QueenZone discussion #1530821

Anton3283 wrote: He is a gay here is answer

EllaMc wrote: PR was quite good (even when he forgot the lyrics or stopped singing.) He certainly had the street cred that got him past a lot of fan resistance. However, it wasn't a great match. I think it was killing his voice by the end. I do think he was the type of musician that worked well, and I fear there won't be a load of new songs from this pairing (though I've been pleasantly surprised by a couple of the Queen-ed up AL songs I've heard.) Beyond that, there's something -- I'm not sure -- something different and yet familiar in the AL combo. It does feel like the guys like him a lot, which is nice. I'm very new to Q+AL, and I resisted greatly, but then I heard a medley on someone else's car stereo. I was shocked to learn it was AL. I then went and listened -- really listened to recent Q+AL concerts. My heart warmed instantly. There's a spirit there. He's making the songs his own, but he's not changing original keys (at least not often) and he's staying faithful to much of the contours from the Freddie era. I honestly feel he's done a great job with a seriously rough situation. I feel like if 1) he wasn't from the US, 2) wasn't from a talent TV show and 3) had worked his way to this situation some other way (god knows how that would've happened -- it wouldn't and we wouldn't have live Queen shows now) he'd face far less resistance. His stage banter makes me cringe sometimes, but his singing rarely does. He colors his own color, but within the Queen lines - a nice situation. Also as a fan from the 70s, I really love the way there's a whole new generation or two or three finding this music. Now if only they'd change up the shows a bit from night to night...

runner_70 wrote: Anyone calling themselves rockchic and preferring a westend Karaoke parrott to a legend like PR is delusional. So please gtfo

rockchic65 wrote:

Anton3283 wrote: He is a gay here is answer

Why would him being gay make them more successful?

SpaceGrey wrote:

rockchic65 wrote:

Anton3283 wrote: He is a gay here is answer

Why would him being gay make them more successful?

Because Freddie was gay and in Queen will be only gay singers because

rockchic65 wrote:

SpaceGrey wrote:

rockchic65 wrote:

Anton3283 wrote: He is a gay here is answer

Why would him being gay make them more successful?

Because Freddie was gay and in Queen will be only gay singers because

Not really seeing why the singer would need to be gay but the fact Adam is camp, flamboyant and theatrical may make people think he's closer in persona to Freddie than Paul was.

runner_70 wrote: As far as i a remember it was billed as "Queen plus PR" and as PR has an amazing back catalogue it was only logical to play his songs. It was expected. QAL is also billed as "plus" but as the annoying tool has nothing to offer besides musical crimes like Two Fux or Lucy Maylor try so sell this westend cabaret fronted by a tranny as full Queen show. Which is utterly ridiculous. QPR had equal if not more success in Europe. In cologne QPR played in front of 25000 ppl in the stadium there while QAL played in front of embarrassing 15000. In Europe noone gives a shit about lamberace. The ppl would come even if Kermit fronted them. Kermit would be a better choice than Lamebird

SweetCaroline wrote: I can’t find a link for it but I was just playing a video in a tweet showing a TV station interview with Neil Fairclough, bass player for QAL. He was describing how Adam works in rehearsals while learning something new, maybe holding back 50%. And how then he gives 100% in every performance and how their jaws drop open in awe with what he does on that stage! Final word from Neil: “he’s a good lad!”

runner_70 wrote: Freddie never had rhe " look I am the gayest guy in town" attitude. He wasa musician. Lamebert is a karaoke twat

runner_70 wrote: What you expect him to say? That he sucks which he does and Neil knows. He is getting his cheque for playing and as compensation for having to endure Lamebird screeching night after night

rockchic65 wrote:

runner_70 wrote: Freddie never had rhe " look I am the gayest guy in town" attitude. He wasa musician. Lamebert is a karaoke twat

In the 80's he dropped the more camp look but back in the 70's Freddie had his share of gay looking clothes and mannerisms, need I remind you of the red sequinned playsuit he wore in Tokyo, not to mention all the leotards etc.

runner_70 wrote: On stage you hardly see Neil as he is standing in the shadwos. So how you know? Anyone with sense hates tools like Lamebird. But a good paycheque changes mids sometimes

rockchic65 wrote:

SpaceGrey wrote:

rockchic65 wrote:

Anton3283 wrote: He is a gay here is answer

Why would him being gay make them more successful?

Because Freddie was gay and in Queen will be only gay singers because

Not really seeing why the singer would need to be gay but the fact Adam is camp, flamboyant and theatrical may make people think he's closer in persona to Freddie than Paul was.

SweetCaroline wrote: I can’t find a link for it but I was just playing a video in a tweet showing a TV station interview with Neil Fairclough, bass player for QAL. He was describing how Adam works in rehearsals while learning something new, maybe holding back 50%. And how then he gives 100% in every performance and how their jaws drop open in awe with what he does on that stage! Final word from Neil: “he’s a good lad!”

Iron Butterfly wrote: PR and AL made their marks in Q+ in different ways. I like how Q+PR was more rock. Straight up classic rock concerts. Q+AL is more theatrical. I can't see PR crawling around the floor, wearing a coronet for example. Both have their pros and cons. At the end of the day, I prefer Q+PR.

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote: PR and AL made their marks in Q+ in different ways. I like how Q+PR was more rock. Straight up classic rock concerts. Q+AL is more theatrical. I can't see PR crawling around the floor, wearing a coronet for example. Both have their pros and cons. At the end of the day, I prefer Q+PR.

I agree they're very different, I like Paul with Free and Bad Company, I don't listen to loads of their stuff but I like some and his voice suits that style of music I just wasn't keen on it for a lot of the Queen stuff.

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote: PR and AL made their marks in Q+ in different ways. I like how Q+PR was more rock. Straight up classic rock concerts. Q+AL is more theatrical. I can't see PR crawling around the floor, wearing a coronet for example. Both have their pros and cons. At the end of the day, I prefer Q+PR.

I agree they're very different, I like Paul with Free and Bad Company, I don't listen to loads of their stuff but I like some and his voice suits that style of music I just wasn't keen on it for a lot of the Queen stuff.

rockchic65 wrote:

SpaceGrey wrote:

rockchic65 wrote:

Anton3283 wrote: He is a gay here is answer

Why would him being gay make them more successful?

Because Freddie was gay and in Queen will be only gay singers because

Not really seeing why the singer would need to be gay but the fact Adam is camp, flamboyant and theatrical may make people think he's closer in persona to Freddie than Paul was.

SweetCaroline wrote: “Big up AL alert .....” And not a day goes by that nasty icy doesn’t love to tear him down!

SpaceGrey wrote: Where do you see theatricality in what they do with Lambert? Theatricality ended when Freddie died. Now this is only posturing.

runner_70 wrote: Can you change your name to "westend Lamberace chick" then as every ROCK fan prefers PR. Lamebird is a dance parrott pretending to be a Rocker and coming across as an absolutely manufactured unbelievable twat

Iron Butterfly wrote:

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote: PR and AL made their marks in Q+ in different ways. I like how Q+PR was more rock. Straight up classic rock concerts. Q+AL is more theatrical. I can't see PR crawling around the floor, wearing a coronet for example. Both have their pros and cons. At the end of the day, I prefer Q+PR.

I agree they're very different, I like Paul with Free and Bad Company, I don't listen to loads of their stuff but I like some and his voice suits that style of music I just wasn't keen on it for a lot of the Queen stuff.

I hear you. It took me a while to get used to hearing and watching him sing Queen songs. At the end of the day, I'm glad Q+PR happened. I'm just sorry it ended the way it did.

rockchic65 wrote:

runner_70 wrote: Can you change your name to "westend Lamberace chick" then as every ROCK fan prefers PR. Lamebird is a dance parrott pretending to be a Rocker and coming across as an absolutely manufactured unbelievable twat

Not every rock fan, like I've previously said you have a very biased opinion and live in a bubble where you don't see the reality.

Iron Butterfly wrote: I hear you. It took me a while to get used to hearing and watching him sing Queen songs. At the end of the day, I'm glad Q+PR happened. I'm just sorry it ended the way it did.

rockchic65 wrote:

SpaceGrey wrote: Where do you see theatricality in what they do with Lambert? Theatricality ended when Freddie died. Now this is only posturing.

That might be your opinion, I see them differently.

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote: I hear you. It took me a while to get used to hearing and watching him sing Queen songs. At the end of the day, I'm glad Q+PR happened. I'm just sorry it ended the way it did.

I don't really know what happened at the end, Brian & Roger just always say it was great but it came to a natural conclusion but I suspect there was more to it although I doubt we'll ever get the true story.

runner_70 wrote:

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote: I hear you. It took me a while to get used to hearing and watching him sing Queen songs. At the end of the day, I'm glad Q+PR happened. I'm just sorry it ended the way it did.

I don't really know what happened at the end, Brian & Roger just always say it was great but it came to a natural conclusion but I suspect there was more to it although I doubt we'll ever get the true story.

SweetCaroline wrote: “@NoaDomenech We always lsiten to Brian and Roger praising Adam but here's Neil talking about him #neilfairclough #qal #queen #adamlambert #queenberts #glamberts”

Iron Butterfly wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: “Big up AL alert .....” And not a day goes by that nasty icy doesn’t love to tear him down!

SpaceGrey wrote:

rockchic65 wrote:

SpaceGrey wrote:

rockchic65 wrote:

Anton3283 wrote: He is a gay here is answer

Why would him being gay make them more successful?

Because Freddie was gay and in Queen will be only gay singers because

Not really seeing why the singer would need to be gay but the fact Adam is camp, flamboyant and theatrical may make people think he's closer in persona to Freddie than Paul was.

Where do you see theatricality in what they do with Lambert? Theatricality ended when Freddie died. Now this is only posturing.

SweetCaroline wrote: Still waiting to hear which QAL shows the trolls in this forum have been to.

rockchic65 wrote:

SpaceGrey wrote:

rockchic65 wrote:

Anton3283 wrote: He is a gay here is answer

Why would him being gay make them more successful?

Because Freddie was gay and in Queen will be only gay singers because

Not really seeing why the singer would need to be gay but the fact Adam is camp, flamboyant and theatrical may make people think he's closer in persona to Freddie than Paul was.

runner_70 wrote: She promised you tickets if you rave about the annoying tool???

Queenman!! wrote: Well most singers that are way camp , flamboyant and theatrical happen to be gay. For certain it’s more accepted to be What you are. Look at all these gender movements nowadays. It’s Just the way it is and it seems to work with Queen to deliver the songs to an audience with Adam.

Iron Butterfly wrote:

runner_70 wrote: She promised you tickets if you rave about the annoying tool???

She was tired of me never having seen the show in person, so basically that's the reason she wanted me to take her up on her 'offer' rather bribe. I'm sure if I took her up on it, she would have wanted me to have loved every little thing about it. Here is what she posted in the screen grab...and I can assure you there would have been countless strings attached if I went. She wants and needs glowing stuff to be said, posted and especially for AL. Clear to anyone who has read her posts on QOL and QZ. I don't like to be beholden to anyone, especially when the meaning behind it wasn't genuine.

runner_70 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

runner_70 wrote: She promised you tickets if you rave about the annoying tool???

She was tired of me never having seen the show in person, so basically that's the reason she wanted me to take her up on her 'offer' rather bribe. I'm sure if I took her up on it, she would have wanted me to have loved every little thing about it. Here is what she posted in the screen grab...and I can assure you there would have been countless strings attached if I went. She wants and needs glowing stuff to be said, posted and especially for AL. Clear to anyone who has read her posts on QOL and QZ. I don't like to be beholden to anyone, especially when the meaning behind it wasn't genuine.

Seems she made a (lame) joke but I would niot rule aout because of her mental state that she really meant it

SweetCaroline wrote: I see I wrote that on my deceased husband’s birthday so I was being particularly generous that day. But that would have been a grave mistake because I really know nothing about you and it is best to keep it that way.

SweetCaroline wrote: I see I wrote that on my deceased husband’s birthday so I was being particularly generous that day. But that would have been a grave mistake because I really know nothing about you and it is best to keep it that way.

rockchic65 wrote: I'd agree pretty much with all of that. I also think the fact they had to mix quite a bit of Paul's music in the shows since there were various Queen songs his voice either wouldn't suit or he didn't have the range for probably made it too different from a Queen show for some unless they happened to be a Free/Bad Company fan as well. He has a great voice but it's more bluesy rock.

SweetCaroline wrote: How did people FORCE It’s Late and Spread Your Wings off of the set list?

Mr Mercury wrote: Paul originally wanted to do full shows with only Queen music in it. It was Brian and Roger's idea to include some of his.

SweetCaroline wrote: How did people FORCE It’s Late and Spread Your Wings off of the set list?

The Real Wizard wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: How did people FORCE It’s Late and Spread Your Wings off of the set list?

Easy. Because most bands don't want to look at blank faces not knowing the songs. They dropped the tunes in 1980 for the same reason they dropped them now - because they're a hits band, not an albums band. At that time they realized their audience was changing, and came to the realization that endures until now, that most people don't know the album tracks. Greatest Hits went 8x platinum in the US, while their next best selling albums are NOTW and The Game at 4x platinum each. In the UK, Greatest Hits went 20x platinum, while the next best selling album is Made In Heaven at 4x platinum. This is why 90% of their setlist is hits. They're not going to play too many tunes that half the audience doesn't know.

Iron Butterfly wrote:

The Real Wizard wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: How did people FORCE It’s Late and Spread Your Wings off of the set list?

Easy. Because most bands don't want to look at blank faces not knowing the songs. They dropped the tunes in 1980 for the same reason they dropped them now - because they're a hits band, not an albums band. At that time they realized their audience was changing, and came to the realization that endures until now, that most people don't know the album tracks. Greatest Hits went 8x platinum in the US, while their next best selling albums are NOTW and The Game at 4x platinum each. In the UK, Greatest Hits went 20x platinum, while the next best selling album is Made In Heaven at 4x platinum. This is why 90% of their setlist is hits. They're not going to play too many tunes that half the audience doesn't know.

This is why I wish AL and casual music fans who go to Q+AL concerts fans would at least dig deeper in the Queen catalogue, because there are some hidden gems in there. I was shocked when IP and SYW was added, and I ended up liking it, and was sad when it was dropped so fast.

anadamfan wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

The Real Wizard wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: How did people FORCE It’s Late and Spread Your Wings off of the set list?

Easy. Because most bands don't want to look at blank faces not knowing the songs. They dropped the tunes in 1980 for the same reason they dropped them now - because they're a hits band, not an albums band. At that time they realized their audience was changing, and came to the realization that endures until now, that most people don't know the album tracks. Greatest Hits went 8x platinum in the US, while their next best selling albums are NOTW and The Game at 4x platinum each. In the UK, Greatest Hits went 20x platinum, while the next best selling album is Made In Heaven at 4x platinum. This is why 90% of their setlist is hits. They're not going to play too many tunes that half the audience doesn't know.

This is why I wish AL and casual music fans who go to Q+AL concerts fans would at least dig deeper in the Queen catalogue, because there are some hidden gems in there. I was shocked when IP and SYW was added, and I ended up liking it, and was sad when it was dropped so fast.

All Adam fans, that I know, LOVED the addition of SYW and IL. They were as disappointed by QAL dropping them than the Queen fans. You can read it on all the Adam forums. I’ve never heard anything else but disappointment about that. We might not have known them before, but that doesn’t mean, we can appreciate these songs VERY fast and sing along. The people not appreciating them were casual concert goers. Glamberts love to hear Adam sing -and these songs were absolutely gems in the set! No Glamberts runs for the restroom, when Adam sings a ballad. ;)

Iron Butterfly wrote:

anadamfan wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

The Real Wizard wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: How did people FORCE It’s Late and Spread Your Wings off of the set list?

Easy. Because most bands don't want to look at blank faces not knowing the songs. They dropped the tunes in 1980 for the same reason they dropped them now - because they're a hits band, not an albums band. At that time they realized their audience was changing, and came to the realization that endures until now, that most people don't know the album tracks. Greatest Hits went 8x platinum in the US, while their next best selling albums are NOTW and The Game at 4x platinum each. In the UK, Greatest Hits went 20x platinum, while the next best selling album is Made In Heaven at 4x platinum. This is why 90% of their setlist is hits. They're not going to play too many tunes that half the audience doesn't know.

This is why I wish AL and casual music fans who go to Q+AL concerts fans would at least dig deeper in the Queen catalogue, because there are some hidden gems in there. I was shocked when IP and SYW was added, and I ended up liking it, and was sad when it was dropped so fast.

All Adam fans, that I know, LOVED the addition of SYW and IL. They were as disappointed by QAL dropping them than the Queen fans. You can read it on all the Adam forums. I’ve never heard anything else but disappointment about that. We might not have known them before, but that doesn’t mean, we can appreciate these songs VERY fast and sing along. The people not appreciating them were casual concert goers. Glamberts love to hear Adam sing -and these songs were absolutely gems in the set! No Glamberts runs for the restroom, when Adam sings a ballad. ;)

That's good to know. Do AL fans run to bathroom when Brian does his guitar solo? Joking there, honest as it's a running joke that even Queen fans run for the restroom during the solo.

anadamfan wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

anadamfan wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

The Real Wizard wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: How did people FORCE It’s Late and Spread Your Wings off of the set list?

Easy. Because most bands don't want to look at blank faces not knowing the songs. They dropped the tunes in 1980 for the same reason they dropped them now - because they're a hits band, not an albums band. At that time they realized their audience was changing, and came to the realization that endures until now, that most people don't know the album tracks. Greatest Hits went 8x platinum in the US, while their next best selling albums are NOTW and The Game at 4x platinum each. In the UK, Greatest Hits went 20x platinum, while the next best selling album is Made In Heaven at 4x platinum. This is why 90% of their setlist is hits. They're not going to play too many tunes that half the audience doesn't know.

This is why I wish AL and casual music fans who go to Q+AL concerts fans would at least dig deeper in the Queen catalogue, because there are some hidden gems in there. I was shocked when IP and SYW was added, and I ended up liking it, and was sad when it was dropped so fast.

All Adam fans, that I know, LOVED the addition of SYW and IL. They were as disappointed by QAL dropping them than the Queen fans. You can read it on all the Adam forums. I’ve never heard anything else but disappointment about that. We might not have known them before, but that doesn’t mean, we can appreciate these songs VERY fast and sing along. The people not appreciating them were casual concert goers. Glamberts love to hear Adam sing -and these songs were absolutely gems in the set! No Glamberts runs for the restroom, when Adam sings a ballad. ;)

That's good to know. Do AL fans run to bathroom when Brian does his guitar solo? Joking there, honest as it's a running joke that even Queen fans run for the restroom during the solo.

I never run to a restroom during a show, if I can help it. And since I try to stand as close to the stage as possible, I won’t risk to loose my place. The only people leaving, that I remember, where middle aged men, who ran for a beer. ;)

Iron Butterfly wrote:

anadamfan wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

anadamfan wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

The Real Wizard wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: How did people FORCE It’s Late and Spread Your Wings off of the set list?

Easy. Because most bands don't want to look at blank faces not knowing the songs. They dropped the tunes in 1980 for the same reason they dropped them now - because they're a hits band, not an albums band. At that time they realized their audience was changing, and came to the realization that endures until now, that most people don't know the album tracks. Greatest Hits went 8x platinum in the US, while their next best selling albums are NOTW and The Game at 4x platinum each. In the UK, Greatest Hits went 20x platinum, while the next best selling album is Made In Heaven at 4x platinum. This is why 90% of their setlist is hits. They're not going to play too many tunes that half the audience doesn't know.

This is why I wish AL and casual music fans who go to Q+AL concerts fans would at least dig deeper in the Queen catalogue, because there are some hidden gems in there. I was shocked when IP and SYW was added, and I ended up liking it, and was sad when it was dropped so fast.

All Adam fans, that I know, LOVED the addition of SYW and IL. They were as disappointed by QAL dropping them than the Queen fans. You can read it on all the Adam forums. I’ve never heard anything else but disappointment about that. We might not have known them before, but that doesn’t mean, we can appreciate these songs VERY fast and sing along. The people not appreciating them were casual concert goers. Glamberts love to hear Adam sing -and these songs were absolutely gems in the set! No Glamberts runs for the restroom, when Adam sings a ballad. ;)

That's good to know. Do AL fans run to bathroom when Brian does his guitar solo? Joking there, honest as it's a running joke that even Queen fans run for the restroom during the solo.

I never run to a restroom during a show, if I can help it. And since I try to stand as close to the stage as possible, I won’t risk to loose my place. The only people leaving, that I remember, where middle aged men, who ran for a beer. ;)

Do you try to stand for the full show? That's something I don't think I could manage. Men and their beer, right ;-).

The Real Wizard wrote:

Mr Mercury wrote: Paul originally wanted to do full shows with only Queen music in it. It was Brian and Roger's idea to include some of his.

Interesting. Is there an interview where one of the guys states that?

anadamfan wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

anadamfan wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

anadamfan wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

The Real Wizard wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: How did people FORCE It’s Late and Spread Your Wings off of the set list?

Easy. Because most bands don't want to look at blank faces not knowing the songs. They dropped the tunes in 1980 for the same reason they dropped them now - because they're a hits band, not an albums band. At that time they realized their audience was changing, and came to the realization that endures until now, that most people don't know the album tracks. Greatest Hits went 8x platinum in the US, while their next best selling albums are NOTW and The Game at 4x platinum each. In the UK, Greatest Hits went 20x platinum, while the next best selling album is Made In Heaven at 4x platinum. This is why 90% of their setlist is hits. They're not going to play too many tunes that half the audience doesn't know.

This is why I wish AL and casual music fans who go to Q+AL concerts fans would at least dig deeper in the Queen catalogue, because there are some hidden gems in there. I was shocked when IP and SYW was added, and I ended up liking it, and was sad when it was dropped so fast.

All Adam fans, that I know, LOVED the addition of SYW and IL. They were as disappointed by QAL dropping them than the Queen fans. You can read it on all the Adam forums. I’ve never heard anything else but disappointment about that. We might not have known them before, but that doesn’t mean, we can appreciate these songs VERY fast and sing along. The people not appreciating them were casual concert goers. Glamberts love to hear Adam sing -and these songs were absolutely gems in the set! No Glamberts runs for the restroom, when Adam sings a ballad. ;)

That's good to know. Do AL fans run to bathroom when Brian does his guitar solo? Joking there, honest as it's a running joke that even Queen fans run for the restroom during the solo.

I never run to a restroom during a show, if I can help it. And since I try to stand as close to the stage as possible, I won’t risk to loose my place. The only people leaving, that I remember, where middle aged men, who ran for a beer. ;)

Do you try to stand for the full show? That's something I don't think I could manage. Men and their beer, right ;-).

I usually buy a standing ticket, so yes, I stand for the whole show and more. I always try to get to a venue around 5 pm. There I meet up with friends or other fans and wait for the doors to open. Then I choose a nice spot to stand. Depending on the artist, you can even get to the front. I managed to do that at my last QAL show. The doors opened about two hours before the concert. Then I had to wait on that spot, where an older lady and some very young Brian fangirls were always pushing from behind. My friend and I would have never made it back, had we left. But it’s all worth it! I had an incredible experience! I even managed to get a handshake from Adam and was only about 2-3 meters away from the band for long stretches of the concert, while I had a great view. :)

Iron Butterfly wrote:

anadamfan wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

anadamfan wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

anadamfan wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

The Real Wizard wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: How did people FORCE It’s Late and Spread Your Wings off of the set list?

Easy. Because most bands don't want to look at blank faces not knowing the songs. They dropped the tunes in 1980 for the same reason they dropped them now - because they're a hits band, not an albums band. At that time they realized their audience was changing, and came to the realization that endures until now, that most people don't know the album tracks. Greatest Hits went 8x platinum in the US, while their next best selling albums are NOTW and The Game at 4x platinum each. In the UK, Greatest Hits went 20x platinum, while the next best selling album is Made In Heaven at 4x platinum. This is why 90% of their setlist is hits. They're not going to play too many tunes that half the audience doesn't know.

This is why I wish AL and casual music fans who go to Q+AL concerts fans would at least dig deeper in the Queen catalogue, because there are some hidden gems in there. I was shocked when IP and SYW was added, and I ended up liking it, and was sad when it was dropped so fast.

All Adam fans, that I know, LOVED the addition of SYW and IL. They were as disappointed by QAL dropping them than the Queen fans. You can read it on all the Adam forums. I’ve never heard anything else but disappointment about that. We might not have known them before, but that doesn’t mean, we can appreciate these songs VERY fast and sing along. The people not appreciating them were casual concert goers. Glamberts love to hear Adam sing -and these songs were absolutely gems in the set! No Glamberts runs for the restroom, when Adam sings a ballad. ;)

That's good to know. Do AL fans run to bathroom when Brian does his guitar solo? Joking there, honest as it's a running joke that even Queen fans run for the restroom during the solo.

I never run to a restroom during a show, if I can help it. And since I try to stand as close to the stage as possible, I won’t risk to loose my place. The only people leaving, that I remember, where middle aged men, who ran for a beer. ;)

Do you try to stand for the full show? That's something I don't think I could manage. Men and their beer, right ;-).

I usually buy a standing ticket, so yes, I stand for the whole show and more. I always try to get to a venue around 5 pm. There I meet up with friends or other fans and wait for the doors to open. Then I choose a nice spot to stand. Depending on the artist, you can even get to the front. I managed to do that at my last QAL show. The doors opened about two hours before the concert. Then I had to wait on that spot, where an older lady and some very young Brian fangirls were always pushing from behind. My friend and I would have never made it back, had we left. But it’s all worth it! I had an incredible experience! I even managed to get a handshake from Adam and was only about 2-3 meters away from the band for long stretches of the concert, while I had a great view. :)

That's impressive. I'm glad you had an incredible experience.Happy for you.

runner_70 wrote: ....then there are those who are real queen fans and hate this cabaret act. The better option than seeing those two clowns embarrassing themselves

philip storey wrote: I don't know why Brian and Roger really want to carry on touring,it can't possibly be for the money they are both absolutely minted.i went to see Queen with AL at Birmingham ,the arena is a pig to get to in the middle of Birmingham.I was embarrsed by what I saw,quite frankly it was awfull.I bought Queen 1 when I was 10 years old and fell in love with the band.I went with a friend who thought it was great ,it made things worse.Brian and Roger have made a real balls up of things since the passing of Freddie.The reason QPR folded was tension between Paul and Brian.

philip storey wrote: I don't know why Brian and Roger really want to carry on touring,it can't possibly be for the money they are both absolutely minted.i went to see Queen with AL at Birmingham ,the arena is a pig to get to in the middle of Birmingham.I was embarrsed by what I saw,quite frankly it was awfull.I bought Queen 1 when I was 10 years old and fell in love with the band.I went with a friend who thought it was great ,it made things worse.Brian and Roger have made a real balls up of things since the passing of Freddie.The reason QPR folded was tension between Paul and Brian.

snifflese wrote: I don't think how long you have been in business or how old you are necessarily means you are more moldable. Adam is pretty stubborn from all I have read and some of his gaffes have come from the fact that he doesn't allow people to dictate to him It might have been better in hindsight had he listened, but that is water under the bridge. He has walked away from record labels because he was not going to do what they wanted. He also wasn't a kid when he started touringwith Queen in 2014. He was already 32 and been in the music business in many different ways since he was 18. I think he is a person who know what he wants, doesn't compromise, but is pleasant and easy to get along with, although you would think it wasn't true, since he has his own opinions. But apparently he disagrees in a cordial way and doesn't burn any bridges.

SweetCaroline wrote: Energetic-queer vibe? I have no idea what that is! Did Freddie have that?

Iron Butterfly wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: Energetic-queer vibe? I have no idea what that is! Did Freddie have that?

Let's just say Freddie was Freddie ;-).

philip storey wrote: I don't know why Brian and Roger really want to carry on touring,it can't possibly be for the money they are both absolutely minted.i went to see Queen with AL at Birmingham ,the arena is a pig to get to in the middle of Birmingham.I was embarrsed by what I saw,quite frankly it was awfull.I bought Queen 1 when I was 10 years old and fell in love with the band.I went with a friend who thought it was great ,it made things worse.Brian and Roger have made a real balls up of things since the passing of Freddie.The reason QPR folded was tension between Paul and Brian.

bucsateflon wrote:

runner_70 wrote: Freddie never had rhe " look I am the gayest guy in town" attitude. He wasa musician.

true that

Holly2003 wrote: Re: moldable etc., all we've been hearing here is that Lambert's albums aren't good because of all the compromises he has to make to suit his record company. But now that's wrong and in fact he isn't "moldable" but is instead a single-minded artiste who is willing to defend his art at the expense of his career. So which one is it ? ;)

rockchic65 wrote:

Holly2003 wrote: Re: moldable etc., all we've been hearing here is that Lambert's albums aren't good because of all the compromises he has to make to suit his record company. But now that's wrong and in fact he isn't "moldable" but is instead a single-minded artiste who is willing to defend his art at the expense of his career. So which one is it ? ;)

There's a difference between being moldable in the way it was implied and knowing that you have to work with the record label to a degree if you want to get music released. That said he dug his heels in on various points with his first label and ended up walking away when they tried insisting on him doing a new wave covers album so I'd say that's pretty single minded considering he didn't have a new label lined up. It would be idiotic to never make any compromises in business but there's a line when it becomes a step too far and you have to be willing to put your foot down or you end up being walked over, there's no way that would happen.

runner_70 wrote: Delusional Glamtarts believe that Lamebird left on his behalf - truth is he was dropped due to flop records.

PrimeJiveUSA wrote: As far as the American tours go, it must be gratifying for Brian and Roger that they are actually playing to crowds equal to( and actually exceeding) the size of the ones at their commercial zenith in 1980. For how far they fell here in popularity during the 1980's to early 1990's this resurgence is quote remarkable. Most bands from Queen's era need to do double headliner bills(sometimes triple) to sell the amount of tickets QAL are here in the States.

rockchic65 wrote:

runner_70 wrote: Delusional Glamtarts believe that Lamebird left on his behalf - truth is he was dropped due to flop records.

Nope he's talked about leaving RCA in interviews openly which he wouldn't have done if he were lying, too much risk involved in being called out about it. The fact is they wanted a new wave covers album, he thought about it and offered a compromise of a 80's rock/glam rock cover album or even a 90's cover album even though it wasn't what he really wanted but they were adamant it was new wave or nothing so he said thanks but I'm not feeling it and walked away, no drama, no aggro and he left on good terms. Don't see what's so hard to accept about that fact.

runner_70 wrote: You see something - Lamebird ist all about COVERS. Covers here covers there - he is sooooooo creative and an ICON that he is doing COVERS! And of course he said it was his wish to leave. Do you expect him to say "yes they dropped me"? Thats why he is desperately trying to do QAL as long as he posibly can as it is his last career grasp. Then it is back to cruise ships and gay clubs

rockchic65 wrote: ... in fact he'll have more free time to pursue other things.

SweetCaroline wrote: “Jazz Odyssey?” What does THAT mean?

SweetCaroline wrote: Michael Buble sang “Where or When” on the Voice — very old song. His new album called “Love” is covers of very old songs. Waiting for the grinches who don’t approve of singers performing covers! LOL

SweetCaroline wrote: YOU! YOU! YOU! Constantly bashing Adam !!!!!! OMG !!!!’

SweetCaroline wrote: YOU! YOU! YOU! Constantly bashing Adam !!!!!! OMG !!!!’

snifflese wrote: Icy, you always bring up covers, that Adam sings cover and if somebody mentions a new gig, you ask if it is a cover? Pretty obvious you don't think much of him singing covers. You always say he should be doing his own new music as if there is something wrong with covers. That is my general impression of your view.

snifflese wrote: Icy, you always bring up covers, that Adam sings cover and if somebody mentions a new gig, you ask if it is a cover? Pretty obvious you don't think much of him singing covers. You always say he should be doing his own new music as if there is something wrong with covers. That is my general impression of your view.

snifflese wrote: Icy, you are missing the point. In your post on page 6, you act as if there is nothing wrong with singing covers. It is fine if Buble does it, but you always sound critical when Adam sings covers and you make a point of bringing it up more often than not. If it is OK to sing covers, as in the case of Buble and others, why is it a problem if Adam sings covers? There are many things that are fine for other artists to do, according to you, but you will then turn around and criticize Adam for doing the same thing. I think that is what Caroline was pointing out and you do that.

SweetCaroline wrote: The point is you bash Adam but you think it is perfectly okay for Buble to sing nothing but covers and put out albums with all covers. So leave Adam alone. Also there is a video from Spike on Twitter (but no link to copy) praising Adam for his professionalism, creativity and resourcefulness. It is not karaoke to sing Queen music, especially with legendary musicians.

runner_70 wrote: After all he is destroying a once might band and making them a laughing stock.

rockchic65 wrote:

runner_70 wrote: After all he is destroying a once might band and making them a laughing stock.

Such a laughing stock they've almost sold out their tour for next year already and had to add more seats and extra shows. They aren't a laughing stock in the slightest and they get great reviews from the media, even I'm surprised they don't get some backlash but they don't seem to except from a few fans but they hardly matter in the scheme of things. Seems you see things that just don't exist.

runner_70 wrote: Wow you are getting sane - so you expect them to get backlash??? Why? Secretly you think they are crap too? You are getting there. In those days of fake news I would not be surpised if they pay big bucks for a favourable reviews. Most non Lanebert freaks laugh about this collaboration. It is the most comical cooperation of once mighty musicians ever. Think about U2 replacing them with this twat. Or the Stones. Rolling STones plus Adam Lambert ???? LMFAO. But with Queen it is supposed to work? Queen had a frontman even more iconic than Bono and Jagger.

runner_70 wrote: The lhama is the new singer so he replaces the old singer. He does not play flute does he? He can say he doesnt want to be compared to Freddie but then he should not copy him with things like the crown or the Live Killers leather outfit. It makes him look like a cheap copycat clown

snifflese wrote: It is kind of hard at this point to have clothes that someone hasn't worn before. There is only so much you can switch up with what meat dresses, stupid wig things covering faces, trapezes you sing from, baring most of your body. I am not sure there is anything that would be totally new. Tons of people wear leather performing and it is esp. prevalent with rock groups. I have seen Dickinson, Priest, and other current singers performing in leather. Freddie's leather doesn't look much like Adam's and Adam has had so many different leather ensembles. Every one is different, but I am glad Adam has not shown up in sparkling onesies, leotards and ballet slippers. IMO that would be a little much!!

SweetCaroline wrote: Because of all the demeaning comments that Adam is a tranny and a ladyman! Why do you need to ask those questions like you did at QOL to get people banned? It should be obvious why we talk about the onesies, short shorts, etc.

snifflese wrote: If there is so much criticism on one side, there is certainly some criticism for the other side. Nobody makes perfect fashion choices, some are just bombs. But to say they are copying someone is silly, since everyone is copying someone else. Clothes are clothes for the most part. But I do find the onesies to beat them all as far as "out there" for a guy! Kind of on the Lady Gaga level as a great many of her outfits have been beyond ridiculous.

SweetCaroline wrote: OMG, Icy, STFU already! Freddie had zero fashion sense compared to Adam! Conversation over and out!

SweetCaroline wrote: OMG, Icy, STFU already! Freddie had zero fashion sense compared to Adam! Conversation over and out!

snifflese wrote: I actually think in general Adam's choice of attire is really spot on. There are only a few really awful things, like a poncho comes to mind. He is often on the best dressed lists for events and he cleans up really nice. His outfits for the concerts are themed and kind of flow throughout the course of the concert and he pairs with Brian often. What new and innovative idea would you have for a photo shoot, Icy? Sure it has been done before, what hasn't been? I know Freddie is the best, the most original and never did anything anyone else did. Every idea was new and innovative. Give me a break! Some of the stuff definitely wan't fashionable, but YMMV. Really who cares? It should be about the music. Who cares what they wore?

snifflese wrote: Yes, Freddie did evolve and he set the standard that others aspire to, that is for sure! I do think while Adam doesn't want to be a Freddie clone, he is certainly cognizant of what Freddie did and how he did it. I remember him saying how often he listened to certain songs, to get the feel of it, to see if he could figure out what Freddie meant and then to translate it to his own style, but always remembering the original intent. He doesn't want to step on any toes and be respectful. I honestly believe that. I think he tries to do a really good job that represents Queen and Freddie well and is always respectful to their legacy. As far as leather goes, I didn't really like that one leather crazy outfit with spikes and a cup, if you know what I mean! That one was a little cringe worthy with Adam. It was definitely out there!! I just chuckled to myself!!

snifflese wrote: It is kind of hard to ignore a journalist, reporter or whoever they are when they badger you for a statement. I believe he referenced what he heard from Brian and Roger. I din't really find that he said a whole lot or anything that would have been taken amiss. It was a pretty bland statement, especially when Adam is pretty forthright about his sexuality. People today are a little more forthright than previous generations and I think he answered based on what he was told. I think it would have looked weird had he said no comment. It was one or two comments around the time of the biopic being a big point of discussion, right? And whether or not Freddie's sexuality was depicted the way it should have been in the movie? I might be mistaken, but I thought it was then. Personally, I find it refreshing that Brian and Roger didn't want to make a spectacle of the sexual business and the partying, etc. It seems that is all the critics wanted to talk about and the movie was critiqued terribly by those people. Apparently the general public didn't need details, since it has done so well. Critics are terrible people, always looking for the scandalous, that most of us can just do without. Good for Brian and Roger sticking to their vision! Often if the critics like it, I don't and you see that so often when you compare the critical review to the general public's.

snifflese wrote: All I can say is it is hard to evade questions when you are being interviewed. I am sure he would never have brought it up on his own and I assume he was repeating what he heard from the guys.

snifflese wrote: Nowadays no one evades questions anymore other than in court, it seems. I truly haven't seen a celebrity say that they won't answer something. It would have looked weirder if he hadn't answered. He wasn't revealing any state secrets and most people don't care at this point. Not sure why it bothers you so much. People may never really know what his true sexual nature was and can only guess. Personally, I could care less what someone's orientation is, whatever makes them happy.

MisterCosmicc wrote: SweetCaroline is a SourCunt

Holly2003 wrote: Today is Paul Rodgers' 69th birthday. I think he will probably celebrate by beating up some muggers.

Holly2003 wrote: Today is Paul Rodgers' 69th birthday. I think he will probably celebrate by beating up some muggers.

snifflese wrote: Seems much more like a stupid one!!! The difference is that Adam is entertaining and Paul is dull as dishwater and can't sing the entire catalog the way Freddie would have done it. I don't want to hear something that just doesn't sound like Queen. Adam sings in all the original key signatures, which even Freddie didn't do. They were that way on their albums, but not necessarily at their concerts. Could not believe how Freddie sounded singing Killer Queen in a you tube from a concert, nothing like what I had always heard on the albums. Adam can do that every time. He has some talents as a vocalist that maybe Freddie didn't have. Brian has said as much on several occasions. He is actually a musician with a musicians ear and he has worked for years with both Adam and Freddie. You can't just dismiss what he says like most of you do. He knows a lot more than any of the posters here. Brian is not as bad as some of you would like to think after reading some of your mean comments. Adam has many, many talents, just different from Freddie, but similar enough to make it work. And that is what works, putting your own stamp on the original, but keeping it close enough to the original. That is a tricky line to navigate and Adam does it splendidly.

snifflese wrote: That is your opinion. If you saw him live, his voice is not thin. It is like an operatic tenor and he has can fill the arena with sound and it doesn't sound thin or weak. It is resonant and fills the venue, no matter how large. You and Icy and runner can all have quite the love fest with your Freddie obsession! There are things that Adam can do with his voice that Freddie couldn't and vice versa. Freddie wasn't musically perfect, no matter what you think. No one is ever. I am not talking about Adam's music, which isn't near the standard of Queen's music. That is why I prefer Adam singing Queen. But his vocals, his singing ability has nothing to do with his own music. I am talking Vocals, not writing not anything else, just pure vocals.

snifflese wrote: Seems much more like a stupid one!!! The difference is that Adam is entertaining and Paul is dull as dishwater and can't sing the entire catalog the way Freddie would have done it. I don't want to hear something that just doesn't sound like Queen. Adam sings in all the original key signatures, which even Freddie didn't do. They were that way on their albums, but not necessarily at their concerts. Could not believe how Freddie sounded singing Killer Queen in a you tube from a concert, nothing like what I had always heard on the albums. Adam can do that every time. He has some talents as a vocalist that maybe Freddie didn't have. Brian has said as much on several occasions. He is actually a musician with a musicians ear and he has worked for years with both Adam and Freddie. You can't just dismiss what he says like most of you do. He knows a lot more than any of the posters here. Brian is not as bad as some of you would like to think after reading some of your mean comments. Adam has many, many talents, just different from Freddie, but similar enough to make it work. And that is what works, putting your own stamp on the original, but keeping it close enough to the original. That is a tricky line to navigate and Adam does it splendidly.

Adam is too good and too similar in many ways to Freddie and that is the part you don't like.

snifflese wrote: Me thinks this is a case of the pot calling the kettle black. Queen fans on here are not capable , for the most part, of a rational discussion, as they feel Freddie was and is perfect and no one else is ever going to rise to his hallowed status. Not everyone else is that obsessed and rigid. Some of us can enjoy other singers. If you can't, no problem, until you start denigrating other singers, in particular Adam, just because they are not Freddie. Adam is too good and too similar in many ways to Freddie and that is the part you don't like. You don't care if PR covers Queen, because no way does he measure up. You don't like the accolades that QAL gets and think it detracts from Freddie, which is ridiculous, because Queen is not QAL.

snifflese wrote: Just shut runner. You are an absolute abomination on this board as you spew verbal crap that no one but your buddies wants to read. You wish you could be as successful as Adam and since you are such a defender of Queen, I can't believe the crap you write about Brian. You are a two bit fan at best, a homophobe, a pot stirrer and a complete idiot. Therefore your opinions don't count and you are a filthy mouthed, dirty old man! No Adam fans are denigrating Freddie which is what you always start screaming about. But, he is not perfect either and rational people can discuss that. .

snifflese wrote: Nope, I haven't, Icy because all of you people are just as nasty as you can be for the most part. You brook no other opinions and start with the name calling if anyone doesn't bow down to Freddie. This is a QAL THREAD, so Freddie may not be the main focus, nor should he be. Every other thread on this forum is for Queen and Freddie. Leave the people here alone unless you can post in a reasonable, grown up manner and not be offended if someone says they don't think Freddie can do everything Adam can with his voice. Technically he is hands down better, as he is a trained singer and not a baritone learning to sing on his own in the higher ranges. Each of them sounds better in certain songs, depending on the range of the song. It also depends on whether a person prefers tenors or the lower ranges. YMMV. But it is all open to discussion. You guys will not let people discuss even when it is not a comparison to Freddie. You jump right in with name calling and juvenile, ugly behavior. SO, why would I want to go a Queen thread where you rip apart anyone trying to do anything buy pay homage to Freddie? You have got to be kidding me. It is too bad that this QAL thread is always hijacked by you people who won't allow a discussion of Adam and Queen. Anything said is just bigging up, which is the stupidest remark ever! Last place I would ever go is to another part of the forum. I have no desire to discuss Freddie and Queen with you guys, as there is no discussion, you just attack.

snifflese wrote: Perfect example of what I just said, thanks, Icy, for proving my case! You people are just too much!!

snifflese wrote: I don't see red, but I also don't get why every time QAL and Adam is discussed, you people start in with your ugly criticisms, homophobic remarks and the bigging up crap. Nothing can be discussed without that happening. It has nothing to do with Freddie, but you seem to think life can't go on without Freddie being inserted somewhere!

SweetCaroline wrote: Yes, please don’t ever mention Freddie — we hate him! We don’t ever mention him in this forum. We are the ones who pay lots of money for multiple concerts to hear his iconic music played by his legendary band mates and we go to see the award nominated biopic about his life! But WE are the nasty people who hate him and are so glad 27 years later that he is dead so that OUR guy can take his place. Yes, we are evil people who hate Freddie Mercury! I’ll repeat it — WE HATE FREDDIE MERCURY! Satisfied now ?????

SweetCaroline wrote: And you are the most maddening person on the Internet because, like Trump, you never shut up and think everyone is insulting you and you must have the last word. It is all about you and you go on and on and on and on like a fucking broken record! I don’t hate Freddie but after all of these years of your non-stop nonsense, I’m pretty sure I hate you.

SweetCaroline wrote: And you are the most maddening person on the Internet because, like Trump, you never shut up and think everyone is insulting you and you must have the last word. It is all about you and you go on and on and on and on like a fucking broken record! I don’t hate Freddie but after all of these years of your non-stop nonsense, I’m pretty sure I hate you.

snifflese wrote: Paul is dull as dishwater and can't sing the entire catalog the way Freddie would have done it..

snifflese wrote: That is your opinion. If you saw him live, his voice is not thin. It is like an operatic tenor and he has can fill the arena with sound and it doesn't sound thin or weak. It is resonant and fills the venue, no matter how large. You and Icy and runner can all have quite the love fest with your Freddie obsession! There are things that Adam can do with his voice that Freddie couldn't and vice versa. Freddie wasn't musically perfect, no matter what you think. No one is ever. I am not talking about Adam's music, which isn't near the standard of Queen's music. That is why I prefer Adam singing Queen. But his vocals, his singing ability has nothing to do with his own music. I am talking Vocals, not writing not anything else, just pure vocals.

SweetCaroline wrote: And you are the most maddening person on the Internet because, like Trump, you never shut up and think everyone is insulting you and you must have the last word. It is all about you and you go on and on and on and on like a fucking broken record! I don’t hate Freddie but after all of these years of your non-stop nonsense, I’m pretty sure I hate you.

runner_70 wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: And you are the most maddening person on the Internet because, like Trump, you never shut up and think everyone is insulting you and you must have the last word. It is all about you and you go on and on and on and on like a fucking broken record! I don’t hate Freddie but after all of these years of your non-stop nonsense, I’m pretty sure I hate you.

See a shrink - I really mean it.

MisterCosmicc wrote:

runner_70 wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: And you are the most maddening person on the Internet because, like Trump, you never shut up and think everyone is insulting you and you must have the last word. It is all about you and you go on and on and on and on like a fucking broken record! I don’t hate Freddie but after all of these years of your non-stop nonsense, I’m pretty sure I hate you.

See a shrink - I really mean it.

She should. Or another doctor. Could be dementia.

snifflese wrote: But since you secretly agree with that faction, you have no issues with them. To me that is quite telling. You are also a hater who is just here to stir the pot.

snifflese wrote: Icy, your rambles and crazy attacks would drive anyone to drink! You go on and on and on saying the same thing for months and you always attack and see what will stick. Your obsession with Caroline is just as bad as the Freddie obsession. Everything revolves around him. For most people none of the things you hold as the holy grail are important. They probably have never thought about them. It is enough to go and see this band, and be interested in the music now, support the concerts and see the movie. You do none of those, so I am not sure how you can be such a great supporter. You just criticize till the cows come home. You are a stalker, as she can't post anything without you being right there. Go pick on someone else. Pick on runner and some of the stupid stuff he says. But since you secretly agree with that faction, you have no issues with them. To me that is quite telling. You are also a hater who is just here to stir the pot.

SweetCaroline wrote: Is Paul Rodgers still touring or recording new music? I missed seeing him two summers ago when he appeared at a local outdoor venue.

SweetCaroline wrote: Next year it will be 10 years for Adam. Longer than the 15 minutes the haters gave him. Adam is going to be like Tony Bennett. He will still be plodding along into his 80’s long after the overnight flash in the pans are gone!

snifflese wrote: We will never know, will we, but of course, you choose to think that he would be gone and done. I am sure you are secretly hoping he crashes and burns so you can say I told you so. You have a lot of nerve to ever say you like Adam, which you often do. I assume he would have gone to Broadway or done something musical. A voice like that is never going away. There will be lots of opportunities for him. He is singing a song in a movie and doing the voice for a character. Adam will be around a long time. I would bet on it.

SweetCaroline wrote: Seriously icy are you really that dense? I compared Adam to Tony Bennett for longevity, not for the genres they sing!

snifflese wrote: Do not even try to pretend you like anything about Adam and QAL. It is in every comment and nasty snide remark that you make. He hangs on the coattails of Brian and Roger; he doesn't write music and isn't a musician; he is a pop singer, not a rock singer; he does covers; he talks about Freddie's sexuality; he is wooden, doesn't move well on stage; his banter is cringe worthy as is Killer Queen and the bicycle and the crown; his attire isn't new and cutting edge like Freddie's, his last photo shoot was a copy cat; he over sings. and he might have worn real fur (the horrors of that!!). That is just for starters, so what is it exactly that you like, because it sure doesn't seem like anything to me. Then you are always hoping he doesn't get a chance for some publicity and wanting to know why he should be at a debut or the Kennedy Center or anything of that nature. You are so negative, it isn't even funny!! I can't stand Runner and his ilk, but in some ways, you are worse. You pretend that you like him and then everything out of out mouth is hateful. You might ask Brian and Roger about being a savior. I believe Brian's term was a "Gift from God". He never expected to be able to play to huge crowds and enjoy touring again and now with Adam it is possible. Roger has said the same thing! You are deluded if you think any other singer could have the outcome Adam has had with Brian and Roger. There is no one with Adam's range and ability to sing the whole catalog competently and with the swagger and charisma to carry it off. And the fact that the other guys love him and love touring with him, as they all just click! Check with Brian and Roger before you call me out on bigging Adam up for being a savior ( a word I have never used).. They have said the same thing just in different words. You hate their success so much that you can't see straight, otherwise you wouldn't carry on as you do .No, I can't tell the future, but I believe the stars are aligned for Adam. You can hope it doesn't, which I am sure you do. No matter what Adam's path is, it has nothing to do with Freddie, so I don't understand why you take all of this so personally and as such an affront to Freddie. He is probably sitting up in heaven wondering what is wrong with you because I don't think Freddie was a hateful man. I bet he and Adam would have enjoyed each other immensely.

snifflese wrote: The only one losing any sh..t is you and unfortunately it is constantly. As far as losing one's mind, I believe it is also you, because you truly don't see how your actions are perceived by everyone else on this board other than the totally nasty group. I have never met anyone quite as obtuse as you. Someone who says the same thing over and over and is upset about everything, even when it is has nothing to do with her beloved Freddie. You need to get a grip and learn how to play nicely with others. Somehow you missed that part of growing up. You can never answer kindly, it is always an attack, particularly on certain people. You say everyone else is ranting. I think most of it stems from you. This is how you always are since years ago when I first started reading the forums. You never change unfortunately.

SweetCaroline wrote: Amen!

snifflese wrote: The only one losing any sh..t is you and unfortunately it is constantly. As far as losing one's mind, I believe it is also you, because you truly don't see how your actions are perceived by everyone else on this board other than the totally nasty group. I have never met anyone quite as obtuse as you. Someone who says the same thing over and over and is upset about everything, even when it is has nothing to do with her beloved Freddie. You need to get a grip and learn how to play nicely with others. Somehow you missed that part of growing up. You can never answer kindly, it is always an attack, particularly on certain people. You say everyone else is ranting. I think most of it stems from you. This is how you always are since years ago when I first started reading the forums. You never change unfortunately.

snifflese wrote: He hangs on the coattails of Brian and Roger; he doesn't write music and isn't a musician; he is a pop singer, not a rock singer; he does covers; he talks about Freddie's sexuality; he is wooden, doesn't move well on stage; his banter is cringe worthy as is Killer Queen and the bicycle and the crown; his attire isn't new and cutting edge like Freddie's, his last photo shoot was a copy cat; he over sings. and he might have worn real fur (the horrors of that!!).

about Adam Camembert too,

snifflese wrote: Because I have read her mean posts on QOL and here for years and she always vilifies people, esp Caroline, who for some reason just gets her goat. Well, too bad, Caroline is allowed to post her things her just like Icy does. At the very least Caroline is not mean like Icy and she should be allowed to post what she would like in a thread for QAL. After so many years it just rubs me the wrong way about Icy. If Caroline was banned from QOL, where they also always fight, I am sure it had to do with Icy and they both should have been banned. It was my honest assessment of the situation. I was just pointing it out since everything devolves into fights here, too. Get Icy to stop criticizing and going on her copy and paste rants where she throws the same ridiculous accusations at Caroline over and over and over and maybe we would have some peace around her. Aren't you the clever one with the cheese! Kids are funnier than that. Your behavior is really sad for an adult. Making fun of people is never cool, just shows how dumb your criticisms are. I have always been a Queen fan since they came out in the 1970's. I have bought their albums all that time and love them. But I do not worship at the altar of Freddie. Brian was and is my favorite and Freddie as a front man was always too in my face. His style didn't appeal to me all that much and he never sounded like the recorded music. I preferred to listen to the music. To each his own!! I am entitled to my opinion. I love heavy metal, rock, so it is not the music. I have seen ACDC, Judas Priest, Sabbath, and others and Iron Maiden is right up their with Queen for me. I prefer higher voices and as I said, Freddie is really great, but not my personal fav. I would take Dickenson with his voice over Freddie any day. Every fan has a different favorite. I have seen Maiden numerous times and love them. For me it is more about the voice and I prefer who I prefer.

snifflese wrote: I have never had a conversation with you about any music and truthfully, having the albums that I bought in the 1970s doesn't mean that I remember individual songs. I couldn't tell you all the songs from Iron Maiden, but I recognize most of them when I hear them. I had other things in my life going on and didn't have time to remember every single song a band puts out. There is no reason for me to lie. That is another thing everyone hear throws out. If you are not an Uberfan, there are way too many to remember and I haven't memorized things that are not right up there at the top of my list like my profession, my family, etc. There are plenty of things I have forgotten at my age, but memorizing songs from albums was something I doubt I ever committed to memory at any point. It wasn't that important. I like their music, I bouight their albums and that was the end of it. I have read thousands and thousands of books in my life, but half of them I couldn't recall. Same difference!

snifflese wrote: Because I have read her mean posts on QOL and here for years and she always vilifies people, esp Caroline, who for some reason just gets her goat. Well, too bad, Caroline is allowed to post her things her just like Icy does. At the very least Caroline is not mean like Icy and she should be allowed to post what she would like in a thread for QAL. After so many years it just rubs me the wrong way about Icy. If Caroline was banned from QOL, where they also always fight, I am sure it had to do with Icy and they both should have been banned. It was my honest assessment of the situation. I was just pointing it out since everything devolves into fights here, too. Get Icy to stop criticizing and going on her copy and paste rants where she throws the same ridiculous accusations at Caroline over and over and over and maybe we would have some peace around her. Aren't you the clever one with the cheese! Kids are funnier than that. Your behavior is really sad for an adult. Making fun of people is never cool, just shows how dumb your criticisms are. I have always been a Queen fan since they came out in the 1970's. I have bought their albums all that time and love them. But I do not worship at the altar of Freddie. Brian was and is my favorite and Freddie as a front man was always too in my face. His style didn't appeal to me all that much and he never sounded like the recorded music. I preferred to listen to the music. To each his own!! I am entitled to my opinion. I love heavy metal, rock, so it is not the music. I have seen ACDC, Judas Priest, Sabbath, and others and Iron Maiden is right up their with Queen for me. I prefer higher voices and as I said, Freddie is really great, but not my personal fav. I would take Dickenson with his voice over Freddie any day. Every fan has a different favorite. I have seen Maiden numerous times and love them. For me it is more about the voice and I prefer who I prefer.

Holly2003 wrote: I recall mentioning a number 1970s Queen tracks to you and you had never heard of them. Why do you lie?

Iron Butterfly wrote: I don't think you are a Queen fan. I actually think you arent even a hard rock fan. Going by your posts, I say you are only an AL fan.

runner_70 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote: I don't think you are a Queen fan. I actually think you arent even a hard rock fan. Going by your posts, I say you are only an AL fan.

It is not too hard to notice :)

snifflese wrote: I don't know what kind of people you folks associate with, but in my world we don't have much to do with liars. That isn't anything I ever think about but apparently you people do. Also, if you have a life with family, job, etc, you don't spend a lot of time on-line posting about bands and books and stuff like that. This is the only place I ever post. Don't really understand that either. As far as not being a rock fan, yea, I saw Maiden and Priest and Ozzy because I really hated their music. I guess my world is very different than yours and I am glad about it, because I don't hate everything and criticize everything and disbelieve what others tell me. Stay in you "happy" (sarcasm - for you, Icy!) little world. It must truly suck to be like you guys with no joy in your surroundings.

SweetCaroline wrote: This thread needs to be renamed: “Icy/runner crybaby trolls ranting and raving”

snifflese wrote: Wow, Icy, are you finally having that breakdown. You sure are behaving poorly, screaming and yelling and telling quite a few whoppers yourself. For someone who hates Adam you sure know the ins and outs of Adamtopia. What are you talking about, a red alert? I have no clue what that is. I read there and scroll a lot and posted under 10 times in all the years I have checked it out. I haven't posted once this year there, I am pretty sure. As far as QOL, I haven't said much recently, nor for the whole year.. I bet it is only a handful of posts in the past year. The only place I post regularly (should have included that word!) is here. As usual I am sorry I wasted my time. You are nastier than ever and just ruin the forum, probably the nastiest piece of work I have ever had the misfortune to encounter. You call everyone liars and no one else is like you, all about the music. Right, there is hardly a post anywhere from you about the music. You call people out, rant, and then ask questions at most. You are really all about the music, I can tell! This is just a place for you to vent your frustrations as no one would go to the lengths that you do for any other reason. Have fun deluding yourself, but you aren't deluding anyone else. You couldn't put together a coherent post about music if your life depended on it, otherwise I would have seen something like that from you after all these years and I never have.

snifflese wrote: Since you are the cyber stalker, how many in the last year? I said I had a few posts, but I hardly post there ever. That isn't exactly lying. You are a stalker and really scary. Do you have nothing better to do than stalk people on line? Red alert I have no clue of and I don't download crap like this on the internet. You need to be avoided at all costs as you are approaching the unbalanced area. Get a real life, lady! I am done posting here as I don't like you or this situation at all. People need to be beware of you. Have fun with your Freddie and your make believe world.

snifflese wrote: I have no intention of downloading anything, but I found one post on QOL in early Dec about my experience buying tickets and 2 in July and one in May. I don't think that qualifies me as a liar or serial poster. I couldn't find any on Adamtopia. Whatever you think about a red alert, it sure wasn't me. I don't even know what you are talking about. I am sure it didn't have my name on it as the poster. I am not that much of an idiot. Who does stupid crap like that? I think the last post I made was in 2016 about VIP tickets. The only place I post much at all is here, but I am sure that makes me a liar. I don't count a couple of posts during the course of a year as much of anything. Say what you want, but you are really scary and until Freddie's name is the only one allowed everywhere and only the most marvelous things mentioned, you won't be happy. I am not ashamed of myself as I don't post about anything here unless it is QAL and then occasionally about Freddie. John I have zero interest in. You want to hijack everything. Have fun. I hope everyone leaves here and you can post back and forth with yourself.

SweetCaroline wrote: That’s basically what she does now, taking up pages and pages of every thread she gets her clutches on.

snifflese wrote: The poster on Adamtopia was not me, Scout's honor. I don't post there ordinarily. I also didn't have a crusade here to get others to join me. I don't know anybody on these boards. I just stated from the very beginning that you and Caroline always fight and that if she got banned, it was probably a ruckus with you. So, I would assume both people would be banned. It was as simple as that. No crusades, no anything. That was my opinion, nothing else. I have no idea who would join me? I am really confused about that. I am done with the subject. I don't care anymore, really. It just isn't any fun to post. I have never really done it prior to here and it has been a bad experience. I will leave everyone else to their fun. Merry Christmas, All!

SweetCaroline wrote: Merry Christmas, snifflese! Have a great holiday!

runner_70 wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: Merry Christmas, snifflese! Have a great holiday!

Why dont you two hi8on a long holiday together where no pcs and wifi is available?

SweetCaroline wrote: “It just isn’t any fun to post. I have never really done it before prior to here and it has been a bad experience.” Another one bites the dust! There are only two “Glamberts” left over at QOL and they have to “curb their enthusiasm” over Adam so that icy and the milkman don’t go after them and get JPL so frustrated that he ha to ban them and lock up another thread. I have lost track of how many were locked. Some were deleted completely. I wish Brian and Roger would tour with another front man just to prove that it isn’t Adam not being accepted but anyone who dares to travel that sacred ground.

SweetCaroline wrote: “It just isn’t any fun to post. I have never really done it before prior to here and it has been a bad experience.” Another one bites the dust! There are only two “Glamberts” left over at QOL and they have to “curb their enthusiasm” over Adam so that icy and the milkman don’t go after them and get JPL so frustrated that he ha to ban them and lock up another thread. I have lost track of how many were locked. Some were deleted completely. I wish Brian and Roger would tour with another front man just to prove that it isn’t Adam not being accepted but anyone who dares to travel that sacred ground.

runner_70 wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: “It just isn’t any fun to post. I have never really done it before prior to here and it has been a bad experience.” Another one bites the dust! There are only two “Glamberts” left over at QOL and they have to “curb their enthusiasm” over Adam so that icy and the milkman don’t go after them and get JPL so frustrated that he ha to ban them and lock up another thread. I have lost track of how many were locked. Some were deleted completely. I wish Brian and Roger would tour with another front man just to prove that it isn’t Adam not being accepted but anyone who dares to travel that sacred ground.

Once Glambert is sacked there will be bonfires at every Queen site. Every banned Glambert is a good Glambert! Well DOne QOL!

Sealion wrote:

runner_70 wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: “It just isn’t any fun to post. I have never really done it before prior to here and it has been a bad experience.” Another one bites the dust! There are only two “Glamberts” left over at QOL and they have to “curb their enthusiasm” over Adam so that icy and the milkman don’t go after them and get JPL so frustrated that he ha to ban them and lock up another thread. I have lost track of how many were locked. Some were deleted completely. I wish Brian and Roger would tour with another front man just to prove that it isn’t Adam not being accepted but anyone who dares to travel that sacred ground.

Once Glambert is sacked there will be bonfires at every Queen site. Every banned Glambert is a good Glambert! Well DOne QOL!

LOL! Says the man, who got banned from QOL after less than two weeks this year. And not for the first time... There is a reason, why Gerry, Caroline and you are stuck here. Plus Butterfly, who follows Caroline from forum to forum. Yes, Iron Butterfly is always much more active in the forum, where Caroline is active as well. It’s very obvious. ;) Merry Christmas, you freaks!

runner_70 wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: “It just isn’t any fun to post. I have never really done it before prior to here and it has been a bad experience.” Another one bites the dust! There are only two “Glamberts” left over at QOL and they have to “curb their enthusiasm” over Adam so that icy and the milkman don’t go after them and get JPL so frustrated that he ha to ban them and lock up another thread. I have lost track of how many were locked. Some were deleted completely. I wish Brian and Roger would tour with another front man just to prove that it isn’t Adam not being accepted but anyone who dares to travel that sacred ground.

Once Glambert is sacked there will be bonfires at every Queen site. Every banned Glambert is a good Glambert! Well DOne QOL!

SweetCaroline wrote: I have no idea what “runner” calls himself at QOL. I thought he was milkman, Or is he YAFF, Icy’s bodyguatd? LOL

In May I posted an interview with Adam about the Freddie biopic in the biopic thread, Right away dear icy pounced on it because Adam was answering questions about his and Freddie’s sexual orientation. According to her he had no business talking about that subject. JLP right away moved the posts to the Adam thread. I don’t read the posts at QOL very often but I see that icy is pretty much keeping a low profile since I’m not there. And the others are very careful. Again, there are some who can say whatever they want as long as it isn’t overly complimentary to Adam. When I was there, icy thought she was an assistant moderator and called out if there was duplicate information even if it had additional videos, etc. Nice things about Adam is called SPAM and multiple posts bitching about him isn’t called that.

SweetCaroline wrote: One more thing while I’m on my soapbox. I don’t know if Freddie was officially bisexual or officially homosexual and I really don’t care. Adam has had sex with women. Does that make HIM bisexual? Why is Freddie considered macho and Adam is mocked as a “ladyboy?” Again, I don’t care because I think Adam is very macho. I just don’t get it. Why can’t they both be who they are and be left alone about it. The only reason I point out what Freddie wore is that I am tired of hearing that about Adam.

SweetCaroline wrote: Yes, sealion it is quieter over there now but I was not the chief offender.

SweetCaroline wrote: One more thing while I’m on my soapbox. I don’t know if Freddie was officially bisexual or officially homosexual and I really don’t care. Adam has had sex with women. Does that make HIM bisexual? Why is Freddie considered macho and Adam is mocked as a “ladyboy?” Again, I don’t care because I think Adam is very macho. I just don’t get it. Why can’t they both be who they are and be left alone about it. The only reason I point out what Freddie wore is that I am tired of hearing that about Adam.

runner_70 wrote: Adam is macho? Since when is dressing like a tranny, riding on bikes like a retarded clown or lying on a couching acting like an old whore "macho"? Very macho indeed. I wonder where you have the info that he fucked women? I wonder what women would jump into bad with him. Well we know: Those two lunatic grannie would. He rather fucked a sheep (aka his goat sound maybe) than a woman. Freddie was may more masculine that this twat

rockchic65 wrote: Just to say over on QOL when the movie came out the mod moved some comments out of the movie thread because he was fed up of the argument about Adam having a cameo. When questioned he said he'd seen the movie and wasn't the least bit bothered by Adam being in it and it certainly didn't spoil anything for him but he was annoyed at the ongoing arguing by a couple of people that was derailing the thread and he moved them for that reason. Makes sense to me since on here without a mod threads just end up derailed constantly. He may not like QAL but I don't get the impression he actually hates Adam outside of the Queen collaboration or that he's deliberately banning or picking on people who do like him, there's been some civil discussions over there about him recently and no one's been picked at about them.

SweetCaroline wrote: Regarding being banned at QOL, icy, consider yourself lucky that YAFF stands up for you to JLP and calls him out for “bullying” you. The conversation on page 211 of the Adam Lambert thread shows how irritated JLP gets when you continue to bring up the Adam/Freddie/gay subject. And yes that had something to do with me getting banned back in May and it also had something to do with the first time I got banned because you and your milkman buddy kept pushing it. I remember you getting banned for a couple of months (?) but I don’t know the reason because it had nothing to do with me. As for me wanting to go back there to take more abuse, no I won’t be doing that. It is appalling that people with positive messages are not tolerated. If I went back with nasty criticism of Adam, I would be welcomed with open arms!

snifflese wrote: Who cares about this??? NO ONE!! Too bad someone can't ban you and the other two creeps here either! This place needs a total cleanse at this point.

SweetCaroline wrote: I have no idea what “runner” calls himself at QOL. I thought he was milkman, Or is he YAFF, Icy’s bodyguatd? LOL In May I posted an interview with Adam about the Freddie biopic in the biopic thread, Right away dear icy pounced on it because Adam was answering questions about his and Freddie’s sexual orientation. According to her he had no business talking about that subject. JLP right away moved the posts to the Adam thread. I don’t read the posts at QOL very often but I see that icy is pretty much keeping a low profile since I’m not there. And the others are very careful. Again, there are some who can say whatever they want as long as it isn’t overly complimentary to Adam. When I was there, icy thought she was an assistant moderator and called out if there was duplicate information even if it had additional videos, etc. Nice things about Adam is called SPAM and multiple posts bitching about him isn’t called that.

Sealion wrote: No, you wouldn’t. Runner got banned there as well. He sure wasn’t positive about Q+. My impression is, that YOU got banned, because of two reasons: A) You keep pushing AL too much. Even if a thread isn’t about him. B) You keep clashing with Butterfly/Icy. I actually agree, that’s more her fault than your‘s. Because she does follow your posts, as I mentioned before. And she kept criticizing your posts to the attention of the mods. It’s almost the same as here (only more civilized): You two keep fighting. In order to stop this, the moderator has to throw one of you out. Since she keeps mostly silent, as long as you’re gone, he banns you. The one, who doesn’t get along with some of the other members either. It’s that easy. For all I know, there have been quite a few civil discussions on QOL about Q+ lately. And it’s more than just 2 glamberts. Actually, I wouldn’t call anyone there just a glambert. I see Queen fans talking about a collaboration. But for all I know, even I‘ve been called a glambert more than once by now. So QOL must be full of them. Even the mods must be glamberts, because they banned the runner. ;)

SweetCaroline wrote: I have no idea what “runner” calls himself at QOL. I thought he was milkman, Or is he YAFF, Icy’s bodyguatd? LOL In May I posted an interview with Adam about the Freddie biopic in the biopic thread, Right away dear icy pounced on it because Adam was answering questions about his and Freddie’s sexual orientation. According to her he had no business talking about that subject. JLP right away moved the posts to the Adam thread. I don’t read the posts at QOL very often but I see that icy is pretty much keeping a low profile since I’m not there. And the others are very careful. Again, there are some who can say whatever they want as long as it isn’t overly complimentary to Adam. When I was there, icy thought she was an assistant moderator and called out if there was duplicate information even if it had additional videos, etc. Nice things about Adam is called SPAM and multiple posts bitching about him isn’t called that.

SweetCaroline wrote: One more thing while I’m on my soapbox. I don’t know if Freddie was officially bisexual or officially homosexual and I really don’t care. Adam has had sex with women. Does that make HIM bisexual? Why is Freddie considered macho and Adam is mocked as a “ladyboy?” Again, I don’t care because I think Adam is very macho. I just don’t get it. Why can’t they both be who they are and be left alone about it. The only reason I point out what Freddie wore is that I am tired of hearing that about Adam.

Iron Butterfly wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: I have no idea what “runner” calls himself at QOL. I thought he was milkman, Or is he YAFF, Icy’s bodyguatd? LOL In May I posted an interview with Adam about the Freddie biopic in the biopic thread, Right away dear icy pounced on it because Adam was answering questions about his and Freddie’s sexual orientation. According to her he had no business talking about that subject. JLP right away moved the posts to the Adam thread. I don’t read the posts at QOL very often but I see that icy is pretty much keeping a low profile since I’m not there. And the others are very careful. Again, there are some who can say whatever they want as long as it isn’t overly complimentary to Adam. When I was there, icy thought she was an assistant moderator and called out if there was duplicate information even if it had additional videos, etc. Nice things about Adam is called SPAM and multiple posts bitching about him isn’t called that.

The lies and the bullshit. Every.Time.

Sealion wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: I have no idea what “runner” calls himself at QOL. I thought he was milkman, Or is he YAFF, Icy’s bodyguatd? LOL In May I posted an interview with Adam about the Freddie biopic in the biopic thread, Right away dear icy pounced on it because Adam was answering questions about his and Freddie’s sexual orientation. According to her he had no business talking about that subject. JLP right away moved the posts to the Adam thread. I don’t read the posts at QOL very often but I see that icy is pretty much keeping a low profile since I’m not there. And the others are very careful. Again, there are some who can say whatever they want as long as it isn’t overly complimentary to Adam. When I was there, icy thought she was an assistant moderator and called out if there was duplicate information even if it had additional videos, etc. Nice things about Adam is called SPAM and multiple posts bitching about him isn’t called that.

The lies and the bullshit. Every.Time.

Do you try to convince yourself, Iron Butterfly? I have read on QOL for years. And most of what Caroline says is true, from what I‘ve seen over the years. Sure, she isn‘t innocent. But please stop your tirades about her telling lies. No, she can’t prove it, because the first Q+AL thread(s) have been completely deleted. The last time, YOU have been the one, who was always fast to point out to the mods, what her links were about. The mod himself had declared, that he doesn’t open them. And you knew, she was told not to „spam“. I know at least one member over there, who declared you a „foe“, so that he doesn‘t have to read your posts any longer (a great function by the way). You aren’t innocent. You always follow her. So, please shut up about Caroline telling lies. You are sitting in the same boat.

snifflese wrote: I would say that no matter how many times you state that your opinions count, it just points out that you, not Adam is the biggest loser! You are entitled to your opinions, but you are in a very small minority and never have anything new to say, so you could easily move off to a different forum. The real statistics just don't prove anything you say to be true. Just saying the same things over and over does not make it true.

rockchic65 wrote: Yet another name change for one of the resident trolls - Bottom feeding Fuckwit should be your next name change, at least be honest about what you are!!!

runner_70 wrote: Sure - as a rock chick you dont know a grammy winning rckband which just did a huge USA Arena tour. Can you change your name into Lametart please?

Papa Emeritus IV wrote: “And to answer your topic question: Q+ Lame bert are more succesful because Lame bert sold his ASS to the devil. Lame bert is the whipping boy in hell. Now you’ll understand why he’s able to sing the high niets. Everytime he sings a high note, remember that at that particular moment he’s feeling Beelzebub’s dick in his rectum.” The Clergy has spoken! ALL HAIL TO PAPA EMERITUS IV!

rockchic65 wrote:

runner_70 wrote: Sure - as a rock chick you dont know a grammy winning rckband which just did a huge USA Arena tour. Can you change your name into Lametart please?

They're metal actually and I did know but I was pointing out I could have googled it if I didn't.

runner_70 wrote: Ghost are not metal you clueless glamtart. Do your homework

Papa Emeritus IV wrote: Iron butterfly, you’re allowed to bend your head, kneel and kiss the hand of PAPA EMERITUS IV

Papa Emeritus IV wrote: “It was not a question or invitation, it was an order. Stultus tibi prostibulum!! “ The Clergy has spoken! ALL HAIL TO PAPA EMERITUS IV !!!

rockchic65 wrote:

runner_70 wrote: Ghost are not metal you clueless glamtart. Do your homework

Really - link link He seems to think they're metal.

ForFreddie wrote: The people who go to see Queen with Adam Lambert, are going to see.... Adam Lambert, they're HIS fans, not Freddie's or, Queen's. 20,000 people? Sure, I buy that, 20,000 people who probably weren't even born until after Freddie died and, knew nothing about him, or Queen, for that matter, who just wanted to see, ' that guy who won that singing contest on TV.' I don't begrudge any of you, your thoughts/feelings/opinions and, I would never resort to insults, like some of you. It's my perogitive, to like, dislike anyone, singers included, as for the band? They've sullied the name, Queen, by putting that person up there, pretending to be Freddie, TRYING, to be Freddie, if not for Freddie, they would have remained 'Smile' playing in low class dives, they owe their fame and fortune to, Freddie Mercury. As far as I'm concerned, Queen died, the day Freddie died. Ever hear the expression, ' break a leg' no different than, ' break a neck'....I'm just wishing Adam well, in a different way. Oh, 20,000 people.... opposed to how many Freddie brought in? We're not talking about the same game, let alone, ballpark.

snifflese wrote: I understand that you are a Queen guy and that is just fine. However, the number 20,000 is for one concert this summer (my conceert in Boston), not the sum total of all of their concerts, which would be millions. They have sung at over 80 shows and some have been huge, like the first in Kiev where there were 450.000 in the square. If you add all those up, it is in the millions. The number per concert is also going up evidenced by the larger venues in the upcoming tour. They are pretty much sold out and they have added crumby seats on the side, up in the top and even behind the stage (who would want to be there?). They actually have played for millions of fans and then add all the people who have seen them perform on TV like the New Years Eve show (2014 maybe??). It is quite a large number. The people who see the concert are fans of both Queen and Adam and the big majority are Queen fans. You just have to look at social media to see how many people say they are huge Queen fans and never wanted to see anyone but Freddie, but they love this show after having been dragged to a show, or they were just curious. It have seen thousands and thousand of Queen fans changing their minds and writing about it on the internet. I have also spoken to many at the concerts. It is way more than you would think! Adam also has lots of fans, but I do think most are initially Queen fans. You also have to remember how many years it has taken Queen to build up a fan base and QAL is relatively new in comparison. It is, however, off to a great start with lots of new and younger fans!

snifflese wrote: The music doesn't stop just because the composer passed on. If that were the case, there would be no Mozart, Beethoven, etc, etc, etc. How many times have songs been rerecorded by new artists? It happens all the time and that is the mark of great music, the fact that it lives on when other musicians play it and singers sing it. This is just a ridiculous argument as if Freddie were more important than any of the artists of the past. I don't think he can be placed above the great composers of the past and their works are played every day around the world and I don't remember ever reading anything like this about their music. It would be very sad to have lost this treasure trove of music because the original composer, singer, etc is no longer alive. As far as Brian and Roger, I doubt that it has anything to do with money. They have more than enough. They play because they are musicians and that is their job and their passion. Why should they give it up? They have said when it isn't fun, they won't do it. At their age it is all about enjoyment and self satisfaction and they love touring with Adam and entertaining their fans. They actually KNEW Freddie and if they don't find it offensive, I don't know why others should. It is their band, their music and their choice as to how they will go about dealing with their music. I would say that there are millions of fans that just don't agree with you about Adam and his voice. He is becoming a fixture and fans seem to also love him. You are in the very, very tiny minority.

snifflese wrote: Would you quit with the names! You have some pathological problem that youconstantly m call people all sorts of nasty stuff for no good reason. Obviously your English is severely compromised if you think I am denigrating Freddie. I also wouldn't use "bigging up' as that is an Icy phrase which I have never seen anywhere else. People might look at you funny, but you probably never leave your cave, so I guess that wouldn't be much of a problem for you.

ForFreddie wrote: Regarding the band, Smile, and whether or not they would have made it big, without Freddie? The answer is a resounding, NO....not to the degree in which Freddie took Queen, anyway. Because, you see, Freddie was the key component, no Freddie, no band called, Queen. Had Freddie not demanded a chance to play with Smile, had he not changed the name to Queen, had he not written chart topping hit songs...we wouldn't be having this conversation, because, Queen would not exist. Freddie was the driving force behind Queen, it was he, who is responsible for their status, their fame....so, yeah, it's in bad taste, in my opinion, to put ANYONE up on stage, where Freddie used to be, in an attempt to keep the name Queen, out there, they seem a little ungrateful to the man who's genius, put them in the spotlight to begin with.

runner_70 wrote:

snifflese wrote: Would you quit with the names! You have some pathological problem that youconstantly m call people all sorts of nasty stuff for no good reason. Obviously your English is severely compromised if you think I am denigrating Freddie. I also wouldn't use "bigging up' as that is an Icy phrase which I have never seen anywhere else. People might look at you funny, but you probably never leave your cave, so I guess that wouldn't be much of a problem for you.

I only call YOU names as you fucking deserve it you dickhead

SweetCaroline wrote: Roger talks about next tour and huge statue of Freddie in his garden: link

runner_70 wrote:

snifflese wrote: Would you quit with the names! You have some pathological problem that youconstantly m call people all sorts of nasty stuff for no good reason. Obviously your English is severely compromised if you think I am denigrating Freddie. I also wouldn't use "bigging up' as that is an Icy phrase which I have never seen anywhere else. People might look at you funny, but you probably never leave your cave, so I guess that wouldn't be much of a problem for you.

I only call YOU names as you fucking deserve it you dickhead

Vocal harmony wrote:

runner_70 wrote:

snifflese wrote: Would you quit with the names! You have some pathological problem that youconstantly m call people all sorts of nasty stuff for no good reason. Obviously your English is severely compromised if you think I am denigrating Freddie. I also wouldn't use "bigging up' as that is an Icy phrase which I have never seen anywhere else. People might look at you funny, but you probably never leave your cave, so I guess that wouldn't be much of a problem for you.

I only call YOU names as you fucking deserve it you dickhead

Since you're so quick to claim the band are wrong to tour with a different singer, and since you're so quick to sling insults try this little morsel of historical accuracy. AC/DC . Bon Scot died in February 1980. By July of the same year, not only had they replaced him, but they had recorded and released a new album. At least Queen didn't do that, and they have shin more respect for Freddie and themselves than you show people in here. You're an immature child, who tries to act like you are the last word in what people are allowed to think or say. The truth is your so full of shit it's pouring out of your fucking mouth and ears son.

runner_70 wrote: This pairing is laughable enough

runner_70 wrote: is a QUEEN board so QAL has to vanish here. We dont have other cov band section here why QAL then???They re a bad cover act

ForFreddie wrote: Brian May, is thinking about retiring, if he does, the rest probably will, too. If that happens, I wonder which legendary rock band Lambert will attach himself to, next.

ForFreddie wrote: Royalty, it was an actual interview with Brian May, where he said he was kicking around the idea of retiring.

rockchic65 wrote:

ForFreddie wrote: Royalty, it was an actual interview with Brian May, where he said he was kicking around the idea of retiring.

Do you have a link to it, was it recent? I must have missed that one.

Sealion wrote:

rockchic65 wrote:

ForFreddie wrote: Royalty, it was an actual interview with Brian May, where he said he was kicking around the idea of retiring.

Do you have a link to it, was it recent? I must have missed that one.

Not recent. That was some years ago. Lately he always stated, that he will play until he drops. Roger said about it in his last interview, which was released this week: Q“ What does Queen mean to you? Roger Taylor: The band is now Brian May and myself, and we have become closer in a way. We realized this is our life and this is our destiny and I think we enjoy it. We have this wonderful singer, Adam Lambert, who is a joy to work with and it's a beautiful combination. He is much younger than we are but it works. He is very intelligent and has the most beautiful voice. We realize now that this is what we do and we enjoy doing it while we still can. I don’t know how much longer but right now we really enjoy playing and I look forward to our next tour, whenever it may be.“ from: link Brian‘s interview from this site: link

ForFreddie wrote: Snifflese..... sorry if I came off like that, I do realize you weren't putting me down..... some people, though.... Hey, if I'm wrong, I'm wrong, I'm a big enough person to admit it! No worries...

ForFreddie wrote: You're pretty young, huh?

ForFreddie wrote: Runner.....I stand by what I say about Lambert... always will. The movie? About what, was I wrong, did we discuss the movie?

Iron Butterfly wrote: I'm just gonna say this to you For Freddie and snifflese...you both were very lucky to have been Queen fans back in the day. I'm jealous...but in a good way.

runner_70 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote: I'm just gonna say this to you For Freddie and snifflese...you both were very lucky to have been Queen fans back in the day. I'm jealous...but in a good way.

How can anyone who hates Freddie call herself a Queen fan is beyond me. She has neither a clue about Queen nor about Maiden

SweetCaroline wrote: There’s another example of icy’s nonsense. How can I or anyone be filled with envy toward Freddie? I love that Adam loves Freddie and wants to honor him by performing his music in an entertaining way to bring it to life for the audience. So when I say I loved Queen music in the ‘70’s and ‘80’s and regret not seeing them live back then because of MY busy life, Icy mocks me. If she is finally treating snifflese with the respect she deserves, that is great. About time.

ForFreddie wrote: The thing is, SweetCaroline, Freddie's fans don't need Lambert singing those songs, to keep Freddie's memory alive, we'll always remember him....the way he was, singing his own songs....no one else, comes close to doing them justice. Keeping Freddie's memory alive, has nothing to do with the reason Lambert is doing this, far as I'm concerned, it's about Lambert himself and, furthering his own career.

ForFreddie wrote: OMG! Iron Butterfly is right about you! You've already wished Adam a happy birthday, now, you've done it again.....why? Don't answer that... rhetorical question.

ForFreddie wrote: The thing is, SweetCaroline, Freddie's fans don't need Lambert singing those songs, to keep Freddie's memory alive, we'll always remember him....the way he was, singing his own songs....no one else, comes close to doing them justice. Keeping Freddie's memory alive, has nothing to do with the reason Lambert is doing this, far as I'm concerned, it's about Lambert himself and, furthering his own career.

SweetCaroline wrote: ForFreddie: She stepped on it. That’s why I posted it again. She just did it again because it appears to be her cockeyed mission in life. Try to keep up—she’s pretty quick. Never misses an opportunity to diss me and to diss Adam!

ForFreddie wrote: Since I don't have a horse in this race, I did some looking around, myself, it's not too smart to take one person's word for anything, which I admit, I was doing so, I've actually been reading up on Adam Lambert. Ok, he is a nice guy, a good guy, doesn't forget where he came from, loyal to his friends. I actually might like him, should I ever meet him. That being said, I still can't watch him on stage with Queen ... except for the clips I did watch.... there's something about that, that doesn't sit right with me, as ridiculous as some might find that. It was always Queen, with Freddie Mercury, every song I listened to, every time I was in the car, rocking out, getting odd looks from fellow motorists.... I can't accept anything else.

ForFreddie wrote: Of course, I don't know Adam personally, just going by the things out there, written about him. Yes, I know people can and, do lie. I really wish he'd stop touring with the remaining members of Queen, though....that will never be ok with me. Those old Queen dudes, should just retire.

runner_70 wrote: he is an ass no nice guy. Arrogant fake twat with a powerless gal's voice and a ladyboy on drugs look

rockchic65 wrote:

ForFreddie wrote: Of course, I don't know Adam personally, just going by the things out there, written about him. Yes, I know people can and, do lie. I really wish he'd stop touring with the remaining members of Queen, though....that will never be ok with me. Those old Queen dudes, should just retire.

I can understand some fans not being able to accept another singer or want to see them without Freddie but I never get why anyone would think they should retire. Any musician will tell you it's not a job it's a passion and it's addictive especially the adrenaline rush from being on stage so for most of them it's not a choice but a need and nothing to do with money etc. They were relatively young when Freddie died so through no fault of anyone's they suddenly found themselves with their career as it was cut short. It took a long while before they toured again and it's really obvious they are loving being out there again so even if I wasn't personally interested in the collaboration I'd still be happy for them - just my take on it.

snifflese wrote: link This is for Brancelli and Rockchic - this author is a singer and music teacher and has written a lot of very interesting articles about Adam's voice. I am fascinated about singer's voices (not just Adam!), so I always read them. She talks about the manner in which he sings Nessen Dorma and how different it was to her ears. She brings up the weakness in the 2nd phrase (line) due to his lower register. It is actually in the comment area and is in answer to a question. (you mentioned that Brancelli) I thought her remarks about commercial opera singing was really interesting. You might enjoy this as she knows his voice well and is quite an expert hersel on the voice.

snifflese wrote: Why not? I didn't think anyone else might be interested. That would be great. See what you think. I learned some new things and it was one of the more interesting articles I have read about his voice. It is a good read!

snifflese wrote: link This is for Brancelli and Rockchic - this author is a singer and music teacher and has written a lot of very interesting articles about Adam's voice. I am fascinated about singer's voices (not just Adam!), so I always read them. She talks about the manner in which he sings Nessen Dorma and how different it was to her ears. She brings up the weakness in the 2nd phrase (line) due to his lower register. It is actually in the comment area and is in answer to a question. (you mentioned that Brancelli) I thought her remarks about commercial opera singing was really interesting. You might enjoy this as she knows his voice well and is quite an expert hersel on the voice.

ForFreddie wrote: Since I don't have a horse in this race, I did some looking around, myself, it's not too smart to take one person's word for anything, which I admit, I was doing so, I've actually been reading up on Adam Lambert. Ok, he is a nice guy, a good guy, doesn't forget where he came from, loyal to his friends. I actually might like him, should I ever meet him. That being said, I still can't watch him on stage with Queen ... except for the clips I did watch.... there's something about that, that doesn't sit right with me, as ridiculous as some might find that. It was always Queen, with Freddie Mercury, every song I listened to, every time I was in the car, rocking out, getting odd looks from fellow motorists.... I can't accept anything else.

Brancelli wrote: I apologize in advance for posting this, as I know it's been posted before, but this is an excellent example of Adam's control over his voice. No crazy high notes either, so perhaps maybe Icy may even enjoy it. It is the aforementioned "Come to Me, Bend to Me" from Brigadoon. link

snifflese wrote: link This is for Brancelli and Rockchic - this author is a singer and music teacher and has written a lot of very interesting articles about Adam's voice. I am fascinated about singer's voices (not just Adam!), so I always read them. She talks about the manner in which he sings Nessen Dorma and how different it was to her ears. She brings up the weakness in the 2nd phrase (line) due to his lower register. It is actually in the comment area and is in answer to a question. (you mentioned that Brancelli) I thought her remarks about commercial opera singing was really interesting. You might enjoy this as she knows his voice well and is quite an expert hersel on the voice.

runner_70 wrote: He is neither a ferrari nor a ford but a powerless twat with a girls voice lacking power and depth

SweetCaroline wrote: My son says Adam is a Lamborghini !!!

rockchic65 wrote:

runner_70 wrote: He is neither a ferrari nor a ford but a powerless twat with a girls voice lacking power and depth

I'm sure you're very familiar with the concepts of powerless and lacking in depth since you are the very epitome of them.

PrimeJiveUSA wrote: @The Circle of Eidolon Why do you think runner 70 is "powerless".

runner_70 wrote:

Brancelli wrote: I apologize in advance for posting this, as I know it's been posted before, but this is an excellent example of Adam's control over his voice. No crazy high notes either, so perhaps maybe Icy may even enjoy it. It is the aforementioned "Come to Me, Bend to Me" from Brigadoon. link

He is neither a ferrari nor a ford but a powerless twat with a girls voice lacking power and depth

The Circle of Eidolon wrote:

PrimeJiveUSA wrote: @The Circle of Eidolon Why do you think runner 70 is "powerless".

Powerless because despite his insults no one has run away Despite his condemnation of those who do not agree with him, they have stood fast As often as he puts down the musicians in the band they continue to play, and play what they wish to play. Audience's buy tickets, he's attempts on here and elsewhere to belittle them has obviously failed, as has he. He is powerless in all that he posts, his thoughts are as deep as coffee spilled in saucer, and if he wasn't as foolishly offensive as he appears to be, most of what he says is laughable These are the answers to your question The Circle of Eidolon has spoken