| fr1986 13.03.2016 17:55 |
The ohter day the user ChinWonder had a question regarding a bit of footage from Knebworth, i think the question was, where did it come from? Well, seeing this and seeing that The knebworth footage is very limited and separated on different documentaries i decided to make a video with every single snippet of pro-shot footage available. I think i got it(almost) all covered. I uploaded it to YT. The quality is very poor, but it is mainly to have an idea of all the material there is regarding this concert. link Footage taken from the following sources -The Freddie Mercury tribute concert DVD 2 (2002 release) -The final Tour (from the 2011 Wembley DVD) -A Magic year (from the 2012 hungarian rhapsody Blu Ray) -Champions of the world Documentary -Rare Live -The Magic Years Vol. 3 -DoRo 1995 unreleased Freddie Mercury documentary |
| Chinwonder2 13.03.2016 19:12 |
Thanks! This is cool. Didn't know that much existed! it would be awesome if you said where the footage comes from, I know some comes from Rare Live and various other documentaries. :) -Chin |
| Negative Creep 13.03.2016 19:22 |
There's no way the backstage footage being shown on the big screen above the stage isn't from the same camera footage that it shown prior to that shot. It was always fairly obvious that the "big screen" footage existed, I think that confirms they do indeed have it in their archives.... I mean Brian even confirmed that, then backtracked at some point. |
| fr1986 13.03.2016 20:37 |
Chinwonder wrote: Thanks! This is cool. Didn't know that much existed! it would be awesome if you said where the footage comes from, I know some comes from Rare Live and various other documentaries. :) -ChinJust added your request on the Description : ) |
| Killer_queenIII 14.03.2016 04:36 |
I just realized how clear some of the footages are, especially around the 4:30-5:00 timer where it shows Freddie. I'm amazed those even existed in such quality. They remind me of Hungarian Rhapsody a bit. Thanks a bunch for compiling these clips! |
| on my way up 14.03.2016 06:42 |
Negative Creep wrote: There's no way the backstage footage being shown on the big screen above the stage isn't from the same camera footage that it shown prior to that shot. It was always fairly obvious that the "big screen" footage existed, I think that confirms they do indeed have it in their archives.... I mean Brian even confirmed that, then backtracked at some point.If they one day decide to release the big screen footage, they will - most probably - say how it was believed to have not been recorded but after about 30 years they somehow magically found out it was indeed recorded! And they found the actual tape!! :-) :-) :-) The Hammy'75 multi track was also believed to have been wiped.... And that one was found! Hopefully the same will happen with the Hammy'79 multitrack !!! |
| on my way up 14.03.2016 06:42 |
Oh, great compilation. Well done! |
| emrabt 14.03.2016 07:55 |
[quote]There's no way the backstage footage being shown on the big screen above the stage isn't from the same camera footage that it shown prior to that shot.[/quote] You mean apart from the fact that the Doro Footage is shot from the Side and back and the Screen footage is shot from the front, evident from the placement of the man in the yellow shirt. Let's iognor this and pretend it's identical. |
| rhapsody8 14.03.2016 08:07 |
Thank you very much... This historic concert MUST be released one day. It doesn't matter it is from f..cking big screen or not. Release what you have in the archives and please stop lying about "forgotten recording" nonsense. Greg Brooks said one time they have big screen footage... |
| dive2063 14.03.2016 09:54 |
rhapsody8 wrote: Greg Brooks said one time they have big screen footage...Yes, indeed. I think all existing footage, even incomplete, accompanied with the full audio, will be a true gift for the fans |
| on my way up 14.03.2016 14:00 |
emrabt wrote: [quote]There's no way the backstage footage being shown on the big screen above the stage isn't from the same camera footage that it shown prior to that shot.[/quote] You mean apart from the fact that the Doro Footage is shot from the Side and back and the Screen footage is shot from the front, evident from the placement of the man in the yellow shirt. Let's iognor this and pretend it's identical.The backstage footage being shown on the big screen remains the most intriguing bit... Two camera crews and still the show wasn't filmed... Incredible! |
| guild93 14.03.2016 20:01 |
Interesting, has anyone checked which song is being played from 4:40 - 4:55? (by comparing to the screen shot) |
| Doga 14.03.2016 21:40 |
Bohemian Rhapsody & Hammer to Fall. It was filmed by the DoRo crew, but standing near a camera used in the big screen, as both angles are "near" identical. |
| The Real Wizard 14.03.2016 23:28 |
Doga wrote: Bohemian Rhapsody & Hammer to Fall. It was filmed by the DoRo crew, but standing near a camera used in the big screen, as both angles are "near" identical.The footage is identical to what was on the screen - it's the same source. I've seen a version where it's mixed into the screen footage, and it's a seamless transition. The footage exists. It's just a matter of how much they have. |
| emrabt 15.03.2016 06:47 |
[quote]The footage is identical to what was on the screen - it's the same source. [/quote] But It isn't. It's really not from the screen feed. There are two bits, including the "Thank you you've been a wonderful audience" part that are really close, but they are not. If you get the two videos side by side, in the screen footage, roger is almost fully aligned with freddy when he bows his head, in the Pro shot he's JUST at his cape. Then when john is inline with freddie in the Screen footage Roger has disapeared off screen, While you can still see roger in the pro footage, There is a point where all three overlap in the pro footage because the angle isn't the same. You are thinking of pittrek's video, the reasonit matches is becuase only freddie is on screen at the switch, a few frames later and it wouldn't match up. |
| emrabt 15.03.2016 07:00 |
link The screen footage has Roger out of shot just as John comes into frame, the Pro shot footage has them on screen enough to overlap Freddie. And the pro shot is a wider view too. It's amazing, totally unlikely and unbelievable but true, two cameras. |
| Jake12 15.03.2016 10:51 |
Absolutely right about this! I always thought it was the same camera but it isn't the Doro camera is literally right next to the big screen camera! Made a quick comparison video: link |
| BETA215 15.03.2016 11:35 |
^ You can also recognize it's a different cam given that the Queen one zooms earlier and cut that triangle thing at the border, while the DoRo footage makes a zoom a little later, cutting the triangle in a different way and later. |
| Jake12 15.03.2016 12:17 |
BETA215 wrote: ^ You can also recognize it's a different cam given that the Queen one zooms earlier and cut that triangle thing at the border, while the DoRo footage makes a zoom a little later, cutting the triangle in a different way and later.Exactly |
| Chinwonder2 15.03.2016 12:28 |
Hey fr1986, could you maybe upload the original file before it was uploaded to YouTube? :) -Chin |
| The Real Wizard 15.03.2016 12:54 |
Yup, I concede. Great detective work, guys. |
| emrabt 15.03.2016 13:00 |
Obviously I might have missed some snippets here and there, but I went through pretty much the whole of Knebworth a few years ago, I'm sure no pro stuff that's currently available matches the screen. That's not to say it doesn't exist, but nothing of what we have seen is from the screen. I'm an obsessive saddo in my own way. My money is on something very close to this regarding placement: http://www.queenlive.ca/queen/live%20pics/86-08-09_Knebworth_25.jpg I can't find one proving they were both there when queen were playing, But that's Quo, same day, place time and crew, it proves both the Doro and the Screen cameras were about at the left side of the stage. EDIT: link Look at the left side of the stage. You can just about see Both of them and later on the the night too. |
| Planetgurl 15.03.2016 14:07 |
There was a professional camera on a tripod pointing at the stage from the guest enclosure too. Whether that was filming the entire evening I don't know but it was there that afternoon with no one by it - I remember that... It was up against the first fence (there were two, an inner and an outer one with struts in between them holding each apart. |
| Doga 17.03.2016 12:15 |
The question is... over the last 30 years, there is any video or documentary showing even a couple of seconds of the big screen feed? If i'm not mistaken, to date, the only pro-footage we have seen of Knebworth comes from the DoRo crew and TV news. Is not something definitive of course, i'm thinking in how the footage from Wembley first night was kept in darkness till the first release of Wembley in DVD. |
| Biggus Dickus 17.03.2016 13:21 |
Doga wrote: The question is... over the last 30 years, there is any video or documentary showing even a couple of seconds of the big screen feed? If i'm not mistaken, to date, the only pro-footage we have see of Knebworth comes from the DoRo crew and TV news. Is not something definitive of course, i'm thinking in how the footage from Wembley first night was kept in darkness till the first release of Wembley in DVD.Wasn't the friday gig of Wembley only released on the 25th anniversary edition? My old Wembley DVD doesn't have that gig. Looking at the friday show it's pretty apparent it was initially considered as a rehearsal for the saturday show, as far as filming is concerned. There's less cameras rolling and some of the filming and camera-angles are a bit dodgy. Musically I think the friday gig shadows the saturday one though. |
| Chinwonder2 17.03.2016 13:42 |
Biggus Dickus wrote:Doga wrote: The question is... over the last 30 years, there is any video or documentary showing even a couple of seconds of the big screen feed? If i'm not mistaken, to date, the only pro-footage we have see of Knebworth comes from the DoRo crew and TV news. Is not something definitive of course, i'm thinking in how the footage from Wembley first night was kept in darkness till the first release of Wembley in DVD.Wasn't the friday gig of Wembley only released on the 25th anniversary edition? My old Wembley DVD doesn't have that gig. Looking at the friday show it's pretty apparent it was initially considered as a rehearsal for the saturday show, as far as filming is concerned. There's less cameras rolling and some of the filming and camera-angles are a bit dodgy. Musically I think the friday gig shadows the saturday one though. On the 2003 Bonus Disc, there was A Kind Of Magic, Vocal Improv with audience, Another One Bites The Dust, Tutti Frutti, Crazy Little Thing Called Love, God Save The Queen. :) -Chin |
| Biggus Dickus 17.03.2016 14:13 |
Chinwonder wrote:Ah yes, you're right. I had forgotten those bonus tracks.Biggus Dickus wrote:On the 2003 Bonus Disc, there was A Kind Of Magic, Vocal Improv with audience, Another One Bites The Dust, Tutti Frutti, Crazy Little Thing Called Love, God Save The Queen. :) -ChinDoga wrote: The question is... over the last 30 years, there is any video or documentary showing even a couple of seconds of the big screen feed? If i'm not mistaken, to date, the only pro-footage we have see of Knebworth comes from the DoRo crew and TV news. Is not something definitive of course, i'm thinking in how the footage from Wembley first night was kept in darkness till the first release of Wembley in DVD.Wasn't the friday gig of Wembley only released on the 25th anniversary edition? My old Wembley DVD doesn't have that gig. Looking at the friday show it's pretty apparent it was initially considered as a rehearsal for the saturday show, as far as filming is concerned. There's less cameras rolling and some of the filming and camera-angles are a bit dodgy. Musically I think the friday gig shadows the saturday one though. |
| on my way up 18.03.2016 11:26 |
For the first time in years I listened to the complete show. It's probably my favourite magic tour show. It has both the great playing and a crazy audience. It would be a stunning live album. And any footage from that day is a lovely bonus. |
| DepeX 16.04.2016 12:18 |
fr186, please check your PM inbox, I've just sent you one ;-) |
