QueenZone discussion #1501046

Anton3283 wrote: Blah blah blah coming soon 1978

happystar wrote: I do believe though that Brian & Roger still have a lot of private unreleased stuff that they wont let go off as its better than what has previously been released. We aint seen half of the brilliance in the archives yet

Jimmy Dean wrote: it really is Queen's worst album. If it didn't have 3 huge singles - more of you would agree. not only does it have the highest percentage of weak tracks, but it also has a bad running order and is in my opinion the worst-produced album in their catalog.

The Real Wizard wrote:

Jimmy Dean wrote: it really is Queen's worst album. If it didn't have 3 huge singles - more of you would agree. not only does it have the highest percentage of weak tracks, but it also has a bad running order and is in my opinion the worst-produced album in their catalog.

Partially agree, but I wouldn't go that far. Jazz is the first time they're out in the wilderness a bit. They've sorted out their finances, and they're no longer hungry. But while the album has a few spotty bits and 2 or 3 of the tracks aren't up their standard set on the previous string of albums, it's far from their worst moment. By the 80s they were way less focused and purely writing as individuals. They were still much more of a unit in 1978, and the lack of togetherness shows on many of the later albums. Hot Space and AKOM are far weaker - they are each half filler. Jazz is sonically the weakest 70s Queen album for sure, but it has far too many redeeming features to be considered the worst in their catalogue. Fun It is the weakest track, but it's still far better than the derivative trite that is Pain Is So Close To Pleasure and Don't Lose Your Head. When I think of an album with three hits and filler, I think of AKOM, not Jazz. Jazz, while weak at times, is still a band being artistic and maintaining some sense of focus. We just can't say the same for most of AKOM and Hot Space. If you took away One Vision, Who Wants To Live Forever, and Princes Of The Universe, what's left on AKOM? And if Hot Space doesn't have the last three tracks, what's left? In both cases - not much. Jealousy, Dead On Time, and In Only Seven Days are still quintessential Queen. Certainly they're not as strong as the non-singles on SHA or ANATO, but these tracks are far from filler. That said, they also do mark the end of the early Queen sound.

mooghead wrote: Start using your actual ears. Decide what you the sound of. It is ok. I like the Hollywood discs. I don't care. Free yourself...... I can fly my friends.......! (or does the line go flat by then?)

mike hunt wrote:

The Real Wizard wrote:

Jimmy Dean wrote: it really is Queen's worst album. If it didn't have 3 huge singles - more of you would agree. not only does it have the highest percentage of weak tracks, but it also has a bad running order and is in my opinion the worst-produced album in their catalog.

Partially agree, but I wouldn't go that far. Jazz is the first time they're out in the wilderness a bit. They've sorted out their finances, and they're no longer hungry. But while the album has a few spotty bits and 2 or 3 of the tracks aren't up their standard set on the previous string of albums, it's far from their worst moment. By the 80s they were way less focused and purely writing as individuals. They were still much more of a unit in 1978, and the lack of togetherness shows on many of the later albums. Hot Space and AKOM are far weaker - they are each half filler. Jazz is sonically the weakest 70s Queen album for sure, but it has far too many redeeming features to be considered the worst in their catalogue. Fun It is the weakest track, but it's still far better than the derivative trite that is Pain Is So Close To Pleasure and Don't Lose Your Head. When I think of an album with three hits and filler, I think of AKOM, not Jazz. Jazz, while weak at times, is still a band being artistic and maintaining some sense of focus. We just can't say the same for most of AKOM and Hot Space. If you took away One Vision, Who Wants To Live Forever, and Princes Of The Universe, what's left on AKOM? And if Hot Space doesn't have the last three tracks, what's left? In both cases - not much. Jealousy, Dead On Time, and In Only Seven Days are still quintessential Queen. Certainly they're not as strong as the non-singles on SHA or ANATO, but these tracks are far from filler. That said, they also do mark the end of the early Queen sound.

This post is spot on for me.

happystar wrote: No way is "JAZZ" the worst Queen album, i think INNUENDO takes that title as the band were just letting Freddie sing anything to get the work out of him. I do believe though that Brian & Roger still have a lot of private unreleased stuff that they wont let go off as its better than what has previously been released. We aint seen half of the brilliance in the archives yet and Freddie has been gone 26 years! Maybe when May & Taylor are hard up they might give in and treat us all !

Vocal harmony wrote: It's easily their best 80's recorded album. To claim it to be their worst is so wide of the mark. Interesting that even when singling an album out as their worst Gerry oops I mean happystar still manages to blame the other three for "letting Freddie sing anything to get the work out of him". If that was the case at the very least the playing, musical content and production raises it above some of the other albums.