QueenZone discussion #1439169

Marknow wrote: Supposedly a live professional webcast of Q+Al at RIR here: https://br.screen.yahoo.com/rock-in-rio/

Ale Solan wrote:

Marknow wrote: Supposedly a live professional webcast of Q+Al at RIR here: https://br.screen.yahoo.com/rock-in-rio/

That's Rock in Rio USA, it doesn't say anything in there about Rock in Rio Brazil...

popy wrote: Yes. At midnight, Rio de Janeiro time.

Raf wrote: If the webcasts are geo-restricted, try YouTube. I remember Rock in Rio 2011 was streamed there. Rock in Rio Las Vegas was streamed here in Brazil as well earlier this year, I THINK it was on YouTube.

Marknow wrote: Another link here: http://www.vertvonline.ninja/variedades.php I won't be on later for the show but hopefully one of these will work. If you get georestricted download Hide My Ip.

Queenman!! wrote: I had different expectations with the song "love of my life" showing footage of Freddie at Wembley 86???!!!! They just don't get it huh.... Wembley at rock in rio. Amateurs!

brunogorski wrote: The band was great, but the audience disappointed me. We in São Paulo, 10.000 guys, made much more noise and sang every single music. Even Stone Cold Crazy was loudly sang. The Rock In Rio audience was a much more generic audience. They knew the top of the Greatest Hits only. You can see that NO ONE is singing Fat Bottomed Girls, for example. At São Paulo the arena almost exploded! Hahahaha

Kayd wrote:

brunogorski wrote: The band was great, but the audience disappointed me. We in São Paulo, 10.000 guys, made much more noise and sang every single music. Even Stone Cold Crazy was loudly sang. The Rock In Rio audience was a much more generic audience. They knew the top of the Greatest Hits only. You can see that NO ONE is singing Fat Bottomed Girls, for example. At São Paulo the arena almost exploded! Hahahaha

On the livestream and TV broadcast, they used the soundboard audio and mixed in some audience noise. Apparently the audience was really, really loud but we did not get to hear that. Look at RGG -- you can see people clapping but you can barely hear it. **** Hard to judge what is going on by seeing a few of the people in the audience. But people who were there say that the audience sang along with every song.

brunogorski wrote:

Kayd wrote:

brunogorski wrote: The band was great, but the audience disappointed me. We in São Paulo, 10.000 guys, made much more noise and sang every single music. Even Stone Cold Crazy was loudly sang. The Rock In Rio audience was a much more generic audience. They knew the top of the Greatest Hits only. You can see that NO ONE is singing Fat Bottomed Girls, for example. At São Paulo the arena almost exploded! Hahahaha

On the livestream and TV broadcast, they used the soundboard audio and mixed in some audience noise. Apparently the audience was really, really loud but we did not get to hear that. Look at RGG -- you can see people clapping but you can barely hear it. **** Hard to judge what is going on by seeing a few of the people in the audience. But people who were there say that the audience sang along with every song.

Sorry, but I disagree. My friend was there and he was just one of the "I only know Bohemian Rhapsody from Queen. The other bands were way better, Queen sucks". Two guys that I know also said that it wasn't nice because no one was interested on the music. That said, I agree that it was a soundboard mix, etcetera. But I also can see things with my eyes. People were clapping on Radio Ga Ga? Nice, one of the Greatest Hits (literally). When the show started, you can SEE when the cameras film the audience and most of them are doing nothing. They're just frozen! So the camera occasionally filmed the people faces, etc. 90 percent were watching the show through the phone, the other 10 percent were looking to stage without singing a thing! Because they DIDNT KNEW the songs! I have no reason to lie, and you can see it watching the show again. Or I can print if you prefer. The point is that today's music in Brazil, looking at the big picture, sucks. And most of the guys that were there last night weren't Queen fans, or even Queen ocasional listeners. That's a fact. And sucks.

Apocalipsis_Darko wrote: The concert was a nightmare...horrible. I think the public took some peyote before the concert or something.

Raf wrote:

brunogorski wrote:

Kayd wrote:

brunogorski wrote: The band was great, but the audience disappointed me. We in São Paulo, 10.000 guys, made much more noise and sang every single music. Even Stone Cold Crazy was loudly sang. The Rock In Rio audience was a much more generic audience. They knew the top of the Greatest Hits only. You can see that NO ONE is singing Fat Bottomed Girls, for example. At São Paulo the arena almost exploded! Hahahaha

On the livestream and TV broadcast, they used the soundboard audio and mixed in some audience noise. Apparently the audience was really, really loud but we did not get to hear that. Look at RGG -- you can see people clapping but you can barely hear it. **** Hard to judge what is going on by seeing a few of the people in the audience. But people who were there say that the audience sang along with every song.

Sorry, but I disagree. My friend was there and he was just one of the "I only know Bohemian Rhapsody from Queen. The other bands were way better, Queen sucks". Two guys that I know also said that it wasn't nice because no one was interested on the music. That said, I agree that it was a soundboard mix, etcetera. But I also can see things with my eyes. People were clapping on Radio Ga Ga? Nice, one of the Greatest Hits (literally). When the show started, you can SEE when the cameras film the audience and most of them are doing nothing. They're just frozen! So the camera occasionally filmed the people faces, etc. 90 percent were watching the show through the phone, the other 10 percent were looking to stage without singing a thing! Because they DIDNT KNEW the songs! I have no reason to lie, and you can see it watching the show again. Or I can print if you prefer. The point is that today's music in Brazil, looking at the big picture, sucks. And most of the guys that were there last night weren't Queen fans, or even Queen ocasional listeners. That's a fact. And sucks.

EDIT: I posted a HUGE text here and it's gone because of some Queenzone bug! :( I won't be bothered to type the whole thing all over again - but thake it from someone who's a great Queen fan and who went there expecting history to be made: it was REALLY intense. The audio mix did make the audience a lot less loud. One of the mics for audience noise was right next to where I was, and trust me, if they didn't balance the volume, everytime Adam went on the B stage you wouldn't hear any music, but instead only lots of intense, beatle-mania alike hysterical screaming. People did sing every song line by line. It probably sounded louder in Sao Paulo simply because it was a smaller, closed venue. I watched QPR in Rio in 2008, it was a closed arena. I also watched Metallica at Rock in Rio in 2011 and Black Sabbath in Sao Paulo in 2013, open air concerts. I guess I don't even have to explain how much wilder Metallica and Black Sabbath audiences were, yet QPR's was more audible as their voices echoed throughout the house, while Metallica's and Black Sabbath's dispersed (and couldn't compete with the MASSIVE audio rig). And yes, there were many fans of the other bands and casual Queen fans. But not as in "there were few actual Queen fans", but rather that we (Queen fans, older people etc) had never heard of the other acts and didn't expect them to even have fans in Brazil, yet there were enough to make themselves heard by the bands. But there were probably as many guys dressed as Freddie Mercury as there were New Republic fans :P Hahaha If you don't wanna take my word for it, then just check Queen's fan page on Facebook and take their page admin's word. Apparently (s)he is touring with the band through South America and was stunned by the audience at Rock in Rio. Or simply check Brian and Adam's reactions to the interactions with the audience. I'm not saying Rock in Rio audience was "better" than Sao Paulo - I actually doubt it was. But it was nowhere near the piece of junk you're trying to paint. It was probably almost as good as Sao Paulo, but "feels" epic because it was huge.

brians wig wrote:

Queenman!! wrote: I had different expectations with the song "love of my life" showing footage of Freddie at Wembley 86???!!!! They just don't get it huh.... Wembley at rock in rio. Amateurs!

I suspect they are limited as to what clean footage of Freddie they actually have. Of course, footage of Freddie from Rio in 85 would have been ideal really.

Viper wrote: Having seen the show only yesterday, I have to say it was not good! One Vision to start the show is a cliché! Then, terrible change from OV to Stone Cold Crazy. Brian left out some guitar solos, like the Save Me guitar solo. Roger is tool old for that! He needs constant support from his son. He doesn's sing backing vocals, he messed up a little bit the lyrics on A Kind Of Magic and he simply doesn't move his body! I don't know what is he doing! Adam forgot the lyrics on One Vision. Don't Stop Me Now and Save Me. By the way, how can You do a Queen show wihout Tie Your Mother Down?! Only a snippet on the guitar solo...!

Enchlore wrote: The LiveXLive mix had a LOT of audience noise. They were definitely singing along. Adam forgot a lot of lyrics but overall he was pretty good. I really liked Roger's vocals on Under Pressure, too. Now, I can't be the only one to be disappointed when Brian played the opening riff to Ogre Battle in the guitar solo and it didn't transition into the full song.

bucsateflon wrote: who care's about that...

Queenman!! wrote:

bucsateflon wrote: who care's about that...

----------------------------------------------------------------- People, like I do, who think a little bit futher about the way Brian, Roger and QP present themselves in the Media. Of course, Qp has to make their own decisions at the end. But it's just not right to say comments like : "Rio 85 was very special for us, the audience siging with 'Love of my Life' really touched us and paved the way for the rest of our shows in South America. Blah, blah , blah. "We look at every show on itself and throw in some suprises as non of the shows are the same"; blah blah blah ..... And when it comes to the result: * wembley 86 footage at 'Rock in Rio'? * same setlist over and over again (with Ghost town as Non Queen track) So I can imagine people see Brian and Roger looked bored during this short American tour. So who cares? : I do!

Raf wrote:

Queenman!! wrote:

bucsateflon wrote: who care's about that...

----------------------------------------------------------------- People, like I do, who think a little bit futher about the way Brian, Roger and QP present themselves in the Media. Of course, Qp has to make their own decisions at the end. But it's just not right to say comments like : "Rio 85 was very special for us, the audience siging with 'Love of my Life' really touched us and paved the way for the rest of our shows in South America. Blah, blah , blah. "We look at every show on itself and throw in some suprises as non of the shows are the same"; blah blah blah ..... And when it comes to the result: * wembley 86 footage at 'Rock in Rio'? * same setlist over and over again (with Ghost town as Non Queen track) So I can imagine people see Brian and Roger looked bored during this short American tour. So who cares? : I do!

Real Queen fans, like us, who follow every concert, dig vídeos on the internet, keep up with setlist changes etc, yes, we do think like you do. But for the South American press and non-diehard admirers, Queen had been "dead" for quite some time now. Many things we take for granted and pretty much expect to see at their concerts were a big novelty. While for us seeing Freddie from Wembley during LOML and Freddie from Montreal on BoRhap, it was all over the news here, everybody talking about how beautiful and moving it was to see Freddie leading a singalong at Rock in Rio once more. I think it's great to see so much positive press coverage about Queen, but I assume this will make them even lazier: they've been doing this for years, sharing vídeos on social networks and yet they're still treated as big news. Why change? People on TV, newspapers and social networks have talked more about Freddie on the screen than about Ghost Town, which was the real news for us fans.

Raf wrote:

Queenman!! wrote:

bucsateflon wrote: who care's about that...

----------------------------------------------------------------- People, like I do, who think a little bit futher about the way Brian, Roger and QP present themselves in the Media. Of course, Qp has to make their own decisions at the end. But it's just not right to say comments like : "Rio 85 was very special for us, the audience siging with 'Love of my Life' really touched us and paved the way for the rest of our shows in South America. Blah, blah , blah. "We look at every show on itself and throw in some suprises as non of the shows are the same"; blah blah blah ..... And when it comes to the result: * wembley 86 footage at 'Rock in Rio'? * same setlist over and over again (with Ghost town as Non Queen track) So I can imagine people see Brian and Roger looked bored during this short American tour. So who cares? : I do!

Real Queen fans, like us, who follow every concert, dig vídeos on the internet, keep up with setlist changes etc, yes, we do think like you do. But for the South American press and non-diehard admirers, Queen had been "dead" for quite some time now. Many things we take for granted and pretty much expect to see at their concerts were a big novelty. While for us seeing Freddie from Wembley during LOML and Freddie from Montreal on BoRhap, it was all over the news here, everybody talking about how beautiful and moving it was to see Freddie leading a singalong at Rock in Rio once more. I think it's great to see so much positive press coverage about Queen, but I assume this will make them even lazier: they've been doing this for years, sharing vídeos on social networks and yet they're still treated as big news. Why change? People on TV, newspapers and social networks have talked more about Freddie on the screen than about Ghost Town, which was the real news for us fans.