MisterCosmicc 27.03.2020 01:22 |
Imagine if Adam cut back on the screaming, the clothes, and ugly hair styled and formed a pop/rock BAND, with pop/rock musicians, and no more working with bubblegum pop / rap producers? Then he’d have something great going for him. His fans should tell him to form a band. It’s what he needs! I’ve noticed the song writers he works with basically give him filler. He’d be so much better off in a band with actual musicians who enjoy writing music. I’ve noticed some of Adam’s hardcore fans don’t enjoy some of his new stuff... but still they push to promote it with more streams and more YouTube views (just read AdamTopia). If you’re not enjoying it, why promote it? Someone needs to steer Adam in the right direction. He has potential. |
matt z 27.03.2020 02:28 |
My two cents. I just think the dude is a pop singer and really hasn't had all the traditional underpinnings of a songwriter. It's not just the fact that he's a studio product for a giant media biz, It's just the way it is. But hey, Bill Withers and Otis Redding both got late starts in their singing/writing. Who the hell knows Just bored and trying to respond amicably without jokes ...maybe he'll front BAD COMPANY whenever Paul Rodgers retires. |
MisterCosmicc 27.03.2020 04:21 |
matt z wrote: ...maybe he'll front BAD COMPANY whenever Paul Rodgers retires.Wouldn’t that be funny if that happened? Sniffy, SweetCaroline, and Rockchic will tell us how much they have loved them since day one. |
MisterCosmicc 27.03.2020 04:23 |
matt z wrote: My two cents. I just think the dude is a pop singer and really hasn't had all the traditional underpinnings of a songwriter. It's not just the fact that he's a studio product for a giant media biz, It's just the way it is.That’s what I mean, though. He needs a band with actual songwriters, and in the right music category. It’s almost as if right now, he doesn’t give a fuck on what kind of music he creates. There’s not much thought into it. He could absolutely release good music with the right songwriters and someone to guide him in the right direction. People say Adam tries not to be Freddie, but in my opinion, he does what he does while performing with Queen because of Freddie. The theatrics, holding long notes. It’s as if he tries too hard, and now it’s just expected. |
rockchic65 27.03.2020 09:12 |
MisterCosmicc wrote: Imagine if Adam cut back on the screaming, the clothes, and ugly hair styled and formed a pop/rock BAND, with pop/rock musicians, and no more working with bubblegum pop / rap producers? Then he’d have something great going for him. His fans should tell him to form a band. It’s what he needs! I’ve noticed the song writers he works with basically give him filler. He’d be so much better off in a band with actual musicians who enjoy writing music. I’ve noticed some of Adam’s hardcore fans don’t enjoy some of his new stuff... but still they push to promote it with more streams and more YouTube views (just read AdamTopia). If you’re not enjoying it, why promote it? Someone needs to steer Adam in the right direction. He has potential.Ok I'll bite, what's the deal with you and Adam, you spend most of your time calling him all sorts, you go on about how he looks, make up, whatever but yet seem pissed that he doesn't do what you think he should. Usually only people who care about someone or care if they are successful would be bothered about him not doing things "right" or think what he should/could be doing different. Very contradictory. In answer to what you actually said his fans if they've followed him long enough know better than to TELL him anything, he hates being told what to do. This album is what he wanted to make and whether other people like it or not he's happy with it, the people he worked with didn't give him filler they worked WITH him and he chose how he wanted things to sound so the buck stops with him, he wasn't given songs to make the best of from a record label this time it's all down to him so if you think it's rubbish fair enough you just don't like his vision or style of songs/singing. And as I've pointed out before he couldn't form a band even if he wanted to while he's working with Brian & Roger, no band would be willing to wait around and only work here and there while he went off touring with QAL, he'd have to commit to it 100% and he couldn't do that currently. I personally couldn't see him doing that anyway but it's not an option at the moment. |
rockchic65 27.03.2020 09:14 |
MisterCosmicc wrote:Nah, Bad Company and Free are ok, like some of their well known songs but can't pretend I've really looked into their back catalogue. Last band in the world he'd be fronting so it won't ever come to that thankfully.matt z wrote: ...maybe he'll front BAD COMPANY whenever Paul Rodgers retires.Wouldn’t that be funny if that happened? Sniffy, SweetCaroline, and Rockchic will tell us how much they have loved them since day one. |
Iron Butterfly 27.03.2020 10:18 |
I think he needs better music, producers, songs, writers etc. |
rockchic65 27.03.2020 10:33 |
Iron Butterfly wrote: I think he needs better music, producers, songs, writers etc.He's happy with the music he's doing, the producers and co-writers he hand picked and the songs they co-wrote, anyone not liking it is free to not listen the same as with any other artist, he's doing this for himself not to fit some kind of criteria other people think he should. |
Iron Butterfly 27.03.2020 11:00 |
rockchic65 wrote:He's happy now...when he is trying to push the album. Who knows if he'll be happy about Velvet in a few years time?Iron Butterfly wrote: I think he needs better music, producers, songs, writers etc.He's happy with the music he's doing, the producers and co-writers he hand picked and the songs they co-wrote, anyone not liking it is free to not listen the same as with any other artist, he's doing this for himself not to fit some kind of criteria other people think he should. He was happy about his other music...while he was trying to promote and push it. Turns out he wasn't so happy after all. |
Deaky. 27.03.2020 13:10 |
Ok so Adam Lambert does need to get a band together and stop making himself famous because of Queen. He needs to get decent song writers in to write hi a decent tune as his albums are clueless and he has no musical direction whatsoever. I have been saying this for years Lambert is so insecure he will not branch out on his own he is constantly reliant on Queen to make him a name. |
Holly2003 27.03.2020 13:30 |
Enigma wrote: Ok so Adam Lambert does need to get a band together and stop making himself famous because of Queen. He needs to get decent song writers in to write hi a decent tune as his albums are clueless and he has no musical direction whatsoever. I have been saying this for years Lambert is so insecure he will not branch out on his own he is constantly reliant on Queen to make him a name.So what? I'd do it too. Milk that Queen cow just as Brian and Roger are doing. Then after it's over I'd retire with all my money, pay some heavies to put you in a cage beside my swimming pool, and flick peanuts at you all day. |
Deaky. 27.03.2020 13:36 |
Oh yummy i like peanuts ! |
brENsKi 27.03.2020 14:23 |
Enigma wrote: Oh yummy i like peanuts !but these peanuts will be on fire |
Deaky. 27.03.2020 16:24 |
I am ok with hot tastes! |
MisterCosmicc 27.03.2020 20:40 |
rockchic65 wrote:He acts foolish and could release much better music. Does he release what he wants? I don’t think he cares about what type of music he releases. Someone should steer him in the right direction.MisterCosmicc wrote: Imagine if Adam cut back on the screaming, the clothes, and ugly hair styled and formed a pop/rock BAND, with pop/rock musicians, and no more working with bubblegum pop / rap producers? Then he’d have something great going for him. His fans should tell him to form a band. It’s what he needs! I’ve noticed the song writers he works with basically give him filler. He’d be so much better off in a band with actual musicians who enjoy writing music. I’ve noticed some of Adam’s hardcore fans don’t enjoy some of his new stuff... but still they push to promote it with more streams and more YouTube views (just read AdamTopia). If you’re not enjoying it, why promote it? Someone needs to steer Adam in the right direction. He has potential.Ok I'll bite, what's the deal with you and Adam, you spend most of your time calling him all sorts, you go on about how he looks, make up, whatever but yet seem pissed that he doesn't do what you think he should. Usually only people who care about someone or care if they are successful would be bothered about him not doing things "right" or think what he should/could be doing different. Very contradictory. In answer to what you actually said his fans if they've followed him long enough know better than to TELL him anything, he hates being told what to do. This album is what he wanted to make and whether other people like it or not he's happy with it, the people he worked with didn't give him filler they worked WITH him and he chose how he wanted things to sound so the buck stops with him, he wasn't given songs to make the best of from a record label this time it's all down to him so if you think it's rubbish fair enough you just don't like his vision or style of songs/singing. And as I've pointed out before he couldn't form a band even if he wanted to while he's working with Brian & Roger, no band would be willing to wait around and only work here and there while he went off touring with QAL, he'd have to commit to it 100% and he couldn't do that currently. I personally couldn't see him doing that anyway but it's not an option at the moment. I’ve never mentioned his makeup. |
matt z 28.03.2020 04:50 |
rockchic65 wrote:Yeaaah.... I was just joking. U know... "keeping it in the family"... Since Paul fronted "Queen +" for some time, and "he was Freddies favorite singer" it falls to logic that "Adam" would be "Paul's favorite singer".... if he retired or croaked.MisterCosmicc wrote:Nah, Bad Company and Free are ok, like some of their well known songs but can't pretend I've really looked into their back catalogue. Last band in the world he'd be fronting so it won't ever come to that thankfully.matt z wrote: ...maybe he'll front BAD COMPANY whenever Paul Rodgers retires.Wouldn’t that be funny if that happened? Sniffy, SweetCaroline, and Rockchic will tell us how much they have loved them since day one. Just being facetious..I couldn't resist it. BTW: FREE had 3 fantastic albums.. 2 are incredible. I'm not so fond of Bad Company.. they were very MOR rock. But Paul Rodgers has a fantastic voice despite the general corniness of some of that Bad Co stuff. As for AL... I haven't bothered listening to any of his stuff since "trespassing" which I downloaded one time and ran through a week... wasn't much I could care for but I tried. at least it was a little more rock ish. Still very bland seeming though. I *DID* like hearing Brian and Roger doing "Two Fux" on the last tour I attended. |
Brancelli 28.03.2020 05:13 |
Don’t know if the original poster is trolling or not, but this is absolutely true. Just listen to the Citizen Vein stuff they wrote as a band. Was raw, but with the right band Adam could’ve really shined with original material. link |
rockchic65 28.03.2020 06:30 |
Iron Butterfly wrote:He's never said he wasn't happy with all his other music at all he just wasn't happy with the songs the label wanted to release as singles and the way they tried to push him to tone himself down and fit some mould they had in mind and some of the songs they pushed on him that wouldn't have been his choice.rockchic65 wrote:He's happy now...when he is trying to push the album. Who knows if he'll be happy about Velvet in a few years time? He was happy about his other music...while he was trying to promote and push it. Turns out he wasn't so happy after all.Iron Butterfly wrote: I think he needs better music, producers, songs, writers etc.He's happy with the music he's doing, the producers and co-writers he hand picked and the songs they co-wrote, anyone not liking it is free to not listen the same as with any other artist, he's doing this for himself not to fit some kind of criteria other people think he should. The difference this time is he made all the decisions on the music, look, everything so there's no reason to not be happy with it, it's his vision. |
rockchic65 28.03.2020 06:36 |
MisterCosmicc wrote:Of course he cares about what type of music he releases, he's wanted to do his own thing since day one and with this project that's exactly what he did, the fact you don't like it is irrelevant, it's his vision and he's happy with it so that's what matters to him.rockchic65 wrote:He acts foolish and could release much better music. Does he release what he wants? I don’t think he cares about what type of music he releases. Someone should steer him in the right direction. I’ve never mentioned his makeup.MisterCosmicc wrote: Imagine if Adam cut back on the screaming, the clothes, and ugly hair styled and formed a pop/rock BAND, with pop/rock musicians, and no more working with bubblegum pop / rap producers? Then he’d have something great going for him. His fans should tell him to form a band. It’s what he needs! I’ve noticed the song writers he works with basically give him filler. He’d be so much better off in a band with actual musicians who enjoy writing music. I’ve noticed some of Adam’s hardcore fans don’t enjoy some of his new stuff... but still they push to promote it with more streams and more YouTube views (just read AdamTopia). If you’re not enjoying it, why promote it? Someone needs to steer Adam in the right direction. He has potential.Ok I'll bite, what's the deal with you and Adam, you spend most of your time calling him all sorts, you go on about how he looks, make up, whatever but yet seem pissed that he doesn't do what you think he should. Usually only people who care about someone or care if they are successful would be bothered about him not doing things "right" or think what he should/could be doing different. Very contradictory. In answer to what you actually said his fans if they've followed him long enough know better than to TELL him anything, he hates being told what to do. This album is what he wanted to make and whether other people like it or not he's happy with it, the people he worked with didn't give him filler they worked WITH him and he chose how he wanted things to sound so the buck stops with him, he wasn't given songs to make the best of from a record label this time it's all down to him so if you think it's rubbish fair enough you just don't like his vision or style of songs/singing. And as I've pointed out before he couldn't form a band even if he wanted to while he's working with Brian & Roger, no band would be willing to wait around and only work here and there while he went off touring with QAL, he'd have to commit to it 100% and he couldn't do that currently. I personally couldn't see him doing that anyway but it's not an option at the moment. There's no steering him, try telling his dad that and see his response lol, even he treads on eggshells and knows better than to tell him anything. You might think you know what's best for him and I've no doubt some of his fans think they know best as well, there's plenty would have loved him to do different music or an album of covers etc but they know it will never happen unless he suddenly decides that's what HE want's to do. |
rockchic65 28.03.2020 06:44 |
matt z wrote:Yeah I knew you were joking, I do like Paul's voice just never really checked any deeper into his work than the commercial songs I've heard for some reason.rockchic65 wrote:Yeaaah.... I was just joking. U know... "keeping it in the family"... Since Paul fronted "Queen +" for some time, and "he was Freddies favorite singer" it falls to logic that "Adam" would be "Paul's favorite singer".... if he retired or croaked. Just being facetious..I couldn't resist it. BTW: FREE had 3 fantastic albums.. 2 are incredible. I'm not so fond of Bad Company.. they were very MOR rock. But Paul Rodgers has a fantastic voice despite the general corniness of some of that Bad Co stuff. As for AL... I haven't bothered listening to any of his stuff since "trespassing" which I downloaded one time and ran through a week... wasn't much I could care for but I tried. at least it was a little more rock ish. Still very bland seeming though. I *DID* like hearing Brian and Roger doing "Two Fux" on the last tour I attended.MisterCosmicc wrote:Nah, Bad Company and Free are ok, like some of their well known songs but can't pretend I've really looked into their back catalogue. Last band in the world he'd be fronting so it won't ever come to that thankfully.matt z wrote: ...maybe he'll front BAD COMPANY whenever Paul Rodgers retires.Wouldn’t that be funny if that happened? Sniffy, SweetCaroline, and Rockchic will tell us how much they have loved them since day one. I like odd songs off Trespassing (Chokehold) is my favourite but I actually prefer him doing most stuff live than the studio versions tbh, he changes stuff up more live and obviously having real instruments is better than the over processed versions on the albums, at least for me. I never heard Two Fux live but I really don't like the recorded version, not a song I ever took to at all. His new album is very different to the other stuff he's done, mostly real instruments rather than electronic and I do like the funky bass on most of the songs but the two ballads are my favourites (Closer To You and Feel Something). |
rockchic65 28.03.2020 06:49 |
Brancelli wrote: Don’t know if the original poster is trolling or not, but this is absolutely true. Just listen to the Citizen Vein stuff they wrote as a band. Was raw, but with the right band Adam could’ve really shined with original material. linkYeah I do think he'd have been great with a band but it's clearly not something he really wanted to do, he does seem to prefer being a solo artist and whilever he's doing the QAL stuff he couldn't have a band anyway, can't imagine they'd be willing to just wait around while he went off touring with Brian & Roger. I'd love his next album to be more rock based personally but I guess we'll just see what he comes up with, my bet is he'll put out odd songs here and there over the next year or so rather than work on another album straight away. |
Deaky. 28.03.2020 07:31 |
Lambert is not doing himself any favours been stuck in Queen, because that will stick with him now forever and lets face it he has blew his solo career away now because of it. He is clueless as to what type of music is him. If he just stuck to been original and stop trying to be other people in his songs and get decent song writers in maybe he will go top 20 in the Uk singles chart! |
brENsKi 28.03.2020 10:01 |
SaddleBrownwhy should YOU give a flying fuck "what favours he's doing himself? you've often said how much you hate him. Oh, Gerry has spoken and AL will heed his pearls of jizzdom? SaddleBrownutterly clueless comment. sorry but it is. succeeding someone else in a major rock back does not harm someone's career. Bon Scott >> Brian Johnson = AC/DC went from being a popular rock band to becoming biggest rock band on planet Ian Gillan >> David Coverdale = Coverdale went on to front Whitesnake - who were huge worldwide Ozzy Osbourne >> Ronnie Dio = leaves Rainbow, joins Sabbs, successful, forms own band - more commercial success. Also, while we're on this topic - people can also break with what they know - venture elsewhere and be successful - often more so. All FOUR Beatles >> were successful after 1970 - ALL earning much more in the 1970s than they ever did during the 1960s (while in the world's biggest band) Ozzy Osbourne >> has been much more successful solo than he ever was in Sabbath. - 30+ years of record sales and tours. Peter Gabriel >> he left Genesis, chose his own career path - enjoyed much greater success than 1970s Genesis - without "selling out" like 80s Genesis in the process. Sammy Hagar >> singer in two big rock bands - but has enjoyed success solo. Robert Plant >> doing so well/enjoying his non-Zep projects, that in 2014 he reportedly tore up a proposed $800m contract to reform Zep. - yep - the second biggest grossing rock act of all time. There is no stigma, and it doesn't necessarily "commit" the artist to only ever doing one thing. Some artists are happy to stay where they are, others do spread their wings. SaddleBrownseriously? not a bit of it. he's happy doing what he's doing - he's earning a nice living doing what he loves - singing. i wouldn't call that "clueless" - "clued up" more like SaddleBrownhere you go again, Gerry. you don't ever stop to think before hitting your keyboard do you? he is being original. he is being himself. you've spent forever slagging the guy off - calling him a "fat tranny", "tw*t", "talent-less clown" and similar, and NOW you claim he could have top 20 hits with decent song-writers. you contradict yourself - by conviently ignoring your own historical commentary. |
Deaky. 28.03.2020 11:46 |
Brenski I am not arguing again with you over my comments so get over yourself - goodbye. |
brENsKi 28.03.2020 14:14 |
Enigma wrote: Brenski I am not arguing again with you over my comments so get over yourself - goodbye.well you clearly are. otherwise you wouldn't bother to reply at all. prove it. don't reply. again. |
anadamfan 28.03.2020 15:12 |
Brancelli wrote: Don’t know if the original poster is trolling or not, but this is absolutely true. Just listen to the Citizen Vein stuff they wrote as a band. Was raw, but with the right band Adam could’ve really shined with original material. linkTrue. But no one in the music industry cared. There are thousands of similar bands. Why should they give a band with a singer, who wears nail polish and makeup a chance? Their music was only released after Adam had become famous. |
brENsKi 28.03.2020 17:02 |
SaddleBrownBTW - i really like your new username. very sad day that, blue crashed killing 21 of 22 on board. i had no idea you had such a detailed interest in the history of passenger air travel. |
MisterCosmicc 28.03.2020 18:59 |
anadamfan wrote:Adam’s well known now. He could form a band again.Brancelli wrote: Don’t know if the original poster is trolling or not, but this is absolutely true. Just listen to the Citizen Vein stuff they wrote as a band. Was raw, but with the right band Adam could’ve really shined with original material. linkTrue. But no one in the music industry cared. There are thousands of similar bands. Why should they give a band with a singer, who wears nail polish and makeup a chance? Their music was only released after Adam had become famous. |
matt z 28.03.2020 19:52 |
Pretty sure the dates signify FM's birthdate. But may be misconstrued owing to the differing ways dates are spelled er represented in different countries. Here it's day/month/year while in much of the UK and abroad it can be month/day/year And for data retention I've seen it year/day/month. Anyways prob last comment here. Those Citizen Vein photos. ..Lambert looks like Gary Numan's chubby bastard son. If i get enough boredom and space on my hands maybe I'll listen |
andyrouda 09.07.2020 14:36 |
I don't know if I'm the only one who cringe at seeing someone else in queen who isn't Freddie, you know? |
MisterCosmicc 09.07.2020 22:13 |
Bongos |
MisterCosmicc 09.07.2020 22:19 |
I’m surprised Adam isn’t on Hollywood Records like Queen are. Hollywood Records even has a spot on their page about QAL. |
SweetCaroline 10.07.2020 22:29 |
So Adam has done both. He has been a flamboyant frontman for Queen and he has been the lead singer for a 4 person backing band! He has even traveled to China and performed with a house band. Who else has done all of that? Adam Levine? Paul Hewson? |
SweetCaroline 10.07.2020 22:43 |
By the way, if Adam is never remembered for anything else, I think he will always be remembered for this magnificent performance: link |
MisterCosmicc 11.07.2020 20:51 |
SweetCaroline wrote: By the way, if Adam is never remembered for anything else, I think he will always be remembered for this magnificent performance: linkMost people never heard it. Also, everyone knows him for either American Idol or Queen. |