| mooghead 22.01.2017 02:46 |
I got my scales out and surprisingly the heaviest Queen song is Lily of the Valley weighing in at a hefty 7.3 metric tonnes! |
| Oscar J 22.01.2017 03:51 |
Interesting. |
| musicland munich 22.01.2017 04:51 |
mooghead wrote: I got my scales out and surprisingly the heaviest Queen song is Lily of the Valley weighing in at a hefty 7.3 metric tonnes!Yeah ! I was suspicious about that. My balls always hanging much lower after I listened to that song. |
| stevelondon20 22.01.2017 13:10 |
The Hitman, Stone Cold crazy, SHA? |
| Oscar J 22.01.2017 19:58 |
Hitman isn't heavy. They're trying to be heavy, but fail. Actually Innuendo is a lot heavier IMO. |
| mike hunt 22.01.2017 20:13 |
The first album was the heaviest album they did. Great King Rat and Liar, Modern Times. Those were heavy for their time. Queen 2 was more piano melodic stuff, but still had some heavy stuff like orge Battle and the middle section of Father to Son. Sheer Heart Attack was the 2nd heaviest album. Brighton Rock, flick of the Wrist, Stone Cold Crazy, Tenament Funster. Later on It's Late, SHA, Dead On Time. Anything After Jazz was more pop rock. And yea, the hitman fails at being heavy. Please don't bring up Headlong, that's pop rock, Good song as it is. |
| mike hunt 22.01.2017 20:36 |
In 1974 If you named the 5 heaviest bands of that time period would Queen make it? Obviously you had Sabbath, Deep Purple, Zep, The Who were heavy at times. Queen might sneak in there. Priest first album in 74 was more blues rock. |
| musicland munich 22.01.2017 22:59 |
mike hunt wrote: In 1974 If you named the 5 heaviest bands of that time period would Queen make it? Obviously you had Sabbath, Deep Purple, Zep, The Who were heavy at times. Queen might sneak in there. Priest first album in 74 was more blues rock.Well you're on the right track.. The word HARDROCK actually didn't exsist in 74' At least in Germany Queen were called "one of the harder Rock groups" at that point. |
| stevelondon20 23.01.2017 01:57 |
Oscar J wrote: Hitman isn't heavy. They're trying to be heavy, but fail. Actually Innuendo is a lot heavier IMO.I disagree. The Hitman is a heavy song. How can they fail with a great song like that! I agree with you about Innuendo. Heavy in parts, and happens to be my favourite Queen Song! |
| dysan 23.01.2017 03:26 |
Earth probably weighs a lot. |
| Oscar J 23.01.2017 06:45 |
mike hunt wrote: In 1974 If you named the 5 heaviest bands of that time period would Queen make it? Obviously you had Sabbath, Deep Purple, Zep, The Who were heavy at times. Queen might sneak in there. Priest first album in 74 was more blues rock. I think only Black Sabbath could rival them in terms of "heavyness" back then, especially live. |
| Oscar J 23.01.2017 06:51 |
stevelondon20 wrote:Oscar J wrote: Hitman isn't heavy. They're trying to be heavy, but fail. Actually Innuendo is a lot heavier IMO.I disagree. The Hitman is a heavy song. How can they fail with a great song like that! I agree with you about Innuendo. Heavy in parts, and happens to be my favourite Queen Song! Hitman IMO fails to be heavy due to bad production, programmed drums and mediocre songwriting. Innuendo has mystique, dark lyrics, great sounding guitars. Roger thundering away on reverbing drums with a fantastic performance. |
| mike hunt 23.01.2017 06:54 |
Yea, live they were even heavier. A shame only a few remember how heavy they were in those days. |
| thomasquinn 32989 23.01.2017 07:08 |
musicland munich wrote:The word "hard rock" was first used in print in 1959. It was already in common use in the late '60s to describe the rougher-edged electric blues-based psychedelic rock groups as opposed to the folk rock-based ones.mike hunt wrote: In 1974 If you named the 5 heaviest bands of that time period would Queen make it? Obviously you had Sabbath, Deep Purple, Zep, The Who were heavy at times. Queen might sneak in there. Priest first album in 74 was more blues rock.Well you're on the right track.. The word HARDROCK actually didn't exsist in 74' At least in Germany Queen were called "one of the harder Rock groups" at that point. link |
| bootLuca 23.01.2017 07:26 |
Dead on time |
| master marathon runner 23.01.2017 08:05 |
Son & daughter. |
| Thrill Yeti 23.01.2017 08:37 |
Gimme The Prize |
| musicland munich 23.01.2017 09:08 |
thomasquinn 32989 wrote:if that's the case then it wasn't used in relation with Queen or average "harder rock groups"musicland munich wrote:The word "hard rock" was first used in print in 1959. It was already in common use in the late '60s to describe the rougher-edged electric blues-based psychedelic rock groups as opposed to the folk rock-based ones. linkmike hunt wrote: In 1974 If you named the 5 heaviest bands of that time period would Queen make it? Obviously you had Sabbath, Deep Purple, Zep, The Who were heavy at times. Queen might sneak in there. Priest first album in 74 was more blues rock.Well you're on the right track.. The word HARDROCK actually didn't exsist in 74' At least in Germany Queen were called "one of the harder Rock groups" at that point. At least in german articles I couldn't find them called HARDROCK Group( or I don't remember that). But maybe the mainstream didn't get used to it. |
| mike hunt 23.01.2017 09:46 |
master marathon runner wrote: Son & daughter.Especially live |
| mike hunt 23.01.2017 09:56 |
Thrill Yeti wrote: Gimme The PrizeI was listening to The Magic album yesterday and Gimme The Prize is one the better tunes on that album. Funny that AKOM is one of Queens most pop sounding albums, but has the two heaviest songs they did in the 80's. Prize and princes of the universe. People put down 80's Queen a lot here, but all honesty I enjoyed listening to Magic for the time in a few years, though I still skip quit a few songs on there. |
| dysan 23.01.2017 10:08 |
Agreed. I always love listening to that album again after a while. |
| Oscar J 23.01.2017 11:04 |
Hmm. Well, each to their own. The only Queen albums I can listen through are SHA and ANATO, and if I'm in a more charitable mood maybe Queen I and ADATR. The other ones always have at least one dud on them that you have to skip, some of them plenty. I think I would have to skip about six out of the nine tracks on AKOM. |
| master marathon runner 23.01.2017 11:55 |
Wow Oscar. - sure you like Queen?! |
| Oscar J 23.01.2017 12:31 |
Yeah, but only the songs where they make an effort to play well. There's so much other great music that your time is better spent listening to than, say, "Pain Is So Close To Please". I didn't think it was a controversial opinion that much of 80's Queen kinda sucks. :| |
| dysan 23.01.2017 12:50 |
I agree with that too. For such a slight album, there's a lot of filler on in, but that doesn't hinder my enjoyment. The biggest skipper album for me is probably Innuendo (I don't count MIH) probably because I was off Queen by then and full on into Bowie by early 1991 so I never connected to it on an emotional level as I had with all the other albums prior. And the production sucks. |
| stevelondon20 23.01.2017 16:02 |
dysan wrote: I agree with that too. For such a slight album, there's a lot of filler on in, but that doesn't hinder my enjoyment. The biggest skipper album for me is probably Innuendo (I don't count MIH) probably because I was off Queen by then and full on into Bowie by early 1991 so I never connected to it on an emotional level as I had with all the other albums prior. And the production sucks.This is where opinion is such a great thing. Innuendo is a start to finish for me. In my opinion, it's the greatest Queen Album. Probably I'll get slated for it, but I don't give a shit! |
| dysan 23.01.2017 16:16 |
Fair enough. Just like I said, Innuendo is very different for me because I'd bonded and really lived in all the previous ones for so long. By 1991 I'm not even sure I got it on first release so it's always be one that isn't part of my personal Queen journey. |
| AlbaNo1 23.01.2017 16:40 |
Sheer Heart Attack is the one I'd most likely to listen from start to finish. But I've listened to Queen so much a full album listen is a rare occurrence now. |
| mike hunt 23.01.2017 16:46 |
The One thing I noticed with Bands and their fans is that too be a fan of say 70's Queen you have to dislike the 80's. I noticed that with every band I ever liked. I could be on a Rush forum and anything after signals gets labeled as crap. Especially 90's Rush. It's like that with every band. I fall into that category with plenty of bands. Being fan of Iron Maiden growing up I can't stand anything after 1988. So I get it, but for me Queen are a bit different in a sense that even after1978/1980 I could find songs that I love. Magic, the works and The Miracle are hit or miss for me, but I do enjoy enough songs to make it worth it. Who wants to live forever is one of their best songs and it's from the 80's. It's a matter of taste anyway. Read the Amazon reviews for Magic who arn't die hard Queen fans, they heard the album only because of Highlander, and they have a different perspective, the album gets very good reviews because they're not comparing it with Sheer Heart Attack. They're Just hearing some good sounding tunes. As For AKOM I skip friends will be friends, don't lose your head and pain and pleasure, the rest is fine with me. |
| *goodco* 23.01.2017 20:11 |
Is this the reduntant question that comes up every other year, where all fail, and then I respond 'Fat Bottomed Girls'? |
| Michael Scapp 23.01.2017 22:03 |
When I play The Prophet's Song to a noob who has never heard it, they think its the heaviest song they ever heard. |
| matt z 23.01.2017 22:17 |
Michael Scapp wrote: When I play The Prophet's Song to a noob who has never heard it, they think its the heaviest song they ever heard.it IS massive. but. ... even the la la laaaas? |
| cmi 24.01.2017 00:06 |
What about "White Man"...? |
| tomchristie22 24.01.2017 01:34 |
cmi wrote: What about "White Man"...?Comparing White Man to the Prophet's Song, I find White Man is quite a bit weaker in melodic content. There's nothing in White Man that comes close to the strength of the "oh, people of the earth" hook. I think White Man feels heavier because it's fairly unmelodic - it gives it a drier and more grim feel to it. I'd take Prophet's Song any day if I was made to choose. |
| master marathon runner 24.01.2017 01:43 |
Mike Hunt: One of my great personal Queen mysteries - why oh why don't folk like 'Dont Lose Your Head' - love it, always have. |
| bucsateflon 24.01.2017 04:07 |
With the Queen albums of the 80's they reassured their status as a legendary immortal band, the music really transcends time, unlike many of the 70's bands which died in the 80's and never can achieve the "forever relevant" status. Led Zeppelin benefits from the pioneering fact, and the cool image. as The Beatles does too. Rolling Stones achieved this endurance status in the 90's with relevant good albums. |
| Costa86 24.01.2017 05:06 |
^Very good. |
| mike hunt 24.01.2017 08:05 |
master marathon runner wrote: Mike Hunt: One of my great personal Queen mysteries - why oh why don't folk like 'Dont Lose Your Head' - love it, always have.Strong vocals from Freddie, but not much else I like about. It's personal taste, we could never like the same some songs all the time. A lot of people, at least on Queenzone don't like One Year Of Love. I personally like it. |
| mike hunt 24.01.2017 08:12 |
matt z wrote:La laaa is my favorite part, especially with head phones on, or surround sound. Amazing piece of work. Everytime I put this song on for people. Their blown away by the song and the middle section. Those are the big music fans, the fans of typical radio music politely asks me too turn it off, lol.Michael Scapp wrote: When I play The Prophet's Song to a noob who has never heard it, they think its the heaviest song they ever heard.it IS massive. but. ... even the la la laaaas? |
| dysan 24.01.2017 08:36 |
RE Don't Lose Your Head: I loved A Dozen Red Roses on the flip of AKOM 7" - it was such a weird song and really futuristic and mysterious. I was massively disappointed to see it missing from the AKOM album tracklist. When I finally heard the album cut I was mortified. All the mystery gone as it was over normalised. As the album is only 9 tracks, would've been nice to stick it on as a kind of reprise to DLYH or even as an extra magical ingredient. I'd go so far as to say that Forever should've been on the album proper too as final track. Would've brought some symmetry to the record, as much as I dislike Forever and WWTLF. |
| Vocal harmony 24.01.2017 09:03 |
The question of heaviest does not have a straight forward answer. People's perception of heavy differed with what you're listening too. A heavy production (treatment) is not the same as musically heavy, chord voicings and melodic structure can often be heavier than something that sounds feta you because of an over driven or distorted guitar sound. Wagner wrote some incredibly heavy pieces of music. As for the subject and an answer. . . I'm undecided however all the posts so far could be contenders! |
| Oscar J 24.01.2017 09:46 |
dysan wrote: ... as much as I dislike Forever and WWTLF. Oh? Care to elaborate? WWTLF is one of like three songs I actually like on that album (the other ones being POTU and One Vision). |
| dysan 24.01.2017 13:43 |
It's just a bit dreary and obvious. I know a few people have said it, but Adam Lambert doing it live is amazing and theatrical which I think the Queen version isn't. Perhaps mid 80s production values didn't do justice to the rock ballad format? |
| goose44 25.01.2017 14:35 |
The hitman Not heavy? Incorrect. Iplayed that years ago to guys who like death metal and alt rock and they were surprised Queen played "heavy metal" especially that late in their career. If you blast songs of theirs I think the hardest and loudest you can hear is Liar. |
| mike hunt 26.01.2017 08:32 |
Hitman is Heavy, I give you that, but it's not a good song IMO. |
| Rubbersuit 28.01.2017 15:27 |
master marathon runner wrote: Son & daughter.I agree. That's my pick too. |
| mooghead 29.01.2017 14:00 |
It's amazing that my (admittedly crap) attempt at humour in the opening post has resulted in a 3 page discussion :-) |
| mike hunt 31.01.2017 17:48 |
The average Rock fan don't really know how heavy Queen were at times, That's why I like this thread. I like playing Great King Rat to people who only know the hits. That song reminds me of Maiden before Maiden exsited, Orge Battle with those halford style screams before Priest were doing it. |
| noorie 03.02.2017 16:20 |
mooghead wrote: I got my scales out and surprisingly the heaviest Queen song is Lily of the Valley weighing in at a hefty 7.3 metric tonnes!Actually Moog, Nevermore comes in slightly heavier at 7.4! Check for yourself. (I have a ton of time to waste today, and nothing better to do.) |
| Holly2003 03.02.2017 17:32 |
Brighton Rock, Son & Daughter, Father to Son, It's Late, Soul Brother, See What A Fool I've Been all very heavy. Prob Brighton Rock shades it for me. |
| motorhead 11.02.2017 19:38 |
Dead On Time is the heaviest IMO |
| waunakonor 18.02.2017 17:00 |
dysan wrote: It's just a bit dreary and obvious. I know a few people have said it, but Adam Lambert doing it live is amazing and theatrical which I think the Queen version isn't. Perhaps mid 80s production values didn't do justice to the rock ballad format? |
| waunakonor 18.02.2017 17:00 |
For single heaviest song I'd have to go with Father to Son. That solo section just crushes.
dysan wrote: Earth probably weighs a lot.Great band, and they can be really heavy. mike hunt wrote: Being fan of Iron Maiden growing up I can't stand anything after 1988.Every Maiden album released since 2000 is better than most of their albums in the '80s. Fight me. Also while '80s Queen does have a lot of stuff to like as a whole it's just so much worse than their '70s output. '80s Queen doesn't "suck" necessarily but they're not all that great overall. Innuendo and Made in Heaven, on the other hand, are great. mooghead wrote: It's amazing that my (admittedly crap) attempt at humour in the opening post has resulted in a 3 page discussion :-)Not that surprising. There's much else to talk about these days. |
| mike hunt 18.02.2017 18:35 |
We have to disagree on Maiden, i tried liking the new Stuff 2000 to the new album, but it's not happening for me. All their new stuff sounds the same, those long boring intros. Lacks energy as well. Then put on Killers, heavy and raw with that youthful energy. I do agree on Queen, I like Innuendo and Made In Heaven better than their 80's stuff. |