QueenZone discussion #1529998

ernie85017 wrote: Wish they wouldn't do that. It's never going to be the same and what it is with AL is junk.

AngelR wrote: So, you wouldn't like them to go on tour?

Kuijpy wrote: Im waiting for Butterfly and SweetCaroline... endless discussion of 2 freaks

snifflese wrote: MM - Truly milking the profits from Freddie and riding on Queen's coattails, but that is OK, because he doesn't threaten Freddie. No one would ever think he is better than Freddie, but Queen fans secretly worry that there might be some people who think Adam is a wonderful stand in for Freddie and that threatens them, so of course, they have to say they hate him. Makes perfect psychological sense. I know there are some Queen fans that don't care for Adam's voice and the fact it is not as rock as Freddie, but I think there are more who feel threatened by Adam and the accolades he is getting from concert goers.. YMMV!

Mr right wrote: Lambert on Strictly last week was just awful, he is the worst act to ever grace the BBC studio ever.

snifflese wrote: Why don't you go away, you filthy old man! I am tired of your nasty name calling. What in the world is wrong with you? You couldn't have an adult conversation if your life depended on it. You always fall back on nastiness and rants. This forum doesn't need crap like you cluttering up the threads. Go somewhere where you can commiserate with other sad, clueless "clowns" (per you) like yourself.

Mr right wrote: Just for all the clueless Lamjerk fans.

snifflese wrote: MM - Truly milking the profits from Freddie and riding on Queen's coattails, but that is OK, because he doesn't threaten Freddie. No one would ever think he is better than Freddie, but Queen fans secretly worry that there might be some people who think Adam is a wonderful stand in for Freddie and that threatens them, so of course, they have to say they hate him. Makes perfect psychological sense. I know there are some Queen fans that don't care for Adam's voice and the fact it is not as rock as Freddie, but I think there are more who feel threatened by Adam and the accolades he is getting from concert goers.. YMMV!

SweetCaroline wrote: “I’d like to see Roger and Brian do solo tours.” Would you go to see them in person?

SweetCaroline wrote: Adam does not dress in drag. What don’t you get about jackets and trousers? He doesn’t wear onesies and ballet slippers.

SweetCaroline wrote: Adam does not dress in drag. What don’t you get about jackets and trousers? He doesn’t wear onesies and ballet slippers.

flash00. wrote: Yup I'd go see Brian or Roger on a solo tour, with respect it's not AL that's pulling those huge crowds it's the name Queen and those incredible songs which everybody sings. You cannot go anywhere on the planet with out hearing the voice of Freddie singing even after all these years you would think he was still alive. I'm not bashing Lambert he would be far better if he toned the drag act crap down... he's fronting the biggest "rock" band on the planet not the Scissor Sisters.

SweetCaroline wrote: The implication by flash00 is that Adam dresses in drag at Queen shows. That photo you posted is probably the ONLY time he did that and, of course, you have it in your Adam hate file.

SweetCaroline wrote: When Adam dances on stage in itty bitty white shorts and bare feet, then you can complain!

SweetCaroline wrote: Go Freddie! link

SweetCaroline wrote: My point is don’t call Adam a drag act!

flash00. wrote: Yup I'd go see Brian or Roger on a solo tour, with respect it's not AL that's pulling those huge crowds it's the name Queen and those incredible songs which everybody sings. You cannot go anywhere on the planet with out hearing the voice of Freddie singing even after all these years you would think he was still alive. I'm not bashing Lambert he would be far better if he toned the drag act crap down... he's fronting the biggest "rock" band on the planet not the Scissor Sisters.

Mr right wrote: VH That is your personal opinion, you are deluded if you think AL can actually pull of the concert of the century and make Queen more popular than Freddie ever did. May & co cant have that much confidence in Lambert because they are shit scared to go into a recording studio with him. They know it would flop big time. Lambert is making his living from Freddie's music and Queens and he knows his own solo material is crap because he was on Strictly last week singing " We are the champions" what is wrong with his own material if he is so good then?

Mr right wrote: Iron Butterfly Those pics of AL in drag where really scary, and he certainly has an identity crisis going on there!

Mr right wrote: Rockchic Sorry but your talking rubbish, Lambert could have sang anything from a musical it did not have to be Queen music.

Mr right wrote: Rockchic Sorry but your talking rubbish, Lambert could have sang anything from a musical it did not have to be Queen music. As for them been different ages again age has nothing to do with recording music, they all tour and make music, so the truth is May is shit scared of flopping recording with Lambert.

anadamfan wrote: Haha! A bunch of people, who know next to nothing about Adam, found some pictures. Did it scare you? Should I put pictures of Queen in drag beside these? I bet, you know these, do’s no need, I guess. These pictures of Adam are to be taken as seriously as the ones of Queen. It was for fun. As explanation for those, who are interested in the background and aren’t here to make fun of Adam: The pictures were taken at a party, where every guest appeared in drag. That was more than 10 years ago, before Adam became famous. He went there with his boyfriend, who talked him into it. Both were there in drag. Adam said, he did drag about 2-3 times in his life, but isn’t into it and hadn’t done it for years. Unfortunately for some of you, ;) the probability of seeing Adam in drag again is close to zero.

Mr right wrote: Well i am saddened if Brian May actually believes Adam is the only one who can fill Freddie's shoes, and quite frankly it very disrespectful to say that because Freddie was unique and tour de force on stage and Lambert is not a rock & roll star. There is times when May just talks utter bull shit to promote Adam and make him look good. Taylor is no better.

Iron Butterfly wrote:

anadamfan wrote: Haha! A bunch of people, who know next to nothing about Adam, found some pictures. Did it scare you? Should I put pictures of Queen in drag beside these? I bet, you know these, do’s no need, I guess. These pictures of Adam are to be taken as seriously as the ones of Queen. It was for fun. As explanation for those, who are interested in the background and aren’t here to make fun of Adam: The pictures were taken at a party, where every guest appeared in drag. That was more than 10 years ago, before Adam became famous. He went there with his boyfriend, who talked him into it. Both were there in drag. Adam said, he did drag about 2-3 times in his life, but isn’t into it and hadn’t done it for years. Unfortunately for some of you, ;) the probability of seeing Adam in drag again is close to zero.

A bunch of people? I googled AL in drag and that was what came up. Pretty easy to find, took less than a minute to do so. I know the history behind the picture, it's been discussing on QOL a few times before. I'm not holding it against him for dressing in drag. My point was that he actually dressed in drag. Sure, post pics side by side of Queen members in drag and AL in drag. I think Queen had more fun with it, and they didn't take themselves too seriously with it. Oddly enough, the repeat of RuPaul's Drag Race with AL as a guest judge is airing right now.

anadamfan wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

anadamfan wrote: Haha! A bunch of people, who know next to nothing about Adam, found some pictures. Did it scare you? Should I put pictures of Queen in drag beside these? I bet, you know these, do’s no need, I guess. These pictures of Adam are to be taken as seriously as the ones of Queen. It was for fun. As explanation for those, who are interested in the background and aren’t here to make fun of Adam: The pictures were taken at a party, where every guest appeared in drag. That was more than 10 years ago, before Adam became famous. He went there with his boyfriend, who talked him into it. Both were there in drag. Adam said, he did drag about 2-3 times in his life, but isn’t into it and hadn’t done it for years. Unfortunately for some of you, ;) the probability of seeing Adam in drag again is close to zero.

A bunch of people? I googled AL in drag and that was what came up. Pretty easy to find, took less than a minute to do so. I know the history behind the picture, it's been discussing on QOL a few times before. I'm not holding it against him for dressing in drag. My point was that he actually dressed in drag. Sure, post pics side by side of Queen members in drag and AL in drag. I think Queen had more fun with it, and they didn't take themselves too seriously with it. Oddly enough, the repeat of RuPaul's Drag Race with AL as a guest judge is airing right now.

My post wasn’t against your post. It was meant as an answer to the discussion, that it provoked. Which actually led to Mr. Right‘s assumption of an identity crises. Since you just threw it in, I thought it important to tell people, who read here, what the picture was about. Sweet Caroline had tried to explain it, but you and some other posters don’t seem to take her comments seriously. And Mr.Right and Runner70 will be the ones, who will go around spreading the lie, that Adam Lambert does drag regularly and has an identity crises. Which is as far from the truth as it gets. Adam has been more than ones a judge or guest on RuPaul‘s Drag Race. He also has Drag Queens as friends. That doesn’t mean, he’s into it himself. Yes, Queen might have had more fun with their costumes. It was really just a costume for them and Adam had been dragged to that party by his boyfriend. ;)

Iron Butterfly wrote:

anadamfan wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

anadamfan wrote: Haha! A bunch of people, who know next to nothing about Adam, found some pictures. Did it scare you? Should I put pictures of Queen in drag beside these? I bet, you know these, do’s no need, I guess. These pictures of Adam are to be taken as seriously as the ones of Queen. It was for fun. As explanation for those, who are interested in the background and aren’t here to make fun of Adam: The pictures were taken at a party, where every guest appeared in drag. That was more than 10 years ago, before Adam became famous. He went there with his boyfriend, who talked him into it. Both were there in drag. Adam said, he did drag about 2-3 times in his life, but isn’t into it and hadn’t done it for years. Unfortunately for some of you, ;) the probability of seeing Adam in drag again is close to zero.

A bunch of people? I googled AL in drag and that was what came up. Pretty easy to find, took less than a minute to do so. I know the history behind the picture, it's been discussing on QOL a few times before. I'm not holding it against him for dressing in drag. My point was that he actually dressed in drag. Sure, post pics side by side of Queen members in drag and AL in drag. I think Queen had more fun with it, and they didn't take themselves too seriously with it. Oddly enough, the repeat of RuPaul's Drag Race with AL as a guest judge is airing right now.

My post wasn’t against your post. It was meant as an answer to the discussion, that it provoked. Which actually led to Mr. Right‘s assumption of an identity crises. Since you just threw it in, I thought it important to tell people, who read here, what the picture was about. Sweet Caroline had tried to explain it, but you and some other posters don’t seem to take her comments seriously. And Mr.Right and Runner70 will be the ones, who will go around spreading the lie, that Adam Lambert does drag regularly and has an identity crises. Which is as far from the truth as it gets. Adam has been more than ones a judge or guest on RuPaul‘s Drag Race. He also has Drag Queens as friends. That doesn’t mean, he’s into it himself. Yes, Queen might have had more fun with their costumes. It was really just a costume for them and Adam had been dragged to that party by his boyfriend. ;)

I don't know much or even want to know about AL's private life. But please know, I don't hold it against him for dressing in drag or having friends who do it. I'm not that much of a hypocrite ;-). I don't watch the show often, I'm not watching it now, because I'm catching up on another show I've missed out on for a few weeks. But how many times has AL appeared on Drag Race? Today the repeat is with Emma Bunton also a guest judge.

SweetCaroline wrote: Adam in Manila (videos) ..... link

SweetCaroline wrote: Adam in Manila (videos) ..... link

Iron Butterfly wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: Adam in Manila (videos) ..... link

Going by that, not his best versions.

runner_70 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: Adam in Manila (videos) ..... link

Going by that, not his best versions.

"Lamebert" and "best " in one sentence should be strictly avoided....

rockchic65 wrote: The sound quality on those clips is god awful, impossible to tell anything from them.

Iron Butterfly wrote:

rockchic65 wrote: The sound quality on those clips is god awful, impossible to tell anything from them.

Pretty awful, I don't know why sweetcaroline even bothered to post them. It's hardly a good example of what he is capable of. Those clips prove nothing to me, only how bad it is. I don't think we will get more clips from the event.

Mr right wrote: Lets get this straight Queen dragged up for the video of "I want to break free" as a tribute to the soap Coronation Street, it was not Freddie's idea by the way it was the other band members that suggested the drag parts in the video, where as Adam Lambert wears make up very heavily even off stage as i have seen pictures of him looking like a cross between siouxsie soux and Marilyn Manson, he takes it to the extreme and for me it is too much it turns my stomach. I dread that he has been chosen for Queen as lead singer he does make the band look freaky arguably.

Mr right wrote: Lets get this straight Queen dragged up for the video of "I want to break free" as a tribute to the soap Coronation Street, it was not Freddie's idea by the way it was the other band members that suggested the drag parts in the video, where as Adam Lambert wears make up very heavily even off stage as i have seen pictures of him looking like a cross between siouxsie soux and Marilyn Manson, he takes it to the extreme and for me it is too much it turns my stomach. I dread that he has been chosen for Queen as lead singer he does make the band look freaky arguably.

Mr right wrote: Yes the coronet crown was just Lambert been big headed and thinking he was it. Quiet sad when your feeding of someone else's talents to make a living.

Mr right wrote: Yes the coronet crown was just Lambert been big headed and thinking he was it. Quiet sad when your feeding of someone else's talents to make a living.

Mr right wrote: Yes the coronet crown was just Lambert been big headed and thinking he was it. Quiet sad when your feeding of someone else's talents to make a living.

Mr right wrote: Lets get this straight Queen dragged up for the video of "I want to break free" as a tribute to the soap Coronation Street, it was not Freddie's idea by the way it was the other band members that suggested the drag parts in the video, where as Adam Lambert wears make up very heavily even off stage as i have seen pictures of him looking like a cross between siouxsie soux and Marilyn Manson, he takes it to the extreme and for me it is too much it turns my stomach. I dread that he has been chosen for Queen as lead singer he does make the band look freaky arguably.

MisterCosmicc wrote: What? Adam Lambert always wears make up. Whether he's on stage, or off, he's layered his face to hide his freckles.

SweetCaroline wrote: Ha! Ha! Brian “crowned” him on June 19, 2014 in Chicago, opening night of their NA tour. I was there! Yay!

MisterCosmicc wrote: Look at his face and then look at his arms. Of course he's got make up on in that photo as well.

SweetCaroline wrote: Brian is very happy with Rami’s portrayal of Freddie. Don’t you want to start ragging on HIM now, too!

MisterCosmicc wrote: Look at his face and then look at his arms. Of course he's got make up on in that photo as well.

anadamfan wrote: Adam usually wears a foundation. I think, I haven’t seen him without it. Does it really matter? It’s his face. If you had acne scars, you would wear make-up as well. But it isn’t as much as in the beginning of his career.

rockchic65 wrote:

MisterCosmicc wrote: Look at his face and then look at his arms. Of course he's got make up on in that photo as well.

You can see his freckles all over his face and the part of his arm where there's no tats. The point is he doesn't wear a ton of make up all the time, there are vids and photo's where he's wearing very little. Anyone in TV etc wear some make up for the camera but it's not like he's got tons on or a ton of eye make up, certainly not drag style like Mr Right was on about.

snifflese wrote: Freddie was absolutely perfect!!!!

snifflese wrote: I think is is so funny that you people think you can see into Freddie's mind and know just what he meant.

snifflese wrote: If you KNEW anything really about Adam, the makeup is really toned down and often pretty non existent.

snifflese wrote: You obviously haven't seen any pictures recently. So, if you haven't got a clue, which you don't. you should just not say anything.

MisterCosmicc wrote:

snifflese wrote: Freddie was absolutely perfect!!!!

No he wasn't, and that's what I liked about him, he didn't have to pretend he was perfect.

snifflese wrote: I think is is so funny that you people think you can see into Freddie's mind and know just what he meant.

Trust me, drag wasn't something that turned him on sexually. Rough, hairy, chubby truck drivers in flannel shirts did, though. Adam definitely wasn't his type.

snifflese wrote: If you KNEW anything really about Adam, the makeup is really toned down and often pretty non existent.

I've seen too many photos of him, totally unattractive... very popular with old, overweight women, though.. which I'm not, so don't try to convince me to like him, his terrible voice, or terrible appearance. Aside from photos of when he was a teenager or just prior to American Idol, I very much doubt you've seen any photos of him without makeup. That crap on his voice is make up. It's for his appearance.

snifflese wrote: You obviously haven't seen any pictures recently. So, if you haven't got a clue, which you don't. you should just not say anything.

I've been posting on here for such a long time, I'll never not say anything. You're stuck with me =)

Mr right wrote: VH You are deluded saying Lambert hardly uses make up because Adam Lambert is all about over the top make up homosexuality/ transgender freakiness. May & Taylor have become desperate taking Lambert on board just to get back in the limelight. The pic below shows Lambert is just obsessed with his homosexuality.

SweetCaroline wrote: Adam is out and proud and I believe, while Freddie wore some outrageous outfits on stage, he did not admit publicly to being gay.

SweetCaroline wrote: “The pic below shows Lambert is just obsessed with his homosexuality.” ..... and so are YOU !!!!! You are obviously not a Freddie fan if you are bashing homosexuality! I recall him performing in feathers! LOL

Mr Wight wrote: VH You are deluded saying Lambert hardly uses make up because Adam Lambert is all about over the top make up homosexuality/ transgender freakiness. May & Taylor have become desperate taking Lambert on board just to get back in the limelight. The pic below shows Lambert is just obsessed with his homosexuality.

Mr Wight wrote: Yes i also hate the way he dressed the tattoos and the over excessive camp effeminate homosexual persona that he makes very prominent in every performance, he does not have to try because every one knows he is a nellie, but his singing voice is thin, sharp and strong but also irritating to the point of annoying and shattering those brilliant Queen songs some written by Freddie.

Mr Wight wrote: May & Taylor are two desperate guys in there 70s and will go along what the nancy boy wants and sometimes i honestly think they have forgotten what Queen stood for. Dementia is setting in with those two jokers now and time to stop abusing what was such an enigma in the rock world 30 years ago.

snifflese wrote: So if feathers don't have much to do with Freddie's sexuality and performing in them was ok, then what does make up or Adam's glitzy outfits have to do with his sexuality? Whatever is good for the goose if good for the gander. Elvis had some of the most outrageous "onesies with bell bottoms" out there and no one ever made a big deal of his sexuality. Adam laughs at his gay "pink" suit as it is part of the tongue in cheek section of the show. Just like Freddie with some of his eclectic outfits. Adam certainly doesn't show up to affairs in pink, but even if he did, so what?? They are entertainers and the costuming to fit with each part of the show makes it a show! It is fun to see Brian and Adam in matching gold and Brian with bat wings on his cape (kind of), or maiching red black silver, when Brian had that cool long coat with guitars on it. It is all part and parcel of the show, but of course, Freddie was organic and creative and ORIGINAL and poor Adam is contrived and a wannabee! So tired of that same old crap! People aren't paying thousands of dollars to see a wanabee show.

snifflese wrote: It is part of the regalia of Queen. Crowns, coronets, capes go with Queen as does the color gold, which features prominently in staging and attire. Why should they have to give up the symbols when their name is still Queen albeit a plus. Brian and Roger are still Queen and they can keep those symbols alive if that is what they want to do. People recognize those things as Queen and it should continue.

snifflese wrote: It is still Queen and all their symbols because Roger and Brian are QUEEN. Try to tell them that they are not Queen and entitled to do what they want with symbols associated with their band. I bet you would get an earful!! Maybe you might listen for a change. What does this have to do with being entitled, to what? You are always yapping about entitled and being jealous and wanting one's way, none of which makes the least bit of sense to me. It is a band and I have zero to do with it in any way, their decisions, the ticket sales, their promotions, or their agendas. That is really nuts. They are a band, not my best buddy so none of those things come into play, maybe if I was 12. You really take this stuff personally.

snifflese wrote: Freddie was organic and creative and ORIGINAL and poor Adam is contrived and a wannabee!

runner_70 wrote:

snifflese wrote: Freddie was organic and creative and ORIGINAL and poor Adam is contrived and a wannabee!

At least you finally recognize. Very well said. Thanks a lot

BETA2015 wrote: I f you Lambert nutters on here want all the bitching to stop then go on another site specifically for Lambert fans and stop clogging Queenzone up with rants and rows over a nobody who has never ever written a decent song .

snifflese wrote: It is still Queen and all their symbols because Roger and Brian are QUEEN.

runner_70 wrote:

snifflese wrote: It is still Queen and all their symbols because Roger and Brian are QUEEN.

According to your Lame logic Freddie John Roger and Brian were Queen plus Freddie & John. See what I did there? Do you get it or need i elaborate even more on this for the smallminded like you and your glamtarts. This is Queen minus Freddie & John

runner_70 wrote:

snifflese wrote: It is still Queen and all their symbols because Roger and Brian are QUEEN.

According to your Lame logic Freddie John Roger and Brian were Queen plus Freddie & John. See what I did there? Do you get it or need i elaborate even more on this for the smallminded like you and your glamtarts. This is Queen minus Freddie & John

Vocal harmony wrote:

runner_70 wrote:

snifflese wrote: It is still Queen and all their symbols because Roger and Brian are QUEEN.

According to your Lame logic Freddie John Roger and Brian were Queen plus Freddie & John. See what I did there? Do you get it or need i elaborate even more on this for the smallminded like you and your glamtarts. This is Queen minus Freddie & John

And according to yours, a band like Genesis stopped being Genesis after Peter Gabrial left, or was it Steve Hackett, or was it oh yes they carried on being Genisis even after Collins left and they Recorded and toured with Ray Wilson. . . Deep Purple, Black Sabbath, ELP lost Palmer gained Powel then eventually reformed. Queen is Queen. . . Still has the two guys Freddie joined. So Queen are Queen plus a singer. . . . The best guy for the job.

runner_70 wrote:

Vocal harmony wrote:

runner_70 wrote:

snifflese wrote: It is still Queen and all their symbols because Roger and Brian are QUEEN.

According to your Lame logic Freddie John Roger and Brian were Queen plus Freddie & John. See what I did there? Do you get it or need i elaborate even more on this for the smallminded like you and your glamtarts. This is Queen minus Freddie & John

And according to yours, a band like Genesis stopped being Genesis after Peter Gabrial left, or was it Steve Hackett, or was it oh yes they carried on being Genisis even after Collins left and they Recorded and toured with Ray Wilson. . . Deep Purple, Black Sabbath, ELP lost Palmer gained Powel then eventually reformed. Queen is Queen. . . Still has the two guys Freddie joined. So Queen are Queen plus a singer. . . . The best guy for the job.

How about the bassplayer you dipshit

JAZZ wrote: Genesis Black Sabbath etc were normal rock bands and they did not have the greatest front man that ever graced a stage like Queen did in Freddie, Mercury is the exception to the rules here and so should never have been attempted to replace.

JAZZ wrote: Vocal Harmony I do not have to have to query Steve Perry fans on anybody because Freddie is the greatest male rock vocalist ever, so stamp your feet as much as you want but nobody else gets a look in as far as that subject is concerned! Freddie can blow any one away with his magnificent performances and the whole of the music industry knows he is the ultimate performer.

BJOU wrote: I dont mean literally been replaced but Lambert is in his place with lead vocals, and those songs do not sound the same. Queens music has lost soul since freddie is not there to sing those tunes

MisterCosmicc wrote:

snifflese wrote: MM - Truly milking the profits from Freddie and riding on Queen's coattails, but that is OK, because he doesn't threaten Freddie. No one would ever think he is better than Freddie, but Queen fans secretly worry that there might be some people who think Adam is a wonderful stand in for Freddie and that threatens them, so of course, they have to say they hate him. Makes perfect psychological sense. I know there are some Queen fans that don't care for Adam's voice and the fact it is not as rock as Freddie, but I think there are more who feel threatened by Adam and the accolades he is getting from concert goers.. YMMV!

Adam's voice is absolutely boring to me. No turn on. Adam isn't a threat, he's just not a rock 'n' roller. He doesn't have a powerful voice. I'd like to see Roger and Brian do solo tours.

snifflese wrote: What do you want them to do? Life goes on and if you stay back in the past, you are sure to be unhappy, which is your choice.

runner_70 wrote:
Maylor are the ones who live in the past. Grabbing this karaoke twat and goin on endless Greatest Hits shit tours, calling this mess "Queen" (plus or minus who gives a fuck it is till not QUEEN) and pretending to be still relevant.

You miss the point, they are playing live for thousands of fans who still want to see them, some shows sold out straight away so there's clearly a demand, why shouldn't they go out and play live if they enjoy it and the fans want it? Who want's to be doing things they don't enjoy at their age. And they aren't pretending to be still relevant, they are, it's obvious when you look beyond this board.

rockchic65 wrote:

runner_70 wrote: Maylor are the ones who live in the past. Grabbing this karaoke twat and goin on endless Greatest Hits shit tours, calling this mess "Queen" (plus or minus who gives a fuck it is till not QUEEN) and pretending to be still relevant.

You miss the point, they are playing live for thousands of fans who still want to see them, some shows sold out straight away so there's clearly a demand, why shouldn't they go out and play live if they enjoy it and the fans want it? Who want's to be doing things they don't enjoy at their age. And they aren't pretending to be still relevant, they are, it's obvious when you look beyond this board.

At least you agree (again) that they are non relevant and a nostalgia act. A sad one

snifflese wrote: Queen is now more relevant than it has been since Freddie passed on. With the tours and now that wonderful Biopic, people are excited again about their songs and their history. You wouldn't have that many people going to a movie or the tour almost immediately selling out, if people did not find Queen relevant. Sure it is nostalgia to some point, but that is not a bad thing at all. Maybe you are convinced your rantings have some merit, but I don't think many rational people do. They have to be relevant to you or you wouldn't waste so much time on here mouthing off.

snifflese wrote: Only the millions who have almost bought out the tour in one day. They had to add dates the first day. I doubt they are going because they don't like it. The show is a wonderful musical spectacle and everyone (almost) loves it. Just read the reviews. They certainly can't all be wrong.

runner_70 wrote: You still think they buy tickets because of Lamebird? How delusional can you get. If they called themselves " Maylor and a twat" which would be the fitting name they would play dive Bars. They just sell tickets because they label this crap as Queen

BJOU wrote: Rockchic The Tours that Paul done with Queen never had so much advertising and hype as Adam is having with Queen. So basically it is unfair to say Adam sold out faster when in essence Paul Rodgers is a bigger dynamic artist than Adam.

BJOU wrote: Rockchic The Tours that Paul done with Queen never had so much advertising and hype as Adam is having with Queen. So basically it is unfair to say Adam sold out faster when in essence Paul Rodgers is a bigger dynamic artist than Adam.

BJOU wrote: Rockchic The Tours that Paul done with Queen never had so much advertising and hype as Adam is having with Queen. So basically it is unfair to say Adam sold out faster when in essence Paul Rodgers is a bigger dynamic artist than Adam.

runner_70 wrote:

BJOU wrote: Rockchic The Tours that Paul done with Queen never had so much advertising and hype as Adam is having with Queen. So basically it is unfair to say Adam sold out faster when in essence Paul Rodgers is a bigger dynamic artist than Adam.

In Europe the Tickets sold equal if Not better. They played Cologne stadium with Paul in front of 26.000. With Lamebird they sold 15.000 tickets in 2015 at the same place. In America it might be different because of Lameturds AI story. In Europe noone cares about him and he still is unknown. They lost a lot of the old school rock fans here. QPR was credible QAL is laughable. And the 2019 tickets sell because of the movie hype not because of their twat singer

Sealion wrote:

runner_70 wrote:

BJOU wrote: Rockchic The Tours that Paul done with Queen never had so much advertising and hype as Adam is having with Queen. So basically it is unfair to say Adam sold out faster when in essence Paul Rodgers is a bigger dynamic artist than Adam.

In Europe the Tickets sold equal if Not better. They played Cologne stadium with Paul in front of 26.000. With Lamebird they sold 15.000 tickets in 2015 at the same place. In America it might be different because of Lameturds AI story. In Europe noone cares about him and he still is unknown. They lost a lot of the old school rock fans here. QPR was credible QAL is laughable. And the 2019 tickets sell because of the movie hype not because of their twat singer

Get your facts straight, man. Q+AL sold 27.000 tickets 2016 in Cologne Stadium. I was there and the rain was pouring down hard in a thunderstorm, that lasted from 2 hours before, until one hour after the concert. The main station got struck by lightning that evening. It was terrifying and everyone was soaked to the bones. „Thunderbolt and Lightning - very , very frightening“ had NEVER been so true. The thunder was occasionally louder than the music in that stadium. So, no casual or last minute attendants that night. Lol. Believe me, THAT was an adventure and a gig, that I‘ll never forget. And I‘ve seen so many... The 15.000 were 2015 in the sold out LANXESS arena.

snifflese wrote: You are just full of it, dude. If you weren't there personally, no one cares what your buddies think, they are more than likely delusional like you. If Sealion says he was there, I will take his word over yours any day of the week. Paul Roger is fine, No one says they hate him or curse about him like you do about Adam. He plays instruments and sings songs, but he is a terrible fit for Queen. Lots of singers wouldn't work for Queen, but no one here says they hate them. I just personally find him boring. I don't care for that kind of rock or his deeper, growly voice. It isn't my cup of tea. I like the hair metal and higher pitched voices and singers that are more charismatic. Playing and writing have nothing to do with vocal and being a front man. There are lots of song writers all over America. So what? That doesn't make them a great fit for Queen. The vocals are what it is all about!

runner_70 wrote: You are just delusional. A lot of my friends were therw and the stadium was not even half full. Funny seeing the hate from glamtarts for Paul Rodgers (not Rogers like stupid sniffcunt is calling him). He is a musician can play instruments and write songs. Something lameturd is not able even if his life depended on it. He is a sad AI Runner up and a useless Karaoke ladyboy.

runner_70 wrote: Lol dont believe anything you read. Still 25000 is also embarrassing even if it was way less. It is a 50000 stadium. What does that tell you????

SweetCaroline wrote: Okay, so Marc Martel is not a “ladyboy.” He plays the piano. Does anyone know why Brian and Roger have chosen to tour with Adam instead of Marc?

runner_70 wrote:

Sealion wrote:

runner_70 wrote:

BJOU wrote: Rockchic The Tours that Paul done with Queen never had so much advertising and hype as Adam is having with Queen. So basically it is unfair to say Adam sold out faster when in essence Paul Rodgers is a bigger dynamic artist than Adam.

In Europe the Tickets sold equal if Not better. They played Cologne stadium with Paul in front of 26.000. With Lamebird they sold 15.000 tickets in 2015 at the same place. In America it might be different because of Lameturds AI story. In Europe noone cares about him and he still is unknown. They lost a lot of the old school rock fans here. QPR was credible QAL is laughable. And the 2019 tickets sell because of the movie hype not because of their twat singer

Get your facts straight, man. Q+AL sold 27.000 tickets 2016 in Cologne Stadium. I was there and the rain was pouring down hard in a thunderstorm, that lasted from 2 hours before, until one hour after the concert. The main station got struck by lightning that evening. It was terrifying and everyone was soaked to the bones. „Thunderbolt and Lightning - very , very frightening“ had NEVER been so true. The thunder was occasionally louder than the music in that stadium. So, no casual or last minute attendants that night. Lol. Believe me, THAT was an adventure and a gig, that I‘ll never forget. And I‘ve seen so many... The 15.000 were 2015 in the sold out LANXESS arena.

You are just delusional. A lot of my friends were therw and the stadium was not even half full.

rockchic65 wrote:

runner_70 wrote: Lol dont believe anything you read. Still 25000 is also embarrassing even if it was way less. It is a 50000 stadium. What does that tell you????

But you claimed there were 26,000 there for QPR, hardly a big difference and still a long way from 50,000, is that not equally embarrassing then? Keep digging lol!!!

SweetCaroline wrote: Okay, so Marc Martel is not a “ladyboy.” He plays the piano. Does anyone know why Brian and Roger have chosen to tour with Adam instead of Marc?

Holly2003 wrote: Zoroastrians have magic powers, like Harry Potter or Dr Who. Fred, Brian and Rog were into that big time. Google "Freddie at my hamster" for more details.

Holly2003 wrote: Zoroastrians have magic powers, like Harry Potter or Dr Who. Fred, Brian and Rog were into that big time. Google "Freddie at my hamster" for more details.

Sealion wrote:

runner_70 wrote:

Sealion wrote:

runner_70 wrote:

BJOU wrote: Rockchic The Tours that Paul done with Queen never had so much advertising and hype as Adam is having with Queen. So basically it is unfair to say Adam sold out faster when in essence Paul Rodgers is a bigger dynamic artist than Adam.

In Europe the Tickets sold equal if Not better. They played Cologne stadium with Paul in front of 26.000. With Lamebird they sold 15.000 tickets in 2015 at the same place. In America it might be different because of Lameturds AI story. In Europe noone cares about him and he still is unknown. They lost a lot of the old school rock fans here. QPR was credible QAL is laughable. And the 2019 tickets sell because of the movie hype not because of their twat singer

Get your facts straight, man. Q+AL sold 27.000 tickets 2016 in Cologne Stadium. I was there and the rain was pouring down hard in a thunderstorm, that lasted from 2 hours before, until one hour after the concert. The main station got struck by lightning that evening. It was terrifying and everyone was soaked to the bones. „Thunderbolt and Lightning - very , very frightening“ had NEVER been so true. The thunder was occasionally louder than the music in that stadium. So, no casual or last minute attendants that night. Lol. Believe me, THAT was an adventure and a gig, that I‘ll never forget. And I‘ve seen so many... The 15.000 were 2015 in the sold out LANXESS arena.

You are just delusional. A lot of my friends were therw and the stadium was not even half full.

Why am I delusional? 27.000 people in a stadium, that holds 50.000 is only about half full, you idiot. And it was about the same with PR. Only that you will say, that it was halfway full with PR and half empty with AL.

runner_70 wrote:

Sealion wrote:

runner_70 wrote:

Sealion wrote:

runner_70 wrote:

BJOU wrote: Rockchic The Tours that Paul done with Queen never had so much advertising and hype as Adam is having with Queen. So basically it is unfair to say Adam sold out faster when in essence Paul Rodgers is a bigger dynamic artist than Adam.

In Europe the Tickets sold equal if Not better. They played Cologne stadium with Paul in front of 26.000. With Lamebird they sold 15.000 tickets in 2015 at the same place. In America it might be different because of Lameturds AI story. In Europe noone cares about him and he still is unknown. They lost a lot of the old school rock fans here. QPR was credible QAL is laughable. And the 2019 tickets sell because of the movie hype not because of their twat singer

Get your facts straight, man. Q+AL sold 27.000 tickets 2016 in Cologne Stadium. I was there and the rain was pouring down hard in a thunderstorm, that lasted from 2 hours before, until one hour after the concert. The main station got struck by lightning that evening. It was terrifying and everyone was soaked to the bones. „Thunderbolt and Lightning - very , very frightening“ had NEVER been so true. The thunder was occasionally louder than the music in that stadium. So, no casual or last minute attendants that night. Lol. Believe me, THAT was an adventure and a gig, that I‘ll never forget. And I‘ve seen so many... The 15.000 were 2015 in the sold out LANXESS arena.

You are just delusional. A lot of my friends were therw and the stadium was not even half full.

Why am I delusional? 27.000 people in a stadium, that holds 50.000 is only about half full, you idiot. And it was about the same with PR. Only that you will say, that it was halfway full with PR and half empty with AL.

QAL playe din front of 1/4 full stadium. With Freddie they played in fron of 50.000. What does that tell you you scumbag

BJOU wrote: Ticket sales are irrelevant because the spirit of Queen has long gone on that stage.... Freddie gave Queen the ambience of something grand, regal and massive so it is not really worth arguing because Adam has none of those things.

Vocal harmony wrote:

BJOU wrote: Ticket sales are irrelevant because the spirit of Queen has long gone on that stage.... Freddie gave Queen the ambience of something grand, regal and massive so it is not really worth arguing because Adam has none of those things.

To make that kind of statement you really need to have experienced what you're talking about and actually stand or sit in an arena. The ticket sales argument goes both ways, plenty of people have used Queen's ticket sales or concert attendance numbers to illustrate their success or their position in popular musical history.

SweetCaroline wrote: Okay, so Marc Martel is not a “ladyboy.” He plays the piano. Does anyone know why Brian and Roger have chosen to tour with Adam instead of Marc?

BJOU wrote: VH I am right, Adam does not have any magical presence or charisma like Freddie had to command an audience, it takes a very special gifted person to make a audience go wild and Freddie had that magic in bucket loads. Adam is just your run of the mill singer who just sings tribute songs and according to all them glambert's us Queen fans have to be eternally grateful because he is keeping Queen music alive. Believe the hype but Freddie is more than capable to keep his own legacy alive, and he does not need anyone to rely on.

BJOU wrote: Rockchic Adam seems like he has a full time job with Queen now and his solo career is dwindling away. Freddie is the greatest front man ever and that is official. Elvis, Jackson, and the likes cannot match Mercury's magnificence and magic on a stage. Lambert can not be called a showman because i have never heard of such a thing for a guy like that who is singing karaoke Queen songs for a living.

rockchic65 wrote: ever get people going to see them but they're all different. Elvis, Prince, Michael Jackson, George Michael, all had stage presence and charisma but all very different from each other and none of them similar to Freddie but their stage presence worked for their audience.

Vocal harmony wrote: "Being a showman has nothing to do with what you're singing it's about being able to connect with an audience" Rockchic you've got it, absolutely. If you were lucky enough to see Van Halen in the early 80's David Lee Roth had an amazing command of the audience with out being a great singer. Great performer. Paul Stanley ( Kiss) is another great front man who's fans would defiantly say was/is Freddie's equal in showman stakes. Freddie connected with most audiences, most of he time but not always. . . . Love Of My Life on the Queen Rock Montreal DVD sees Freddie unable to get the audience to sing the song to him, he does recover it by performing it himself. So like any other front man her wasn't perfect. AL isn't Freddie or in competition with him ( although in some people's minds he is) he connects with the audience and carries the show well, when needed. It's a shame that people who haven't been to a Q+AL show feel they are best placed to comment, and watching YouTube or TV is nothing like being at the gig.

Vocal harmony wrote: "Being a showman has nothing to do with what you're singing it's about being able to connect with an audience" Rockchic you've got it, absolutely. If you were lucky enough to see Van Halen in the early 80's David Lee Roth had an amazing command of the audience with out being a great singer. Great performer. Paul Stanley ( Kiss) is another great front man who's fans would defiantly say was/is Freddie's equal in showman stakes. Freddie connected with most audiences, most of he time but not always. . . . Love Of My Life on the Queen Rock Montreal DVD sees Freddie unable to get the audience to sing the song to him, he does recover it by performing it himself. So like any other front man her wasn't perfect. AL isn't Freddie or in competition with him ( although in some people's minds he is) he connects with the audience and carries the show well, when needed. It's a shame that people who haven't been to a Q+AL show feel they are best placed to comment, and watching YouTube or TV is nothing like being at the gig.

BJOU wrote: VH Leave Kiss & Van Halen to one side they are not considered the greatest performers of all time Freddie IS so no competition but good try. Adam Lambert has done nothing to be even considered a showman unless i am missing some amazing thing he has done? Freddie wrote the greatest 45 single ever, played live to some of the biggest crowds ever for a rock band and stole Live Aid to over a billion people, Now Adam Lambert what has he done?

BJOU wrote: VH Leave Kiss & Van Halen to one side they are not considered the greatest performers of all time Freddie IS so no competition but good try. Adam Lambert has done nothing to be even considered a showman unless i am missing some amazing thing he has done? Freddie wrote the greatest 45 single ever, played live to some of the biggest crowds ever for a rock band and stole Live Aid to over a billion people, Now Adam Lambert what has he done?

rockchic65 wrote:

BJOU wrote: VH Leave Kiss & Van Halen to one side they are not considered the greatest performers of all time Freddie IS so no competition but good try. Adam Lambert has done nothing to be even considered a showman unless i am missing some amazing thing he has done? Freddie wrote the greatest 45 single ever, played live to some of the biggest crowds ever for a rock band and stole Live Aid to over a billion people, Now Adam Lambert what has he done?

You still don't seem to be getting it, writing the greatest single ever is nothing to do with being a showman. Yes he stole Live Aid, no one would argue with that but are you seriously trying to say that if you can't compete with that you aren't a showman? Adam is a showman to his fans just like other frontmen are to their fans, what part of that don't you get? No one's comparing him to Freddie except you, he's not there to compete he's there to give a live experience of Queen music and he does an amazing job.

rockchic65 wrote:

BJOU wrote: VH Leave Kiss & Van Halen to one side they are not considered the greatest performers of all time Freddie IS so no competition but good try. Adam Lambert has done nothing to be even considered a showman unless i am missing some amazing thing he has done? Freddie wrote the greatest 45 single ever, played live to some of the biggest crowds ever for a rock band and stole Live Aid to over a billion people, Now Adam Lambert what has he done?

You still don't seem to be getting it, writing the greatest single ever is nothing to do with being a showman. Yes he stole Live Aid, no one would argue with that but are you seriously trying to say that if you can't compete with that you aren't a showman? Adam is a showman to his fans just like other frontmen are to their fans, what part of that don't you get? No one's comparing him to Freddie except you, he's not there to compete he's there to give a live experience of Queen music and he does an amazing job.

SweetCaroline wrote: I forgot — which live show did you attend that makes you an expert on Adam’s showmanship?

SweetCaroline wrote: I repeat, which live show were you at where you saw Adam “stumble on stage for two minutes?”

BJOU wrote: All you silly girls on here do not seem to be getting much male support for this clown AL. What i am going on about is AL is not worthy of even been in a group like Queen. He trashed "Strictly" with a limp flat rendition of "We are the champions" even bettered by the cast of "We will rock you" He only sings at high raised levels and you account that as a good singer. He has no soul he has no charisma he is boring and flat, and many men hate the sight of him. Just girls on here that have not seen the light what a complete utter hype AL is. One day you will all wake up and be disgusted that you ever supported this nobody in the music world. I wonder how many more painful years we have to endure this fool?

Iron Butterfly wrote: I actually wonder what ( rational, like yourself ) AL fans think of him live. His solo shows were so different than the Q+AL shows of course. It would be interesting to see if he tours next what that will be like, but in all honesty I don't think he will do a solo tour for at least the next year.

SweetCaroline wrote: New albums of 2019 ..... link

Holly2003 wrote: I agree with you about Elvis. That would've been a blast. I have lots of regrets about artists I didn't get to see -- The Stones, Rush, UFO, The Who, Tina Turner, and Thin Lizzy come to mind. But I saw Elton, Queen, Fleetwood Mac, Iron Maiden, Pearl Jam, ACDC, Status Quo, Alice Cooper, Scorpions, Big Country and many more so I'm happy enough.

Iron Butterfly wrote:

Holly2003 wrote: I agree with you about Elvis. That would've been a blast. I have lots of regrets about artists I didn't get to see -- The Stones, Rush, UFO, The Who, Tina Turner, and Thin Lizzy come to mind. But I saw Elton, Queen, Fleetwood Mac, Iron Maiden, Pearl Jam, ACDC, Status Quo, Alice Cooper, Scorpions, Big Country and many more so I'm happy enough.

You saw Elton John! Mind if I ask which year? He's on my bucket list of ones I want to see the most.

Holly2003 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

Holly2003 wrote: I agree with you about Elvis. That would've been a blast. I have lots of regrets about artists I didn't get to see -- The Stones, Rush, UFO, The Who, Tina Turner, and Thin Lizzy come to mind. But I saw Elton, Queen, Fleetwood Mac, Iron Maiden, Pearl Jam, ACDC, Status Quo, Alice Cooper, Scorpions, Big Country and many more so I'm happy enough.

You saw Elton John! Mind if I ask which year? He's on my bucket list of ones I want to see the most.

Good question. I didn't get to keep the ticket so I can't remember exactly. All I can do is narrow it down to mid-late 1980s, Kings Hall Belfast. In the top 3 shows I've ever been to for a fun vibe and audience participation.

SweetCaroline wrote: Anyone who wants to see Elton better hurry up because he is on his official farewell tour.

SweetCaroline wrote: Adam’s journey ...., link

SweetCaroline wrote: “Vocal powerhouse” !!!!!

SweetCaroline wrote: Go to a show, dummy! He just about brings down the rafters!

runner_70 wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: Go to a show, dummy! He just about brings down the rafters!

He brings a tear to my eye when he rapes a Queen song in his infamous Lhama Goat style

SweetCaroline wrote: Adam’s soaring rendition of “Believe” is a highlight: link

BJOU wrote: sweetcaroline Ever though about becoming Adam's manager? You spend such a lot of time on here i guess you are an old woman with a toy boy crush on that oddity ?

SweetCaroline wrote: Hmmm, I wonder why some so-called rock fans think it is unacceptable when Adam sings some cover songs at his solo concerts but it is just wonderful when bands like “Thunder” have covers in more than half of their set lists (or are they just brown nosing the QOL moderator again).

Sparkle wrote: sweetcaroline Ever though about becoming Adam's manager? You spend such a lot of time on here i guess you are an old woman with a toy boy crush on that oddity ?

SweetCaroline wrote: I thought that would get a rise out of you. Everyone else has a “cool set list.” Even Brian and Roger don’t have a cool set list because they don’t include what Miss Knoe It All wants them to include! I really don’t care what goes on at QOL or here with the trolls. I just wanted to say you are not fooling anyone.

SweetCaroline wrote: Hmmm, I wonder why some so-called rock fans think it is unacceptable when Adam sings some cover songs at his solo concerts but it is just wonderful when bands like “Thunder” have covers in more than half of their set lists (or are they just brown nosing the QOL moderator again).

SweetCaroline wrote: And you don’t know what Adam sounds like live because you have never seen him, which proves the point I have made all along. Thunder doesn’t tour in my country so I can’t see them live. I have been to many live shows of other artists and bands so no, I am not only in the QAL/Adam “bubble.” I did not come to Queen forums to defend Adam. I came because I was so excited about the collaboration, never expecting to be met by the nasty, negative group of so-called Queen fans. I expected them to be as happy as I am that the show has been able to go on with two original iconic members of the band.

runner_70 wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: Hmmm, I wonder why some so-called rock fans think it is unacceptable when Adam sings some cover songs at his solo concerts but it is just wonderful when bands like “Thunder” have covers in more than half of their set lists (or are they just brown nosing the QOL moderator again).

You obviously never heard thunder live. I do not like their studio albums that much but they kill it live. And when they do covers they sound good and they are credible. Unlike Lamebert who sucks and is ONLY doing covers as he is unable to deliver a good song by himself. And a Thunder show is far from being "full of covers" as they have lots of original material by themselves. Why don't you shut up when it comes to rock music as you are obviously clueless.

Sparkle wrote: Adam Lambert has made an entire career out of singing covers. He cannot have that much faith in his own solo crap songs.

Sparkle wrote: Well there you go a singer dropped by his record label, does not take much figuring out why does it? Poor record sales and the label knows he is plastic.

SweetCaroline wrote: Kennedy Center Honors, December 26, 2018 ..... link

Iron Butterfly wrote: Tonight's the night he will appear on TV to sing another cover or two!! You know, instead of his own music!

SweetCaroline wrote: He is singing Cher’s music in honor of her being honored. What do YOU want him to sing — Ghost Town ????

anadamfan wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote: Tonight's the night he will appear on TV to sing another cover or two!! You know, instead of his own music!

Why are you always so negative? It’s an honour to be asked to sing at The Kennedy Center Honors. Adam is there to honor Cher. He was especially chosen and invited by the committee to do so. The artists are performing in front of a very selected audience, usually including the President of the United States. It‘s an honor for every artist and a big deal to sing there. Apparently Adam‘s performance of „Believe“ is considered a highlight. He sang two songs, at the gala on December, 3rd: „Believe“ and a duet with Cindy Lauper. Both made it into the TV broadcast for tonight. Adam will be seen in many households across the country. THiS is huge. Despite having no new music out for years. It’s something to really look forward to! :D And his new music will follow soon.

Iron Butterfly wrote: I guess if his two covers will be shown, Cyndi won't be singing a tribute to Cher by herself, which is surprising to me since they are friends.

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote: I guess if his two covers will be shown, Cyndi won't be singing a tribute to Cher by herself, which is surprising to me since they are friends.

Cyndi did turn back time before their duet so that will probably be shown since it's on their promo vid.

SweetCaroline wrote: I’m sorry I missed “Hamilton” when it came to my town this past summer. Hope there is another opportunity in the future. Looks amazing. Nothing like live theater!

SweetCaroline wrote: His duets with Angie Miller of “Titanium,” with Leona Lewis on “Girl Crush” and with the X Factor Australia runner-up were all special and outstanding blends of their voices. I forgot what was the other duet he did with Cyndi a few years ago.

Brancelli wrote: After watching again, i'm fairly certain the high note was D5. Not all that high really (for Adam) so I think it was a bit tame. Of course, I think he's lost a bit of his upper range over time. Regardless, I enjoyed the performance.

Iron Butterfly wrote:

Brancelli wrote: After watching again, i'm fairly certain the high note was D5. Not all that high really (for Adam) so I think it was a bit tame. Of course, I think he's lost a bit of his upper range over time. Regardless, I enjoyed the performance.

I honestly didn't know which notes he hit, whoops.

SweetCaroline wrote: link

Brancelli wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

Brancelli wrote: After watching again, i'm fairly certain the high note was D5. Not all that high really (for Adam) so I think it was a bit tame. Of course, I think he's lost a bit of his upper range over time. Regardless, I enjoyed the performance.

I honestly didn't know which notes he hit, whoops.

I kinda wish he would've sustained it a little longer, cause it is a good note there, but he may have lost the pitch a bit if he tried. But really, that's just nitpicking and I think he did himself well tonight. I jsut watched it on youtube, I'm assuming it made the show and was televised?

Brancelli wrote: Happy Holidays, Merry Christmas, etc, to everyone here. Even the trolls. We may agree. We may disagree. But where we are family is that we are all passionate music lovers. I have no problem if you hate Adam with Queen. Subjectively, I'm still a bit dubious about it myself. Nonetheless, objectively, the guy is a very skilled singer.

Iron Butterfly wrote:

Brancelli wrote: Happy Holidays, Merry Christmas, etc, to everyone here. Even the trolls. We may agree. We may disagree. But where we are family is that we are all passionate music lovers. I have no problem if you hate Adam with Queen. Subjectively, I'm still a bit dubious about it myself. Nonetheless, objectively, the guy is a very skilled singer.

Hope you are enjoying the holidays :). I respect what you are saying here. I don't hate AL with Brian and Roger. But I know I'm pretty much hated here and as if I'm like Hitler someone said about me just recently. Thing is, it wasn't Runner who actually said that. A Glambert said it. Go figure ;-).

runner_70 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

Brancelli wrote: Happy Holidays, Merry Christmas, etc, to everyone here. Even the trolls. We may agree. We may disagree. But where we are family is that we are all passionate music lovers. I have no problem if you hate Adam with Queen. Subjectively, I'm still a bit dubious about it myself. Nonetheless, objectively, the guy is a very skilled singer.

Hope you are enjoying the holidays :). I respect what you are saying here. I don't hate AL with Brian and Roger. But I know I'm pretty much hated here and as if I'm like Hitler someone said about me just recently. Thing is, it wasn't Runner who actually said that. A Glambert said it. Go figure ;-).

Might be a bit pointless for a German to come up with Hitler. Disgusting comment nonetheless. Cher had to cry because it was so bad. Usual oversinging with his "Oooooohhhhhaaaaaaaaoooooooooahhhhhhaaaaaa"'s which still sounds awful and shows his powerless paperthin voice to the fullest. Poor Cher.

This one is a bit better quality: link Of course, it's not great either, and I expect something HD will show up in the next couple of days. Btw, the D5 is at 3:11.

Brancelli wrote: Just watched it. A little worried when you mentioned the high notes, but I was pleased. A very good performance. The high notes weren't that bad, and not really even that high for him. I think D5 or Eb5 was the highest, but I need to watch again.

runner_70 wrote: Cher had to cry because it was so bad. Usual oversinging with his "Oooooohhhhhaaaaaaaaoooooooooahhhhhhaaaaaa"'s which still sounds awful and shows his powerless paperthin voice to the fullest. Poor Cher. How many songs has the overweight goat destroyed so far? And no I was not at the Cher show - but it sounded like shit. I have ears! And the fat ladyboy is not too pleasing on the eyes as well. Just noticed: At 3:00 onwards the guy in the audience is laughing as Lamebird is starting to oversing - priceless!

Brancelli wrote: After watching again, i'm fairly certain the high note was D5. Not all that high really (for Adam) so I think it was a bit tame. Of course, I think he's lost a bit of his upper range over time. Regardless, I enjoyed the performance.

Sparkle wrote: SweetCaroline Michael Buble is one of the most cheesiest american singers going and hardly taken serious by real music lovers, he usually comes out from his rock at christmas time to milk the public of money. Adam Lambert is no better, if he was a credible artist he would not rely on Queens back catalogue to make a living.

snifflese wrote: The only laughable thing is you three idiots who once again are so jealous of and hate Adam so much that you can find fault with this impeccable performance.

Sparkle wrote: SweetCaroline Michael Buble is one of the most cheesiest american singers going and hardly taken serious by real music lovers, he usually comes out from his rock at christmas time to milk the public of money. Adam Lambert is no better, if he was a credible artist he would not rely on Queens back catalogue to make a living.

rockchic65 wrote:

Sparkle wrote: SweetCaroline Michael Buble is one of the most cheesiest american singers going and hardly taken serious by real music lovers, he usually comes out from his rock at christmas time to milk the public of money. Adam Lambert is no better, if he was a credible artist he would not rely on Queens back catalogue to make a living.

And what exactly would you suggest he sing when touring with Bri & Roger, all the stuff off his own albums? Do you not see how ridiculous your comment is? He sings Queen songs when touring with Queen and songs by whoever he's honouring at a tribute show or do you think he should have sung two fux instead of Believe in honour of Cher? Do try to at least make some sense with your posts!!!

runner_70 wrote: He should do his own stuff if he wants to be a credible solo artist which he isnt - he is a laughing stock. His whole "career" is built on honoring (anyone who is available). I wonder who really wants to be honored by this wanker

snifflese wrote: The only laughable thing is you three idiots who once again are so jealous of and hate Adam so much that you can find fault with this impeccable performance. It is trending world wide with nothing but extreme praise for Adam. If you don't like him or anything he does even before he does it, go post elsewhere and then you can rattle on about dear Freddie all you want. THIS is not the THREAD for that. Are you so dense that you can't understand that concept?? You just have to clog up and ruin this part of the forum with your unmitigated hate that none of us care to read. Find something that gives you joy and leave others to their own personal joy. It was an amazing, nuanced, lovely performance that touched Cher and the hearts of millions of people. If Cher found it to be sublime, that should be good enough for anyone. After all, it is her music. You three must have tin ears in addition to all your other not so lovely traits!

Iron Butterfly wrote: Bloody hell. AL was pretty good, except for the high notes. Yay Cindi! She's rocking it! I still don't think duets are AL's strong point.

Iron Butterfly wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote: Bloody hell. AL was pretty good, except for the high notes. Yay Cindi! She's rocking it! I still don't think duets are AL's strong point.

This is what I said. Of course that is offensive or insulting to a Glambert here.

runner_70 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote: Bloody hell. AL was pretty good, except for the high notes. Yay Cindi! She's rocking it! I still don't think duets are AL's strong point.

This is what I said. Of course that is offensive or insulting to a Glambert here.

Escpecially when waht you REALLY wanted to say is that he sucked donkey's balls as usual. ;) I really admire you to hold back so much ;)

SweetCaroline wrote: “(Cher) said, ‘Tried 2 write Feelings About Adam Lambert Singing Believe In Words,but Cant seem 2.When Your senses are Overwhelmed All Can you feel with your ??.

Brancelli wrote: Usually if there's an artist I don't like I simply don't listen or click on any links that people post about them. I would just ignore it. Not sure why you keep torturing yourself by listening to Adam Lambert and posting about him online. Seems like a waste of time.

SweetCaroline wrote: And that amazing high note brought the audience to their feet. So Miss Icy stop trying to pass yourself off as some kind of a music expert because you obviously know nothing about it. All you do is take up precious bandwidth with your non-stop nonsensical opinions.

SweetCaroline wrote: And that amazing high note brought the audience to their feet. So Miss Icy stop trying to pass yourself off as some kind of a music expert because you obviously know nothing about it. All you do is take up precious bandwidth with your non-stop nonsensical opinions.

SweetCaroline wrote: They love that high note in Canada! link

Iron Butterfly wrote:

runner_70 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote: Bloody hell. AL was pretty good, except for the high notes. Yay Cindi! She's rocking it! I still don't think duets are AL's strong point.

This is what I said. Of course that is offensive or insulting to a Glambert here.

Escpecially when waht you REALLY wanted to say is that he sucked donkey's balls as usual. ;) I really admire you to hold back so much ;)

I don't know why he went for the high notes in the first place, the Cher song didn't use it IIRC. I do think it was good except for the high notes. Sorry, scouts honor I'm not a Glambert. You just watch the two Glamberts come here to have a go at me ;-).

Sparkle wrote: Rockchic I honestly do not think Adam should be singing with anyone but himself. Singing covers is his trademark now and that makes him cheap second rate artist in my estimates. Queen (Bri & Rog) have become lost in there careers taking on this pantomine freak who yes got lucky to be fronting the UKs biggest rock band of all time but it certainly does not impress many ardent rock fans at all. Queen are just going in circles like a demented dog chasing its tail, touring the world with a karaoke song list, it goes on and on and on and one...........zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz boring.

Sparkle wrote: Rockchic Yes it does show that maylor do not care a shit about who is in the audience and who they have as front man now. Queen has been an absolute disgrace since Freddie died and Jhn leaving, they are a complete joke and no serious heavy rock fan would honestly support them now. They look like a cheesy eurovision act.

runner_70 wrote: It is the definition of cheesiness. QUeen schmaltzy las vegas style with a goat singer

Go to a QAL show before spouting off about it! This is Adam’s first performance of “Believe” ..... link link

SweetCaroline wrote: Go to a QAL show before spouting off about it! This is Adam’s first performance of “Believe” ..... link link

Sparkle wrote: Rockchic Yes it does show that maylor do not care a shit about who is in the audience and who they have as front man now. Queen has been an absolute disgrace since Freddie died and Jhn leaving, they are a complete joke and no serious heavy rock fan would honestly support them now. They look like a cheesy eurovision act.

SweetCaroline wrote: Go to a QAL show before spouting off about it! This is Adam’s first performance of “Believe” ..... link link

SweetCaroline wrote: Do Sam and Adele sound better live than on the radio? I don’t think they toured near where I live.

SweetCaroline wrote: My point has always been about seeing artists live — not on TV or on YouTube or on a studio recording. Adam is better live than on an autotuned recording. When he performs live, he does not lip sync like some artists do. Like Bri says, they are live and dangerous. Maybe I would LOVE Adele and Sam live, but I do not like their mournful whiney recordings.

tomcat39 wrote: Because she's absolutely batshit fucking crazy and even Adam's fans wish she'd shut the hell up. Idk why people give her the time of day. I liked Believe, I liked the high notes. I don't think Cher not doing high notes was a requirement for him to. She's more an alto vocally anyway. The whole song is autotuned, that doesn't mean his version should be.

Iron Butterfly wrote:

tomcat39 wrote: Because she's absolutely batshit fucking crazy and even Adam's fans wish she'd shut the hell up. Idk why people give her the time of day. I liked Believe, I liked the high notes. I don't think Cher not doing high notes was a requirement for him to. She's more an alto vocally anyway. The whole song is autotuned, that doesn't mean his version should be.

I guess I hope one day I can have a civil discussion with her, but I guess since she says as if I'm like Hitler and she pretty much hates me, I guess there's no hope of that. Sweetcaroline has her defenders however, careful you don't get on the bad side of it. I wish I liked the high notes and/or I wish he didn't add them. I guess to me it seemed out of place? Other than that, I really liked it. Really liked it, it's already one of my favorite covers I have seen/heard him do. I might get blasted by a Glambert or two here by saying this, but I'd put up there with him singing Save Me which I love him singing as well.

Brancelli wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

tomcat39 wrote: Because she's absolutely batshit fucking crazy and even Adam's fans wish she'd shut the hell up. Idk why people give her the time of day. I liked Believe, I liked the high notes. I don't think Cher not doing high notes was a requirement for him to. She's more an alto vocally anyway. The whole song is autotuned, that doesn't mean his version should be.

I guess I hope one day I can have a civil discussion with her, but I guess since she says as if I'm like Hitler and she pretty much hates me, I guess there's no hope of that. Sweetcaroline has her defenders however, careful you don't get on the bad side of it. I wish I liked the high notes and/or I wish he didn't add them. I guess to me it seemed out of place? Other than that, I really liked it. Really liked it, it's already one of my favorite covers I have seen/heard him do. I might get blasted by a Glambert or two here by saying this, but I'd put up there with him singing Save Me which I love him singing as well.

Icy, I can definitely understand your perspective, and we'll just have to respectfully agree to disagree. I happen to like the high notes, which I think aren't all that high for Adam. The are perfectly placed for me, not out of place. Now, when he first started singing We Are The Champions, that is an example where I think he went a bit overboard.

Brancelli wrote: Green is my favorite color. My wife is not particularly fond of the color green. She likes yellow. As far as colors go, yellow would be at the bottom for me. I don't tell her she's wrong and her opinion sucks, likewise she doesn't tell me I have bad taste in colors. I can see where someone might not like the high notes in Adam's rendition of Believe. It's not for everyone.

Brancelli wrote: I think if Adam had sung this song a few years ago that D5 might have been a G5, and that would've degraded the song for me. Glad he left it where he did. I see the CBS youtube has over 2 million views. Great for Mr. Lambert. He'll still never be a big star. Sorry Caroline. But I do believe he is highly respected as a singer in the music industry.

Iron Butterfly wrote:

Brancelli wrote: I think if Adam had sung this song a few years ago that D5 might have been a G5, and that would've degraded the song for me. Glad he left it where he did. I see the CBS youtube has over 2 million views. Great for Mr. Lambert. He'll still never be a big star. Sorry Caroline. But I do believe he is highly respected as a singer in the music industry.

Can I ask you why you think his voice has changed in the last few years?

Just my impression I could be totally wrong.

runner_70 wrote:

Just my impression I could be totally wrong.

You are as usual. Oversinging or not- his voice sucks and his personality as well

Sparkle wrote: That is all he can do sing cover versions, why cannot he stun with his own solo songs then? Oh i forgot his own material is poop lol

SweetCaroline wrote: Homophobia is alive and well in this forum!

SweetCaroline wrote: I agree with both Brancelli and rockchic’s posts, above. Adam’s golden opportunity may have come and gone to make that initial impact in the music industry right after Idol. He was a bit too brave at that AMA show with his controversial performance. I still think he would have stunned the audiences live and at home if he had performed “Time For Miracles.”

Sparkle wrote: Adams homosexuality is over the top from the standard gay man on the streets, he takes it to a freaky scary level.

SweetCaroline wrote: He does NOT do that. If anything he looks and acts nothing like an effeminate gay man. Adam speaks openly about being gay which scares the bejeesus out of freaky scary homophobe bigots like you!

Iron Butterfly wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: I agree with both Brancelli and rockchic’s posts, above. Adam’s golden opportunity may have come and gone to make that initial impact in the music industry right after Idol. He was a bit too brave at that AMA show with his controversial performance. I still think he would have stunned the audiences live and at home if he had performed “Time For Miracles.”

Nah, i wouldn't call him kissing his same sex bandmate brave. Gimmicky if anything. He wasn't the first to do a same sex kiss during an award show.

rockchic65 wrote:

Sparkle wrote: Adams homosexuality is over the top from the standard gay man on the streets, he takes it to a freaky scary level.

You're joking, away from the stage he's not overly gay in the way he dresses or acts the majority of the time, not that it would matter if he were.

runner_70 wrote: Nah, i wouldn't call him kissing his same sex bandmate brave. Gimmicky if anything. He wasn't the first to do a same sex kiss during an award show.

runner_70 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: I agree with both Brancelli and rockchic’s posts, above. Adam’s golden opportunity may have come and gone to make that initial impact in the music industry right after Idol. He was a bit too brave at that AMA show with his controversial performance. I still think he would have stunned the audiences live and at home if he had performed “Time For Miracles.”

Nah, i wouldn't call him kissing his same sex bandmate brave. Gimmicky if anything. He wasn't the first to do a same sex kiss during an award show.

Madonna did it with Britney ages before the Lhama. Lamebird is always late when it comes to being original. That's why he is the King of Fake

rockchic65 wrote:

runner_70 wrote: Nah, i wouldn't call him kissing his same sex bandmate brave. Gimmicky if anything. He wasn't the first to do a same sex kiss during an award show.

Madonna did it with Britney ages before the Lhama. Lamebird is always late when it comes to being original. That's why he is the King of Fake

Iron Butterfly wrote: One major difference...the Madonna kiss was done on MTV, not quite a family friendly channel. AL did his kiss on ABC, which is almost as far away as you could get from MTV. I think that was what partly behind the outrage some had for AL.

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote: One major difference...the Madonna kiss was done on MTV, not quite a family friendly channel. AL did his kiss on ABC, which is almost as far away as you could get from MTV. I think that was what partly behind the outrage some had for AL.

Ah right, I don't know anything about American TV channels.

rockchic65 wrote: Yeah Britney & Madonna did kiss and no one had a problem with it but they did with Adam kissing Tommy, they even blurred it out when reporting on it, that was one of the things he called them out for, the double standard.

runner_70 wrote: you dont know much about anything - at least not about good music and vocals.

SweetCaroline wrote: Adam is awesome! No more needs to be said! :—)

SweetCaroline wrote: Adam is awesome! No more needs to be said! :—)

SweetCaroline wrote: Go to a show! It is undeniable that he is awesome!!!!!

Sparkle wrote: Sweetcaroline I am not homophobic but Lambert is a complete embarrassment to the gay community. He makes Boy George look butch. Is he metrosexual or freakosexual?

SweetCaroline wrote: Yes, they are all awesome — Brian, Roger, Adam, Spike, Neil and Tyler! Go to a show!

SweetCaroline wrote: GO TO A SHOW OR STFU, ALL OF YOU !!!!!

rockchic65 wrote:

Sparkle wrote: Sweetcaroline I am not homophobic but Lambert is a complete embarrassment to the gay community. He makes Boy George look butch. Is he metrosexual or freakosexual?

Why does it matter what he is? He's a spokesperson for the gay community so they clearly don't find him an embarrassment. And you do know metrosexual's are straight right?

SweetCaroline wrote: I’m not pissed off but it is really stupid for people to talk about what they don’t know. Why do you feel you have to post non-stop and no one else can post without getting an immediate response from you. All I am saying is if you can’t or don’t want to go to a show then shut up about it because you have no idea what you are talking about. And I’m saying that to you and all of the other people here who have never been to a show. I have said from the beginning these shows are magnificent and not because of Adam. He is not always on the stage and I swear every single minute of what they do is amazing. It is as if Freddie himself is there producing what they do and giving his personal seal of approval. You can look at a thousand videos and never feel the thrill and excitement that their powerful music generates in person. Before the show even starts the audience is revved up and rarin’ to go. I’m going to sleep now. I have out of town company and a funeral to attend this weekend for a dear cousin who passed away on Christmas Eve.

runner_70 wrote:

rockchic65 wrote:

Sparkle wrote: Sweetcaroline I am not homophobic but Lambert is a complete embarrassment to the gay community. He makes Boy George look butch. Is he metrosexual or freakosexual?

Why does it matter what he is? He's a spokesperson for the gay community so they clearly don't find him an embarrassment. And you do know metrosexual's are straight right?

Lamebert is a spokesperson for the gay Community? Really? Is he "honoring" them the same way he is " honoring " those artists he us Covering all the Time? If so i pity the gay community. The only person he speaks for is his twat self

SweetCaroline wrote: I’m not pissed off but it is really stupid for people to talk about what they don’t know. Why do you feel you have to post non-stop and no one else can post without getting an immediate response from you. All I am saying is if you can’t or don’t want to go to a show then shut up about it because you have no idea what you are talking about. And I’m saying that to you and all of the other people here who have never been to a show. I have said from the beginning these shows are magnificent and not because of Adam. He is not always on the stage and I swear every single minute of what they do is amazing. It is as if Freddie himself is there producing what they do and giving his personal seal of approval. You can look at a thousand videos and never feel the thrill and excitement that their powerful music generates in person. Before the show even starts the audience is revved up and rarin’ to go. I’m going to sleep now. I have out of town company and a funeral to attend this weekend for a dear cousin who passed away on Christmas Eve.

Iron Butterfly wrote:

runner_70 wrote:

rockchic65 wrote:

Sparkle wrote: Sweetcaroline I am not homophobic but Lambert is a complete embarrassment to the gay community. He makes Boy George look butch. Is he metrosexual or freakosexual?

Why does it matter what he is? He's a spokesperson for the gay community so they clearly don't find him an embarrassment. And you do know metrosexual's are straight right?

Lamebert is a spokesperson for the gay Community? Really? Is he "honoring" them the same way he is " honoring " those artists he us Covering all the Time? If so i pity the gay community. The only person he speaks for is his twat self

I think he is a good person to speak out the way he does, at least most of the time. But man, I still feel it wasn't his place to speak about Freddie's sexuality, and he contradicted things. One moment he didn't know how in or out of the closet Freddie was, next he says Freddie was bisexual. Dang :-/.

runner_70 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

runner_70 wrote:

rockchic65 wrote:

Sparkle wrote: Sweetcaroline I am not homophobic but Lambert is a complete embarrassment to the gay community. He makes Boy George look butch. Is he metrosexual or freakosexual?

Why does it matter what he is? He's a spokesperson for the gay community so they clearly don't find him an embarrassment. And you do know metrosexual's are straight right?

Lamebert is a spokesperson for the gay Community? Really? Is he "honoring" them the same way he is " honoring " those artists he us Covering all the Time? If so i pity the gay community. The only person he speaks for is his twat self

I think he is a good person to speak out the way he does, at least most of the time. But man, I still feel it wasn't his place to speak about Freddie's sexuality, and he contradicted things. One moment he didn't know how in or out of the closet Freddie was, next he says Freddie was bisexual. Dang :-/.

What a great spokesperson this sad idiot is

Sparkle wrote: Sweet Caroline Do you honestly think people who dislike Adam would waste money on that fake? He is not a real artist he is plastic and sings Queen songs for a living for two broken original band members who should know better. They do not realise how ridiculous they look on stage together. If i was a member of a brilliant band and the lead singer died i certainly would not abuse the bands line up by taking in a young kid and insult the original singer who built up the group and made them the worlds best band. May & Taylor will never be forgiven as far as i am concerned for they have destroyed Queen.

Sparkle wrote: Rockchic My gay friends would be disgusted when you said Lambert speaks for the gay community, he has taken gay rights back 50 years looking like a camp nellie with his feminine make up and camp personality on stage. There are some gay men who are 100% men and all gay men are not into make up and ladies fox furs and eyeliners. god forbid if you think that is normal.

SweetCaroline wrote: GO TO A SHOW OR STFU, ALL OF YOU !!!!!

Sparkle wrote: Rockchic My gay friends would be disgusted when you said Lambert speaks for the gay community, he has taken gay rights back 50 years looking like a camp nellie with his feminine make up and camp personality on stage. There are some gay men who are 100% men and all gay men are not into make up and ladies fox furs and eyeliners. god forbid if you think that is normal.

runner_70 wrote: Deep inside those Glamtart grannies dream that he is not gay as they are lusting for the twat

Sparkle wrote: A lot of abuse regarding Lambert on facebook and twitter, he gets called lots of anti gay names faggot, freak, queer etc...... not good for the straight acting gay man though, i find the homophobic comments are still from american population they still cannot accept him.

Sparkle wrote: Rockchic You must be blind if you think Lambert is getting accepted by the homophobes. Anti gay treatement is rife in the USA and in the Uk it is more accepting. Nothing wrong in been gay but he does push it too far. In doing so a lot of hard rock fans ignore Queen now.

rockchic65 wrote:

runner_70 wrote: Deep inside those Glamtart grannies dream that he is not gay as they are lusting for the twat

Some may but most are just impressed by his talent and the person he is inside.

snifflese wrote: Keep on deluding yourself!!

Sparkle wrote: snifflese You are really thick i almost pity you.

Sparkle wrote: The artists that you have mentioned are friends with Queen anyway and are going to be nice to May & Taylor. They will secretly know that the band are not as good as they used to be with Freddie & John, Sure full marks for them keeping the band going but they have pissed a lot of people off in doing so.

Holly2003 wrote: In 2009 Slash was actively looking for singers for his debut solo album, and in the longer term for someone to sing on tour, so that may account for his Idol dalliance. Of course, it turned out that he asked Myles Kennedy to sing with him, Myles being a proper rock singer, song writer, and musician. Carry on.

Holly2003 wrote: I didn't say he wasn't impressed. The point I'm making is that Slash was looking for singers (plural). You make it sound that he was only looking at Lambert. For the album, he utilised the following singers: Ian Astbury, Ozzy, Fergie, Myles Kennedy, Chris Cornell, Andrew Stockdale, Adam Levine, Lemmy, Kid Rock and Iggy Pop. Good for him for having an open mind. Adam Levine's performance on Gotten is great and Levine is not someone you would normally associate with Slash. Lambert may well have been tied to an Idol contract but Myles Kennedy was far and away the best fit because he's a rock singer who could sing everything on the album with some authenticity, and he could also do the GnR songs on tour.

runner_70 wrote: Slash was completely annoyed by Lameberts oversinging vocal gymnastics and he told him to tone it down. There is a video where Lamebert does his usual goat crap And slash is totally turned off by it. I cannot blame him.

rockchic65 wrote:

Holly2003 wrote: I didn't say he wasn't impressed. The point I'm making is that Slash was looking for singers (plural). You make it sound that he was only looking at Lambert. For the album, he utilised the following singers: Ian Astbury, Ozzy, Fergie, Myles Kennedy, Chris Cornell, Andrew Stockdale, Adam Levine, Lemmy, Kid Rock and Iggy Pop. Good for him for having an open mind. Adam Levine's performance on Gotten is great and Levine is not someone you would normally associate with Slash. Lambert may well have been tied to an Idol contract but Myles Kennedy was far and away the best fit because he's a rock singer who could sing everything on the album with some authenticity, and he could also do the GnR songs on tour.

Adam could easily have done GnR songs, in fact that would far more suit his style of rock singing. Regardless I was simply refuting Sparkle's assumption that all rock singers/fans don't like Queen + due to Adam being theatrical, camp, too gay whatever.

Holly2003 wrote: Yes he could have hit the notes, but would how awful would it have been to have him sing those classic rock songs in his theatrical-Idol style. Slash needed a rock singer and he got one.

Holly2003 wrote: He doesn't have a rock voice. I'm sure SC will post AL's version of Whole Lotta Love to "prove" me wrong. Don't bother: it's terrible. He is just about listenable when doing some of Queen's pop catalogue but he's not a convincing rock singer.

Holly2003 wrote: He doesn't have a rock voice. I'm sure SC will post AL's version of Whole Lotta Love to "prove" me wrong. Don't bother: it's terrible. He is just about listenable when doing some of Queen's pop catalogue but he's not a convincing rock singer.

Iron Butterfly wrote: Some Glamberts think AL is a rock God. Based on exactly what? His covers of other people's music, nah I don't think so, and his own music isn't very hard/heavy rock, if at all.

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote: Some Glamberts think AL is a rock God. Based on exactly what? His covers of other people's music, nah I don't think so, and his own music isn't very hard/heavy rock, if at all.

His own music isn't no, it's not what he chose to do but it's what everyone thought he should be doing and it's the lane they put him in on Idol. He auditioned with a Michael Jackson song but they obviously wanted him more in the rock genre and there's covers he's done that are rock. I don't call him a rock god but he can definitely sing some types of rock.

Iron Butterfly wrote: Gotta ask, what do you mean what he didn't choose to do?

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote: Gotta ask, what do you mean what he didn't choose to do?

When he got off Idol and was recording his album he wanted it to be pop with a house/electronic feel rather than rock even though he does like some rock music and did do one or two covers in his live shows.

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote: Gotta ask, what do you mean what he didn't choose to do?

When he got off Idol and was recording his album he wanted it to be pop with a house/electronic feel rather than rock even though he does like some rock music and did do one or two covers in his live shows.

rockchic65 wrote:

Holly2003 wrote: He doesn't have a rock voice. I'm sure SC will post AL's version of Whole Lotta Love to "prove" me wrong. Don't bother: it's terrible. He is just about listenable when doing some of Queen's pop catalogue but he's not a convincing rock singer.

That's your opinion, plenty disagree. Rock isn't just one sound it covers lots of styles from Bon Jovi to Journey, you don't get much different but they are both classed as rock. Adam could easily do Journey, some GNR, some Aerosmith and various others, his voice wouldn't suit Bon Jovi or the more classic hard rock but some glam metal etc definitely.

Iron Butterfly wrote: Well his solo music is pop and EDM. Not having a go at you, but I do find it strange he didn't want to do rock, but he is touring with Brian and Roger, for years now. Maybe he knew he couldn't pull of rock in his solo career?

Holly2003 wrote: Yes, that's my opinion. That's how forums work. Luckily Slash shares my opinion about Myles Kennedy. As for your appealing to the wisdom of the masses, that seldom makes a sound foundation for a musical discussion, otherwise Kanye would be considered a better song writer than Dylan.

Sparkle wrote: sweetcaroline Lorde are a heavy rock band ! dahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Sparkle wrote: Plenty of new acts out now that do rock! Lamberts solo material is bland electronic dance crap and no wonder his label has dropped him.

rockchic65 wrote:

Holly2003 wrote: Yes, that's my opinion. That's how forums work. Luckily Slash shares my opinion about Myles Kennedy. As for your appealing to the wisdom of the masses, that seldom makes a sound foundation for a musical discussion, otherwise Kanye would be considered a better song writer than Dylan.

I've nothing against Myles he's great, love his voice and I also liked Scott Weiland. When I refer to other people I'm talking industry people not fans, he was referred to as a rocker, glam rocker etc by people in the industry. Just because he chose to do pop doesn't mean that's all he could do.

Sparkle wrote: Does it matter what bands they are at least they are making an honest living and not singing other bands material for a living.

Holly2003 wrote: Who exactly in the industry and in what context were these discussions taking place?

SweetCaroline wrote: Speaking of rock, can anyone tell me why songs by Lorde are put in the rock category for Grammy nominations?

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote: Well his solo music is pop and EDM. Not having a go at you, but I do find it strange he didn't want to do rock, but he is touring with Brian and Roger, for years now. Maybe he knew he couldn't pull of rock in his solo career?

He wanted to do pop on Idol like I said but they saw him more in the rock genre. Whether it was that he actually preferred to do pop or just thought that would be more likely to get in the charts I don't know but he was a club kid who liked going to raves and dancing to EDM type stuff a lot so I guess that music resonated with him more at the time and he's more or less said as much. Rock in general doesn't get anywhere in the mainstream and hasn't for a long while. There are rock bands that do well if they've already got a huge following and been around for years but starting out doing rock doesn't seem to work too well so maybe that was his theory as well.

Iron Butterfly wrote: They did? Idol used to have not that many songs and artists they could have the contestants cover. I do hope AL wanted to do pop, instead of him thinking he'd do it just for the possibility of it selling more. For me, Daughtry is the rocker from Idol. He making a go out of it for years now. Much to be said about him not riding on coattails the way I feel AL has for years now. Not having a go at you by the way.

runner_70 wrote: So beneficial that the record label dropped him despite his QAL promotion. Says all about his solo crap music. His solo career is done for years now and it just had some minor success in the US due to the AI promotion. Noone takes this twat seriously apart from a few Glamtarts lusting for the lady boy and 2 Ex legends who lost the plot

rockchic65 wrote:

runner_70 wrote: So beneficial that the record label dropped him despite his QAL promotion. Says all about his solo crap music. His solo career is done for years now and it just had some minor success in the US due to the AI promotion. Noone takes this twat seriously apart from a few Glamtarts lusting for the lady boy and 2 Ex legends who lost the plot

What has his record label got to do with him singing with Bri & Roger? And he's releasing his own music next year so he's either got a new label or is going independent. And plenty people take him seriously, take it you haven't seen all the tweets over the last few days lol.

runner_70 wrote: You said it was a beneficial collaboration. If it is beneficial you dont get dropped by your own record label do you? Why you always need some extra explanation for the most obvious things???? Tweets from Glamtart grannies donÄ't make him more credible. He is and stays an unworthy POS

rockchic65 wrote:

runner_70 wrote: You said it was a beneficial collaboration. If it is beneficial you dont get dropped by your own record label do you? Why you always need some extra explanation for the most obvious things???? Tweets from Glamtart grannies donÄ't make him more credible. He is and stays an unworthy POS

They are completely separate projects, his record label isn't even the same one as Queen so there's no link between them and what he does as a solo artist has nothing to do with what he does with Bri & Roger. I meant mutually beneficial for him and them to tour together since they can't tour without a singer and he gets to tour arena's and have fun with them, win win. That has nothing to do with what he does separate from them.

runner_70 wrote: And you think it is logical that he giot dropped by his company depsite being in the QAL limelight? What kinda logic is that? Fact is thhey did not believe in his solo stuff as it sucked so they sacked him and he can be lucky to work for the two ex legends

rockchic65 wrote:

runner_70 wrote: And you think it is logical that he giot dropped by his company depsite being in the QAL limelight? What kinda logic is that? Fact is thhey did not believe in his solo stuff as it sucked so they sacked him and he can be lucky to work for the two ex legends

Solo music is obviously not the same as singing with QAL and there's no way to know why he's not with them anymore. I daresay he'll tell people eventually once his music is released, until then I'll reserve judgement.

SweetCaroline wrote: HELP !!! I posted this one time.. What is happening?

SweetCaroline wrote: HELP !!! What is happening?

SweetCaroline wrote: I Got You Babe — Cyndi and Adam link

SweetCaroline wrote: I Got You Babe — Cyndi and Adam link

someonewholikesadam wrote: I'm tired of QAL. I want my solo Adam back. link link

Sparkle wrote: If Adam wants to be an original artist then he should leave Queen and man up and earn an honest living.

SweetCaroline wrote: Sparkle, Adam IS an original artist. No one else sings like him, pitch perfect and always hitting those amazing and exciting high notes that bring people to their feet in a standing ovation!

Sparkle wrote: I dont think Adam is original at all. Singing karaoke for 10 years is hardly to be treated as a serious musician. Even Jane McDonald is like Adam singing cover songs for a living and she is classed as cabaret.

SweetCaroline wrote: Adam has 3 original albums. Have you listened to any of them? And he has toured worldwide with all three!

SweetCaroline wrote: About Adam finding his niche. He doesn’t have a niche. That’s why he fits Queen music so well. Queen music and Freddie were not boring or stuck in a set genre and neither is Adam. He does it all.

SweetCaroline wrote: Even Adele doesn’t write all of her songs. You don’t have to write songs to be an artist and to be original. Adam IS original. That’s why he made such an impression on Idol. He IS ground breaking. It’s not all about writing songs.

SweetCaroline wrote: Ed Sheeran filled Wembley but he is boring as hell. Wears a plaid shirt, strums his guitar in front of a mic, playing the same music over and over and over! Oh, but he is original because he wrote all of those songs and is in a niche? LOL

runner_70 wrote: What the fuck is groundbreaking about Lamebird??? There have been enough twats dressed in drag not able to write a song or carry a tune before him and there will be after him. He is the king of the twats though

SweetCaroline wrote: To each his own! Adam is the best!!!!!

SweetCaroline wrote: I am rooting for BoRhap and Rami to win tonight at the Golden Globes. I haven’t seen any of the other movies that are nominated.

SweetCaroline wrote: To each his own! Adam is the best!!!!!

Holly2003 wrote: Rami was good but John David Washington was better in BlacKkKlansman which maybe just shades it for best film, but it will probably go to A Star is Born. Black Panther is very over-rated. I hope Adam Driver gets best supporting actor as he was great. Also hope John C. Reilly wins but must admit I haven't seen all the films in his category.

snifflese wrote: Promotion alert about Gaga. Are you being paid to big her up? You only have the most positive things to say about her!!

snifflese wrote: No, Icy, I also really like her. She is great and I have lots of her music. You have missed the point entirely. The point is that I can follow you around and say something about every post you make (but I am not nasty like you are with Caroline). It isn't fun to have someone do that and yet, that is what you do with poor Caroline. You have some witchy thing to say about every post she has made today. You are not the mod and it is not your place to tell her what to do and stalk her all over the internet. What is your problem? Why don't you leave the poor woman alone. She is a fan of Adam and that is what fans do and you can't seem to grasp that! Do you like me commenting on your stuff? Probably not. I know I wouldn't like it and I am sure Caroline doesn't. What is the difference between your promotion of Gaga and Caroline saying something about Adam, yet that is what you said to her tonight and you have repeated the bigging up crap thousands of times on here. I don't see any difference between the two behaviors at all. I am not bitter just so tired of you always picking on people repeatedly. This isn't a contest here as I don't care who wins what award, I would just like to see you stop being such a horrible bully and mind your own business for a change. Post a thought or a concept, not a rant against someone, which is all you ever do. You must be a miserable creature to always pick on people. When someone does finally say something to you, you deserve it.

snifflese wrote: If the behavior fits, I guess you own it. I imagine she could say a lot worse things considering you have something to say about her every move. I am not picking fights, I just wish you could see what you are always doing. The only reason I ever started to post on here was because of your treatment of Caroline and others who are Adam fans. I told you that in the first post I ever made. Nothing has changed! By the way, NO ONE here really ever discusses the music or anything productive because the trolls start right up with their nonsense. The trolls who are all your good buddie, as you seem to get along better with them than anyone else. Hmm, funny how that goes!

SweetCaroline wrote: snifflese, give up. She’s a narcissistic brat like Trump!

snifflese wrote: I don't want one side of the discussion either, but yours is always negative and if you do like something, there is still always something wrong so it can't be totally right, which is something you never do with any other singer or celebrity. You damn with faint praise when it comes to Adam. I might mention that I have nothing to do with Queen boards. Somehow you always manage to forget this is the QAL section, an entirely different beast. I don't understand why you can't get that through your thick head, because that makes all the difference in the world as to why people can post glowing things about Adam and Caroline can link things here and post things about Adam. THIS IS NOT A QUEEN THREAD!!! Maybe caps will help you understand the concept better. It is allowed to be positive and glowing here. Nobody is making up the positive stuff posted here. Real fans in the real world are saying and tweeting and posting great things about Brian and Roger and Adam. Why you take such offense, I will never understand. When you become the moderator here, your opinion might count, but everyone can say what they want and don't need constant negative feedback from you. Let Caroline post, let Adam fans talk without the nasty remarks from you and the trolls. It would be a much better place here, but who wants to come here when only negativity and nastiness abound. Yep, I am parroting what you say, since you say it again and again and again. Post positive things about your boy Freddie on the Queen threads. That would be a productive use of your time. You might feel better if you were positive for a change. There is nothing uplifting about constantly complaining about someone you don't even know.

Iron Butterfly wrote:

Holly2003 wrote: Rami was good but John David Washington was better in BlacKkKlansman which maybe just shades it for best film, but it will probably go to A Star is Born. Black Panther is very over-rated. I hope Adam Driver gets best supporting actor as he was great. Also hope John C. Reilly wins but must admit I haven't seen all the films in his category.

I actually think JDW might win. I'd be just as pleased if he won to be honest. Black Panther was a big deal over here, but I'd be very surprised if that won. Will you be watching? An hour to go my time, I hope to watch the east coast feed.

Holly2003 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

Holly2003 wrote: Rami was good but John David Washington was better in BlacKkKlansman which maybe just shades it for best film, but it will probably go to A Star is Born. Black Panther is very over-rated. I hope Adam Driver gets best supporting actor as he was great. Also hope John C. Reilly wins but must admit I haven't seen all the films in his category.

I actually think JDW might win. I'd be just as pleased if he won to be honest. Black Panther was a big deal over here, but I'd be very surprised if that won. Will you be watching? An hour to go my time, I hope to watch the east coast feed.

I couldn't watch it live due to the time difference between USA and UK. I'm glad Rami won as was really good but don't know how BoRap won best film except that it made a lot of money. Some of the dialogue was wooden and some scenes really stodgy. At times it felt like a low budget TV movie. Anyway, none of my favourites won. Clearly I have more taste than Awards juries :)

Sparkle wrote: Queen have influenced many artists over the years so can Sweetcaroline tell us all who Adam Lambert influences then?

SweetCaroline wrote: Sparkle, there are many young LGBTQ people who have written to Adam thanking him for inspiring them and even saving them because of his positive attitude and openness and kindness. No, icy, I am not upset that Adam was not on the red carpet last night. I don’t know why but maybe he thought it was Rami’s night to shine and it certainly was. I am very happy for all of them for the unexpected success of the movie. Why do you think that only you are allowed to be a Queen fan? If the Adam fans came to appreciate Queen again through his association with them, why is that a bad thing and if more people appreciate Queen again through the success of this movie, why is that more acceptable? You never gave a thought to Queen until after Freddie died but you think that is just fine. You think that whatever you do is just fine. Well whatever I and others do is just fine, too. So just take care of icy and snifflese and sweet Caroline will take care of themselves, too. We don’t need you to tell us what we can and cannot do. Rami was so excited last night. I’m very happy for him and for Brian and Roger that all is well in Queen Land!

SweetCaroline wrote: Isaiah Firebrace (X Factor Australia) and Sara (who he sang duet of BoRhap with at finale of UK X Factor) were both very much influenced by Adam.

rockchic65 wrote:

Sparkle wrote: Queen have influenced many artists over the years so can Sweetcaroline tell us all who Adam Lambert influences then?

James Michael

Iron Butterfly wrote:

rockchic65 wrote:

Sparkle wrote: Queen have influenced many artists over the years so can Sweetcaroline tell us all who Adam Lambert influences then?

James Michael

Haven't heard of that one. Who is he?

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

rockchic65 wrote:

Sparkle wrote: Queen have influenced many artists over the years so can Sweetcaroline tell us all who Adam Lambert influences then?

James Michael

Haven't heard of that one. Who is he?

Record producer, songwriter, vocalist, musician, mixer - currently vocalist for Sixx AM. link

Iron Butterfly wrote:

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

rockchic65 wrote:

Sparkle wrote: Queen have influenced many artists over the years so can Sweetcaroline tell us all who Adam Lambert influences then?

James Michael

Haven't heard of that one. Who is he?

Record producer, songwriter, vocalist, musician, mixer - currently vocalist for Sixx AM. link

Interesting. How is he influenced by AL?

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

rockchic65 wrote:

Sparkle wrote: Queen have influenced many artists over the years so can Sweetcaroline tell us all who Adam Lambert influences then?

James Michael

Haven't heard of that one. Who is he?

Record producer, songwriter, vocalist, musician, mixer - currently vocalist for Sixx AM. link

Interesting. How is he influenced by AL?

link

Iron Butterfly wrote: Please don't hate me, but it's ok if you do or will after this. These are my thoughts only. That really doesn't talk about him being influenced by AL. What I take from that is James and the lady hyping AL up and James listening to AL before James goes onstage to perform. That's just my take n it. Maybe more was said before or after that part where James says he is influenced by AL.

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote: Please don't hate me, but it's ok if you do or will after this. These are my thoughts only. That really doesn't talk about him being influenced by AL. What I take from that is James and the lady hyping AL up and James listening to AL before James goes onstage to perform. That's just my take n it. Maybe more was said before or after that part where James says he is influenced by AL.

Well influenced is maybe not the right word but he's obviously mega impressed by him since prior to him saying he listens to him for 30 mins before every show he said to the female (vocal coach/singer) "you would agree there's probably not a better male singer on the planet than Adam Lambert" and then went on to talk about him with Queen at the Isle of Wight Festival.

Iron Butterfly wrote: It sounded like he was speaking from a Glambert hymn sheet. Do you know if he said anything about Queen or Brian's and Rogers playing? The video seemed to have cut off quickly.

SweetCaroline wrote: My God, Icy, stop it already. You are so hateful to Adam and his fans. Whatever we have said to you is in response to your nasty nonsense. That’s why I call you Trump. No one is able to reason with him either! Take a long, hard look in the mirror before you dish out your non-stop criticisms. There is no being nice to you. I tried and had to give that up a long time ago. This is it! No matter what you say, I am never answering again. It is so disgusting.

snifflese wrote: So not even one person can be influenced by Adam! It must be from a Glambert hymn sheet? Wow, your hatred has no bounds. Maybe some young gays are influenced by his behavior as a gay man which I have read all the time. That is also worthy. There are too many people to count who value him as a singer and there have been many, many posts recently from people in the business touting him as having the best male voice in the world today. These people are not Glamberts, but once you hear his voice, no matter what he is singing, covers or not, many people are amazed by his voice. I am not sure if it was Spike, but it was in one of the things I read the last few days, where he said that Adam started the resurgence of Queen way before the biopic. You always conveniently push that one aside and laud the movie. The tours have done a lot to get Queen to where it is right now in popularity. Any publicity is good for QAL.

snifflese wrote: Spike has been with the band since the 1980's and is privy to everything about Queen. And how long have you been in the Queen inner circle, Icy? You must know something he doesn't know to dispute what he said about Adam. The music of Queen has resurged over the period that the tours have taken place. Sure, the biopic was huge, but things were happening prior to the movie. You can't have millions of people going to tours and seeing ads all over without some movement in Queen's popularity. Spike says it is due to Adam since that is who they tour with. Why is that so offensive to you and hard for you to grasp? Personally, I would believe Spike and not someone who lives in this warped Queen fantasy. Queen's music had some big lulls in the real world as not everyone hangs in the forum and obsesses about Freddie. I am a Queen fan just not a crazy one and I have listened to them years before you, so stop with the crap talk as it is nonsense. You can be a fan without going nuts about it, lady.

someonewholikesadam wrote: I'm surprised they didn't ask Adam to come up to accept the Golden Globe for Best Picture given his starring role.

someonewholikesadam wrote: IB, You get me. LOL.

Sparkle wrote: someonewholikesadam Why would Adam Lambert be asked to accept a Golden Globe award for Queen then? That film has nothing to do with him and it was the story of Freddie Mercury who worked damned hard to get Queen were they are now. Lambert does not have to be included in everything Queen, he is only a guest vocalist so you lot keep telling us all on here. Lambert can only dream of owning a Golden Globe award but there again they are only handed out to real people with real talent.

Sparkle wrote: You glamberts are so deluded. You say he has the best voice in the world today yet i never see him win any male vocalist awards ever! Maybe this is all in your fluffy heads?

SweetCaroline wrote: Adam is a real person with real talent. As much as I love Rami and am happy that he got the Freddie role instead of SBC or Ben Whishaw, he had to work hard to look and move like the man he was portraying. He was awarded for his acting, but he wasn’t really singing or playing the piano. Why do you diss the man whose performances are real and authentic? Adam’s music hasn’t been accepted by the industry and the general public like the manufactured, cookie cutter, autotuned versions have. Hopefully, it will still happen. His voice is meant for anthems in my opinion and that’s why he has been so successful touring with the Queen guys.

rockchic65 wrote:

Sparkle wrote: someonewholikesadam Why would Adam Lambert be asked to accept a Golden Globe award for Queen then? That film has nothing to do with him and it was the story of Freddie Mercury who worked damned hard to get Queen were they are now. Lambert does not have to be included in everything Queen, he is only a guest vocalist so you lot keep telling us all on here. Lambert can only dream of owning a Golden Globe award but there again they are only handed out to real people with real talent.

I'm guessing you didn't read Iron Butterfly's comment and someonewholikesadam's response then. It was trolling lol.

Holly2003 wrote: Mr Sparkle wants to banish Lambert to the land of wind and ghosts.

snifflese wrote: You just won't give Adam any credit at all, will you? From all the things I have read about QAL over the years, Adam has a lot to do with the tour's success. He has the voice and persona to make it work, even if the show is diffferent from when Freddie was singing.. I also think that is a good part of what does make it work. Roger and Brian were smart enough to find someone different, but not so much that it didn't fit with the Queen spirit. Many people also go to see Adam and then see it again and again because the show just works with Roger, Brian and Adam. The three of them together are magic! I don't think there is another singer who would have made it that successful as few other singers even have the range to sing the catalog.

snifflese wrote: Icy, get over the blood, sweat and tears crap! Do you know how many singers over the years sing covers or put out a new version of an old song? Tons of them do and no one says, well, that number 1 song doesn't count because someone else released it first. Tons of singers also release songs written by other folks and no one but you talks about how they didn't write it, so it shouldn't count. How about Roger's and Brians's blood, sweat and tears, because Freddie didn't write them all, nor is he performing them now. That is such a lame excuse given because you won't ever give Adam any credit. Cut it out with the bigging up also, as that has run its course. These are facts, my dear, as there are way too many people saying the same thing about QAL. You are in the very tiny minority! Fact! You hardly ever see a negative review in any of the social media surrounding QAL. I would say it is over 90% positive and it is only on the Queen sites that people somehow pretend it isn't so. Talk about butt hurt, which is one of your favorite words, that you always throw around! You love Freddie, great! Everyone needs someone they really, really like and relate to. But other people really enjoy Adam and QAL and that is their perogative, Why do you get such pleasure constantly raining on their parade? I will never understand people like that.

Sparkle wrote: Lets get one thing straight here, the film was about Freddie Mercury so why should AL get his greasy hands on a golden globe award for then? Bohemian Rhapsody was written by Freddie he was a genius because that song is regarded as THE greatest song ever written. Mercury is an icon. Adam Lambert is just your run of the mill vocalist in the style of musical theatre he is nothing special. I know all the girls love him but in terms of songwriting and his own solo material he aint that good at all, proof is he lost his recording contract on poor sales. All he can do now is stop with Queen because he knows if he leaves he will be forgotten in two weeks. Lambert is a nobody in the Uk and probably the rest of europe. Hype has turned him into something he cannot deliver = talent.

snifflese wrote: No, Icy, having your stamp of approval means squat in the big picture. Adam doesn't get paid more and it doesn't boost his profile. At the end of the day nothing said on here matters. What does matter are the glowing reviews, happy fans who see QAL, and satisfied band members. I think Brian, Roger, and Adam are all very happy with their incredible life. Getting to do what you love for and with people who love you, it doesn't get better than that. They are happy campers and you obviously, are not. Nothing will ever change your mind and that is just fine.

SweetCaroline wrote: link “Saying something over and over is a symptom of insane obsession.”

snifflese wrote: I have never said Adam was any of the people you are mentioning. He does remind me of Elvis as that was my first teenage crush, however, Adam more than likely will not morph into any of the above mentioned stars. I am just fine with that. I have said that his voice speaks to me and I get goosebumps on some of the songs he sings. His voice just resonates with me and I like him as a person, as far as you can, not knowing him personally. I just think the crap and the negativity here is unwarranted. Anything he has accomplished (and there have been a number of things), just gets swept under the rug and really ugly things are said. Nowhere have I ever said he is a Freddie or a Bowie, but I do think he has one of the best tenor voices out there today, for whatever that is worth. He doesn't need to be a super star for me to be happy. His career is a good one and I think he is satisfied. That is all there is to it. I am not intimating anything more.

snifflese wrote: I don't think you grew up in the Elvis era or you might think differently! There were tons of folks watching Idol during Adam's season that thought just that. There were a couple of picture comparisons of him and Elvis. His voice is, of course, entirely different, but there was just something about Adam. I do think you have to agree that he has really toned down the high notes. It may still be too much for some people, but there are many who find that to be his signature and would be so disappointed if there were not any in his performances. I think he is pretty judicious with them now. Icy, you don't say the things you mentioned, but you always find something negative about everything he does (both with his career and things he does other that) and you tend to give him very little credit. No sense in going into all of that, as I have brought different things up way too often. I know you like Save Me and Believe without the high notes. That isn't a whole lot when everything else is criticism and when you have had so many posts. Probably 99% of what you have written is stuff you don't like. That is my perception for what it is worth. It is pretty obvious there is not much you like about him. You are entitled to your opinion, but you really do rain on other people's parades, as I said earlier. It kind of takes the fun out of things. Just trying to be honest here. For people who would like to just come and chat about him, QAL and the tour, it is kind of hard to do without arguments abounding. Nobody wants to fight and argue all the time.

Brancelli wrote: Icy, you seem reasonable and open-minded when it comes to Adam. At least I feel like you want to give him a chance. I don't understand why the fangirls don't see that. Perhaps I've missed some of your posts where you berate and trash him. The criticism I've seen of yours is very reasonable, and again, I can understand your perspective. Adam is not for everyone. I like him personally and think he's a very skilled singer, but can't fault anyone who doesn't particularly like his voice. I wouldn't say it's very palatable, like say Elvis. Listen to "If I Can Dream". As much technical skill as Adam has, there's no way I'd prefer him singing it over Elvis's version, even if Elvis is not as good a singer, technically. Anyway, I have a 14 year-old son. We watched the Golden Globes together. I told him, there's no way Bohemian Rhapsody will win. He said, "Dad, you don't understand how popular Queen is right now." The popularity of Queen has increased dramatically because of the film. Adam is a very minimal part of it. So last night I thought maybe it would be a good idea to go see Queen in Nashville in August, take my son to see it. Unfortunately, my wife shot the idea down. I probably couldn't get tickets anyway, but for a moment, I thought about going.

Iron Butterfly wrote: I hope you get to see Q+AL someday, Brancelli. I was shocked in the best way possible when Rami and Bohemian Rhapsody won the Golden Globes. I never expected it at all. Queen are more popular now than they have been for decades. Wow.

Brancelli wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote: I hope you get to see Q+AL someday, Brancelli. I was shocked in the best way possible when Rami and Bohemian Rhapsody won the Golden Globes. I never expected it at all. Queen are more popular now than they have been for decades. Wow.

Thanks, and I was truly shocked as well. I haven't seen the movie, some of the people on this forum shot it down due to inaccuracies, so I've been a bit dubious about it. But, I am looking forward to seeing it at some point. I do want to see Queen in Nashville. I know Marc Martel lives in Nashville and will probably be there. I will beg. My son actually wants to go, even though he knows nothing about Adam. Anybody else here going to the Nashville show?

Brancelli wrote: Thanks Caroline. Just as Icy wishes Adam would tone it down a bit with the high notes, I am hopeful you will tone it down with the unhealthy praise of AL. I truly do want to go the show, just gotta get the boss to approve. Any advice?

SweetCaroline wrote: Just realized why there is so much Elvis news. Can’t believe his “84th” birthday was on January 8th (yesterday). Brancelli, when I say the QAL shows are spectacular, I don’t say that because of Adam. It is because of the spectacular Queen music and the amazing cast and crew, who all work together with a chemistry of joy and fun and professionalism. All six guys—Brian, Roger, Adam, Spike, Neil and Tyler excel at what they do from the exciting opening to the last bow! I’ve posted before that my greatest regrets are that I was not able to see Freddie live and Elvis live because they were both the best!

SweetCaroline wrote: Brancelli, tell your wife that most people come away from the Queen shows saying it was the best show they have ever seen. Whatever the cost of the tickets, you will get more than your money’s worth. I swear Brian and Roger are getting younger instead of older and seem to be thriving from all of the love they get from their audiences! Between these shows and the biopic movie, Queen music is getting the love it deserves and reaching some new fans in the process.

Brancelli wrote: I truly do want to go the show, just gotta get the boss to approve. Any advice?

snifflese wrote: Icy, you asked why some people on here have the perception of you being so negative. I was just reading the posts since last night and there you go again telling Caroline about her "promotion", not once, but twice. This is a fan board and she is talking about the entire band, not just Adam. If someone came on and stated it is Adam who is the star, that would be one thing, but no one says that. The QAL show works so well for a myriad of reasons. It is first and foremost Queen's music. That is the crux of the matter. Then it is Brian and Roger, consummate musicians and singers, who make that work. Then there is Adam who is a wonderful singer and brings flair to the show. You have the backing musicians who both play and add great harmonies to the songs. You have one of the most spectacular light shows around, state of the art technology. That is not my opinion as there are numerous articles about that aspect of the show.. Your pulse pounds and your eyes have a hard time taking it all in when you see a show. Then there are the costumes which often match one another, particularly Brian and Adam. There is the camaraderie between the guys. Anyone at the show sees how much Brian and Roger and Adam really like each other. It just makes you feel good to see. Finally, there is the electric feel in the audience. It is something you don't get unless you sit in that audience, which most of you don't like to hear. Those of you who dislike QAL have for the most part never seen a show and that makes a huge difference. There have been far too many people who post about the show and say that they changed their minds after attending a concert. Not seeing the show live does make a difference as to your perception of a QAL performance. You can surely have your opinion, but throwing promotion and often" bigging" up at people just isn't fair. I have seen the QAL show in 2014 and 2017 and am going to the show in August. I have seen many, many rock groups such as Ozzy, Iron Maiden, Seven Dust, Judas Priest and others and this is my favorite of them all. I am not promoting just stating my opinion. I don't care who sees the show. You can buy a ticket (hardly any left at this point!) or not. Not everybody likes the same thing fortunately. Yes, Brancelli, I have listened to many of the you tubes from Dimash. He has an amazing voice and the range is probably unparalleled. For me, however, he is even less disciplined than Adam about throwing in high notes and doing it because he can. Often for me those really high parts just don't work in the song. I thought TSMGO was less than stellar. I don't find his tone appealing and his high notes are like glass, cutting through a stone. There is not much resonance and warmth in his voice. I just don't get goose bumps when I listen to it. As you always say about Adam, Dimash is a great technical singer, but I find his voice to be unpalatable and it just doesn't resonate with me, particularly singing Queen's music (granted it is a very small sample) He is much more classical and doesn't have any rock edge. He reminds me of many of the classical singers who sound odd when they sing pop or any kind of music that isn't opera or classical. I do think he and his voice are amazing, but I don't care to listen to him for pleasure, perhaps I would enjoy opera from him, but not singing any kind of popular music at this point. I imagine that he will tone things down as he gets older, just like Adam has.

snifflese wrote: How does Caroline or anyone else complimenting a show mean that they want tickets to be sold? Honestly, Icy, I don't get where you are coming from. As a Queen fan, I would think you would be happy that Brian and Roger are performing and that fans are enjoying their music. Complimenting QAL or Adam isn't bigging up or promoting. I am sure Caroline thinks others in here might enjoy the show. It is no skin off her nose if they don't go. Sometimes you infer much more than the poster ever really meant by their post. Why even have a forum if you can't say anything complimentary or good about something? That certainly doesn't mean a person is actively recruiting people or being paid by Adam to get people to do things, which you have also said. That is just plain silly. Sometimes a compliment is just a compliment. There is not usually some hidden agenda which you always seem to think there is. I love QAL and I think it is a wonderful way to spend an evening as the show is a magical spectacle of fun and wonderful music. That is how I describe it, but I don't care who else goes. I am going and that is all I am concerned with. I am not invested in who else goes. I just think a lot of the remarks here are very offensive and unwarranted, but to each his own. You either like something or you don't, end of story, but sometimes you don't know ahead of time, unless you experience it.

SweetCaroline wrote: GO TO A SHOW OR STFU, ALL OF YOU !!!!!

SweetCaroline wrote: Awesome post, snifflese! Yes, it is utterly ridiculous that I am trying to sell tickets. The only tickets I am concerned about are my own. Like you, I have just wanted to share my joy and exuberance for their magical shows.

snifflese wrote: How in the world would a normal fan ever get a cut of the profits? I don't think that is at all likely. Most of us who have seen the show would like to let people know it is a great evening out, that is it. If it is not for you, then it is not for you. That is cool, too. But I don't think anyone is getting any profits on the tickets as they pretty much have sold themselves. I know the Boston show has next to nothing left other than a few VIP seats. I believe Xfinity center has 19-20,000 seats. I checked the other day and was very surprised and glad that I got mine in presale.

SweetCaroline wrote: Oh God, insanity prevails in icy land! How sad!

snifflese wrote: I think she gets upset because everyone on here heaps crap on her and at some point it gets really annoying and people just get fed up with it. She has more crap thrown at her than anyone else and it isn't necessarily warranted. It doesn't really seem to matter what she says. At some point she can't win for losing and it gets upsetting. She is a big fan and should be allowed to express her views and post and link whatever she wants as this place is not moderated. Even if it were, I never see anything wrong with her links. She always has the info up. Negative views here sure aren't called out like the positive ones. That can be more than annoying to a person. It doesn't matter what she says people are on her like flies on crap and it isn't fair.

Brancelli wrote: Thanks everyone, for the advice! Great suggestions. With any luck, my son and I will be in Nashville in August. Hope to meet a few of you who have the chance to be there as well. Glad you see my point snifflese. By you not enjoying Dimash's voice despite his skill, I hope you can now understand why Adam is not to everyone's taste, and trying to convince someone else to enjoy it is futile.

Twinkle wrote: These Adam fans force everyone to like him even though he has not got any number one album or single in the UK. Lambert is plastic and fake and without Queen keeping his chin above water he would surely sink !

Twinkle wrote: SWEETCARLOINE So basically what you are saying is it is the Queen music that makes the show extra special? So if the show was just based on Adams music it would be boring then?

SweetCaroline wrote: Yes, I think Adam fans have become more loyal Queen fans than the original Queen fans because they cannot accept Queen music w/o Freddie and John.

snifflese wrote: Icy, Caroline only responds that way after you guys get on her about a link or a promotion or some other thing. You all just heap on her! Honestly, you are the most egregious about that, as she can't say a thing without a comment from you and it is normally not flattering. She doesn't just go after you. I think you might see that if you were being honest. That is totally not true about all Adam's fans just mentioning Adam. I have often talked about Brian and how much I love him and his guitar playing and how that the solo (which even many Queen fans pooh pooh) is awesome. I have talked about how I can't believe two old dudes are still up for it and can do something like that at their age. So, that is absolutely not true. I have pointed out it takes Brian, Roger and Adam and the backing guys to bring the magic every night. There would be no Queen w/o Brian and Roger. AND I have OFTEN pointed out how surprised I am that Queen fans speak so disparagingly of Brian and Roger. I think Queen fans here do that and not the Adam fans. How many of you mention sell outs, and money grubbers and other such lovely terms? Don't blame that on Adam's fans here. Most of us absolutely love Brian and Roger and greatly appreciate their skills.

snifflese wrote: Icy, Caroline only responds that way after you guys get on her about a link or a promotion or some other thing. You all just heap on her! Honestly, you are the most egregious about that, as she can't say a thing without a comment from you and it is normally not flattering. She doesn't just go after you. I think you might see that if you were being honest. That is totally not true about all Adam's fans just mentioning Adam. I have often talked about Brian and how much I love him and his guitar playing and how that the solo (which even many Queen fans pooh pooh) is awesome. I have talked about how I can't believe two old dudes are still up for it and can do something like that at their age. So, that is absolutely not true. I have pointed out it takes Brian, Roger and Adam and the backing guys to bring the magic every night. There would be no Queen w/o Brian and Roger. AND I have OFTEN pointed out how surprised I am that Queen fans speak so disparagingly of Brian and Roger. I think Queen fans here do that and not the Adam fans. How many of you mention sell outs, and money grubbers and other such lovely terms? Don't blame that on Adam's fans here. Most of us absolutely love Brian and Roger and greatly appreciate their skills.

snifflese wrote: I totally disagree about everything related to Caroline. What do you want when you attack her no matter what she says? You throw in the ban and the spamming and what she said 3 years ago and stuff about pictures she posts of Adam's family. The list of the transgressions is too long to write here, but you go over them again and again each and every time. I am surprised she hasn't said anymore. Your picture of events is not what I have seen over the years. Sorry, I find your tirades much more unsettling. You go after people like a rat terrier and just don't let go. And you wonder why Caroline might really dislike or hate you? I don't wonder about it at all. I am sure others feel that way, but they won't rock the boat with you. If you are trying to be honest, so am I. I don't want to hurt your feelings, but that is what I see here. You are also wrong about Adam fans not being Queen fans. That is so much nonsense. I keep telling you that I was a fan of Queen long before you ever thought of them and you totally disregard that. One can be a fan without living, breathing and knowing any trivia out there regarding Freddie. I can just enjoy the music without knowing any of that. Learning the history does not help me enjoy Queen music. If you want to do that, no problem, but I can be a big fan w/o all of that. Glamberts don't think the Queen boards have to accept Adam, but I take issue with the very vile things that are posted here. If this were moderated, none of it would ever be allowed. Even Roger and Brian come in for their share of crap and I wouldn't expect THAT on a Queen board. Most of what I have posted about is you crapping all over Caroline, and others doing the same to her and to Adam. Nowhere do I say anyone has to like or enjoy him. I have pointed out Adam's voice is very different in concert and being there enhances everything but everyone has different tastes, but why those people post here, when they hate QAL and particularly Adam, as much as they do, is a mystery to me. There would be better ways to spend your time than ruining each and every discussion. If Glamberts have to mind their manners, so should Queen fans.

SweetCaroline wrote: Thanks again, snifflese! You are so rational. I never said anything nasty about IB’s parents. I’ve been empathetic about her Dad’s recent illness. I lost my Dad to cancer in the ‘90’s and my Mom in 2009 as well as my husband of 3 years to a sudden, massive heart attack in 1973. What I said to her is that I think her folks are probably healthier than she is (meaning mentally). And then I said she should spend as much time as she can with them while they are still here instead of spending so much time in these forums going after me. As you said I cannot post a single sentence without being attacked as a promoter, defender, bigger upper ??? So I was banned at QOL for posting too much about Adam (which IB was only too happy to point out to the moderator who said he never reads links and he never ever watched a YouTube of the QAL performances. I was not being nasty to anyone over there and it really blows my mind that the stalker woman found it such a priority in her life to follow me here! Her life vocation obviously is to make my life as miserable as possible. Thus, my comparisons to Trump and Hitler!

Holly2003 wrote: It is odd that lambert has been doing this for so long and still not have much feel for a song, for what works and what doesn't. Most of that was karaoke and then he did his usual "look Simon Cowell, I can hit a high note" routine, which is totally out of place in this song. I want to like the guy but he's not giving me much to like.

EMI2019 wrote: Sure horses for courses but you can not get away from the fact that Lambert is pretty annoying with those high notes as his tongue hangs out like a demented lizard. i turn my head away from the tv when that happened.

snifflese wrote: Posted May 5, 2015 The tongue against the teeth" thing depends on your tongue size. If your tongue is shorter you may want to let it float back in your mouth slightly on certain vowels and if it's longer you may want to shift the tip to on top of the teeth or even further out (check out Adam Labert's high notes!)

snifflese wrote: Probably not a great idea as his falsetto is pretty weak. Since he has very rarely used it, he has trouble hitting it right. He is much more accurate when he uses his full voice or mixed voice. There was falsetto in his song, The Original High, and for his first few tour dates, he sang it with falsetto like the song was recorded. In short order he stopped that and sang it normally for him. Sounds much better anyway. Personally I am not a big fan of falsetto. Singers only use it because they can't hit the high note. I don't know why someone who could do it effortlessly would ever resort to falsetto. I think the powers that be wanted Adam to do what everyone else was doing as there is a lot of it in popular music right now, but sometimes it sounds like a strangled cat (Sam Smith comes to mind and that is what my husband called his singing when he heard one of Sam's songs with a lot of falsetto!!). Adam sounds much better when he goes for the note straight up and of course, it sounds a lot more powerful,nstead of as if the singer were gasping for air! Guess you can tell I don't much like falsetto!

SweetCaroline wrote: Right! Why use falsetto when you have the real thing! LOL

SweetCaroline wrote: I don’t think Freddie used falsetto. He had a great vocal range.

snifflese wrote: I also didn't think Freddie used much falsetto and belted in full voice. There was more falsetto later when he had some issues with his voice, but originally I thought it was also always in full voice. Maybe an expert knows, because now I am curious.

snifflese wrote: Probably not a great idea as his falsetto is pretty weak. Since he has very rarely used it, he has trouble hitting it right. He is much more accurate when he uses his full voice or mixed voice. There was falsetto in his song, The Original High, and for his first few tour dates, he sang it with falsetto like the song was recorded. In short order he stopped that and sang it normally for him. Sounds much better anyway. Personally I am not a big fan of falsetto. Singers only use it because they can't hit the high note. I don't know why someone who could do it effortlessly would ever resort to falsetto. I think the powers that be wanted Adam to do what everyone else was doing as there is a lot of it in popular music right now, but sometimes it sounds like a strangled cat (Sam Smith comes to mind and that is what my husband called his singing when he heard one of Sam's songs with a lot of falsetto!!). Adam sounds much better when he goes for the note straight up and of course, it sounds a lot more powerful,nstead of as if the singer were gasping for air! Guess you can tell I don't much like falsetto!

Brancelli wrote: Adam uses a bit of falsetto the studio version of Feeling Good. And Caroline, listen to “Don’t Try So Hard”. Great example of Freddie’s falsetto.

SweetCaroline wrote: Brancelli, that doesn’t sound like falsetto to me by Freddie, just his upper range. I don’t know what his full range was but on that song it sounds too good to be falsetto.

SweetCaroline wrote: Brancelli, that doesn’t sound like falsetto to me by Freddie, just his upper range. I don’t know what his full range was but on that song it sounds too good to be falsetto.

Iron Butterfly wrote:

Brancelli wrote: Adam uses a bit of falsetto the studio version of Feeling Good. And Caroline, listen to “Don’t Try So Hard”. Great example of Freddie’s falsetto.

I love Freddie vocals on DTSH. Very moving...it actually beats any high note by others at the same time. Late 80s and early 90s with Freddie being so ill and still managing to give it his all... Absolutely amazing and incredible. Sorry, not meaning to sound like I'm promoting Freddie, but I think you will understand.

SweetCaroline wrote: I don’t think Freddie used falsetto. He had a great vocal range.

Brancelli wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: I don’t think Freddie used falsetto. He had a great vocal range.

This genuinely might be dumbest comment I've read on this board.

Brancelli wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

Brancelli wrote: Adam uses a bit of falsetto the studio version of Feeling Good. And Caroline, listen to “Don’t Try So Hard”. Great example of Freddie’s falsetto.

I love Freddie vocals on DTSH. Very moving...it actually beats any high note by others at the same time. Late 80s and early 90s with Freddie being so ill and still managing to give it his all... Absolutely amazing and incredible. Sorry, not meaning to sound like I'm promoting Freddie, but I think you will understand.

Yeah, amazing some of his strongest vocals are on Innuendo. One of my favorite Queen albums. Sorry, I didn't mean to steer this thread towards Freddie.

rockchic65 wrote:

Brancelli wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: I don’t think Freddie used falsetto. He had a great vocal range.

This genuinely might be dumbest comment I've read on this board.

I think there's a lot of confusion around what falsetto is and people seem to assume it's used to sing high notes by people who have less range but obviously that's nowhere near all it's used for. I was going to mention Nevermore as a good example of Freddie's falsetto and you take my breath away is another.

Iron Butterfly wrote:

rockchic65 wrote:

Brancelli wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: I don’t think Freddie used falsetto. He had a great vocal range.

This genuinely might be dumbest comment I've read on this board.

I think there's a lot of confusion around what falsetto is and people seem to assume it's used to sing high notes by people who have less range but obviously that's nowhere near all it's used for. I was going to mention Nevermore as a good example of Freddie's falsetto and you take my breath away is another.

With you on this. I forgot for a bit that sweet doesn't like falsetto. Apparently she thinks it is men singing like girls. It might come back to bite her if AL uses it more.

Brancelli wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

rockchic65 wrote:

Brancelli wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: I don’t think Freddie used falsetto. He had a great vocal range.

This genuinely might be dumbest comment I've read on this board.

I think there's a lot of confusion around what falsetto is and people seem to assume it's used to sing high notes by people who have less range but obviously that's nowhere near all it's used for. I was going to mention Nevermore as a good example of Freddie's falsetto and you take my breath away is another.

With you on this. I forgot for a bit that sweet doesn't like falsetto. Apparently she thinks it is men singing like girls. It might come back to bite her if AL uses it more.

I am curious to know if snifflese and/or caroline like Adam's renditions of Tracks of My Tears or My Conviction. Lots of falsetto.

Iron Butterfly wrote:

Brancelli wrote: I am curious to know if snifflese and/or caroline like Adam's renditions of Tracks of My Tears or My Conviction. Lots of falsetto.

Sweetcaroline has said she likes it. The discussion came up on QOL actually. She thinks AL uses head voice and not falsetto.

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

Brancelli wrote: I am curious to know if snifflese and/or caroline like Adam's renditions of Tracks of My Tears or My Conviction. Lots of falsetto.

Sweetcaroline has said she likes it. The discussion came up on QOL actually. She thinks AL uses head voice and not falsetto.

Adam does use head or full/mix a lot more than falsetto, before the original high he used very little falsetto and I personally don't particularly like when he does because it's definitely not his strong suit. He can do it fine when it's an odd word or phrase but to use it throughout a song like on some of the original high just doesn't work and certainly not live so unless he's really worked on it and perfected it I hope he doesn't go the falsetto route with his new music. The end note on Tracks of My Tears is pure head voice but he did use a bit of falsetto on the earlier parts of the song.

Brancelli wrote: Adam is a bit unusual in that his highest notes (A5, Bb5, B5) are head voice and not falsetto. Most male singers highest notes are falsetto. I don't know what Adam's highest falsetto note is, but I just listened to "My Conviction" and he hits a G5 at the end. I think he could get into the 6th octave if he used falsetto, but for some reason he doesn't. Maybe we'll get a C6 on the next album if he's gonna start utilizing falsetto more. You know your stuff. It's so interesting. Thanks :-)

Iron Butterfly wrote: Oh I know. The fact is he has used it though. He said about a year ago going for his falsetto ( something like that ), but knowing AL, he could have changed his mind and back since then. I'd laugh if he did use it after what sweetcaroline had to say about falsetto sounding like girls.

rockchic65 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote: Oh I know. The fact is he has used it though. He said about a year ago going for his falsetto ( something like that ), but knowing AL, he could have changed his mind and back since then. I'd laugh if he did use it after what sweetcaroline had to say about falsetto sounding like girls.

Yeah I saw that tweet about falsetto at the time and thought please don't so I'm hoping he has changed his mind or didn't really mean falsetto. I don't think it sounds like a girl it's just weak with no power and sounds like your voice is about to cut out or crack at any second or can if it's not done right. Basically you have very little control at all when using falsetto and Adam very rarely using it means it's definitely not his strongest technique. Some singers are really good at it, Freddie was, Thom Yorke is good at it and Matt Bellamy uses it quite a lot and he's pretty good though it's still not what I prefer to listen to.

Iron Butterfly wrote: I hope you won't take this a a dig about AL. Many people go on about AL's voice being powerful, so it does surprise me to a degree he doesn't use falsetto more than he actually does. I like falsetto much of the time, but I'd hate for someone to damage their voice by over using it. He's probably changed his mind about using it though.

Brancelli wrote: Nah, I'm sure the Glamberts know this. I have to use a piano to verify the notes, but I can generally tell what the high ones are. Here's a G5 on piano so you can compare with last note in "My Conviction", which I personally believe to be falsetto. Sorry, the video I was gonna post is actually G6. Can't find a G5, damn thought that would be easy. Anyway, the reason I think Adam could hit 6th octave notes in falsetto is cause that G5 seemed kinda easy for him, didn't really push it to the limit.

EMI2019 wrote: High notes do not make a great singer. Quite the opposite infact , Lambert has a sharp thin singing voice with no baritone to it. Freddie had a much better range than Adam and that is why Freddie is regarded as the greatest male vocalist ever.

Brancelli wrote: Since his full voice can go to Bb5 I'm sure he could hit a 6th octave note in falsetto if he tried.

He is singing in a comical style.

snifflese wrote: Your comments are always so enlightening to read! It has been a lovely, civil discussion until you arrived! Darn!!!

SweetCaroline wrote: What are you trying to post that you “love, love, love” because I can’t bring it up.

SweetCaroline wrote: Here is Time For Miracles in Manila in December: link

snifflese wrote: While I can appreciate the vocal prowess shown in My Conviction, it really only works for me if I were sitting in the audience on Broadway taking in the Hair performance. It is not something I would have on replay. I only like falsetto if it is used more sparingly to change the vocal dynamics or to showcase a very emotional song like Broken Open. I love Adam's FYE album the best and one of my favs is Music Again. I love the use of that tiny bit of falsetto, for example. When it is overused, as it is now in popular music (and has been for a few years) and/or is constantly used to hit notes a singer cannot otherwise sing, I am not such a fan. Adam uses falsetto sparingly. He talked about it years ago and said he was always surprised when people thought he was using falsetto because usually, he is not. It just isn't something he does a much as other singers. I would imagine it is because he can hit those notes full on and it sounds much better to me than that breathy, airy quality of falsetto. If it is for an ethereal effect, falsetto has a purpose, but to just throw it in, doesn't sound good to me. It is also the weakest part of his voice

Iron Butterfly wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: What are you trying to post that you “love, love, love” because I can’t bring it up.

Marry The Night from Glee. In other words, AL covering Lady GaGa.

runner_70 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: What are you trying to post that you “love, love, love” because I can’t bring it up.

Marry The Night from Glee. In other words, AL covering Lady GaGa.

What? Lameturd is covering someone? That must be a first then

SweetCaroline wrote: Iron Butthurt is back! Stop stalking me all over QZ !!! LOL

SweetCaroline wrote: Sooooo, ironic butterfat, did you see the movie yet? Can’t wait for all of your negative remarks!

snifflese wrote: Icy, I was being sarcastic the other day when I mentioned Lady Gaga. It was a joke, as in your always talking about bigging up and here you were bigging up Gaga. As soon as the twoof you get together there are always issues. It was nice to have pleasant discussions for one day, but I guess we are back to the normal zone around here. If everyone could just be restrained in what they post,this mght be a good place to chat. Put aside the butt hurt and the nasty remarks and see how it goes!! I have some things I wanted to point out a few things about Adam's voice after watching that video Caroline posted and being able to compare then and now. I am sure Brancelli and Rockchic might have some ideas. That would be a good discussion but we are deep in Patriots vs Chargers right now in NE!!

SweetCaroline wrote: Adam’s tribute to George Michael ..... link

SweetCaroline wrote: This is an Adam Lambert thread. What do you want me to post here? Adele’s failed tribute to George Michael?

SweetCaroline wrote: Yup, she sells records but is a wreck LIVE! I would be, too! That’s why live entertainers are so special. My daughter has a friend who entertains on a cruise ship. She has developed a special tribute to Adele show that she performs in addition to the group show on the ship. She is so experienced as a live performer that I bet she does it better than the original.

snifflese wrote: NO, singing the wrong phrase or word or lyric out of place is not anywhere close to stopping and starting again. The first is a tiny glitsch that very few people even notice. The second is a major faux pas and she has done that more than once. If I have learned anything from watching the Voice, Idol or any other singing show, it is that the artist should never stop and they should just go on as best they can. I am sure there is the occasion when the singer will never get back on key and needs to stop and start over, but I have never seen that happen. You really bring attention to your mistake if you do what she has done.The thing is that it has happened several times. I bet most of the audience never noticed a few wrong words in that QAL show. I still don't get the envy thing, Icy. Why should anyone be envious of Adele in relation to Adam? The two have no similarities and nothing to do with one another. That just makes no sense and I have said that so many times. Most people like who they like, but aren't envious of other artists in any way. That is really a strange concept to me.

snifflese wrote: Icy, this is the kind of crap we don't need on here. Are you the internet librarian who keeps track of every misstep and then pulls them out? Jeez Louise, this is creepy. Just let it go. You are doing yourself no favors with this kind of behavior. It was nice and quiet until you start fighting with Caroline. As long as you are not here, things are pretty quiet and pleasant. What is the difference between her "Spam" and your crap that you now post to show everyone their faux pas? Should I pull up some of your crazy rants? I honestly don't have the time for such nonsense. Two of the three videos just showed up today from a Dec. engagement and it was cool to hear Adam sing TFM. Some folks here are worried he can no longer use that upper register and that snippet showed that he can. It is probably more a function of a long tour, singing close to two hours a night with a very intricate, difficult catalog of songs. They are not like the typical country songs with a one octave range. Singing Queen music is tough on the voice, so Adam has to be sensible and I am glad he is. When he can just sing now and again, he can apparently let it fly! Much prefer seeing that to your attachment. No way I would ever download something like that. Get a grip! No, Icy, getting a lyric out of order is not equal to what Adele did, no way, no how. Maybe you can pull Adam's flubs up and post them for everybody to see. Singers make mistakes with words every day somewhere in the world, but they don't stop and start over too often. To be honest I don't much care about Adele and what she is doing. I wish her well but have never followed her career. Adam's little lyric flub is such a tiny thing as there have been many mistakes by bands made over the years and that is not much of one. I have read on Queen boards about a few Queen concerts where Freddie totally messed up the concert and how disappointed the posters were back in the day. Maybe you would like to talk about that and post some of those missteps! No one is perfect and no one should expect anyone else to be. Some nights just don't go well sometimes and it isn't a big deal except in your mind, I guess, as you are one of the only person who still brings up the lyric flubs. One more big black mark against poor Adam. Bottom line is that neither Adam's or Adele's little mistakes are much of anything. Who cares? They move on and on one remembers except you, I guess. I think Adele is a great singer and so is Adam. They move on with their happy lives and you post what people said on an internet board to embarrass someone. You ought to be the embarrassed one!

snifflese wrote: Icy, what does that post have to do with anything that is QAL related? That is the purpose here and everything always goes sideways. Do you honestly think that repeating yourself for the thousandth time is anything that a poster on here wants to read? You keep repeating the same stuff. Everyone who reads here knows what you are going to say. Can we just let it go because you never add anything new. There is really no one that is interested anymore in the vendetta. Can't you and Caroline let it go and both promise not to answer each other and we can see how that goes for a while. It could be a lot more fun. Maybe that could be a New Year's Resolution not to bother each other!!

SweetCaroline wrote: Yup, she sells records but is a wreck LIVE!

runner_70 wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: Yup, she sells records but is a wreck LIVE!

Go see a show lol. Idiot

Vocal harmony wrote:

runner_70 wrote:

SweetCaroline wrote: Yup, she sells records but is a wreck LIVE!

Go see a show lol. Idiot

Could say the same about your view of Adam Lambert. Go and see a show, idiot.

snifflese wrote: Do you constantly have to use foul language? I would love to tell you what I thought of you, but I won't write that stuff. Why are you even here? I am sure you are some big armchair warrior and in reality you are a little pipsqueak who won't say Boo. That is the kind of person who has the most crap to say online, because he is too wussy to say anything IRL. We all know EXACTLY what YOU ARE!!!

Brancelli wrote: link Can we all just get along?

SweetCaroline wrote: I have never been the cause of anyone being banned from a Queen forum. Apologies?

runner_70 wrote:

snifflese wrote: Do you constantly have to use foul language? I would love to tell you what I thought of you, but I won't write that stuff. Why are you even here? I am sure you are some big armchair warrior and in reality you are a little pipsqueak who won't say Boo. That is the kind of person who has the most crap to say online, because he is too wussy to say anything IRL. We all know EXACTLY what YOU ARE!!!

FUck off you cunt :)

SweetCaroline wrote: I did not come here to complain about being banned. However, there is a stalker who followed me here to continue the bullying and harassment that they used to constantly question and criticize everything I posted on the other forum. I am not the one who needs to apologize. Regarding usernames, look it up. I am not the poster who loves to find posts from 3 years ago. They can probably be found from 4, 5 and 6 years ago, too. It is disconcerting that the same gripes are still being posted about a man who more than proved his wonderful talent and joy in carrying out the Queen legacy in live performances literally all over the world!

Papa Emeritus IV wrote: “ANAL LAME BERT IS A FUCKING IDOLS MORON WHO IS DESTINED TO RECEIVE THE WRATH OF THE UNHOLY FATHER UPON HIM. HE WILL DWELL UPON THIS EARTH ETERNALLY WITH THE COCKS OF BOTH LEE AND THOR SHOVED INTO HIS SOAR ASS. NORMALLY WE WON’T HELP THE HUMAN RACE, BUT EVEN FOR THE INFIDEL PEOPLE ON THIS EARTH, ANAL LAME BERT’S VOICE AND APPEARANCE IS TOO MUCH OF A PUNISHMENT. PAPA EMERITUS IV HAS THEREFOR DECIDED TO GIVE ANAL LAME BERT A PERMANENT ETERNALLY THROAT INFECTION!” The Clergy has spoken! “ALL HAIL TO PAPA EMERITUS IV !!! ... THOU SHALL ALL OBEY HIM!”

SweetCaroline wrote: You still haven’t told us which Queen/Adam shows you have been to.

Day dop wrote: I saw Queen+AL live. I went to see Roger and Brian play live. Lambert was as shit as ever.

SweetCaroline wrote: What? I just clicked on a link to watch Brian’s guitar solo from their last show in Vegas and instead I got this dude flipping over Adam’s “Believe” — called him a rock star! link

SweetCaroline wrote: Here’s another one — he never heard of Adam — LOL ..... link

SweetCaroline wrote: I don’t know who is Dimash!

Brancelli wrote: btw, not hating on Believe. Truly a great performance. Just think it's ridiculous at this point that you're even trying to hide the fact that you just stumbled upon it by looking for Brian videos, when you know damn well you searched for "Adam Lambert reaction" on youtube. It's just laughable.

Iron Butterfly wrote:

Brancelli wrote: btw, not hating on Believe. Truly a great performance. Just think it's ridiculous at this point that you're even trying to hide the fact that you just stumbled upon it by looking for Brian videos, when you know damn well you searched for "Adam Lambert reaction" on youtube. It's just laughable.

Bingo ;-). She wants any excuse to 'prove' AL is a rockstar. Careful you don't piss sweetcaroline off, she is on major rants in the Serious Discussion subforum these days.

Brancelli wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

Brancelli wrote: btw, not hating on Believe. Truly a great performance. Just think it's ridiculous at this point that you're even trying to hide the fact that you just stumbled upon it by looking for Brian videos, when you know damn well you searched for "Adam Lambert reaction" on youtube. It's just laughable.

Bingo ;-). She wants any excuse to 'prove' AL is a rockstar. Careful you don't piss sweetcaroline off, she is on major rants in the Serious Discussion subforum these days.

Well, I do understand people today are somewhat fragile when it comes to words strung together in a seemlingly but not quite malicious way against them. Let her rant away. I don't give a shit. I actually like Lambert, but I'm sickened by her posts so often that I do tend to take the side of those who disagree with her. I don't think she realizes that her lunacy is gonna put off those who might actually want to give the guy a chance.

Brancelli wrote: Caroline, I don't mean to be an asshole. But when you posted Freddie doesn't use falsetto, well . . . that just told me you really have no clue about Freddie Mercury. If you will allow me to say something positive, I will say that at least you aren't one of the recent trolls, and as Icy says, are at least a rational human being.

Iron Butterfly wrote:

Brancelli wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

Brancelli wrote: btw, not hating on Believe. Truly a great performance. Just think it's ridiculous at this point that you're even trying to hide the fact that you just stumbled upon it by looking for Brian videos, when you know damn well you searched for "Adam Lambert reaction" on youtube. It's just laughable.

Bingo ;-). She wants any excuse to 'prove' AL is a rockstar. Careful you don't piss sweetcaroline off, she is on major rants in the Serious Discussion subforum these days.

Well, I do understand people today are somewhat fragile when it comes to words strung together in a seemlingly but not quite malicious way against them. Let her rant away. I don't give a shit. I actually like Lambert, but I'm sickened by her posts so often that I do tend to take the side of those who disagree with her. I don't think she realizes that her lunacy is gonna put off those who might actually want to give the guy a chance.

She's trying her worst to throw crap at me. Oh she will rant away. I hope no one else ever gets called Trump, Hitler like she says about me. The latest...if I had a brain and she knows my father has stage four terminal cancer that has spread to his brain and she knows that because she and I discussed it in this very forum, and that's exactly why she said if I had a brain in the serious discussion thread just a while ago. I know she said it just to throw any crap that pops nto her head about me. She's already said she pretty much hates me, so that goes to show what she thinks about me. She crosses too many lines about me that's for sure. It's disgusting. As for Lambert, I feel sorry for the guy having a 'fan' like sweetcaroline. I know she has put many people off from being his fan because of what she does.

SweetCaroline wrote: I was fine posting in this forum back in May until “the stalker” followed me here to criticize everything I say.

Brancelli wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

Brancelli wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

Brancelli wrote: btw, not hating on Believe. Truly a great performance. Just think it's ridiculous at this point that you're even trying to hide the fact that you just stumbled upon it by looking for Brian videos, when you know damn well you searched for "Adam Lambert reaction" on youtube. It's just laughable.

Bingo ;-). She wants any excuse to 'prove' AL is a rockstar. Careful you don't piss sweetcaroline off, she is on major rants in the Serious Discussion subforum these days.

Well, I do understand people today are somewhat fragile when it comes to words strung together in a seemlingly but not quite malicious way against them. Let her rant away. I don't give a shit. I actually like Lambert, but I'm sickened by her posts so often that I do tend to take the side of those who disagree with her. I don't think she realizes that her lunacy is gonna put off those who might actually want to give the guy a chance.

She's trying her worst to throw crap at me. Oh she will rant away. I hope no one else ever gets called Trump, Hitler like she says about me. The latest...if I had a brain and she knows my father has stage four terminal cancer that has spread to his brain and she knows that because she and I discussed it in this very forum, and that's exactly why she said if I had a brain in the serious discussion thread just a while ago. I know she said it just to throw any crap that pops nto her head about me. She's already said she pretty much hates me, so that goes to show what she thinks about me. She crosses too many lines about me that's for sure. It's disgusting. As for Lambert, I feel sorry for the guy having a 'fan' like sweetcaroline. I know she has put many people off from being his fan because of what she does.

Icy, I truly hate to hear it about your father. I've recently found out my father has lung cancer as well. It has spread to his brain. Last week he had 3 brain lesions treated with gamma knife, and his cancer is being treated with Keytruda treatments. Going for his third next week.This is the first I've spoken about it, even with people I know in real life.

Brancelli wrote: Thank you. I sincerely appreciate it. I am here for you as well and have your father in my thoughts. I don’t know if it the same for you, but my mother is taking particularly hard, and I’m really trying to be there for her more than anyhting.

SweetCaroline wrote: 10 Years Of Adam Lambert — 2009-2019 .... link

10 Years Of Adam Lambert — 2009-2019 .... link

EMI2565 wrote: As i said earlier proof that this site should stay exclusively Queen is look in the media section at the picture section, no Adam trash in there. Just proper Queen fans celebrating our four boys Freddie Brian John & Roger. Which proves Lambert fans have hijacked part of Queenzone with there day to day trashy gossip on a nobody. Richard needs to ban all this glamberts because they have no right to clog up Queenzone with there spew over lady boy.

EMI2565 wrote: We are not the idiots Rockchic, you are for worshipping a piece of rubbish like Lambert instead of supporting Freddie. Queenzone does not welcome any other artist its purely for Queen fan members. If you want to drool over pussy boy get on to facebook or twitter and fantasise there !

SweetCaroline wrote: Stop it, icy. When I came here I didn’t say a word about being banned until you started your crap. I am empathetic to the illness in your family but you are so rude that you don’t even know that you intruded on a conversation Brancelli and I were having. That’s why I call you Trump because you are narcissistic like him. It is all about you. So you accuse me of interfering in your conversation but you interfered in mine. I can’t stand you so please stop directing your posts to me. After 7 years of you twisting everything into poor icy, I have had it. You are a despicable person. Leave me the hell alone and stop talking about me and my posts and anything to do with me.

SweetCaroline wrote: If Freddie were still here and performing, I’m sure we would be supporting him. Adam would not have been in the picture at all. But that is not how life goes unless you have a time machine and can take us all back to 1971! I would love that because my wonderful husband would still be alive and my son would still be a little baby!

EMI2565 wrote: Rockchic, I am not in the wrong thread because all this site is Queenzone. Look at the we site address : Queenzone.com NOT Queenzone + somefreakyladyboy .com

snifflese wrote: If some of you are going to criticize Adam and his outfits for the show, then Ballet shoes and a leotard are fair game. They are way beyond what Adam has ever worn. Just to be clear, I don't have any problem's with Freddie's attire as it is part of the fun of the show, But you can't rip on Adam if you don't see that this outfit is even more out there. Wild outfits and make up are part of a SHOW!!!

SweetCaroline wrote: I did NOT say Freddie would be supporting Adam. I said if Freddie was still here we would be supporting HIM. Read it again!

SweetCaroline wrote: I was watching that video and then posted it without seeing your conversation but you had no problem following me around from thread to thread. First you say I am not interested in Queen. Then when I went to post about the biopic you followed me over there and condemned me for everything posted there. I don’t lie. I don’t follow you to criticize what you post. The only thing you post about is me. Should I be flattered? Absolutely not because it is so creepy. Find something else to be interested in. Icy, instead of me and what I do and say. You are infringing on my personal life and freedom and that is why you are called Hitler. If you don’t like it, stop stalking me!

SweetCaroline wrote: For God’sake, Icy, shut the fuck up. You are completely out of control.

snifflese wrote: Icy, I don't understand your post at all. I am not throwing any shade at Freddie. I just think if you criticize one person for a certain thing, then it holds true for the next person. You can't keep changing standards for different artists. It either applies to all of them, or none of them. Why would you bring up Adam not being where he is w/o Freddie? What does that have to do with the price of tea in China? Talk about throwing shade at Adam, as you always seem t be able to do, even if it doesn't make sense in the context of the post. Whatever Caroline said, doesn't apply to what I said. Why would you bring her up? You think you are the innocent person here, but you insidiously bring in your snide throwing shade at Adam and Caroline all the time. I don't understand how some folks on here don't see that. To me it is very obvious. That aside, I am so sorry to hear all of the things that you your mom, and your dad, esp, is having to go through. It is really awful and I wish I could do something to help, but I do keep him in my prayers and you also, whether or not you believe it! Stay strong! I know you will be able to do so, because you are nothing if not stubborn and I mean that in a fond way, not as a bad thing! I tryly hope all this treatment will help. Medicine does amazing things right now!!

EMI2565 wrote: Rockchic No one has put in a Queen + Adam Lambert section on Queenzone its just there as someone posted a thread about him and its just continued. Look at the menu on Queenzone it says members: Freddie Mercury, Brian May, John Deacon Roger Taylor...... Don't see Adam Lambert mentioned in that section or the picture section either, what does that tell you then?

EMI2565 wrote: More false wishes from sniffy then, she is playing a game iron butterfly.

SweetCaroline wrote: Not as despicable as you, Icy! You are beyond help! We have all been nice to you at times, but you continue to be disgustingly nasty. I said nothing bad about your parents—just about you. How can you be nice to a serial stalker?

runner_70 wrote: You two both need to see a shrink. Seriously. HOw often can you repeat the same over and over and over and over . THis is clearly spamming. Why was Papa Emeritus banned? He spammed too but it was original (even though you obviously did not get his joke and did not even Know that he was impersonating the Guy from the Band GHOST) but this is clearly worse. To loonies hating each other going back and forth. As there is someone who banned him there must be a way to ban those two (with the bonus of banning snifflese and ROckchic too=. QZ would be a better place. Delete the Lamebert section and it will be all about QUeen again

EMI2565 wrote: All the bickering would stop if the AL section disappeared, so we all need to message Richard Orchard and explain that it is the Lambert fans who are the REAL trolls gatecrashing this Queen site.

EMI2565 wrote: All the bickering would stop if the AL section disappeared, so we all need to message Richard Orchard and explain that it is the Lambert fans who are the REAL trolls gatecrashing this Queen site.

SweetCaroline wrote: Icy, I came here in May and said nothing about being banned. I started a thread about the QAL shows in UK and Europe for June, 2017 and eventually my serial stalker found me and started asking why I wasn’t posting at QOL. It’s all on YOU because you are a serial troublemaker as well as a serial stalker. What you and the MM troll did in that forum to Adam fans (not just me) is ridiculous as well as despicable! Look it up!

SweetCaroline wrote: Icy should stay away from QAL sites, too, because she certainly is NOT a fan. In the past 7 years that they have performed together she only likes Adam singing “Save Me,” wants Roger to sing TATDOOL and wants TSMGO banned from the set list. So what does SHE add to the discussion besides pain and suffering? Go away, icy, and admit that you really don’t like it here! We have heard your negative gripes over and over and over and over and over and over. If your goal is to drive everyone totally nuts, we have been there and back a couple of times. Why? Why do you enjoy doing this to us? I don’t get it.

SweetCaroline wrote: My goal has never been to get new fans for Adam or to “big him up.” That is all in your warped and demented mind. All I have done is post the very positive news about the man and his talent. You and your cronies have made a career out of tearing him down because for some crazy reason you think praising Adam takes away from the amazing talent and legacy of Freddie Mercury. I discovered the QOL website a month after Adam’s first appearance with Brian and Roger at the EMAs in Belfast in 2011. I was so thrilled about it and was horrified that the people at QOL were tearing him into a million little pieces, calling him a goat and every other nasty thing in the book. I didn’t start that nonsense. They did and so did you.

snifflese wrote: We do NOT NEED YOU and people of your ilk here on this one thread. Go fetish over Freddie and the original Queen to your heart's delight in the appropriate section of this site. Clue, it is NOT this one! Hint, hint !! You DO KNOW that Freddie could be considered an over the top homosexual, right? Obviously that must be a problem for you and runner and some of the others as the words homosexual and gay show up a lot in your posts. Not sure why Freddie gets a pass since he belongs to that group of guys. Not a problem for me, but must be for you people. Talent is in the eye of the beholder and is a value judgement, not a fact. Leave us alone here in this one small section and everything will be much better esp. if we get the Icy, Caroline thing straightened out. I am sure there would be more positive folks posting here if it wasn't for all the dissension and utter nastiness that appears in this forum, the majority posted by you trolls. Caroline and Icy do get into it, but it doesn't approach the nastiness you spew.

SweetCaroline wrote: My goal has never been to get new fans for Adam or to “big him up.” That is all in your warped and demented mind. All I have done is post the very positive news about the man and his talent. You and your cronies have made a career out of tearing him down because for some crazy reason you think praising Adam takes away from the amazing talent and legacy of Freddie Mercury. I discovered the QOL website a month after Adam’s first appearance with Brian and Roger at the EMAs in Belfast in 2011. I was so thrilled about it and was horrified that the people at QOL were tearing him into a million little pieces, calling him a goat and every other nasty thing in the book. I didn’t start that nonsense. They did and so did you.

EMI2565 wrote: Sweetcaroline : That clip you posted is so embarrassing and Lambert looks like a transgendered freak who is not really sure what he/she is? You think billions of true Queen fans accept that?

SweetCaroline wrote: rockchic65, I watched the first part of that James Corden show last night with the football players dancing but turned it off not knowing Adam would be on at the end. Thanks for posting. BTW that clip of Dragon Attack from Hammersmith is great because of the adorable exit Brian and Adam made. I love that furry red jacket. I believe Freddie wore a similar brown furry jacket for Killer Queen.

rockchic65 wrote: There you go, no freaky clothes, Adam on James Corden last night - link

EMI2565 wrote: Sweetcaroline : That clip you posted is so embarrassing and Lambert looks like a transgendered freak who is not really sure what he/she is? You think billions of true Queen fans accept that?

rockchic65 wrote: There you go, no freaky clothes, Adam on James Corden last night - link

rockchic65 wrote: There you go, no freaky clothes, Adam on James Corden last night - link

snifflese wrote: That sounds wonderful to me as long as they go heavy on the singing. I assume it will involve more than singing? I just read the blurb and wasn't totally sure. I bet many Queen fans won't like it, since it is a reality talent show and that is one of the biggest complaints about Adam! I think that is ridiculous, but a lot of folks here seem and on QOL to find it areal problem. Personally, I don't care where an artist is found as long as he or she moves me. Very interested in hearing Dimash. Thanks for the info!

Brancelli wrote:

snifflese wrote: That sounds wonderful to me as long as they go heavy on the singing. I assume it will involve more than singing? I just read the blurb and wasn't totally sure. I bet many Queen fans won't like it, since it is a reality talent show and that is one of the biggest complaints about Adam! I think that is ridiculous, but a lot of folks here seem and on QOL to find it areal problem. Personally, I don't care where an artist is found as long as he or she moves me. Very interested in hearing Dimash. Thanks for the info!

Yeah, I was very surprised to see him on it. There were five or six commercials, but one of them was all Dimash, even claimed he had the world's greatest vocal range. From what I've seen I don't think it will be predominantly singing. Looks kinda like an America's Got Talent but showcasing people from all over the world. I think the only reason Dimash did this show is garner attention in America, as he is already an established star in Asia. Well, I can't find the commercial I saw, but Dimash is in this promo @ 20 and 24 seconds. link

Brancelli wrote:

rockchic65 wrote: There you go, no freaky clothes, Adam on James Corden last night - link

James Corden has a palatable voice and can sing! Thought this was great . . . glad they were able to get the new lyrics right, especially considering Adam is not exactly a sports aficionado. I'm guessing Corden is a fan of Adam, as I think he's been on his show a few times? On a side note, Corden's the host a new show that was being promoted during the AFC championship game. It's called "The World's Best" and will premiere on CBS February 3rd, directly after the Superbowl. Dimash was featured in one of the commercials as one of the participants. First time I've seen him on U.S. television.

SweetCaroline wrote: rockchic, here’s the video of that Brian/Adam Dragon Attack exit: link

rockchic65 wrote:

EMI2565 wrote: Sweetcaroline : That clip you posted is so embarrassing and Lambert looks like a transgendered freak who is not really sure what he/she is? You think billions of true Queen fans accept that?

Well their shows keep selling out so clearly they do, and that clip is from years ago he doesn't look the same now anyway.

Vocal harmony wrote:

rockchic65 wrote:

EMI2565 wrote: Sweetcaroline : That clip you posted is so embarrassing and Lambert looks like a transgendered freak who is not really sure what he/she is? You think billions of true Queen fans accept that?

Well their shows keep selling out so clearly they do, and that clip is from years ago he doesn't look the same now anyway.

So who's buying the tickets, is it the fans that you have often said Lambert doesn't have or is it the fans Queen do have but aren't interested. They regularly fill the venues Queen used to play in the 70's and 80's and occasionally sell huge numbers at outdoor shows, so either Lambert has the same sized fan base Queen had, or there are Queen fans in their tens of thousands, maybe millions joining Lambert fans to buy tickets. Either way they have an audience who ants to see them.

snifflese wrote: That would be an awesome idea! In addition to playing at the Super Bowl instead some of those limp bands that get chosen whose music has nothing to do with sports. Obviously most of Queen's catalog isn't for sports, but We are the Champions and We will rock you sure are played at any sporting event I have ever been to, including the NBA, NFL and the NHL. I haven't enjoyed a super bowl act in forever. But the Oscars would also be great as Bohemian Rhapsody is so huge this year. That would be a treat for Brian and Roger and they would deserve the recognition!!

snifflese wrote: I know they have. That is why I said limp and I really like Maroon and Adam Levine. I just don't feel their music translates to a football game, nor have any of the acts recently, other than maybe Gaga. Her music is energetic, the others not so much. You need some banging rock and stadium anthems which Queen can provide.