| Sealion 22.04.2018 13:17 |
While using my free time to read and watch a bit about my old love Queen on the net, I found something interesting on Queen Official/youtube. It’s an interview with Adam Lambert on „Lorraine“ (ITV-UK) from last week. Since it seemed to be mostly about his collaboration with Queen, I clicked on it. After watching, I really think Brian and Roger made a good choice, when they chose Adam as their lead singer back in 2012. (And I was very reluctant, if I remember it correctly.) In this Interview AL comes across very likable and reasonable. In the beginning he answers a lot of questions about his collaboration with Brian and Roger. It was nice to hear, how much respect he had especially in the beginning, when they did their first gigs. Alas, that would be natural, me thinks. ;) Unfortunately he wasn’t asked about the upcoming gigs in Europe, but otherwise the interview was interesting to watch. The sometimes „too-much-over-the-top-guy“ seems to be a nice guy. Somehow that reminds me of good old Freddie: the guy on stage was a different persona from that behind the scene... Here is the link: link |
| Vocal harmony 22.04.2018 13:44 |
Glad you spotted the difference between someone who has to win over 20,000 and the person behind the stage image. It just amazes me that the same few people on here can't see that. |
| Sealion 22.04.2018 14:00 |
Yeah, actually, I know, that a stage persona is most of the time different from the real person. As I said, just look at Freddie as an example for that. I guess my problem with Adam in the beginning was his image. And I watched interviews with him in 2011 (?) and he looked the same as on stage. He never came over as a natural person (at least to me, who didn’t dig deeper). Nevertheless I went to see Brian and Roger play with him in 2015 and I thought the show (and Adam) was great. No objections there. This new interview shows clearly the person behind the stage persona, without costumes and make-up. I liked it. |
| rockchic65 22.04.2018 14:31 |
I like seeing Adam in interview almost as much as watching him perform, he has a very warm, likeable personality. He must be a dream for an interviewer, he just goes with the flow and he's pretty open as well. |
| Sealion 22.04.2018 15:07 |
O.K. It wasn’t my intention to start an AL praise and adoration thread. lol The guy is talented and nice, IMO. He got lucky, when he got the Queen-gig. (I‘m not speaking about his own career, which he surely seems to have.) And for those Queenies, who don’t know that much about the Adam behind the stage persona, this interview could be interesting. I guess the Glamberts don’t find it that new. |
| andres_clip 22.04.2018 15:54 |
Difference between Freddie and adam is that Mercury created timeless and the other is just a puppet sing thoose songs. Nevermind he is likeable and can also be that. Shit thread |
| andres_clip 22.04.2018 15:55 |
andres_clip wrote: Difference between Freddie and adam is that Mercury created timeless hits and the other is just a puppet singing thoose songs. Nevermind he is likeable and I can also be that. Shit thread |
| Sealion 22.04.2018 16:14 |
@andres_clip Sorry, that the thread isn’t to your taste. Not. Just create your own then. |
| SweetCaroline 22.04.2018 16:27 |
I still can’t believe that the Adam we see today is the same guy who was singing at his high school graduation at age 18: link |
| andres_clip 22.04.2018 16:48 |
I will but do but dont stress us other Queen fans about this adam. Create adamzone.com or something |
| Sealion 22.04.2018 17:01 |
There is a reason, I posted in this + Adam Lambert section of this forum, you know? Don’t read here, if you’re not interested. It’s that easy, buddy.... ;) |
| andres_clip 23.04.2018 05:37 |
F u c k off with your adam section on queenzone.com too. |
| reesefallon 23.04.2018 14:09 |
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| Iron Butterfly 23.04.2018 14:35 |
A Glambert telling a Queen fan not to read it if not interested. On a Queen board. :-/. It's really easy to post on AL boards too. Of course on one board called Adamtopia, one has to be a fan of Adam's. What next? Posts here about who is walking AL's dog to be posted here? Or what Twitter and Instagram posts AL clicks like on? |
| Sealion 23.04.2018 15:23 |
Guys, if you can‘t stay on topic, then we should leave it. And it bothers me, that it seems not possible in this forum to discuss QAL (or an interview, that is about QAL) without fans either starting a love-feast about AL or fans hating on him and everyone, who can enjoy QAL. Stay on topic, play fair and we can discuss different opinions. In a mannered way. Don’t answer, if you’re not interested. Find something you like to talk about in another thread. It’s a hard life, I know. Cheers. |
| master marathon runner 23.04.2018 17:11 |
History will show that AL was not a member of the mighty Queen. And this is Queenzone |
| SweetCaroline 23.04.2018 17:52 |
The mighty Queen has been gone for 26 years and even longer since their last performance was on August 9, 1986 at Knebworth. |
| Sealion 23.04.2018 18:20 |
You sound like a child in kindergarten... Queen will exist as long as their music is being heard. Adam isn‘t a member of Queen and will never be. But he is the lead-singer in this ongoing collaboration. By prompting Bri and Roger to go out and play, he helps to bring joy to many fans. And it‘s them, who said, it‘s Adam‘s fault. So I accept that. He‘s doing a damn good job by now! I‘m just glad, that I can still attend shows with the old boys. Some should remember, that we had a draught of almost 20 years, before they startet again to play Queen songs with Paul. Back then I never thought, I would see them again... |
| kosimodo 23.04.2018 18:45 |
The kid can sing.. use it. I enjoyed the latest concerts much more then that paul rogers guy. But... man.. adams voice is high.. and fits more with the slower songs. He can pull of a GOFLB. Paul couldnt. Never. Use that voice. Queen has enough songs to make it fit. |
| Sealion 23.04.2018 19:58 |
Yes, Adam’s voice (or rather tone) is high. I‘m not sure, GOFLB would really fit, but I would actually take any change to the setlist. Nevermore comes to mind or any other song of Queen ll (black). Love TMOTBQ, but I‘m not sure Adam (and our old boys) could pull that off... Maybe a short bit in a medley like they did in the old times... SSOR revisited would be a sure one, I liked it in 2015. I would also love Too much love will kill you as a new ballad. Or SYW or IL like in the US... So many options. |
| Iron Butterfly 23.04.2018 20:14 |
SweetCaroline wrote: The mighty Queen has been gone for 26 years and even longer since their last performance was on August 9, 1986 at Knebworth.Queen's music has never died out. Want to know why? Freddie, Brian, Roger and John. Take a long listen to the back catalogue and you will know why. I think and strongly believe that the music lasted before Adam. Ad it will last after Adam. Not because of the "almighty" AL. |
| Iron Butterfly 23.04.2018 20:21 |
Sealion wrote: You sound like a child in kindergarten... Queen will exist as long as their music is being heard. Adam isn‘t a member of Queen and will never be. But he is the lead-singer in this ongoing collaboration. By prompting Bri and Roger to go out and play, he helps to bring joy to many fans. And it‘s them, who said, it‘s Adam‘s fault. So I accept that. He‘s doing a damn good job by now! I‘m just glad, that I can still attend shows with the old boys. Some should remember, that we had a draught of almost 20 years, before they startet again to play Queen songs with Paul. Back then I never thought, I would see them again...You sound like a Glambert. ;-). I also strongly believe that if Brian and Roger weren't touring with Adam that Brian and Roger would still be involved in music someway, possibly solo albums, working with other artists, or even working on the music that's left in the vaults. To me, AL will never be a member of Queen. I think of him as a guest. Q+AL isn't a whole new band for Brian and Roger, or even AL. I will still think that way for example, even if they choose to do a studio album. |
| SweetCaroline 23.04.2018 21:56 |
Maybe the drag queen who sang TSMGO on American Idol last night can replace Adam and the Freddie fans can have someone new to pick on! |
| Iron Butterfly 23.04.2018 22:44 |
SweetCaroline wrote: Maybe the drag queen who sang TSMGO on American Idol last night can replace Adam and the Freddie fans can have someone new to pick on!Who would have thought... AL singing Queen songs is so replaceable for you? LMAO. And if Brian and Roger ever performed with someone else you would surely bitch about that too, as you have bitched about Lady GaGa, Nate from Fun. You don't want anything to take away from your dear Adam...not even Brian and Roger, since you even bitched about my liking Roger singing DOOL. |
| SweetCaroline 24.04.2018 03:12 |
I have no problem with Roger singing TATDOOL or anything else. I just think it is crazy that is the ONLY song you like in their magnificent show! |
| Iron Butterfly 24.04.2018 05:56 |
SweetCaroline wrote: I have no problem with Roger singing TATDOOL or anything else. I just think it is crazy that is the ONLY song you like in their magnificent show!As you would say "wrong!!!". Yeah, I remember your posts about Lady GaGa and Nate. You weren't happy that someone else had the chance to sing Queen songs with Brian and Roger, because you said it took away from Adam's time, and no one could or should sing Queen songs like Adam. I liked It's Late. too. There is a very good version f TYMD that I also liked. But hey, don't let that stop you from assuming things. Where did I say DOOL was the only song I liked? But it's my favorite from the shows, and I'm not sorry or embarrassed by it, in case that's what you are after. I guess that bugs you enough to mock for me for liking DOOL, because it's not AL singing it. I doubt you even care about the song and video, and why it's so important and belovd, because you are so insultated in your AL bubble. AL being the one that sings most of the songs n the Q+AL shows is what is important to you. Did you ever have anything to say about Roger singing DOOL other than mocking me for liking it, or Brian singing LOML? I don't think you have very often. Then again, you are the one who said AL wearing heels while riding the bike onstage is brave. If you want real, honest, bravery, look up the history of DOOL...then you just might not mock me for liking it. Or at least understand why I like it so much. |
| andres_clip 24.04.2018 07:47 |
SweetCaroline wrote: The mighty Queen has been gone for 26 years and even longer since their last performance was on August 9, 1986 at Knebworth.Baha thats were you wrong. Queen will live forever. Nevermind Knebworth. The show will go on even when we are long gone. |
| andres_clip 24.04.2018 07:52 |
SweetCaroline wrote: The mighty Queen has been gone for 26 years and even longer since their last performance was on August 9, 1986 at Knebworth.Please move on to adamzone.... |
| Iron Butterfly 24.04.2018 08:24 |
andres_clip wrote:Queen Lives Foerever. I saw that during the Freddie Tribute when it was televised. That person got it right. I'm amazed the legacy still lives on...I can't see it going away any time soon.SweetCaroline wrote: The mighty Queen has been gone for 26 years and even longer since their last performance was on August 9, 1986 at Knebworth.Baha thats were you wrong. Queen will live forever. Nevermind Knebworth. The show will go on even when we are long gone. |
| Iron Butterfly 24.04.2018 08:29 |
andres_clip wrote:She can't you see. How else are we supposed to figure out AL is so sexy, gorgeous, good looking, the best singer, and the best in anything and everything if sweetcaroline isn't the one to tell us! It's her "job" to promote, praise and defend and get all the Queen fans on QZ and QOL to become Glamberts. And when that doesn't happen...meltdowns and butthurt comence and never end.SweetCaroline wrote: The mighty Queen has been gone for 26 years and even longer since their last performance was on August 9, 1986 at Knebworth.Please move on to adamzone.... ;-). |
| Holly2003 24.04.2018 08:36 |
SweetCaroline wrote: The mighty Queen has been gone for 26 years and even longer since their last performance was on August 9, 1986 at Knebworth.Yes, they are Queen minus 2 members now. And Queen minus 2, plus Adam Lambert doesn't add up to just Queen never mind Queen+. And that's why lots of fans aren't interested. Get it now? |
| Iron Butterfly 24.04.2018 08:42 |
Holly2003 wrote:Good luck with that. She hasn't gotten it once since Q+AL started touring.SweetCaroline wrote: The mighty Queen has been gone for 26 years and even longer since their last performance was on August 9, 1986 at Knebworth.Yes, they are Queen minus 2 members now. And Queen minus 2, plus Adam Lambert doesn't add up to just Queen never mind Queen+. And that's why lots of fans aren't interested. Get it now? |
| SweetCaroline 24.04.2018 12:02 |
I never said that Queen + Adam or Paul is Queen! I agreed that the mighty Queen has been gone since August 9, 1986! That doesn’t mean their music has been gone and it is shameful that some people resent that Brian and Roger still want to pass it on LIVE to current generations. |
| Holly2003 24.04.2018 12:17 |
SweetCaroline wrote: I never said that Queen + Adam or Paul is Queen! I agreed that the mighty Queen has been gone since August 9, 1986! That doesn’t mean their music has been gone and it is shameful that some people resent that Brian and Roger still want to pass it on LIVE to current generations.Shameful? What planet do you live on? Shameful is poverty, deprivation, war etc. Commenting on music is a pastime. I notice you didn't actually respond to my point. Do you see why so called Queen+ might not be of interest to some Queen fans? Has the penny dropped yet? |
| Iron Butterfly 24.04.2018 14:46 |
SweetCaroline wrote: I never said that Queen + Adam or Paul is Queen! I agreed that the mighty Queen has been gone since August 9, 1986! That doesn’t mean their music has been gone and it is shameful that some people resent that Brian and Roger still want to pass it on LIVE to current generations.You don't care about Queen except for AL singing the Queen songs. Thats all that matters for you. Suddenly, you 'agree' that Queen is "gone" since 1986. What do you think of the Freddie Tribute from 1992, and Made In Heaven may I ask? Both are more Queen than anything Q+AL ever did and ever will be. Queen has never gone away. And no, that's not because of Adam. There are many reasons why Queen is legendary, and again not because of Adam. Adam isn't the super hero l you want and need him to be. Queen were legends before the +'s, and they will be after...but not because of Adam. Were you not resentful when Lady GaGa and Nate from Fun joined Brian and Roger for a song? Yes dear, you were resentful, bitter ad butthurt because you felt they took away from Adam. On this board you said the Q+AL shows are Adam's time to shine. Anyone who has read your posts, especially from both Queen boards can pretty quickly figure out the way you think. I think it's awful and embarrassing the way that you use Queen boards the way you have for years now. You use both boards to praise, defend and promote AL.You can't even answer if you know about the history of DOOL, you'd much rather rant on and lash out. Oops, your true colors show at times and you are tripping over yourself once again. By the way, why the random CAPS in so many of your posts? Does your finger get stuck on that or something? |
| Iron Butterfly 24.04.2018 14:49 |
Holly2003 wrote:The planet is called planet firece. No kidding that's a thing in the Glambert world. LMAO.SweetCaroline wrote: I never said that Queen + Adam or Paul is Queen! I agreed that the mighty Queen has been gone since August 9, 1986! That doesn’t mean their music has been gone and it is shameful that some people resent that Brian and Roger still want to pass it on LIVE to current generations.Shameful? What planet do you live on? Shameful is poverty, deprivation, war etc. Commenting on music is a pastime. I notice you didn't actually respond to my point. Do you see why so called Queen+ might not be of interest to some Queen fans? Has the penny dropped yet? She won't answer. But going by her reaction above, that's the answer itself. Cue more from her about people being negative and haters. |
| SweetCaroline 25.04.2018 18:40 |
A good read about Queen and Adam: link |
| Holly2003 25.04.2018 19:56 |
Here is a picture of 3 kittens. link |
| Iron Butterfly 25.04.2018 20:15 |
Holly2003 wrote: Here is a picture of 3 kittens. linkSquee!! So cute! |
| runner_70 05.05.2018 08:48 |
5 years of touring with Lamebird = 5 years of utter embarrasment |
| Vocal harmony 06.05.2018 11:05 |
runner_70 wrote: 5 years of touring with Lamebird = 5 years of utter embarrasmentThe fact that no one has agreed with you and they are selling thousands upon thousands of tickets around the world = 5 years of utter success I would say. |
| thomasquinn 32989 06.05.2018 12:33 |
I think you're both guilty of enormous hyperbole in opposite directions. It's not a dramatic failure and it's not a great success either. Kind of a middling thing. Because, let's be honest, any band with name-recognition like Queen's is going to sell quite a few tickets regardless of what they're putting on stage, and if it were a dramatic failure it wouldn't have gone on for five years. I'm pretty sure neither side in the 'great debate' is going to like this observation much, but it's becoming pretty clear to the disinterested observer that this whole thing is basically just about making a profit, giving Brian and Roger an ego-boost (let's face it, it would be hard for anyone to go from worldwide stardom to relative obscurity, and as much as we Queen-fans would like it to be otherwise, that is what gradually happened to the guys after '91) and the company that owns Adam Lambert working to up his market value. If it's enjoyable to some/many fans, that's icing on the cake, but it was never the main purpose. |
| Vocal harmony 06.05.2018 13:09 |
Thomas I absolutely agree with you, apart from one thing. Yes it's obviously a way to make money, but I'm not sure it's what is driving this current tour. My reasoning is that if it were a pure money making exercise why tour with a 22 trailer production and well over 70 crew. The design/production costs are huge. They are touring in (relatively) short bursts, committing to tour extensions roughly six months in advance, which means they are paying retainers on crew that aren't doing much for 8 to 12 week periods, somtimes longer. It also means that production rehearsals have to be done at significant cost if only to check the equipment is all working and re jog memories so that band and crew actually know what they are doing. Also they are shelling out money for storing the equipment when the tour is taking a break. All of this points towards a band who are touring because they are enjoying it and only doing so when they feel they want too. I'm not saying it's not earning them money but dates closer together with a smaller production would yield a bigger return |
| thomasquinn 32989 06.05.2018 13:37 |
I think there are a few things going on here: 1) Touring is, physically and mentally, very rough. Brian and Roger just can't handle that sort of thing for months on end anymore, or at the very least don't want to do it for months on end. They're certainly in a position to make demands, and it makes business sense not to wear them out by doing too many concerts in too short a space of time - not to mention that shorter bursts of concerts will likely mean more demand for tickets than constant touring, because of perceived scarcity. 2) I mentioned three objectives, and I don't think money-making is vastly more important than the other two - I think we can safely say that, based on several decade of observation, Brian is the kind of person who really needs attention and affirmation to feel good about himself (actually quite common), so for him, the enthusiastic crowds are probably the most important - he probably wants to play primarily for *devoted* crowds, but not to such an extent that it wears him out completely. For the AL-side, marketing their product (Adam) is obviously most important - they would probably want as many shows as possible in as many different areas as possible and to keep the Q+AL association going as long as it helps raise Adam Lambert's profile (and thus, his value to them), with ticket prices high enough to have a precedent later on, but low enough to attract large crowds. Then, there are the general corporate interests behind organizing the tour(s), who simply want to make as much money out of this as possible. The whole thing seems to be about balancing those different desires and interests. Note that I don't mention Roger - I really don't have a clue what is motivating him. 3) I've never looked into the logistical side of this tour, but I wouldn't be surprised if the crew are not working exclusively for Q+AL, so they might just get fairly low retainers when not working on the tour. It is entirely possible that only a handful of key personnel is retained, while other functions are filled in as needed. |
| Vocal harmony 07.05.2018 12:01 |
The problem with paying low retailers is that you risk losing people. Crew who choose to work (and I'm not saying you're wrong by any means) for other acts during down time are limited by time to what they can do, certainly any act touring at arena level will usually book Europe, U.K. and US dates as a continuation and would need crew who could tour over long periods. It's usual for most crew members to be employed on a tour through the PA, lighting or video company they work for, and usually teams are put together so that the touring party has a certain consistency and familiarity. In theory it makes for better and more productive working relationships. FOH sound and lighting operators tend to be kept long term. Trip worked for Queen for many years, and then Queen+PR. He wasn't available in 2012 and since then because of commitments to Kiss and Roger Waters, I believe he left the Roger Waters tour last year and has since possibly retired. Your point about Brian needing that audience reaction is true and I'm sure that is the kind of thing driving him to do this, but I think that fits my idea that they are doing this for enjoyment rather than purely economic reasons. I think Roger is in a similar position, quite simply does he play Radio GaGa to 1200 people or upwards of 12,000. He is more reserved then Brian on stage but he laps the adulation just as much. As you say Lambert is different because he has a current career to build and needs to be seen, but I also think that those rehearsed lines about Freddie and how much he appreciates stand on that stage actually do carry an honest sentiment. I firmly believe that they could tour a production half the size they are doing, as they did in 2005 with Paul Rodgers and stand to make a greater profit. |
| runner_70 07.05.2018 19:48 |
With PR the music was the main focus including the BC/PR songs and it worked. This time the music is not important at all its just about the gimmicks and promoting the annoying tool on vocals. Too bad they dont see that they are maing a complete fool out of themselves and are just plain hippocrites when you remember their statements from the past (C-lebtrity/hating cassting muppets-and now they tour exactly with such a "thing") |
| rockchic65 07.05.2018 21:40 |
runner_70 Except he's not a casting muppet, only in your mind and you're wrong about the music not being important. I know you think he just prats about with the bike etc but that's a really small part of the show and if he wasn't bothered about the music why did he get Spike to record all the songs on the keyboard for him so he could work on them before they go to rehearsal, to work on the phrasing etc. He doesn't take himself seriously but he's very serious about getting the music right. |
| Iron Butterfly 07.05.2018 23:04 |
rockchic65 wrote: runner_70 Except he's not a casting muppet, only in your mind and you're wrong about the music not being important. I know you think he just prats about with the bike etc but that's a really small part of the show and if he wasn't bothered about the music why did he get Spike to record all the songs on the keyboard for him so he could work on them before they go to rehearsal, to work on the phrasing etc. He doesn't take himself seriously but he's very serious about getting the music right.Too bad for Adam then, when he messed up the lyrics three nights in a row last year. That really was messy sounding. I hope there's more time for the guys to rehearse before the next shows and the Vegas residency. |
| rockchic65 07.05.2018 23:20 |
Bullet with Butterfly Wings wrote:Everyone messes up lyrics occasionally, even Freddie. Don't think it's anything to do with rehearsal time, he sometimes forgets lyrics to his own songs on his solo tour, he's the first to admit it, no one's perfect.rockchic65 wrote: runner_70 Except he's not a casting muppet, only in your mind and you're wrong about the music not being important. I know you think he just prats about with the bike etc but that's a really small part of the show and if he wasn't bothered about the music why did he get Spike to record all the songs on the keyboard for him so he could work on them before they go to rehearsal, to work on the phrasing etc. He doesn't take himself seriously but he's very serious about getting the music right.Too bad for Adam then, when he messed up the lyrics three nights in a row last year. That really was messy sounding. I hope there's more time for the guys to rehearse before the next shows and the Vegas residency. |
| Iron Butterfly 07.05.2018 23:46 |
rockchic65 wrote:Oh yes, the old chestnut. Even Freddie forgot the lyrics, yes it's true and I've never denied it. I couldn't even try to deny it.Bullet with Butterfly Wings wrote:Everyone messes up lyrics occasionally, even Freddie. Don't think it's anything to do with rehearsal time, he sometimes forgets lyrics to his own songs on his solo tour, he's the first to admit it, no one's perfect.rockchic65 wrote: runner_70 Except he's not a casting muppet, only in your mind and you're wrong about the music not being important. I know you think he just prats about with the bike etc but that's a really small part of the show and if he wasn't bothered about the music why did he get Spike to record all the songs on the keyboard for him so he could work on them before they go to rehearsal, to work on the phrasing etc. He doesn't take himself seriously but he's very serious about getting the music right.Too bad for Adam then, when he messed up the lyrics three nights in a row last year. That really was messy sounding. I hope there's more time for the guys to rehearse before the next shows and the Vegas residency. How AL messed up Bohemian Rhapsody three nights in a row seemed like he was half assing it. And Bohemian Rhapsody of all songs. Freddie wasn't perfect, and nor is AL. Not disputng that at all. Credit to you for at least admitting that AL messed up. |
| bucsateflon 10.05.2018 17:43 |
Someone give a heads up when they surpass the live shows count of the old lineup with Freddie. |
| Lamebert whoehahaha 12.11.2018 22:49 |
5 wasted years of DISGRACE! |
| Lamebert whoehahaha 19.11.2018 08:55 |
5 years of fucked up cheap cabaret with a dressed up clown as a singer, a grumpy old man that plays the guitar and meanwhile whines about badgers and an old man behind the drum kit who needs his son and others to be able to participate fluently in a rockshow anno 2018. Maylor should’ve followed John’ s example |
| Vocal harmony 19.11.2018 14:20 |
Lamebert whoehahaha wrote: Maylor should’ve followed John’ s exampleNo there's no need for two more Bass players! |
