| Day dop 09.01.2018 19:51 |
The Original High Released: June 16, 2015 Label: Warner Bros. Formats: CD, digital download, LP US: 42,000 CAN: 4,800 UK: 9,817 Compare that to, say, Ed Sheeran or Sam Smith, or some other current popular artist and it's fairly dire. What's that all about? |
| *goodco* 09.01.2018 20:16 |
but look at his chart success with the single 'Two Fux' Peak positions: #72 Czech Republic (Rádio Top 100) #1 Finland Download (Latauslista) #19 Hungary (Single Top 40) #47 Poland (Polish Airplay Top 100) |
| Holly2003 09.01.2018 20:26 |
Has 'No 1 in Finland' replaced 'Big in Belgium' in rock's satirical tomfoolery? |
| Arnaldo "Ogre-" Silveira 09.01.2018 20:44 |
In fact, he is supposed to have been # 1 in Finland... DOWNLOADS, apparently according to Latauslista, whatever that means :) He might be big in Belgium, as well :) Jokes aside, I still like his current performances with the Band and hope they get to record together. *runs and hides* Cheers, Ogre- |
| QueenTwo 09.01.2018 21:51 |
Probably to do with talent and good songs/tunes? Ed Sheeran and or Sam Smith and alike are pretty talented singer songwriters and they're making good music which the public want to listen to. They are selling out huge arena's and stadium's also, just because lambert is singing for may & taylor doesn't mean he's gonna sell bucket loads of record's in his own right. As with most reality tv show singer's most are just a flash in the pan and only have around a 2 year life span? that's just the way it all work's, lambert's probably lasting a little longer because he's been touring so much with them? once that finishes i'm sure he will just fade away like the rest of the reality tv show type person's? his sale's in the uk speak for themselves here, even for the size of the USA to only sell that amount is very poor, Probably mostly only kid's who have purchased his record's and they alway's just move on to the next new guy on the block. |
| master marathon runner 09.01.2018 23:32 |
/\ . Sez it all. |
| mike hunt 09.01.2018 23:46 |
I already knew his solo career never took off....I wonder If his music sold more would he be still playing with Brian and Roger? Or he would have left for his solo career if he blew up like sam smith and Sheerhan. Anyway, the problem for him is he's not a good songwriter. I hope they don't record an album with him. Let the Queen name go.....It would be a pop and ballads album. Lambert can't sing Rock. |
| Bertus 10.01.2018 01:20 |
Where is SweetCaroline? haha |
| dysan 10.01.2018 08:53 |
As mentioned above - despite losing a TV talent contest he has actually carved a career for himself despite having pretty standard sales. I hope he has good people around him that are telling him to invest in property right now because this isn't going to last. Good on him I say. |
| Togg 10.01.2018 09:10 |
Err well Queens first album peaked at 24 in the UK 52 in Japan and 83 in the US So from small acorns as it were |
| Day dop 10.01.2018 09:51 |
Togg wrote: Err well Queens first album peaked at 24 in the UK 52 in Japan and 83 in the US So from small acorns as it wereExcept Queen went up the charts after that. Lambert started out good (due to American Idol) and now his album sales are taking a nosedive. |
| Graeme Arnott 10.01.2018 09:58 |
I'm pretty sure that had Queen had the same exposure as Adam then sales of the first album would have been far greater. |
| miraclesteinway 10.01.2018 11:36 |
I haven't listened to his albums but there could be several reasons for these poor sales: 1. The music is substandard and people don't want to buy it 2. The music is not substandard but it's difficult to market, people don't want to buy it 3. He's spending too much time with the Queen tour to really invest in his own career. 4. He's too associated with Queen to be taken seriously as a solo act in his own right. I don't think he's a bad singer at all, in fact I think he's an excellent singer, but he's very musical theatre. Perhaps that's the answer. Perhaps he should aim more at that market. He'd sell more, get paid more. I don't think he's a musician though. I think he's a singer. I don't think that he has the songwriting or production abilities that others have, and that will show through in recordings. |
| Invisible Woman 10.01.2018 11:53 |
It really doesn't matter to me how much someone sold albums. To me important is what I like or not. I like a few songs from Adam but I don't even know the names of his albums. |
| john bodega 10.01.2018 13:53 |
You might want to go with the more optimistic "Lambert's most recent album sales", he's not out of it yet! |
| RS_Protos 10.01.2018 14:35 |
Gift From God |
| Holly2003 10.01.2018 14:55 |
Don't forget the combined sum of the Glamberts' wisdom on this: 1. he sounds better live than in the studio 2. he didn't pick the singles so it's the record company's fault 3. homophobia 4. he's not fat, just big boned 5. ed sheeran, adele, sam smith etc are rubbish, but people buy their records and not lambert's because err... something something something dark side of the force. |
| Liliane 10.01.2018 17:42 |
Those are only the first week sales and it is purely album sales. It just looks dire because in general, pure album sales are dire across the board except for a selected few (Sam Smith, Adele, Taylor Swift, Beiber...) Adam debuted at no. 3 on the Billboard charts for his first album, no. 1 for his second album and no. 3 for his third album. Ghost Town from his latest album was a hit in many countries and was streamed hundreds of million times which count towards Album sales as well (1500 streams = 1 album sale) Ghost Town alone might have added at least 200k in album sales. In brief, he is not at the superstar level yet but is still doing pretty respectable. And anyway, these days, sales hardly equal quality. Just look at Bieber. |
| miraclesteinway 10.01.2018 20:36 |
well he's sold more albums than me. not as many as Queen. |
| mike hunt 10.01.2018 21:20 |
Yea, If he was a great musician or songwriter I wouldn't care about record sales. Some of my favorite musicians never sold millions of Records. Not going too list them all because there is so many of them.. Dr. John? Clutch? Into Another? Ok I named a few. Lambert has a voice...he could sing, but I Think his future is Broadway. He can't write music yet...he could sing, but he's not all that unique. Coming out with a crown like Freddie did is tacky. Ok, It's nice paying homage to your hero, but does he have any original ideas? |
| Liliane 10.01.2018 22:43 |
Of course, taste in music is pretty subjective. Most of you are Rock fans so maybe Adam's solo music being pop/electronic so it most probably will not appeal to you. I have all three of Adam's albums and I like the songs. My favorite songs of his were probably never heard because radio doesn't really play him all that much. I think he does good pop songs and would even argue that they usually have more depth than what you currently hear on the radio. And he co-writes most of them. I don't have a problem that you dislike his songs if you have actually heard them but among all of you, who actually did take the time to listen to his three CDs in full? Or you just assume his songs are crap? If you think the crown is tacky then it's your opinion. To each their own. I for one think it is representative of Queen and is a great symbol. It also makes the concert feel epic. It's also at the same time, a tribute to Freddie. Adam does have a lot of ideas and through what we have heard from the band, Adam contributed a lot to how to sing the songs, the staging, the outfits... The only thing I will concede is Adam is more of a vocalist than a musician and as a songwriter, if he wants to be taken seriously, he should release songs that are written solely by him. But in the pop world, most songs are written by a team of people. Rarely anyone writes alone these days. Even with bands, it is usually a joint effort. |
| The Real Wizard 10.01.2018 23:22 |
miraclesteinway wrote: The music is substandard and people don't want to buy itPlenty of substandard music sells well. His stuff is no better or worse than most of what's on the radio these days (which isn't saying much). And even though it may look like he's more committed to Queen than his solo career, he is still doing just fine. The numbers we're looking at are for the FIRST WEEK of sales. And these days in the digital age, 42,000 physical sales in the first week is pretty high. Most #1 albums sell about 50,000 copies in the first week. The album still peaked at #3 on the US billboard charts. He still has his major label deal, and they are clearly marketing him. Give it a rest, guys. No matter how much you want to hate him, he is popular and selling well, and his gigs with Queen have overwhelmingly been a success. |
| ggo1 11.01.2018 00:11 |
From what I see, his album sales are better than the cosmos rocks. *ducks* |
| mike hunt 11.01.2018 00:13 |
I Never hated lambert......Just stating his solo career never took off. I'm talking about here in the states not in Europe. I heard ghost town a few times on the radio then never heard it again. But he's selling enough albums, so he's fine.... he's playing with Brian May that's enough success alone. |
| Liliane 11.01.2018 01:54 |
Thank you The Real Wizard Mike Hunt, judging from your post, I would not say that you hate Adam at all. I just don't agree when you say that his solo career never took off. He still sold 3 million albums and 5 million singles worldwide on his own. And most of the sales come from the US. Ghost Town, The singles off his latest album, was also a top 20 radio hit and stayed on the radio for almost a year. He was also Grammy-nominated and all three of his albums debuted in the top 3 of the US billboard chart. He is also pretty eclectic and has been a guest on a few tv shows and a live musical... Of course, he is not at the superstar level yet where he could tour atenas and stadiums like Sam Smith, Sheeran, Swift, Bieber...but i would say that is doing pretty well compared to many others. |
| Liliane 11.01.2018 02:00 |
Mike Hunt: also, I agree with you about touring with Brian to be a success. I will be forever grateful to Brian & Roger for recognizing something special in Adam and asking him to tour with them. Touring the world with B & R has given Adam financial security, raised his profile and added to his credibility. |
| Liliane 11.01.2018 02:07 |
Also, my apologies for the three posts, i don't know how to edit my posts. Just wanted to say congrats to Queen on getting the lifetime achievement award from the Grammy's. Way overdue! |
| thomasquinn 32989 11.01.2018 06:39 |
QueenTwo wrote: Ed Sheeran and or Sam Smith and alike are pretty talented singer songwriters and they're making good music which the public want to listen to.I'd just like to point out here that Ed Sheeran is a serial plagiarist who copies parts of existing songs note-for-note AND word-for-word time and again, and expects to get away with it. |
| Sealion 13.01.2018 12:45 |
I see it, that Lambert is doing fine in album sales for this age, where streaming has taken over. Sure, others sell more. I just checked Wikipedia though and found it interesting, that he seems to have the least success in the UK (looking only at singles). From my knowledge, he had at least one top ten hit in many European countries (Germany, Netherlands, Austria, Sweden are mentioned) and all of his latest releases are doing really great in some small European countries (Poland, Czechia and especially Finnland). Plus he‘s pretty successful in Australia and New Zealand. Maybe the UK will find and warm-up to him after all his touring with Queen now? And if not, I think there are a lot of artists, who would be more than greatful to have a solo-career as successful as Mr. Lambert‘s. He‘s fine. (And would also be able to work successfully on Broadway anytime he wanted it.) |
| Sealion 13.01.2018 13:11 |
As for the single of „Two Fux“: I was of the impression, that it wasn’t even released to radio, because of its language. It was only played with Queen in NA and released online. So, I‘m very surprised, that it was as successful at it was in these little European countries. It seems the glamberts there love to stream their idol‘s songs. |
| bucsateflon 15.01.2018 09:32 |
Is he a composer, can he write music? |
| Chopin1995 15.01.2018 09:38 |
^I'm not sure Poland is a small European country. It is bigger than UK and Italy, 4 times bigger than Austria and Czech Republic, 7.5 times bigger than Netherlands, 160351 times bigger than Monaco, and 710647 times bigger than Vatican. Remember - The bigger the better, in everything! Please do not mention Russia :) |
| thomasquinn 32989 15.01.2018 18:15 |
Chopin1995 wrote: Remember - The bigger the better, in everything!You do realize someone is going to quote that right back at you when you get a kidney stone someday, right? |
| Sealion 15.01.2018 20:09 |
Ok, then Mr. Lambert is really successful in a big European country ??. Actually, Poland isn’t small, but it is considered a small country by ITunes and other streaming statistics. Just to clarify. |
| Chopin1995 15.01.2018 21:56 |
thomasquinn 32989 wrote:I was trying to quote someone much more famous than me to make my statement more powerful.Chopin1995 wrote: Remember - The bigger the better, in everything!You do realize someone is going to quote that right back at you when you get a kidney stone someday, right? Using bootleg terminology, my quote was a 2nd Gen. copy and very lossy one. |
| Chopin1995 15.01.2018 22:10 |
Sealion wrote: Ok, then Mr. Lambert is really successful in a big European country ??. Actually, Poland isn’t small, but it is considered a small country by ITunes and other streaming statistics. Just to clarify.Thanks for this info. I didn't know that. Lambert is well known in Poland. At least 3 songs of him are (or were) played on radio here. I don't know his music so I'm not sure exactly how many. Also he made a guest appearance on The Voice Of Poland one or two times. |
| Negative Creep 15.01.2018 22:59 |
I'm not aware of Lambert have any presence in the UK. His involvement with "Queen+" must have surely got him some attention outside of the US, but not sure how many of a fanbase shift could ever occur apart from those strange older women who get obsessed with gay celebs and singers (what IS that about?). He is a mediocre singer with a voice that most people wouldn't like, with no memorable songs, whose career is based off TV exposure in the US and then with Brian/Roger who themselves were involved in said TV show. Simple as that. I'm sure he's having fun though and raking it in. As a side note and response to someone earlier - Poland isn't bigger than the UK in terms of population. Although I suppose, at least half of the population IS currently in the UK. OOF! |
| Star* 16.01.2018 08:37 |
To be honest Adam Lambert is nothing but a mediocre singer, he contributes nothing but a west end musical singing voice to Queen, which is cheap and nothing special. Michael Ball would sound exactly the same as Lambert if he was fronting Queen. May & Taylor have destroyed Queen now through there greed for getting back on the road. Before anyone says oh but have you seen Adam live, he is great, well i have see him on tv and to be honest i am so embarrassed that he joined Queen as he makes Queen look like a huge joke. |
| Liliane 16.01.2018 17:39 |
"Adam Lambert is nothing but a mediocre singer", you've just lost your credibility right there. Adam's voice might be too Broadway, too high, too clean...not your cup of tea...all those are personal opinions and feelings and are fine but to call him a mediocre singer is just plain ignorant. And the huge joke you are talking about has been together for 6 years now and selling out worldwide. QAL has also garnered pretty much unanimous praise by critics and concertgoers this time around. But of course, someone who has not even seen the shows live think they know better. Whatever. |
| RS_Protos 16.01.2018 19:39 |
I would say les than mediocre singer.............. Oh boy, been together for 6 years and they have created all this new material, such talent......................please |
| Liliane 16.01.2018 22:38 |
What does creating new songs have anything to do with Adam's talent as a singer? Or do you simply not know the difference between a singer and a songwriter? I will concede on one point though, if QAL wants to be taken seriously as a band, then they should write new material. Otherwise, they will pretty much remain more of a nostalgic act. This is a decision B & R & Adam have to make,l. At this point in their career, they might not want to anymore and it is unfortunate. I'd really like to hear what a QAL album will sound like. |
| flash00. 17.01.2018 20:14 |
I think possibly Brian and roger are unsure about making music with Adam in case it may taint their legacy as a whole I.e with Freddie and John, I don't think The Cosmos Rocks was much of a big success it might as well been a Paul Rogers album as there was nothing on that album that was Queen I did like the album for what its worth, I think if they did an album with AL it would be more pop than rock due to AL not having a rock voice etc. Whatever Queen keep saying about it not being about the money I'm not convinced in the slightest it guts me saying it but like others have said they are nothing more than a tribute act being fronted by a drag queen singing pop music. |
| rockchic65 17.01.2018 22:09 |
Happystar Don't care if you like Adam or not but I would argue with the Michael Ball comment. I've seen QAL live and watched loads of videos and never once have I heard Adam sing like this. link |
| mike hunt 17.01.2018 22:16 |
The kid could sing...no debating that, but he's not a rock singer. Dragon Attack, Stoned Cold Crazy sound weak as hell by Rock standards. Most Rockers are polite when they say they like Queen/Lambert as a rock band. Halford, Henry Rollins, even slayer said the kid could sing....but It's missing something, oh yea Freddie Mercury's Raspy voice. Read between the lines what Kerry king meant. He meant a proper Rock singer. A good tribute act is Queen + anything. Just like The Who. ....over time people will only remember Queen songs. Rodgers, Lambert will be forgotten. Obviously Rodgers is a legend, but he'll be remembered for his work with Free and Bad Company. Saying that....Just enjoy the music, don't take it so serious. Brian and Roger are at the end. |