| cmsdrums 13.04.2018 16:39 |
link And here we finally are - an exclusive release specifically tied to an album, and to promote a tour....without a single note of music in it! |
| *goodco* 13.04.2018 17:49 |
For the price they charged for the 'bone us' release, these stupid items should have been included. I feel for the poor Portugese fans......or any other idiot who shells out their money for this. |
| people on streets 14.04.2018 10:12 |
For the price of an official t-shirt this package is a good deal for those who are interested in it. Merchandising and live shows is where the money is these days. Nothing wrong with that. If you don't like it, don't buy it. Simple. |
| thomasquinn 32989 14.04.2018 10:31 |
people on streets wrote: If you don't like it, don't buy it. Simple.You seem to be suggesting that we're not allowed to criticize lousy products. Not so. Queen has become an empty, soulless merchandising machine. A sad and ignominious end to a once-great band, and something that will (not "might") tarnish Queen's reputation in the future. |
| Nick Browning 14.04.2018 23:04 |
jesus, man |
| matt z 15.04.2018 01:49 |
How much WAS it? I don't speak Portuguese but i believe it says UNAVAILABLE |
| people on streets 15.04.2018 11:52 |
thomasquinn 32989 wrote:I'm not suggesting anything.people on streets wrote: If you don't like it, don't buy it. Simple.You seem to be suggesting that we're not allowed to criticize lousy products. Not so. Queen has become an empty, soulless merchandising machine. A sad and ignominious end to a once-great band, and something that will (not "might") tarnish Queen's reputation in the future. Feel free to criticize anything you want! What's a lousy product for one person, might be a great product for another person. We all have different opinions. |
| people on streets 15.04.2018 11:53 |
matt z wrote: How much WAS it? I don't speak Portuguese but i believe it says UNAVAILABLE24 EUR or so. Good deal in my opinion. |
| people on streets 15.04.2018 11:54 |
For those who missed it there's always an alternative! link ;)) |
| Thistle 15.04.2018 13:55 |
People can criticise what they want, but I don't really get what the problem is with this product. Are you going to go about moaning at every band that ever sold a t-shirt, badge or mug (or figure, mouse-mat, stationery set etc etc)? It's just a bit of merch. Everyone does it. What's the issue? |
| Costa86 15.04.2018 14:53 |
thomasquinn 32989 wrote:I couldn't agree more. The more time passes since Freddie's death, the more the whole Queen legacy is being treated badly.people on streets wrote: If you don't like it, don't buy it. Simple.You seem to be suggesting that we're not allowed to criticize lousy products. Not so. Queen has become an empty, soulless merchandising machine. A sad and ignominious end to a once-great band, and something that will (not "might") tarnish Queen's reputation in the future. And, the saddest thing is that the "Queen" aura has been lost. You think of great bands like Led Zep, Pink Floyd, The Beatles - some of which have long since disbanded, others still doing live performances - and you still picture them positively. When it comes to Queen, they've become a sort of overweight Elvis Impersonator, doing his moves 40 years after the singers death, with all the charm kicked out of the equation - just a sad imitation. |
| Thistle 15.04.2018 15:11 |
You've got to be joking, right? Zep, Floyd and The Beatles are also guilty of rehashing material, overpriced boxsets and bringing out tonnes of merch. At the end of the day, you either buy it or you don't. The only reason you're viewing these guys more positively and getting pissed at Queen is that you choose to get pissed at Queen. It's a grievance, and you're using other big names to highlight your annoyance, without actually realising that these other big names are equally culpable. |
| Saint Jiub 15.04.2018 22:55 |
Thistleboy1980 wrote: You've got to be joking, right? Zep, Floyd and The Beatles are also guilty of rehashing material, overpriced boxsets and bringing out tonnes of merch. At the end of the day, you either buy it or you don't. The only reason you're viewing these guys more positively and getting pissed at Queen is that you choose to get pissed at Queen. It's a grievance, and you're using other big names to highlight your annoyance, without actually realising that these other big names are equally culpable.Has Zep, Floyd or the Beatles released a five disk set with only one disk of non-recycled songs? |
| Thistle 16.04.2018 04:22 |
Your skewing this somewhat. You are, of course, referring to the NOTW box as a "5 disc set". Take one of the five out - it's an LP. Now you have 4 Discs. 2 of these discs (one being a DVD), in their entirety. were unreleased. The other was a mish-mash of stuff, but a number of tracks unreleased. So you got 2.5 discs of new stuff. That meant 1 re-released album and half a disc of filler stuff. Have the Beatles done that? You bet they have. The Sgt. Pepper box set included two versions of the album and a DVD of stuff that had been on TV years and years ago. Have Zep done it? I'm pretty sure the boxes they brought out a couple of years back were an excuse to re-release albums, with a few discs of out-takes. At the end of the day, folk are pissing their pants at a bit of merch Queen released in another country. Big whoop. |
| bucsateflon 17.04.2018 07:15 |
Led Zep is a much inferior product with very little material compared to Queen |
| dysan 17.04.2018 07:55 |
I've said it before, but if you take the 2011 bonus tracks as a whole and dumped them onto us in, say, 2005, we'd have been the happiest little bunnies. It's just the way they chose to do it by grafting the material onto the relevant albums for context (and sales of course!) What we've had a archival stuff is generally great. Just a shame it's been spread over 20 years (starting with the Hollywood CDs) And yes, again I think there was plenty to keep us happy in the Hollywood CDs too - however unfortunately it was the dire dance remixes that stick in the mind. Again though - that was their angle back then so no harm. I keep changing my opinion on how they are doing compared to their contemporaries. For volume of unreleased stuff they are leagues ahead of say Bowie or Sparks when comparing like for like. As they are arguably in the same commercial league as Beatles and Elvis now it would be great to get similar archival stuff to those acts - the NOTW box hinted that this might be their new angle. |
| The Fairy King 17.04.2018 09:46 |
I have been actively following the bands releases since 1995 and must say i didn't really pay attention to releases before that(pre-internet). How well were releases received around 1989-1991? The non-album b-sides on the singles for The Miracle and Innuendo for example? Box Of Trix, Box of Flix, The Freddie Mercury Album, etc. |
| dysan 17.04.2018 15:32 |
They were kind of 'normal' at the time. Desirable but you only really heard of them after the event. Finding Rare Live and The Magic Years in the local HMV was really exciting (of course, hindsight reveals that they, Rare Live in particular, were flawed). FM album seemed a bit of a cash in - the first of many released designed to introduce new fans to the solo stuff. The extra tracks on the Miracle singles were great because you had an extra layer of fandom to discuss, but again were most likely born out of the times they were released when non-album material was everywhere on b-sides so again just seemed 'normal'. Like you say, pre-internet all this was special but meant to know what was on what, you really had to hunt. Being an 80s tape fan it was amazing to me to look through the CDs even before I had a player and WOW! the booklets! |
| The Fairy King 17.04.2018 16:55 |
dysan wrote: They were kind of 'normal' at the time. Desirable but you only really heard of them after the event. Finding Rare Live and The Magic Years in the local HMV was really exciting (of course, hindsight reveals that they, Rare Live in particular, were flawed). FM album seemed a bit of a cash in - the first of many released designed to introduce new fans to the solo stuff. The extra tracks on the Miracle singles were great because you had an extra layer of fandom to discuss, but again were most likely born out of the times they were released when non-album material was everywhere on b-sides so again just seemed 'normal'. Like you say, pre-internet all this was special but meant to know what was on what, you really had to hunt. Being an 80s tape fan it was amazing to me to look through the CDs even before I had a player and WOW! the booklets!I can imagine. Funny you mention finding stuff. I remember checking out our record store sporadically and finding new stuff....without context. It was exciting actually...i miss those days. God, i sound old. :D Made in Heaven (colored vinyl) was an especially exciting find back then. Glad i picked it up. There were of course ads on tv...but not that many. I remember finding the first album somewhere in 93 i reckon...and it was one of those things. I had no idea what to expect. I bought it because it said Queen and i recognized Seven Seas of Rhye....so i was sure it was them...but still it was a weird purchase. I didn't know it was their first album. There was no actual bootleg (AAD CD release from the 80s - CDP 7 46204 2). Imagine my surprise listening to that for the first time. Aaaaah good times. |