Star* 20.08.2018 12:17 |
In today's "Daily Star" a Queen fan has a letter published under the name of Mr.coffee and he says he thinks it is unfair that Queen (May & Taylor ) are been unfair to charge £300 for a ticket. Personally i agree it is disgusting considering that Queen are not a complete unit like they used to be. May & Taylor are milking Queen for every single drop they can squeeze out of the dead carcass that is Queen. What do think? ( NO ROWS ON THIS THREAD PLEASE, JUST STICK TO THE TOPIC) |
Sealion 20.08.2018 12:48 |
The tickets in London were 69£ GA and 79£ for a seat. I don‘t know, where he got 300£ from. Only VIP-packages were that expensive. But I don‘t need that. On the whole, Q+AL tickets cost the same as other acts with similar productions. So nothing „disgusting“ there. And if you don‘t like it, stay at home - the tickets sell very well without you. Besides: You‘re discussing Q+AL. Meaning, you‘re in the wrong section of this forum. ;-) |
rockchic65 20.08.2018 13:03 |
happystar wrote: In today's "Daily Star" a Queen fan has a letter published under the name of Mr.coffee and he says he thinks it is unfair that Queen (May & Taylor ) are been unfair to charge £300 for a ticket. Personally i agree it is disgusting considering that Queen are not a complete unit like they used to be. May & Taylor are milking Queen for every single drop they can squeeze out of the dead carcass that is Queen. What do think? ( NO ROWS ON THIS THREAD PLEASE, JUST STICK TO THE TOPIC)As Sealion said this is in the wrong section, not sure if you can delete and start a new one in QAL. If you don't want arguments maybe leave out the dead carcass type comments and stick to facts. The promoter's usually set the ticket prices along with the venue so not necessarily anything to do with Brian & Roger but as Sealion said the normal price for all their shows has been around £69 general admission and £79 seated, apart from the VIP packages. The problem is if you don't get a ticket straight away they get bought or passed on to secondary ticketing sites who then charge ridiculous prices like that. Ticketmaster were passing tickets onto their own secondary site the same day they went on sale last year. They've just closed it down after a lot of pressure but that won't stop touts unfortunately. The Vegas shows are probably worked out differently but the starting price was £79 and £99. |
Star* 20.08.2018 13:17 |
i thought all the Lambert shower would be on here first lol So you are saying Brian & Roger do not have a say in ticket prices? I am sure they have a little say in that somewhere? |
Sealion 20.08.2018 13:31 |
Do you think 69-79£ is too much? I for one don‘t think they make much money by that. The whole production is too huge. VIP-packages and merchandise must be their main income. |
rockchic65 20.08.2018 13:39 |
happystar wrote: i thought all the Lambert shower would be on here first lol So you are saying Brian & Roger do not have a say in ticket prices? I am sure they have a little say in that somewhere?This article shows how the touring industry and pricing works. Obviously we can't know exactly how QAL do things but it gives an idea and if they do the fixed price thing then you can see how it's in the interest of the Venue's, Managers and promoters to charge as much as they can. link This is a list of tours and how much is being made, Queen + are at No 33, think it's from last year's figures. link |
Star* 20.08.2018 13:44 |
Yes i think £69 is too much to pay for two old men and a effeminate goat lol |
matt z 20.08.2018 13:44 |
Nope. ^^^ it's regular ticket buyers per headcount. VIP as you can already discern is "only" the cost of about 3 tickets *AND those quantities are limited. So it's not like they have a meet n greet for 2,000 people. It's more like 100 people. (*if that) Anyways. That's a lot less than i had to pay for their tickets at the forum in 2014.i could look it up, but i don't wanna remember. 2017's show was actually pretty good so i don't regret that one. And paid about $60 for a not so great seat at the last minute. |
rockchic65 20.08.2018 13:46 |
Sealion wrote: Do you still think 69-79£ is too much? I for one don‘t think they make much money by that. The whole production is too huge. VIP-packages and merchandise must be their main income.I agree, having seen the show. There's 22 trucks ferrying all the equipment around, that's a lot of stuff to be put together and pulled apart at each show aside from all the other staff they use anyway, it must be expensive to put together. |
Star* 20.08.2018 13:47 |
Queen always toured with many many trucks so that is not unusual in Queen terms. |
Sealion 20.08.2018 13:49 |
happystar wrote: Yes i think £69 is too much to pay for two old men and a effeminate goat lolYou want no rows. Then stop mocking Brian and Roger. And calling Lambert names is also unnecessary. It just shows your character. Your only reason to open this topic in the Queen section must have been to find like-minded people to bash Q+. I hope nobody falls for that. |
Thistle 20.08.2018 14:31 |
"duh...I happystar....I thick" |
Star* 20.08.2018 14:42 |
Thistleboy : You are the thick twat and your starting again, if we were in a pub id take you outside and sort this out. |
Star* 20.08.2018 14:44 |
Sealion what the hell do you know about music if you think an american idol looser is justified to replace a rock legend? Go get back to your Q+ hovel. |
Thistle 20.08.2018 14:48 |
happystar wrote: Thistleboy : You are the thick twat and your starting again, if we were in a pub id take you outside and sort this out.How, would you bore me to death? Because that's about all you'd do. I'm not the thicko here. Again, you've asked for no arguments, but then goaded people and made stupid insults straight away. You're a bread-dead mutant. Too many drugs matey. If you want a genuine reply, no, the prices aren't too much. You pay what you want to pay - and if you can afford it and it makes you happy, so what? The £300 was either a tout, a "get-me-in" type scheme or a VIP ticket. General tickets aren't too expensive. There's always something we agree on. I don't like AL either. But I don't go bashing those who do. For the umpteenth time here - if you want respect, you need to give it. If you don't want people arguing with you, be more tolerant of THEIR views too. And yes, you're also on he wrong section of the forum, which is for AL, whether your idiotic brain can handle it or not. |
rockchic65 20.08.2018 14:53 |
happystar wrote: Queen always toured with many many trucks so that is not unusual in Queen terms.There's the small matter of inflation though and QAL prices aren't anywhere near the most expensive for touring artists. |
Star* 20.08.2018 15:02 |
Thistleboy you need to control that petty temper of yours and you should not reply if it annoys you that is your problem not mine matey. You do name calling as well as i have just read your other comments slagging me off which is rather funny. You sound very immature and for the record i do not take drugs cos i am not that pathetic. By the way i am not on the wrong section, this is still a general discussion on Queen. I have every right to express my vies no matter how corse they are, have you not read music magazines were journalists are brash, because Freddie had it most of his adult life. |
Thistle 20.08.2018 15:12 |
happystar wrote: Thistleboy you need to control that petty temper of yours and you should not reply if it annoys you that is your problem not mine matey. You do name calling as well as i have just read your other comments slagging me off which is rather funny. You sound very immature and for the record i do not take drugs cos i am not that pathetic. By the way i am not on the wrong section, this is still a general discussion on Queen. I have every right to express my vies no matter how corse they are, have you not read music magazines were journalists are brash, because Freddie had it most of his adult life.Temper? Oh no, I'm actually laughing every time. I don't think you can judge anyone regarding maturity or insults. I'm only giving you back what you dish out. No, it's not the grown up thing to do, but I can have grown up conversations with others and still be entitled to have a little fun baiting my favourite troll. If you could have a decent discussion, without any wise cracks or insulting people with an opposing view, that would be great. But whilst you do what you do, I'm going to hound you at every corner until you either learn or fuck off. Let's call it a service to everyone else. If you're arguing with me, you're leaving them alone. I don't want you to fuck off, BTW. |
Star* 20.08.2018 15:16 |
Thistleboy ok then i will stay just to make you happy lol i know if i leave youl be very sad and wont have anyone to bully. i have tried decent discussions on here then VH comes on and it all erupts with him been obnoxious. |
Thistle 20.08.2018 15:18 |
Don't blame anyone else. Your own comments lead to it. |
Sealion 20.08.2018 15:19 |
happystar wrote: Sealion what the hell do you know about music if you think an american idol looser is justified to replace a rock legend? Go get back to your Q+ hovel. Happystar also started the thread: ( NO ROWS ON THIS THREAD PLEASE, JUST STICK TO THE TOPIC)Yeah, that... And it‘s you, who is always dragging AL into your posts. I only enjoy seeing Brian and Roger in concert. And by that I found a lot of respect for Lambert. And I learnt, that he can sing Queen‘s songs very well. His voice is not always my cup of tea, but whatever. |
Star* 20.08.2018 15:19 |
No they dont, the blame is on anyone who replies back and kicks off |
Star* 20.08.2018 15:22 |
Sealion never accept second best then, your too tolerant of accepting what your not happy with. That is the trouble with many Queen fans saying Lambert is ok when really they know Freddie was better. I do not fall for that junk, for me it is Freddie and john or do not bother. |
Sealion 20.08.2018 15:40 |
happystar wrote: Sealion never accept second best then, your too tolerant of accepting what your not happy with. That is the trouble with many Queen fans saying Lambert is ok when really they know Freddie was better. I do not fall for that junk, for me it is Freddie and john or do not bother.It‘s not second best. It‘s the best you can get now. I would actually say, that Lambert is the best singer, that I‘ve heard in many years. I know many fans don‘t agree here, but just from the ability to sing, I say, that AL is better than Freddie. I remember seeing Fred live and thinking: That was bad. Far from the quality of the records (and I don‘t mean different from the record, I mean badly sung, different would have been OK). Of course there were also great songs and whole gigs, but by far not all. As for being a frontman and entertainer on stage, Freddie was brilliant. AL is getting better with every tour, but not as natural. We will see, what he will be like after 15 years on tour. The stage production with all its lights, lasers and gimmicks is still the most up to date like in th old days - only up to these days of course. And Brian is playing better every year for some time now. My conclusion: You get a show well worth your money. |
Star* 20.08.2018 15:51 |
Sealion well you are entitled to your opinion but i actually think Brian's playing has become worse over the years. He was brilliant around 1976 up to 1980 then he started to get lazy and now i think his playing is flat. Freddie was a brilliant singer so really his style was more rock n roll were Lambert is west end musical sort of Michael Ball style of singing. |
rockchic65 20.08.2018 16:01 |
happystar wrote: Sealion never accept second best then, your too tolerant of accepting what your not happy with. That is the trouble with many Queen fans saying Lambert is ok when really they know Freddie was better. I do not fall for that junk, for me it is Freddie and john or do not bother.Sealion hit the nail on the head "It‘s not second best. It‘s the best you can get now." If you or anyone else doesn't want to see anyone other than Freddie that's fine, but for those of us who want to see a live show they are brilliant. You can never get back what was, Freddie's sadly gone and nothing is gonna change that, you can watch video footage and listen to albums but for a live show it's the guys with another singer or nothing. You choose nothing and that's fine for you but some of us like to go and see Brian & Roger live and Adam makes that possible. |
Sealion 20.08.2018 16:05 |
happystar wrote: Sealion well you are entitled to your opinion but i actually think Brian's playing has become worse over the years. He was brilliant around 1976 up to 1980 then he started to get lazy and now i think his playing is flat.Brian‘s playing got better and better since 2012. I won‘t compare it to the earlier times, because I don‘t think it‘s fair. He‘s 71! And for that age he‘s fucking great! Freddie was a brilliant singer so really his style was more rock n roll were Lambert is west end musical sort of Michael Ball style of singing.Right. Although, when you compare old videos with Lambert from 2012-14/15 and then see him today, then he got A LOT better. I really enjoyed the rock songs (SCC, IWIA...) this last year. |
Star* 20.08.2018 16:14 |
Check out Brians chords on A Day At The Races album and songs like Tie your mother down, he was on fire back then. Yes i know he is 71 and still a great guitarist but his best days were in the 70s, |
Sealion 20.08.2018 16:35 |
Your opinion. And as I said: To compare Brian‘s playing at age 30 to now isn‘t really fair. The fingers aren‘t as agile any more. But he‘s playing with more finesse and a lot of experience now. Plus he‘s still the same perfectionist (which can even get boring.) ;-) |
Star* 20.08.2018 16:42 |
one could say the same about Tom Jones or Paul McCartney but there comes a time when they must step down because they start to look pathetic or die on stage ! |
Sealion 20.08.2018 16:45 |
Thank God, none of them will ask you. ;-) |
Star* 20.08.2018 16:53 |
My opinion to which i am entitled too. Thank goodness i am not easily lead like most on here! |
rockchic65 20.08.2018 16:55 |
happystar wrote: one could say the same about Tom Jones or Paul McCartney but there comes a time when they must step down because they start to look pathetic or die on stage !Whilst the fans still want to see them I can't see anything wrong in it, regardless of their ages. Having seen them last year I can say they are far from looking pathetic at the moment, they put on a brilliant show. |
Star* 20.08.2018 17:47 |
Of course you have to say that because your a Lambert fan. Back in 2014 i saw them on Tv and they were truly lost souls on that stage, and it showed. Queen rock Big Ben live which was aired on the BBC and i only watched at least 10 mins worth and i felt sick to my stomach. No John Deacon and no Freddie Mercury it looked so weird. |
matt z 20.08.2018 18:02 |
happystar wrote: Check out Brians chords on A Day At The Races album and songs like Tie your mother down, he was on fire back then. Yes i know he is 71 and still a great guitarist but his best days were in the 70s,But he *IS* in his 70's!... |
rockchic65 20.08.2018 18:12 |
happystar wrote: Of course you have to say that because your a Lambert fan. Back in 2014 i saw them on Tv and they were truly lost souls on that stage, and it showed. Queen rock Big Ben live which was aired on the BBC and i only watched at least 10 mins worth and i felt sick to my stomach. No John Deacon and no Freddie Mercury it looked so weird.Loads of people loved that, Adam's name was the top search on google for three days after it. That said I personally thought it was very tame and toned down compared to their on the road shows. If you're gonna compare to shows with Freddie it will obviously look weird by comparison, I'm guessing most people who go don't compare they just get into it and enjoy it for what it is. |
Star* 20.08.2018 18:13 |
Yes i guess i do compare because i have been a fan most of my life, and today seeing them the way they look is limp and there appeal for me now is zero. |
rockchic65 20.08.2018 18:30 |
happystar wrote: Yes i guess i do compare because i have been a fan most of my life, and today seeing them the way they look is limp and there appeal for me now is zero.That's fair enough not everyone has to like them. |
Vocal harmony 20.08.2018 19:14 |
happystar wrote: Queen always toured with many many trucks so that is not unusual in Queen terms.Production wise, nothing they toured with in the 70's and 80's compares to what they're using now. The biggest arena production they toured with was The Works, it traveled in nine trucks with two crew busses. The current tour, as Rockchic has pointed out, is using twenty two trucks. There is no comparison. Live production has changed so much since the mid 80's. Staging is more elaborate, video inbthe current tour is huge , two stage width screens, nine tons of flown lights plus a stage width wall of lights. The only time Queen had more trucks on the road was during Hot Space and The Magic tour outdoor shows during which the extra trucks carries scaffold and extra PA needed to play outdoors. Both those tours used a 60x40ft stage platform, exeptance got Wembley and Knebworth 86 which used extra wide staging and a large video screen, the stage at both these shows didn't tour. So yeah, in the 80's they were known for big lighting productions and for the time a fair amount ofvtrucks but compared to now.... Not even close |
cmsdrums 20.08.2018 19:32 |
On the last few tours since the Q&PR return in 2005 I’ve paid between £50 (Brixton 2005) and £85 (London 2017). When compared to other ‘premium’ acts such as The Eagles, Guns n Roses, Madonna, U2 etc, Queen tickets have been far more competitively priced. Some standard tickets for other artists cost three figures for standard ones. I really don’t know what the person writing to complain about £300 has been smoking. |
Star* 20.08.2018 19:32 |
Surely "The Magic Tour" was Queens biggest tour to date as i saw a documentary about it many years ago. If anything i think the stage show is pretty poor compared to the giant stages they had in the 70s & 80s. |
Star* 20.08.2018 19:34 |
CMSdrums: i am only reporting what it said in the newspaper today so nothing to do with me, just thought it was of interest to you all. |
Sealion 20.08.2018 19:51 |
happystar wrote: Surely "The Magic Tour" was Queens biggest tour to date as i saw a documentary about it many years ago. If anything i think the stage show is pretty poor compared to the giant stages they had in the 70s & 80s.POOR ???? Lol, you really haven‘t seen it... I saw both. „The Magic Tour“ was big. Had a huge stage. Was stunning back in the days. Q+AL at its current tour is stunning now. I can‘t say, I‘ve ever seen a production like that. It‘s absolutely fascinating in itself. And it‘s responsible for the fact, that I‘ve never seen less people going for a beer or the toilet during Brian‘s solo. Barely anyone left. Instead, many people started filming with their mobile phones. And I like the fact, that the whole stage has the form of the Red Special. But as the huge stage at the Magic Tour doesn’t translate on TV, the current stage with all its extras looses its fascination on YouTube. You can never see all the videoscreens and lights. |
Vocal harmony 20.08.2018 20:10 |
No stages in the 70's were bigger than 60x40ft in fact Hammersmith odeon (as was) had a 60x30ft stage, which was the biggest on the theatre gig circuit. The standard arena stage platform is 60x40. Because of those measurements standard strussingbthat lights are hung from is 5, 8 or 10ft. The Pizza oven rig 40x28ft. The Works tour used extra staging, the full stage was 80x40, this actually didn't fit into every arena and so only 60ft width was used, these shows only used a single mid section of the lighting rig, rather than the double middle section. The Magic tour stage was only 60 ft wide. If you look at photos taken during that tour Freddie's piano is partially hidden in the stage right wing under the walk way. Only Wembley and Knebworth as I explained used a bigger stage but the effect of the way the lighting was designed was lost at these two venues because it hadcto be spread out to cover the floor space. The current stage is 80x40 with an 80ft walk way (thrust). As I said before as an indoor show they've never done anything this big. The overhead light rig weighs 9 tons, each light has 28 directional, focus, and colour options. They've also developed a small transmitter device used by AL and BM which enables every lamp or any number of lamps to focus and follow the performer anywhere on stage, the system is also used for spot lighting. The video screens can produce a 3D image, as used for the intro. Very expensive imaging and very effective. As I pointed out The Magic tour and Hot Space used more trucks to transport outdoor scaffold, but the production used now is far more impressive and much than before. To appreciate this you really have to see a show and make a comparison having physically see both the current tour and the classic 70's and 80's shows. |
The Real Wizard 20.08.2018 20:27 |
happystar wrote: Surely "The Magic Tour" was Queens biggest tour to date as i saw a documentary about it many years ago. If anything i think the stage show is pretty poor compared to the giant stages they had in the 70s & 80s.Face, meet desk. After you had just read this: Vocal harmony wrote:Someone who has a vast understanding of modern concert production just took the time to explain to you IN FULL about the differences between 1980s shows and today's, and you still default to your willful ignorance.happystar wrote: Queen always toured with many many trucks so that is not unusual in Queen terms.Production wise, nothing they toured with in the 70's and 80's compares to what they're using now. The biggest arena production they toured with was The Works, it traveled in nine trucks with two crew busses. The current tour, as Rockchic has pointed out, is using twenty two trucks. There is no comparison. Live production has changed so much since the mid 80's. Staging is more elaborate, video inbthe current tour is huge , two stage width screens, nine tons of flown lights plus a stage width wall of lights. The only time Queen had more trucks on the road was during Hot Space and The Magic tour outdoor shows during which the extra trucks carries scaffold and extra PA needed to play outdoors. Both those tours used a 60x40ft stage platform, exeptance got Wembley and Knebworth 86 which used extra wide staging and a large video screen, the stage at both these shows didn't tour. So yeah, in the 80's they were known for big lighting productions and for the time a fair amount ofvtrucks but compared to now.... Not even close I'm not sure whether or not to feel sorry for you, because your basic reading comprehension skills are literally non-existent. Having an IQ at room temperature can't be easy. |
Vocal harmony 20.08.2018 21:23 |
The type O's in my post probably didn't help, I was rushing! |
Sealion 20.08.2018 21:45 |
Vocal harmony wrote: The type O's in my post probably didn't help, I was rushing!I found your post really interesting, thank you! And now I know, why I don’t find that old stage that impressive any longer, when I watch it on TV... lol |
Vocal harmony 20.08.2018 22:19 |
Thank you. Back in the day the Queen shows were stunning, but so were Genisis, Pink Floyd and AC/DC and Van Halen in the early 80's. The one thing these had in common was that they were very lighting focused, and produced visually stunning and musically memorable tours. By the end of the 80's the production values that were associated with those acts were wide spread, to the point that whether it was U2, Madonna, Micheal Jackson, AC/DC and any number of others visually they had all caught up Looking back, because the way the industry has progressed, those 70's and 80's shows will never have the impact now that they had then. The type of show Queen are touring with now was probably pioneered by NIN in 2014. Those shows used lighting in lots of scene formats that changed from song to song. They also used an upstage video screen and a second down stage screen, the front one which was flown in and out of view changed the visual impact of the stage dramatically. They were used to both show film/ video and add colour. The Queen show does look different and plays out completely differently but it's DNA shows through. |
Thistle 20.08.2018 22:24 |
Yeah, it was a very informative post. Thanks :) |
The Real Wizard 20.08.2018 23:36 |
Vocal harmony wrote: Back in the day the Queen shows were stunning, but so were Genisis, Pink Floyd and AC/DC and Van Halen in the early 80's. And this story as told by Diamond Dave himself is just so completely timeless. |
The Real Wizard 20.08.2018 23:39 |
Vocal harmony wrote: Looking back, because the way the industry has progressed, those 70's and 80's shows will never have the impact now that they had then.It really must have been so exciting to be around back then when this was all so new. But the sentiment even goes far beyond music. People generally aren't too shocked or blown away by too many things anymore, in this day and age of internet instant gratification. Vocal harmony wrote: By the end of the 80's the production values that were associated with those acts were wide spread, to the point that whether it was U2, Madonna, Micheal Jackson, AC/DC and any number of others visually they had all caught upAdd Bowie to the list. The Glass Spider tour was initially panned, but it had a profound influence on future productions. |
dysan 21.08.2018 08:55 |
The Glass Spider was basically a travelling pantomime. |
Vocal harmony 21.08.2018 09:27 |
Indeed, the Glass Spider shows were another huge step forward at the time. I still find it exciting even today. Unfortunatly a lot of the inpact of seeing a live production now has been lost as everything is all over YouTube after the the first night of a tour. The other thing to remember, from a proffecional point of view, almost everything you see in most productions is put together using off the shelf components, or redesigned/reconfigured of the shelf products. So although the audience is seeing something new, what us "insiders" see is a development and progression from a year or two before. From a lighting point of view, for years and years the Parcan was the standard lamp, in different guises. Every 70's and 80's Queen show was based around Parcans. However in the very early 80's the Varilite appeared. Genesis who put money into the development of the varilite were the first band to take out an entirely Varilite based rig, a major leap forward, up until 86 Queen still used the old and largely outdated Parcans. The first series varilite were developed and the system is now standard, the French Klay Paky company are probably the leading and most wide spread development of the original Varilite. |
mooghead 21.08.2018 09:44 |
"The type O's" Now you are discriminating against blood types?? Seriously though. This thread is everything that is wrong with this message board. So much for a 'fan site'. That is why all I can do is take the piss. I thought I was a cunt but happystar has taken it to the next level. I still think it is a board regular who has snapped. |
Star* 21.08.2018 10:33 |
Who is discriminating against blood types? Was not me mooghead and for your information your are C*** |
The Fairy King 21.08.2018 11:44 |
happystar wrote: Who is discriminating against blood types? Was not me mooghead and for your information your are C***Pick one: you're a* you are a* More things not out of the ordinary: >happystar with his usual bias and venom starts a ditto thread where he can bash QAL. Information he got from a very shady source, but he doesn't care as long as it "substantiates" his bias. >happystar doesn't get sarcasm. >People actually try to make this shitty thread worthwhile and informative. >happystar doesn't add anything to his own thread but malicious cuntery. I applaud the people actually making an effort to save this thread. |
Cruella de Vil 21.08.2018 12:10 |
Dear Mr Happystar, I was quite astounded by your 'threat': " if we were in a pub id take you outside and sort this out. " REALLY? This is a forum about a rock band. Go to an anger management specialist and fuck off. |
Star* 21.08.2018 13:46 |
Cruella de vil You spout off about me needing anger management course when you have just told me to fuck off, well you are a joke and your name matches you down to the ground cruella de vill ! I think you should get of my fucking thread fuck wit, |
Holly2003 21.08.2018 14:38 |
Vocal harmony wrote: Indeed, the Glass Spider shows were another huge step forward at the time. I still find it exciting even today. Unfortunatly a lot of the inpact of seeing a live production now has been lost as everything is all over YouTube after the the first night of a tour. The other thing to remember, from a proffecional point of view, almost everything you see in most productions is put together using off the shelf components, or redesigned/reconfigured of the shelf products. So although the audience is seeing something new, what us "insiders" see is a development and progression from a year or two before. From a lighting point of view, for years and years the Parcan was the standard lamp, in different guises. Every 70's and 80's Queen show was based around Parcans. However in the very early 80's the Varilite appeared. Genesis who put money into the development of the varilite were the first band to take out an entirely Varilite based rig, a major leap forward, up until 86 Queen still used the old and largely outdated Parcans. The first series varilite were developed and the system is now standard, the French Klay Paky company are probably the leading and most wide spread development of the original Varilite.Surely all that's required for a rock concert is a red guitar, three chords and the truth? :) |
Star* 21.08.2018 14:59 |
VH On the subject of lighting i always thought Queen had poor lighting on stage back in 1974 around the time of the Rainbow concert, the band were very dark on stage and apart from the odd green haze of light going around the stage i thought the lighting let them down very badly. |
Nick Browning 21.08.2018 21:15 |
It’s all about economics |