no_stairway 18.06.2019 21:48 |
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Fireplace 18.06.2019 21:56 |
Great, I voted for Don't Try Suicide and it counted for Don't Lose Your Head. Rigged :-) |
no_stairway 18.06.2019 21:58 |
Many years i see dozens topics and polls on queenzone about the least favourite songs so i thought it would be funny to decide which of them is the best :) |
mariah carey 18.06.2019 22:09 |
Cool Cat shouldn't be here. it's certainly better than Life is Real or Put Out The Fire |
Spidzzle 19.06.2019 01:18 |
put out the fire is great |
matt z 19.06.2019 01:25 |
mariah carey wrote: Cool Cat shouldn't be here. it's certainly better than Life is Real or Put Out The FireYeah. That's why it got my vote, because it's a complete and DIFFERENT non filler song and one of the best on the album. Otherwise my vote was Rain Must Fall way before I even saw the list. Expected Loser in the End there as well. Also Sweet Lady. But hey. If we were voting of the worst there'd we'd be here all day! ;-) |
stevelondon20 19.06.2019 06:29 |
I voted for Fun It. |
dysan 19.06.2019 06:50 |
I have good relationships with a few of those, but Cool Cat for me too. Smooth, slick and sexy. |
dudeofqueen 19.06.2019 09:31 |
"Don't Try Suicide"; has a great live ambience to it, ESPECIALLY Rogers drum roll introduction to the instrumental. "Delilah" is absolutely the worst kind of shit that has EVER been committed to tape - even lower on the register than "The Birdie Song" or "Aga-Do". |
thomasquinn 32989 19.06.2019 09:35 |
I honestly can't understand how anyone can hear ANY redeeming qualities in Cool Cat. I hear NOTHING that is REMOTELY listenable in that piece of crap. I voted Calling All Girls. Not a good song, but not nearly as bad as the other crimes against music listed, except perhaps Fun It. |
dysan 19.06.2019 10:13 |
We're all different and have different experiences which lead us to like different things. It's nice. |
thomasquinn 32989 19.06.2019 10:17 |
True, but I reiterate: I honestly don't get it. There is plenty of music I don't like where I can understand why others might like it, but I can't hear anything in Cool Cat that I can imagine anyone appreciating. |
Holly2003 19.06.2019 10:21 |
None of these songs is as bad as Chinese Torture, which is almost unlistenable. link |
Holly2003 19.06.2019 10:27 |
In Cool Cat Fred's falsetto is perfectly executed, but still hard to listen to. He should have sung it in his lowest register, imitating Barry White. Now that would've been something to look forward to. |
dysan 19.06.2019 10:39 |
I thought Chinese Torture would've worked nicely segued into Party at the start of The Miracle. Good old fashioned Queen album start. But yeah, could've been better given the elements that make it. For me, Cool Cat takes me back to a 1982 I didn't really experience. It's largely a nostalgic romp through the hits of those days and memories of our old house. It's odd that a tune I didn't hear at the time evokes images of that long lost past. Lifting a dreamy veil off happy carefree days playing with Lego and Star Wars figures, walking the dog as my older sister bopped to the New Romantics. Musically, again IMO, It's mainly the singing and slow groove. I DID hate it for years in the same way My Baby Does Me was (and still is) a total 'skipper'. Add to that a story my friend told me of hearing it in early 80s - erm... 'black' clubs which lots of very very tough gangster types slow dancing to it. Of course, if they found it it was a gay man singing the DJ would've been lynched. Stealin' and Lost Opportunity get my vote as worst of the worst. |
dysan 19.06.2019 10:39 |
I know, I know. It's a cool story bro. |
Holly2003 19.06.2019 10:50 |
Regarding Cool Cat and nostalgia, it's likely the same effect as Crazy Little Thing Called Love. It evokes nostalgia for the 1950s even among those who were born too late to experience that decade. |
mariah carey 19.06.2019 11:25 |
Cool Cat is glorious. It also could have been released as single. |
dysan 19.06.2019 12:06 |
I agree. I would've been a bold choice but worth a shot. |
no_stairway 19.06.2019 13:03 |
So now we have the hot space tracks leading! And even without chinese torture the miracle tracks are sinking. |
aristide1 19.06.2019 13:10 |
thomasquinn 32989 wrote: I honestly don't get it. There is plenty of music I don't like where I can understand why others might like it, but I can't hear anything in Cool Cat that I can imagine anyone appreciating. thomasquinn 32989 wrote: That's the whole point - you can't imagine it. This has nothing to do with the music in question, and everything with your utter inability or refusal to consider anything that falls outside your comfort zone.The Strange Case of Dr. Thomas and Mr. Quinn. |
thomasquinn 32989 19.06.2019 13:40 |
dysan wrote: For me, Cool Cat takes me back to a 1982 I didn't really experience. It's largely a nostalgic romp through the hits of those days and memories of our old house. It's odd that a tune I didn't hear at the time evokes images of that long lost past. Lifting a dreamy veil off happy carefree days playing with Lego and Star Wars figures, walking the dog as my older sister bopped to the New Romantics. Musically, again IMO, It's mainly the singing and slow groove. I DID hate it for years in the same way My Baby Does Me was (and still is) a total 'skipper'.Ok, that I can understand - pleasant associations can attach themselves to even the most dismal of songs. I have something similar with a syrupy-sweet cover of Mockingbird Hill that happened to be constantly on the radio during a spring and summer in my early childhood that comes with good memories. Still, those are not attributes of the song in question, in your case or mine, but of our own past. It still amazes me that Cool Cat has a small but devoted following that insists it's a good song - I just can't hear it. It's technically difficult to sing, and it's a different style from anything else on Hot Space (or elsewhere in Queen's catalog) but I still think it's poorly executed and sorely lacking in all manner of qualities, from lyrics to production to arrangement. |
thomasquinn 32989 19.06.2019 13:40 |
aristide1 wrote:Yes dear, that's very nice. Now go play, adults are talking.thomasquinn 32989 wrote: I honestly don't get it. There is plenty of music I don't like where I can understand why others might like it, but I can't hear anything in Cool Cat that I can imagine anyone appreciating.thomasquinn 32989 wrote: That's the whole point - you can't imagine it. This has nothing to do with the music in question, and everything with your utter inability or refusal to consider anything that falls outside your comfort zone.The Strange Case of Dr. Thomas and Mr. Quinn. |
dudeofqueen 19.06.2019 13:58 |
dysan, re: >I thought Chinese Torture would've worked nicely segued into Party at the start of The Miracle. ......or had people returning it to the shops as "faulty" before getting to Track 3. |
matt z 19.06.2019 14:04 |
You must mean *Dr Quinn: Medicine Woman I think it's the production of Cool Cat that wins out on it. It's pure swank but handled with gifted subtlety. Just listen to the demo (*although unmixed) w Bowie on it. It hardly sounds the same. As a piece of minimalist lounge music it's really a great song. I'm not so much talking about Freddies voice either. More about the way each instrument plugs in at parts to emphasis. The first time the keys walk at "feeling the beat of my heart" (where Bowie drops in on the demo, talking) right to the Deacon triple notes emphasizing bits in that point. I really love the space between the notes and the fact that they pulled off a vibe with so little. But, it is what it is. I STILL can't really stand STAYING POWER. I've even tried to imagine another group rearranging it. It really is a mess and people have pointed out it's similarity to Zeps OUT ON THE TILES. ..but neither "rock", or "funk" I think without the ARIF MARDIN horn section the whole thing is essentially a wreck of a cocaine nightmare of a song "And this is the part where it gets bigger, and then here's the part where it goes down and then back up again! And then i come in with falsetto!" (Everybody else) ..... well. ...that sounds ambitious. But where's the musical part of this, Fred? Point is: everybody's got a different take on it. I can imagine an alternate world where if COOL CAT had appeared on BOWIE's TONIGHT or NEVER LET ME DOWN albums it'd be sung to high praise. Instead it's just a gem for fans left at the end of an album |
dysan 19.06.2019 14:23 |
Weirdly, Tonight gives me the same memories I've described for Hot Space. |
mariah carey 19.06.2019 14:31 |
matt z wrote: You must mean *Dr Quinn: Medicine Woman I think it's the production of Cool Cat that wins out on it. It's pure swank but handled with gifted subtlety. Just listen to the demo (*although unmixed) w Bowie on it. It hardly sounds the same. As a piece of minimalist lounge music it's really a great song. I'm not so much talking about Freddies voice either. More about the way each instrument plugs in at parts to emphasis. The first time the keys walk at "feeling the beat of my heart" (where Bowie drops in on the demo, talking) right to the Deacon triple notes emphasizing bits in that point. I really love the space between the notes and the fact that they pulled off a vibe with so little. But, it is what it is. I STILL can't really stand STAYING POWER. I've even tried to imagine another group rearranging it. It really is a mess and people have pointed out it's similarity to Zeps OUT ON THE TILES. ..but neither "rock", or "funk" I think without the ARIF MARDIN horn section the whole thing is essentially a wreck of a cocaine nightmare of a song "And this is the part where it gets bigger, and then here's the part where it goes down and then back up again! And then i come in with falsetto!" (Everybody else) ..... well. ...that sounds ambitious. But where's the musical part of this, Fred? Point is: everybody's got a different take on it. I can imagine an alternate world where if COOL CAT had appeared on BOWIE's TONIGHT or NEVER LET ME DOWN albums it'd be sung to high praise. Instead it's just a gem for fans left at the end of an albumYou perfectly described it. Cool Cat is an incredible song. I love Staying Power though, it's a very good pop song |
mariah carey 19.06.2019 14:31 |
mariah carey wrote:matt z wrote: You must mean *Dr Quinn: Medicine Woman I think it's the production of Cool Cat that wins out on it. It's pure swank but handled with gifted subtlety. Just listen to the demo (*although unmixed) w Bowie on it. It hardly sounds the same. As a piece of minimalist lounge music it's really a great song. I'm not so much talking about Freddies voice either. More about the way each instrument plugs in at parts to emphasis. The first time the keys walk at "feeling the beat of my heart" (where Bowie drops in on the demo, talking) right to the Deacon triple notes emphasizing bits in that point. I really love the space between the notes and the fact that they pulled off a vibe with so little. But, it is what it is. I STILL can't really stand STAYING POWER. I've even tried to imagine another group rearranging it. It really is a mess and people have pointed out it's similarity to Zeps OUT ON THE TILES. ..but neither "rock", or "funk" I think without the ARIF MARDIN horn section the whole thing is essentially a wreck of a cocaine nightmare of a song "And this is the part where it gets bigger, and then here's the part where it goes down and then back up again! And then i come in with falsetto!" (Everybody else) ..... well. ...that sounds ambitious. But where's the musical part of this, Fred? Point is: everybody's got a different take on it. I can imagine an alternate world where if COOL CAT had appeared on BOWIE's TONIGHT or NEVER LET ME DOWN albums it'd be sung to high praise. Instead it's just a gem for fans left at the end of an albumYou perfectly described it. Cool Cat is incredible. I love Staying Power though, it's a very good pop song |
mariah carey 19.06.2019 14:31 |
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dysan 19.06.2019 14:33 |
I just like their weird albums. Jazz and Hot Space really are a welcome step away from what the casual punter would think of as the Queen vibe. Same reason I dig Party. I mean, WTF was going on there? |
mariah carey 19.06.2019 14:33 |
matt z wrote: You must mean *Dr Quinn: Medicine Woman I think it's the production of Cool Cat that wins out on it. It's pure swank but handled with gifted subtlety. Just listen to the demo (*although unmixed) w Bowie on it. It hardly sounds the same. As a piece of minimalist lounge music it's really a great song. I'm not so much talking about Freddies voice either. More about the way each instrument plugs in at parts to emphasis. The first time the keys walk at "feeling the beat of my heart" (where Bowie drops in on the demo, talking) right to the Deacon triple notes emphasizing bits in that point. I really love the space between the notes and the fact that they pulled off a vibe with so little. But, it is what it is. I STILL can't really stand STAYING POWER. I've even tried to imagine another group rearranging it. It really is a mess and people have pointed out it's similarity to Zeps OUT ON THE TILES. ..but neither "rock", or "funk" I think without the ARIF MARDIN horn section the whole thing is essentially a wreck of a cocaine nightmare of a song "And this is the part where it gets bigger, and then here's the part where it goes down and then back up again! And then i come in with falsetto!" (Everybody else) ..... well. ...that sounds ambitious. But where's the musical part of this, Fred? Point is: everybody's got a different take on it. I can imagine an alternate world where if COOL CAT had appeared on BOWIE's TONIGHT or NEVER LET ME DOWN albums it'd be sung to high praise. Instead it's just a gem for fans left at the end of an albumYou perfectly described it. Cool Cat is incredible. I love Staying Power though, it's a very good pop song |
dysan 19.06.2019 14:37 |
That said, Party and Staying Power are hand in hand as album 'intros' suggesting the first part of a larger whole. On the Miracle the journey from Party through to WIAWI is great - although flawed by the album being seemingly short and not the whole 'kitchen sink' deal having a throw away like Party as track 1 suggests. Same with Hot Space. SP is like - GET READY! but the album kind of falls a bit flat because the last 3rd kind of fizzles out. Which is weird considering it has one of their biggest songs right at the end. |
no_stairway 19.06.2019 15:08 |
matt z, cool words about cool cat - really nice, totaly agree/ speaking about staying power, did you hear this cover? link |
KJ 19.06.2019 15:09 |
I voted Calling all girls, but I actually like that song a lot! As for the Cool Cat discussion, I have to agree with thomasquin. For many songs that I don't like, I can Always think of a part in that song that I can somehow enjoy. The guitarsolo in Delilah, the outro of Rain must fall. But nothing comes up for Cool Cat. Maybe they should have used the Bowie singing parts in it |
cmsdrums 19.06.2019 15:19 |
I hated Cool Cat when I was young and naive. Now I appreciate it for a glorious slice of laid back summery funk soul it is, with superb bass and guitar from John, and outside 'You Take My Breath Away', possibly Freddie's greatest falsetto vocal (if only he'd be so tasteful on 'One Year of Love'!) My Baby Does Me is actually in a similar vein but not as timeless, but still with it's merits, and I quite like Rain Must Fall, despite some questionable lyrics - it has however not dated well. Worst Queen song for me is not even listed...'She Makes Me'.....incredibly tuneless dirge! |
cmsdrums 19.06.2019 15:22 |
Duplicate post |
dysan 19.06.2019 15:37 |
"hated Cool Cat when I was young and naive. Now I appreciate it for a glorious slice of laid back summery funk soul it is," Agreed |
dysan 19.06.2019 15:39 |
I mean 'same'. Initial dislike because it was boring. Then I grew and widened my palette and came running back to it with great appreciation. |
bucsateflon 19.06.2019 19:47 |
"My baby does me" is top class, worthy of "Hot Space" although by 1989 it sounded a bit retro. |
goose44 19.06.2019 22:29 |
Fun it and don’t lose your head Jazz rules, especially tracks 1-7. Gets slightly weaker after but I listen to this album the most as it’s fun and rocking. Maybe not their best creatively but that does not matter. |
gandorb 19.06.2019 23:13 |
I like Calling All Girls, and have never seen it as an embarrassment to the band like Staying Power. |
matt z 20.06.2019 00:26 |
no_stairway wrote: matt z, cool words about cool cat - really nice, totaly agree/ speaking about staying power, did you hear this cover? linkOh yeah. I was at that gig. Posted about it here on that night. On another version i can be heard suggesting the song COOL CAT when they were announcing a song nobody would likely know. Haha. I'm just glad they film these things. Tried recording from phone but my phone truly sucks. Always love those SOUNDCHECK gigs and most gigs they do there are pretty pro. If only one didn't have to work ;) Btw Tom Morello's doing one there this weekend. Some music student thing. I'm pretty sure this thing with Nuno and Gary was in between QAL gigs and Brian was in the back of the crowd. The night they did BoRhap with a motion choir onstage. Brian was hopefulto play TYMD but did not. Bump? |
Bo Alex 20.06.2019 13:40 |
Cool Cat is a fantastic song. I would not put it on a worst songs list. |
no_stairway 20.06.2019 18:16 |
matt z "I was at that gig. Posted about it here on that night" - now i see how i knew about that, thanks for posting! :) you were there - lucky you're :) i also didn't know that soundcheck gigs are a regular thing. And after all you still don't like "staying power"? :) i thought that night could change your opinion :) |
Khizzy 20.06.2019 21:15 |
Rain Must Fall is the best on that list, and it's a song I really enjoy listening to even though it is a bit dated these days. It's got a nice, upbeat feel with some lovely synth work and production. I also love Brian's guitars on the song too, particularly the solo. If I had to choose another song off that list it would be Calling All Girls, a decent song from a fairly average (by their standards) Queen album. |
Galileo1564 21.06.2019 04:19 |
I tried to vote for Cool Cat, but there was one fewer radio button than songs, so I think my vote went to Calling All Girls. And I don’t think Cool Cat belongs on the list. Of the rest, I’d pick Delilah. Not a song I get up in the morning and think hey why don’t I listen to Delilah, but I never skip it either. |
dysan 21.06.2019 06:55 |
Agree about Delilah. I do occasionally listen to it for the scary 'MEOWWW' bit. Classic Queen. |
MisterCosmicc 21.06.2019 12:53 |
thomasquinn 32989 wrote: I honestly can't understand how anyone can hear ANY redeeming qualities in Cool Cat. I hear NOTHING that is REMOTELY listenable in that piece of crap. I voted Calling All Girls. Not a good song, but not nearly as bad as the other crimes against music listed, except perhaps Fun It.Calling All Girls is so bland. So forgettable. |
dysan 21.06.2019 13:00 |
Except the video. I love that. |
MisterCosmicc 21.06.2019 13:01 |
dysan wrote: Except the video. I love that.Yes, the video is great! |
no_stairway 21.06.2019 13:22 |
dysan: Except the video. I love that - Roger abides. |
Invisible Woman 22.06.2019 07:25 |
Rain Must Fall. But I voted for Delilah because I think that Rain Must Fall isn't a part of their worst songs. And I like Delilah :) |
placeboasis 22.06.2019 12:01 |
I love Calling All Girls and Don't Try Suicide. |
matt z 22.06.2019 19:41 |
I wonder if anybody got the THX reference in CALLING ALL GIRLS. I don't think outside of media students at the time, it had much impact or notoriety. Whose idea was it? It's not mentioned in the Greatest Flix commentaries |
aristide1 24.06.2019 10:41 |
A H. P. Lovecraft Historical Society cover of Calling All Girls would be great, I feel this song works better in a darker key. In fact a whole Scary Queen album would be interesting and fun. "Ludo Fore Putavimus". Can you translate for us thomasquinn? |
Sunshine 25.06.2019 08:00 |
Great poll...I choose Fun It. I just really like the track...it's werid in a good way, typical Taylor track. |
HelloDelilah 26.06.2019 08:41 |
Delilah is such a cute and fun song...after all she’s Freddie's favorite. :) |
Seed_Of_Rhy 26.06.2019 14:11 |
For me the worst from that list are: Delilah, My baby Does Me, Fun it. And I wonder why the TS doesn't mention such shitgems like Sleepin on a Sidewalk, Comin Soon or Lost Opportunity IMHO, SOaS and CS are much more teddious and overall lousy than even Delilah |