hey, hey, hey's. |
| mbecker 27.08.2004 18:54 |
Why stop with Innuendo? How about Made in Heaven?There's some great songs on there that could be used on tour:how about the following Made In Heaven Let Me Live I Was Born To Love You Heaven For Everyone Too Much Love Will Kill You Don't Fool Me |
| Zander05 28.08.2004 02:04 |
I imagine that Let Me Live would be too hard to do live. What, with a choir and all. Somebody To Love was possible to do on stage. But this choir was more of a gospel-type and I don't think Brian and Roger could do that kind of singing. |
| Shane Jazz 28.08.2004 02:28 |
I could imagine Too Much Love Will Kill You being performed on stage in a very similar style to that of Save Me. Brian would start the song on the piano (and not the keyboard used on the MIH version), switch to guitar during the heavier bits, then Freddie finishes up on piano. |
| Flo Joe 28.08.2004 04:05 |
Talking about Made in Heaven songs performed live feels very strange to me, as there are various songs that would not exist as Queen songs if Freddie would still be alive... But if we put this aside I would say: Let me live (would be difficult) Mother Love I was born to love you To much Love will kill you You don't fool me |