QueenZone discussion #1445779

mooghead wrote: "Any thoughts?" Is this what occupies your brain?

pittrek wrote: Interesting, did anybody record the concert broadcast too ?

que.123 wrote:

pittrek wrote: Interesting, did anybody record the concert broadcast too ?

Pittrek, I recorded the concert in standard definition PAL 720x576 interlaced (I have not migrated to HD/Blu-ray yet). I recorded it from a Sky digital broadcast to a Panasonic DVD recorder set to XP (best quality). I recorded the first watermark free broadcast, as I mentioned in another thread "BBC4 have just repeated the concert and this time it has the BBC FOUR logo in the top left corner, the first showing was logo free?" As Barry is discussing in the post above I'm not sure if my recording is "the real deal" or a PAL > NTSC > PAL conversion?

kevin79 wrote: First, there are various versions of 1080 HD. First, there is 1080p. The p stands for progressive. What that means is that all 1080 lines of your picture are refreshing at the same time. This format tends to run at 24fps (frames per second), the amount of frames of traditional film that run per second. This format is a universal standard throughout the world. So, if you buy a Blu Ray title encoded at 1080p, as long as the disc isn't region locked, you should be able to watch it in any country. The latest Queen Blu Ray releases have been in 1080i, the i standing for interlaced. Interlaced video means that only half of your 1080 lines are refreshing at once. And there are two variants to 1080i broadcasts, 60Hz (which tends to be used for NTSC broadcasts) and 50Hz (used most often in PAL broadcasts). While your electronic companies in Europe seem to have adapted the idea of making your DVD and Blu Ray Players compatible with the various formats, the same can't be said for their North American counterparts. Ours tend to stick to 1080p and NTSC standards, meaning we can't easily watch a PAL disc. So, for Queen Productions and Universal, they'll need to do a conversion to the NTSC format for the North American audience. So, as was mentioned earlier, to cut costs, they've only made the NTSC version. Why spend the extra money to make a PAL version when they can just as easily watch the NTSC version too. So, the real issue isn't Queen or Universal. It's the electronics companies in the states still living in the stone age and making it possible for us to see a concert or TV show in the format it was filmed. As for why they don't convert to 1080p, the issue there is that there's about a 4% slow down in doing that conversion. This was actually done when they converted the first few seasons of the reboot of Doctor Who from PAL to 1080p. And while they did use pitch correction to make it less noticeable, that wouldn't' cover up the issue on a music-based release.

pittrek wrote:

que.123 wrote:

pittrek wrote: Interesting, did anybody record the concert broadcast too ?

Pittrek, I recorded the concert in standard definition PAL 720x576 interlaced (I have not migrated to HD/Blu-ray yet). I recorded it from a Sky digital broadcast to a Panasonic DVD recorder set to XP (best quality). I recorded the first watermark free broadcast, as I mentioned in another thread "BBC4 have just repeated the concert and this time it has the BBC FOUR logo in the top left corner, the first showing was logo free?" As Barry is discussing in the post above I'm not sure if my recording is "the real deal" or a PAL > NTSC > PAL conversion?

That's what I'd like to know and that's why I asked :-)

pittrek wrote: I can't agree, the financial reason makes no sense to me. They start with a PAL source. They convert the PAL source to NTSC. Meaning that both PAL and NTSC versions do exist, They don't really have to do another NTSC->PAL conversion. They are probably doing the post-production ("remastering") work on the NTSC conversion, and that's the problem. A problem which could be easily solved by changing the workflow (with exactly the same costs - unless they're working with some non-standard proprietary software which works only with NTSC). And of course the factories manufacturing the discs would of course want more money but that's a different thing... Why spend the extra money to make a PAL version when they can just as easily watch the NTSC version too ? Well, because the NTSC version looks like shit (I am talking about the movement, especially on the Rainbow March footage and the Tokyo footage).

cmsdrums wrote: I recorded one of the BBC4HD showings, and although it was shown on an HD channel, the broadcast was NOT in HD. The audio was also not in multi channel format. I know the gig was shown two or three times in one night but I'm guessing each broadcast was in the same lower quality...?

Toozeup wrote: Also, the rainbow footage was shot on 2" Quad Tape which produces 625 scan lines. This is Greater than PAL SD broadcast & PAL DVD standards. Hence the full master quality can only be reproduced via Blu-Ray or HD Broadcast.

Toozeup wrote: Pal converted to NTSC/60i retains all the PAL information and If done properly there should be no visible difference from the PAL master. The DVD however will lose information. It's best to stick with the Blu-Ray plus you get superior sound too.

queenside wrote: does anybody know if hammersmith '75 box set on amazon.com has a region free blu ray? or maybe it's a1? i'm in a region b2 country so it would be really appreciated if someone can answer me cos i'd like to buy the box set frmo american amazon cos it's the cheapest i've seen so far. link

Barry Durex wrote:

mooghead wrote: "Any thoughts?" Is this what occupies your brain?

No, sometimes I think about punching your face.

dysan wrote: Just watching it on BBC4 now. Looks weird. Also - during Now I'm Here did Roger always stand up during that stop in the drumming? Maybe I missed it for the last 25 years.