raucousmonster 05.10.2016 17:10 |
Second post in a row but hey, when you're on a roll... Going through the singles discography I've just noticed that Queen have had at least one single reach the top spot in the UK charts in the 70's (Bo Rap), the 80's, (UP) the 90's (Innuendo) and the noughties (WWRY - albeit with crappy boyband 5ive). The UK press used to make a fuss over how Cliff Richard was the only artist to have had a number one hit in five consecutive decades (50's-90's) yet Queen have managed this in four decades. There can't be too many other performers out there who have achieved this - can you think of any? |
AlbaNo1 06.10.2016 02:07 |
Nope but it's a bit of a technicality...Queen is a 70s and 80 s band .Under Pressure and Innuendo were early in their respective decades and I wouldn't count Five. |
cmsdrums 06.10.2016 04:18 |
Roger beats that - he was on the Band Aid single in the '10s too so has 5 decades. |
cmsdrums 06.10.2016 08:26 |
....which must kill Brian as he has DESPERATELY tried to reach this milestone with releases with Dappy, Cliff Richard/Brian Bennett and others, and only managed no 2 I believe! |
Sebastian 06.10.2016 09:13 |
Well, Brian's far more famous than Rog, probably has more money, has written more unforgettable songs, has covered more disciplines than Rog once we count his forays into astronomy, stereo photography and animal activism, and routinely ranks higher on 'best guitarists' polls than Rog on 'best drummers' ones. He's also written books and gained a far larger following as a composer and producer. Roger's only victories against Brian are: - He's been part of No 1 hit singles in five decades, as opposed to four. - He's got a far better memory. |
Costa86 06.10.2016 10:10 |
^According to The Sunday Times Music Rich List, 2016, Brian is the 18th richest musician in the UK, worth £120 million. Roger is at number 20, worth £115 million. Last, but not least, is John, the 25th richest British musician, worth £100 million (just £5 million short of Jimmy Page - not bad for a retiree). So Brian's extra effort, etc., has netted him £20 million over what John's "sitting on the couch for the past 20 or so years" has brought him. I'm not sure how these things are calculated by The Sunday Times, but it's a decently reputable list. I'd be curious to know how much Freddie's estate is worth. At least as much as John's, but probably closer to Brian's, I'd imagine - unless Mary Austin has a proclivity for spending millions. I'm sure she's been thankful many times for happening upon a colourful looking Persian in London back in the 1970s (all thanks to Brian). The Bath Chronicle reproduced the list here: link. |
cmsdrums 06.10.2016 10:48 |
Sebastian wrote: Well, Brian's far more famous than Rog, probably has more money, has written more unforgettable songs, has covered more disciplines than Rog once we count his forays into astronomy, stereo photography and animal activism, and routinely ranks higher on 'best guitarists' polls than Rog on 'best drummers' ones. He's also written books and gained a far larger following as a composer and producer. Roger's only victories against Brian are: - He's been part of No 1 hit singles in five decades, as opposed to four. - He's got a far better memory."ONLY" victories? Have you not seen Debbie and Sarina?!! :-) My original point was made light heartedly, but Brian has (I believe from memory on his Soapbox) made appeals to get these tracks to no 1: I really recall something with the Cliff one and his disappointed that it stalled, and with reference to the Dappy single he said: "Well, ya better all go out and buy ROCKSTAR tomorrow !!! (or stay in and hit iTunes!) Because this is the closest battle I've ever seen for the number one spot !" That's not a decisive 'begging' but I do recall some real diasappointment in other things I read around the time of some of these 'random' singles! |
The Real Wizard 06.10.2016 10:49 |
Sebastian wrote: Well, Brian's far more famous than Rog, probably has more money, has written more unforgettable songs, has covered more disciplines than Rog once we count his forays into astronomy, stereo photography and animal activism, and routinely ranks higher on 'best guitarists' polls than Rog on 'best drummers' ones. He's also written books and gained a far larger following as a composer and producer. Roger's only victories against Brian are: - He's been part of No 1 hit singles in five decades, as opposed to four. - He's got a far better memory.And most importantly, he shagged way more chicks in the 70s. |
oligneisti 06.10.2016 13:22 |
The Real Wizard wrote: And most importantly, he shagged way more chicks in the 70s.I'm gonna guess he's the winner in that contest for six decades. |
AlbaNo1 06.10.2016 14:43 |
Rogers main "victory" is that he wrote and released records of music he liked in the full knowledge they wouldn't be commercial successes. Brian s solo stuff, bar Starfleet project and Furia, were certainly designed to be top ten albums . When he realised success couldn't be be sustained at that level he stopped. |
AlbaNo1 06.10.2016 14:44 |
The Real Wizard wrote:I wonder how the stats of Queenzoners would stack up in that regard....Sebastian wrote: Well, Brian's far more famous than Rog, probably has more money, has written more unforgettable songs, has covered more disciplines than Rog once we count his forays into astronomy, stereo photography and animal activism, and routinely ranks higher on 'best guitarists' polls than Rog on 'best drummers' ones. He's also written books and gained a far larger following as a composer and producer. Roger's only victories against Brian are: - He's been part of No 1 hit singles in five decades, as opposed to four. - He's got a far better memory.And most importantly, he shagged way more chicks in the 70s. |
Sebastian 06.10.2016 16:28 |
In my particular case, it's been over two and a half years (soon to be three) with no action at all. |
Costa86 06.10.2016 17:08 |
It's all a question of how low you let your standards go. Someone with no standards can sleep with easy and somewhat not-too-good-looking women a few times a year, even if he makes no effort. If you have standards, and you want to have a quality woman, then it's not always easy. Anyway, my 68 year old aunt recently told me: life's not a race, it's about living it (I was complaining to her about being almost 30 and not yet married, etc.). And that's a simple thing to say, but it's so true. We live it, we do what we can with it. Sleeping with 100 women a year or sleeping with 1 woman a decade doesn't mean anything. We're all going through this life and doing what we can. In 40-70 years, all of us will be gone. In the end, all we leave behind is the effect we had on people, and the care we gave. Not two fucks will be given about how many people we fucked. |
Sebastian 06.10.2016 17:13 |
Yeah, and it also applies to being part of a No 1 single in 4 or 5 decades (or two, or none...) or being No 18 or No 20 (or none) on the list of Britain's wealthiest musicians :) |
Costa86 06.10.2016 17:14 |
^Yes, that tends to have "an effect" on women. Although I think Brian is lucky to have Anita, who I don't think really went for Brian for those things. |
Costa86 06.10.2016 17:19 |
Oh shit, I said "I don't think". moog will be bothered with me, because "how the fuck do I know what Anita went for?". |
Oscar J 06.10.2016 18:11 |
Costa86 wrote: In 40-70 years, all of us will be gone. In the end, all we leave behind is the effect we had on people, and the care we gave. Not two fucks will be given about how many people we fucked. Or at least that's what people who never get laid will have you believe. Sorry, had to. |
Costa86 06.10.2016 18:55 |
Oscar J wrote:Is it too late now to say sorry?Costa86 wrote: In 40-70 years, all of us will be gone. In the end, all we leave behind is the effect we had on people, and the care we gave. Not two fucks will be given about how many people we fucked.Or at least that's what people who never get laid will have you believe. Sorry, had to. Cause I'm missing more than just your body Is it too late now to say sorry? Yeah I know that I let you down Is it too late to say that I'm sorry now? I'm actually going to see this fucking guy on Wednesday in London. GF pulled me by the collar. |
Sebastian 06.10.2016 19:54 |
He was Freddie's favourite Canadian, even above Fred Mandel and Jobby. |
The Real Wizard 07.10.2016 00:02 |
AlbaNo1 wrote: Rogers main "victory" is that he wrote and released records of music he liked in the full knowledge they wouldn't be commercial successes. Brian s solo stuff, bar Starfleet project and Furia, were certainly designed to be top ten albums . When he realised success couldn't be be sustained at that level he stopped.Or maybe Cozy Powell died and Brian rekindled his relationship with Roger Taylor, instead of your far-fetched and demeaning theory... |
The Real Wizard 07.10.2016 00:04 |
AlbaNo1 wrote:Says a guy whose presence here is little more than being a troll.The Real Wizard wrote:I wonder how the stats of Queenzoners would stack up in that regard....Sebastian wrote: Well, Brian's far more famous than Rog, probably has more money, has written more unforgettable songs, has covered more disciplines than Rog once we count his forays into astronomy, stereo photography and animal activism, and routinely ranks higher on 'best guitarists' polls than Rog on 'best drummers' ones. He's also written books and gained a far larger following as a composer and producer. Roger's only victories against Brian are: - He's been part of No 1 hit singles in five decades, as opposed to four. - He's got a far better memory.And most importantly, he shagged way more chicks in the 70s. Carry on... |
Sebastian 07.10.2016 08:33 |
The Real Wizard wrote: Or maybe Cozy Powell died and Brian rekindled his relationship with Roger Taylor, instead of your far-fetched and demeaning theory...He had rekindled his relationship with Rog while Cozy was still alive, and he still toured and made a further album after Cozy's untimely passing. |
AlbaNo1 07.10.2016 08:41 |
The Real Wizard wrote:Im pretty sure Brian almost said as much himself after the Cosmos Rock s sales figures . He wants to record music that has impact or not at all.AlbaNo1 wrote: Rogers main "victory" is that he wrote and released records of music he liked in the full knowledge they wouldn't be commercial successes. Brian s solo stuff, bar Starfleet project and Furia, were certainly designed to be top ten albums . When he realised success couldn't be be sustained at that level he stopped.Or maybe Cozy Powell died and Brian rekindled his relationship with Roger Taylor, instead of your far-fetched and demeaning theory... Roger in his solo music is moreso doing so for his own pleasure. Is that OK for me to think that Brian is more musically commercially orientated ? Or should it go to a public vote? |
The Real Wizard 07.10.2016 14:12 |
AlbaNo1 wrote:I'd venture to say he was less commercially minded in the 90s.The Real Wizard wrote:Im pretty sure Brian almost said as much himself after the Cosmos Rock s sales figures . He wants to record music that has impact or not at all. Roger in his solo music is moreso doing so for his own pleasure. Is that OK for me to think that Brian is more musically commercially orientated ? Or should it go to a public vote?AlbaNo1 wrote: Rogers main "victory" is that he wrote and released records of music he liked in the full knowledge they wouldn't be commercial successes. Brian s solo stuff, bar Starfleet project and Furia, were certainly designed to be top ten albums . When he realised success couldn't be be sustained at that level he stopped.Or maybe Cozy Powell died and Brian rekindled his relationship with Roger Taylor, instead of your far-fetched and demeaning theory... |
The Real Wizard 07.10.2016 14:21 |
Sebastian wrote:Between 96-98 they recorded one song and played one gig. The more regular one-offs and Queen+ stuff started in 99.The Real Wizard wrote: Or maybe Cozy Powell died and Brian rekindled his relationship with Roger Taylor, instead of your far-fetched and demeaning theory...He had rekindled his relationship with Rog while Cozy was still alive, and he still toured and made a further album after Cozy's untimely passing. But fair point about Furia - which certainly questions the argument that Brian was all about sales in that period. |
AlbaNo1 07.10.2016 14:51 |
Yes I mentioned Furia to present a balanced argument. I think Brian also composed and played music for Macbeth . But his solo albums had elements of structure that emulated Queen albums. I think he was aiming for a reasonable fraction,say a quarter, of Queens regular album buyers. This didn't happen and after this most of what he has done has been on the back of the Queen name. |
Sebastian 08.10.2016 07:46 |
AlbaNo1 wrote: I think Brian also composed and played music for MacbethBut that was in 1990. Fred was still alive. |
mike hunt 08.10.2016 14:42 |
Sebastian wrote: Well, Brian's far more famous than Rog, probably has more money, has written more unforgettable songs, has covered more disciplines than Rog once we count his forays into astronomy, stereo photography and animal activism, and routinely ranks higher on 'best guitarists' polls than Rog on 'best drummers' ones. He's also written books and gained a far larger following as a composer and producer. Roger's only victories against Brian are: - He's been part of No 1 hit singles in five decades, as opposed to four. - He's got a far better memory.And it's Not even close! I like Roger, he's a very good drummer, wrote some good solid songs. He also had a good voice, but Brian May easily had a bigger impact In the music world. He was a better songwiter by far. He also had a bigger influence as a guitarist than Roger had as a Drummer. |