ActionThisDay 07.03.2015 04:39 |
Being a Queen fan for 40 odd years you think I would know everything, but it seems I don't lol This was posted up via a Facebook group saying that it was rejected by the band in March '82. We've all heard the 'demo' version, but the question here is, is this real or some bugger playing around? link |
Chief Mouse 07.03.2015 04:47 |
Knowing who uploaded this, I'd say real. |
BETA215 07.03.2015 04:57 |
If you want to download it, check my demos collection. |
ActionThisDay 07.03.2015 05:02 |
So this is real? |
ActionThisDay 07.03.2015 05:05 |
That's a nice little collection you've got there m8 btw :-) |
Ghostwithasmile is BACK! 07.03.2015 05:21 |
This one origins from a Hot Space acetate cassette. Fake or real ? Well you have the double mono effect with the acoustic guitar in the right channel only. So extra vocals by Brian and Freddie , diff ending. I don't see any option to fake this without the multitracks and the alternate vocal bits |
rocknrolllover 07.03.2015 08:20 |
Ghostwithasmile is BACK! wrote: This one origins from a Hot Space acetate cassette. Fake or real ? Well you have the double mono effect with the acoustic guitar in the right channel only. So extra vocals by Brian and Freddie , diff ending. I don't see any option to fake this without the multitracks and the alternate vocal bitsCan you tell why this version was rejected? |
BETA215 07.03.2015 08:31 |
rocknrolllover wrote:Ghostwithasmile is BACK! wrote: This one origins from a Hot Space acetate cassette. Fake or real ? Well you have the double mono effect with the acoustic guitar in the right channel only. So extra vocals by Brian and Freddie , diff ending. I don't see any option to fake this without the multitracks and the alternate vocal bitsCan you tell why this version was rejected? Can you tell us why Face It Alone isn't in the Innuendo album? |
hobbit in Rhye 07.03.2015 08:51 |
Chief Mouse wrote: Knowing who uploaded this, I'd say real.Ah; Sikke... This version is quite good for a rejected one. |
brians wig 07.03.2015 09:06 |
Very nice. Shame it fades out so quickly at the end. Thanks Sikke. |
Costa86 07.03.2015 09:07 |
It's as real as Roger's white beard. |
dave76 07.03.2015 10:23 |
Freddie's vocal from another in the beginning. Very nice this one. Another pearl by Sikke. |
GinjaNinja 07.03.2015 10:31 |
I really like this version! Thanks Sikke |
Ale Solan 07.03.2015 11:54 |
BETA215 wrote:As many other unfinished tracks or demos, FIA was the case. Unfinished ideas can't make it to the final product.rocknrolllover wrote:Can you tell us why Face It Alone isn't in the Innuendo album?Ghostwithasmile is BACK! wrote: This one origins from a Hot Space acetate cassette. Fake or real ? Well you have the double mono effect with the acoustic guitar in the right channel only. So extra vocals by Brian and Freddie , diff ending. I don't see any option to fake this without the multitracks and the alternate vocal bitsCan you tell why this version was rejected? |
Ale Solan 07.03.2015 12:02 |
Speed corrected below: (3% slowed down) https://mega.co.nz/#!f4QDQbYD!O6RQExpWlk6912clHk_d5g_4jb1usGqiVLBLm9u6s0A |
BETA215 07.03.2015 12:03 |
Ale Solan wrote:BETA215 wrote:As many other unfinished tracks or demos. Unfinished ideas can't make it to the final product.rocknrolllover wrote:Can you tell us why Face It Alone isn't in the Innuendo album?Ghostwithasmile is BACK! wrote: This one origins from a Hot Space acetate cassette. Fake or real ? Well you have the double mono effect with the acoustic guitar in the right channel only. So extra vocals by Brian and Freddie , diff ending. I don't see any option to fake this without the multitracks and the alternate vocal bitsCan you tell why this version was rejected? ![]() |
BETA215 07.03.2015 12:04 |
Ale Solan wrote: Speed corrected below: (3% slowed down) https://mega.co.nz/#!f4QDQbYD!O6RQExpWlk6912clHk_d5g_4jb1usGqiVLBLm9u6s0A From where do you downloaded the original version? Remember it's not great to transcode things. |
Ale Solan 07.03.2015 12:10 |
BETA215 wrote:the youtube video, I have no other sourceAle Solan wrote: Speed corrected below: (3% slowed down) https://mega.co.nz/#!f4QDQbYD!O6RQExpWlk6912clHk_d5g_4jb1usGqiVLBLm9u6s0AFrom where do you downloaded the original version? Remember it's not great to transcode things. |
BETA215 07.03.2015 12:12 |
Ale Solan wrote:BETA215 wrote:the youtube video, I have no other sourceAle Solan wrote: Speed corrected below: (3% slowed down) https://mega.co.nz/#!f4QDQbYD!O6RQExpWlk6912clHk_d5g_4jb1usGqiVLBLm9u6s0AFrom where do you downloaded the original version? Remember it's not great to transcode things. I mean which service do you used to download it. KeepVid, aTube, and all those. I ask it because all those services convert the video to MP3, not like I do which is take the audio stream of YouTube straight without any kind of conversion to not degrade the quality. |
Ale Solan 07.03.2015 12:15 |
BETA215 wrote:I didn't transcode the video, downloaded directly from youtube as MP4 using atube catcherAle Solan wrote:I mean which service do you used to download it. KeepVid, aTube, and all those. I ask it because all those services convert the video to MP3, not like I do which is take the audio stream of YouTube straight without any kind of conversion to not degrade the quality.BETA215 wrote:the youtube video, I have no other sourceAle Solan wrote: Speed corrected below: (3% slowed down) https://mega.co.nz/#!f4QDQbYD!O6RQExpWlk6912clHk_d5g_4jb1usGqiVLBLm9u6s0AFrom where do you downloaded the original version? Remember it's not great to transcode things. plus, the quality is already degraded being the audio stream from the youtube video already lossy |
BETA215 07.03.2015 12:26 |
Ale Solan wrote:BETA215 wrote:I didn't transcode the video, downloaded directly from youtube as MP4 using atube catcher plus, the quality is already degraded being the audio stream from the youtube video already lossyAle Solan wrote:I mean which service do you used to download it. KeepVid, aTube, and all those. I ask it because all those services convert the video to MP3, not like I do which is take the audio stream of YouTube straight without any kind of conversion to not degrade the quality.BETA215 wrote:the youtube video, I have no other sourceAle Solan wrote: Speed corrected below: (3% slowed down) https://mega.co.nz/#!f4QDQbYD!O6RQExpWlk6912clHk_d5g_4jb1usGqiVLBLm9u6s0AFrom where do you downloaded the original version? Remember it's not great to transcode things. Did you recognized that the program has a function called something like "download unconverted video" or "untouched video" "no conversion"? That function downloads only the video. Reason that leads me to think it suffer of transcoding (I know that YouTube transcode everything, but we don't want more transcoding). I'm only trying to help. If this "te rompe las pelotas profundamente" (bothers you, in English), no problem. :) |
Chief Mouse 07.03.2015 12:28 |
BETA215 wrote:He probably knows what he's doing. Take it easy, pal.Ale Solan wrote:Did you recognized that the program has a function called something like "download unconverted video" or "untouched video" "no conversion"? That function downloads only the video. Reason that leads me to think it suffer of transcoding (I know that YouTube transcode everything, but we don't want more transcoding). I'm only trying to help. If this "te rompe las pelotas profundamente" (bothers you, in English), no problem. :)BETA215 wrote:I didn't transcode the video, downloaded directly from youtube as MP4 using atube catcher plus, the quality is already degraded being the audio stream from the youtube video already lossyAle Solan wrote:I mean which service do you used to download it. KeepVid, aTube, and all those. I ask it because all those services convert the video to MP3, not like I do which is take the audio stream of YouTube straight without any kind of conversion to not degrade the quality.BETA215 wrote:the youtube video, I have no other sourceAle Solan wrote: Speed corrected below: (3% slowed down) https://mega.co.nz/#!f4QDQbYD!O6RQExpWlk6912clHk_d5g_4jb1usGqiVLBLm9u6s0AFrom where do you downloaded the original version? Remember it's not great to transcode things. |
Ale Solan 07.03.2015 12:38 |
BETA215 wrote: Did you recognized that the program has a function called something like "download unconverted video" or "untouched video" "no conversion"? That function downloads only the video. Reason that leads me to think it suffer of transcoding (I know that YouTube transcode everything, but we don't want more transcoding). I'm only trying to help. If this "te rompe las pelotas profundamente" (bothers you, in English), no problem. :)jajaja no problem kid-o ;) I know the "no conversion" item on that program, then the app gives me the option to download the video in different formats, so first transcode there, I cannot help that. Then I have to extract the audio stream (AAC format) from the vid and then edit and save to MP3, second transcode there, cannot help it either since nobody wants an almost unplayable AAC file. That's lineage. The only way to avoid the obvious quality loss it's to get a FLAC file from Sikke ;) |
Ale Solan 07.03.2015 12:40 |
No balls breaking involved here (?) |
BETA215 07.03.2015 12:53 |
And this lineage? AAC > WAV > Adobe Audition > FLAC. I found a webpage that let you download: Adaptive Formats: M4A, MP4, WEBM Separated video and audio files (not usually playable directly). Stream Maps: WEBM, MP4, X-FLV, 3GPP Complete video files with audio. All without reconvertion (aside the obvious YT one). So, you download that file from that page. Then convert it to WAV. Then treat it with your favourite audio editor. And then the output file in FLAC. There you have a non-transcoded file + enhancements. The bad thing would be it would be that it weights a little more than a MP3. |
Ale Solan 07.03.2015 13:13 |
BETA215 wrote: And this lineage? AAC > WAV > Adobe Audition > FLAC. I found a webpage that let you download: Adaptive Formats: M4A, MP4, WEBM Separated video and audio files (not usually playable directly). Stream Maps: WEBM, MP4, X-FLV, 3GPP Complete video files with audio. All without reconvertion (aside the obvious YT one). So, you download that file from that page. Then convert it to WAV. Then treat it with your favourite audio editor. And then the output file in FLAC. There you have a non-transcoded file + enhancements. The bad thing would be it would be that it weights a little more than a MP3.AAC is lossy, no need to convert to FLAC. |
LucasDiego 07.03.2015 19:57 |
Wowwww nice version, it's not better than the album version, but it's a nice alternative. |
musicland munich 07.03.2015 23:53 |
Ok, let's get serious on this forum, at least for a second. There are a lot of methodes to fake a song... ...I wouldn't vouch for instrumental bits or additional licks etc... ...but this one is real, the vocals are as real as they can be. Thank you GWASIB :) ( @ 02.38 there is a picture upside down in the YT Video). |
Rami 08.03.2015 06:48 |
Very interesting, thank you very much! |
tomchristie22 08.03.2015 07:13 |
Gotta say, I prefer the intro on this version to that on the album - Freddie's 'ooo-woah' vocal deserves to be present in the mix. The multiple Brian voices for 'This night and ever more' also sound very rich in this, and his 'ooh' vocal for the start of the instrumental break is more audible than on Hot Space. Next time I feel like listening to Las Palabras de Amor, it's gonna be this version over the studio version, I think. |
Oscar J 08.03.2015 08:01 |
Yeah, Freddies intro vocal sounds great here, they shoulda kept that. |
dysan 09.03.2015 05:22 |
Very similar to the other Hot Space working version (rather than 'rejected version' or demo) that leaked previously. But nice to add to my Hot Space folder! Thanks! |
The Real Wizard 11.03.2015 16:10 |
tomchristie22 wrote: Gotta say, I prefer the intro on this version to that on the album - Freddie's 'ooo-woah' vocal deserves to be present in the mix.In fact, if you listen on the album version it's still there - but barely. The multiple Brian voices for 'This night and ever more' also sound very rich in this, and his 'ooh' vocal for the start of the instrumental break is more audible than on Hot Space.That could just be a matter of EQing, though. It's from an old tape that's many gens from the master. Still, cool to hear. Thanks, Ghost. |
tomchristie22 11.03.2015 23:40 |
The Real Wizard wrote:Yeah, I meant to say more present than it is on the album version. I was never sure if it was a vocal or a synth for quite a long time.tomchristie22 wrote: Gotta say, I prefer the intro on this version to that on the album - Freddie's 'ooo-woah' vocal deserves to be present in the mix.In fact, if you listen on the album version it's still there - but barely. |
MackMantilla 16.03.2015 10:56 |
Ale Solan wrote: Speed corrected below: (3% slowed down) https://mega.co.nz/#!f4QDQbYD!O6RQExpWlk6912clHk_d5g_4jb1usGqiVLBLm9u6s0AThanks Sikke and Ale. |
Back2TheLight 23.03.2015 04:20 |
Ooh I like this one a lot!! Thanks!! :) |