QueenZone discussion #1422917
That spotThat spot
| RafaelS 20.02.2015 22:39 |
If that's not a Kaposi Sarcoma spot on Freddie's right arm, my name is Elvis. |
| master marathon runner 21.02.2015 03:04 |
Morning Elvis. |
| cmsdrums 21.02.2015 03:06 |
I don't know enough about the condition to say.....but but I do know that it could equally be a blood blister/bruise caused when putting his studded arm belt on too tightly - I'm always doing that with stuff. |
| The King Of Rhye 21.02.2015 08:30 |
and we should care because...........???? |
| brENsKi 21.02.2015 09:43 |
The King Of Rhye wrote: and we should care because...........????because "that spot" was clearly Freddie's inspiration for his late 80's queen song-writing :-) |
| BETA215 21.02.2015 10:00 |
Ooooooh! That's why he wrote the full Innuendo album with his own hands! Ooooooh! God Save The Brenski! |
| miraclesteinway 21.02.2015 10:08 |
Why do we keep coming back to this subject? I'm sorry RafaelS, but posting this picture and mentioning Kaposi's Sarcoma is just in bad taste now. We all know he had AIDS, we all know he had KS and we all know he died. We also know that he knew by Live Aid or certainly by the Magic Tour that he was ill. Freddie's illness has been thrashed out here so many times and really it's gone way past the point of healthy constructive discussion and is at the stage of tabloid sensationalism. It's far more interesting to talk about Freddie's creativity, compositional style, vocal ability, even what he might be doing had he lived, and we can even argue about what he would think of Adam Lambert in the band, but I fear that talking about the progression of his illness 30 years ago is not doing anything other than wallowing. Sorry, rant over. |
| miraclesteinway 21.02.2015 10:09 |
- and yes, I know I have contributed to a thread about his illness, and probably I shouldn't have. I should have let it lie. I hoped that I was contributing something useful to it at the time I wrote it but I know now I was just jumping off on my ego. |
| Ale Solan 21.02.2015 10:11 |
RafaelS wrote: If that's not a Kaposi Sarcoma spot on Freddie's right arm, my name is Elvis.That's not Kaposi's sarcoma, just a bruise, cocksucker. |
| RafaelS 21.02.2015 10:25 |
Ale Solan wrote:That's uncalled for since we had converssations about your great DVD covers you do. But you're the proof of the imbecility and lack of intelligence of the members who populate this forum. This forum is a laughing stock for a lot of Queen fans. I posted a begnin picture and I got the reactions I anticipated.RafaelS wrote: If that's not a Kaposi Sarcoma spot on Freddie's right arm, my name is Elvis.That's not Kaposi's sarcoma, just a bruise, cocksucker. To all the schizophrenes, drifters, outcasts, leftists, communists, ISIS sympathizers and al, I'm saying as a Swan Song to you all: Fuck you bunch of faggots. |
| BETA215 21.02.2015 10:30 |
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| mooghead 21.02.2015 10:35 |
Another Queen fan using 'faggot' as an insult. What a cunt. |
| thomasquinn 32989 21.02.2015 10:44 |
mooghead wrote: Another Queen fan using 'faggot' as an insult. What a cunt. But you don't find "leftists, communists, ISIS sympathizers" as insults rather disturbing, especially in combination with "faggot"? |
| Costa86 21.02.2015 11:02 |
This photo, and that same spot, have already been discussed here before, in at least one previous thread. In that thread (I can't be arsed to find the link, but it's a relatively recent one), as in this, we came to the conclusion that it is unlikely that that spot is a Kaposi's lesion. A few people also commented on how pathetic this whole AIDS obsession thing is. But anyways, in absence of any other evidence, it's safe to say that it is much more probable that the spot is just a normal bruise. The first photo of a real lesion is from 1986, when he came back from Japan... just FYI (not indulging in AIDS porn). |
| Costa86 21.02.2015 11:09 |
I know many comments sections (esp YouTube), forums, etc., tend to degenerate into insults - such is the nature of the internet. But it's been evident for some time now that this sort of thing is happening too often here - more often than normal on any average board. |
| radefriese 21.02.2015 12:23 |
The music of Freddie Mercury and Queen have meant so much to me in my life. I have been a fan for over 30 years. I was devastated when Freddie died. I found this website several years ago and have only posted to it in the last few months. While there are some genuine fans that post on this board, the majority of what I read are people bitching about what's not been released, complaining about this and that, complaining about Brian's voice now or Roger and his drumming now, loving or hating Adam Lambert or crap like this picture. What the hell? Why does it matter? I just think it's sad that a group of 4 people came together and made beautiful music that ended due to tragedy. Remember the music, the joy you felt when you first heard it or were lucky enough to see them and quit with the endless bullshit that no one in Queen would even care how you feel about. This picture and comments that started this thread are exactly what I'm talking about. It's wrong. I will not post on this board again. |
| musicland munich 21.02.2015 12:27 |
Barbara Valentin mentioned in an interview that he had symptoms since 85'so that would fit... My personal point of view is known here already I guess... And yes I like it to get insulted over the internet - that's why I'am posting here....don't dissapoint me folks. |
| mooghead 21.02.2015 13:22 |
The whole point of the internet is to insult and be insulted. Wanker. ;-) |
| musicland munich 21.02.2015 13:25 |
^ I had that surgery two days ago that you've mentioned in the personal forum.... |
| Costa86 21.02.2015 13:53 |
mooghead wrote: The whole point of the internet is to insult and be insulted. Wanker. ;-)I thought the whole point was to receive penis enlargement emails. The latest email I just received was to buy something to "start having the ejaculation size of a pornstar". |
| Ale Solan 21.02.2015 14:40 |
Costa86 wrote:Are those surgeries expensive?mooghead wrote: The whole point of the internet is to insult and be insulted. Wanker. ;-)I thought the whole point was to receive penis enlargement emails. The latest email I just received was to buy something to "start having the ejaculation size of a pornstar". *thinks about it* |
| Marknow 21.02.2015 16:11 |
RafaelS wrote: If that's not a Kaposi Sarcoma spot on Freddie's right arm, my name is Elvis. I hope some day you catch a disease that kills you slowly, then maybe we can all speculate about how much pain you died in, and how much that discomforted you, when exactly you contracted that disease. Lets be honest though, your hardly worth the effort... We'll all still trawl the net for photo's of you though and hound your family and friends, just for lol's anyway... |
| Costa86 21.02.2015 16:40 |
Ale Solan wrote:I hear you can get some pretty good deals at some of the clinics in Thailand. They also offer free ladyboy companions for the night after the surgery.Costa86 wrote:Are those surgeries expensive? *thinks about it*mooghead wrote: The whole point of the internet is to insult and be insulted. Wanker. ;-)I thought the whole point was to receive penis enlargement emails. The latest email I just received was to buy something to "start having the ejaculation size of a pornstar". |
| musicland munich 21.02.2015 16:52 |
2500 - 6000 Euro in Germany. You can gain 2 - 5 cm ( about 1 or 2 inch). It depends on your individual physis. After the surgery you will have to wear a "penis-stretcher" for a couple of month. If you don't do this you are in danger to loose your progress or even worser end up with a smaller one. |
| Ale Solan 21.02.2015 16:55 |
Costa86 wrote:aaahhhhAle Solan wrote:I hear you can get some pretty good deals at some of the clinics in Thailand. They also offer free ladyboy companions for the night after the surgery.Costa86 wrote:Are those surgeries expensive? *thinks about it*mooghead wrote: The whole point of the internet is to insult and be insulted. Wanker. ;-)I thought the whole point was to receive penis enlargement emails. The latest email I just received was to buy something to "start having the ejaculation size of a pornstar". *takes note* |
| Costa86 21.02.2015 16:55 |
musicland munich wrote: 2500 - 6000 Euro in Germany. You can gain 2 - 5 cm ( about 1 or 2 inch). It depends on your individual physis. After the surgery you will have to wear a "penis-stretcher" for a couple of month. If you don't do this you are in danger to loose your progress or even worser end up with a smaller one.But be aware (and don't ask how I know this), that these operations only increase the size when flaccid. Erect size can't be increased in any way. |
| musicland munich 21.02.2015 17:01 |
Costa86 wrote:Yeah I know they just change the angle a bit...musicland munich wrote: 2500 - 6000 Euro in Germany. You can gain 2 - 5 cm ( about 1 or 2 inch). It depends on your individual physis. After the surgery you will have to wear a "penis-stretcher" for a couple of month. If you don't do this you are in danger to loose your progress or even worser end up with a smaller one.But be aware (and don't ask how I know this), that these operations only increase the size when flaccid. Erect size can't be increased in any way. On the other point it's actually possible to enlarge it in errected condition. But that surgery is way too dangerous... You will get an implant wich will replace the "gainer cells" of your little friend :) |
| Costa86 21.02.2015 17:06 |
musicland munich wrote:Interesting. I've looked this up, and came across a damn penis enlargement forum. Jesus Christ, it's full of people talking about ways to get a bigger dick, and discussing how much length they've managed to gain. This world is crazy...Costa86 wrote:Yeah I know they just change the angle a bit... On the other point it's actually possible to enlarge it in errected condition. But that surgery is way to dangerous... You will get an implant wich will replace the "gainer cells" of your little friend :)musicland munich wrote: 2500 - 6000 Euro in Germany. You can gain 2 - 5 cm ( about 1 or 2 inch). It depends on your individual physis. After the surgery you will have to wear a "penis-stretcher" for a couple of month. If you don't do this you are in danger to loose your progress or even worser end up with a smaller one.But be aware (and don't ask how I know this), that these operations only increase the size when flaccid. Erect size can't be increased in any way. |
| musicland munich 21.02.2015 17:14 |
^The russian dude who had that surgery ( he enlarged it up to 10 inch if I remember correctly) , had to underwent a scond surgery...because women don't want it to be that big ! |
| Oscar J 21.02.2015 17:35 |
It's funny how a penis enlargement discussion actually has more class than the threads original subject. |
| Gregsynth 21.02.2015 18:04 |
Penis. |
| Costa86 21.02.2015 18:25 |
musicland munich wrote: ^The russian dude who had that surgery ( he enlarged it up to 10 inch if I remember correctly) , had to underwent a scond surgery...because women don't want it to be that big !Yeah, I've heard that most women are actually more comfortable with an average sized (5.5 to 6.5 inches) penis than a larger one. |
| BETA215 21.02.2015 21:08 |
Gregsynth wrote: Penis. HAHAHAHAHAHA! He said "Penis."!!! HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA! That's funny because he don't have one (?)! HAHAHAHA! Minor details that makes the difference! HAHAHAHAHA! (Ok, I'm gonna shut up. Sorry folks. =)) |
| tomchristie22 21.02.2015 22:44 |
RafaelS wrote: That's uncalled for since we had converssations about your great DVD covers you do. But you're the proof of the imbecility and lack of intelligence of the members who populate this forum. This forum is a laughing stock for a lot of Queen fans. I posted a begnin picture and I got the reactions I anticipated. To all the schizophrenes, drifters, outcasts, leftists, communists, ISIS sympathizers and al, I'm saying as a Swan Song to you all: Fuck you bunch of faggots.Annnd he reveals his true colours, though they've barely been hidden prior to now. There's been plenty of discussion on this bruise at Live Aid already. It's really futile - it probably is a sacroma, but there's no way of proving that it isn't just a bruise. Either way, there's plenty of better discussions to be had, and plenty of more reliable ways of ascertaining when Freddie first knew he was facing the illness. |
| Oscar J 22.02.2015 13:33 |
Costa86 wrote: Yeah, I've heard that most women are actually more comfortable with an average sized (5.5 to 6.5 inches) penis than a larger one. That's small guy talk. |
| matt z 22.02.2015 21:58 |
SPOT ON! |
| BETA215 22.02.2015 22:56 |
Oscar J wrote:Costa86 wrote: Yeah, I've heard that most women are actually more comfortable with an average sized (5.5 to 6.5 inches) penis than a larger one.That's small guy talk. Being brazilian and having a small dick? That's like a big black guy with small penis. |
| Costa86 23.02.2015 04:26 |
BETA215 wrote:Oscar, not quite clear to me how women saying that big dicks often hurt them, constitutes small guy talk. Maybe you mean small girl? Not sure I follow.Oscar J wrote:Being brazilian and having a small dick? That's like a big black guy with small penis.Costa86 wrote: Yeah, I've heard that most women are actually more comfortable with an average sized (5.5 to 6.5 inches) penis than a larger one.That's small guy talk. |
| Oscar J 23.02.2015 04:28 |
Was just joking around! |
| brunogorski 23.02.2015 09:41 |
BETA215 wrote:Oscar J wrote:Being brazilian and having a small dick? That's like a big black guy with small penis.Costa86 wrote: Yeah, I've heard that most women are actually more comfortable with an average sized (5.5 to 6.5 inches) penis than a larger one.That's small guy talk. Hey, I'm brazilian and actually have a sma- Oh, whatever. |
| Mr.QueenFan 03.03.2015 17:47 |
RafaelS wrote: If that's not a Kaposi Sarcoma spot on Freddie's right arm, my name is Elvis.In my mind i always thought that this spot is a Kaposi Sarcoma too. I've seen other pictures of it, and it's very obvious. Of course, it could be a bruise, but that place is a very unlikely place for a person to get hurt. Just to complement this, there's this thread on Queenzone where miraclesteinway wrote, and i quote: link "The story that I have is that this couple we know once lived in London. She was a microbiologist, at time working in a lab that dealt with blood from HIV tests. However it happened, the people testing the blood knew the names of the patient that they were testing, rather than simply a number - which isn't a problem because the people working in these labs know that they can't talk about any of the work they do that involves the name of a patient lest they lose their job. He was tested under his own name, but of course enough people knew his real name that it didn't slip under the radar. She said that after they tested the blood positive, they actually all stood in the lab and cried because they knew basically what was going to happen. The sentence she used was 'We knew there was no hope'. " ---------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------ So, if this story is true, then Freddie knew from 1985 that he had it - maybe he was in denial or just waiting for better medicine tests to prove otherwise - which never happened! |
| Biggus Dickus 03.03.2015 23:42 |
It's KS I think. One can see another one near that big one already on Rock In Rio concert. It was there still at Live Aid, so it can't be a bruise. |
| Costa86 04.03.2015 06:23 |
Queen must be the only band where people run around with a magnifying glass looking out for spots on the lead singer. |
| Biggus Dickus 04.03.2015 07:18 |
Costa86 wrote: Queen must be the only band where people run around with a magnifying glass looking out for spots on the lead singer. No need for magnifying glass, I'm very observant. |
| hobbit in Rhye 04.03.2015 13:13 |
^ Oi, I love this forum. Anyone who is not observant enough would run around with a magnifying glass (not that it's bad). |
| Costa86 04.03.2015 15:29 |
Observant?! It borders on obsession. Do you think fans of Madonna or Mick Jagger know how many spots they have on their arms? |
| Mr.QueenFan 04.03.2015 17:26 |
Costa86 wrote: Observant?! It borders on obsession. Do you think fans of Madonna or Mick Jagger know how many spots they have on their arms?People can like or not like to discuss this issue. I know that the AIDS topic still throw people away of their confort zone, as it can be seen on this thread. But there's no need to start offending people who bring this topic to the table. But just to clarify, there's no need to be obsessive to notice this sign. It's so obvious that the difficult thing is to ignore it. |
| Biggus Dickus 04.03.2015 23:08 |
Costa86 wrote: Observant?! It borders on obsession. Do you think fans of Madonna or Mick Jagger know how many spots they have on their arms? I don't care. If he lifts his arm and I see a spot I'd hardly call that obsession. I assume you've got bad eyesight or something. |
| miraclesteinway 05.03.2015 04:39 |
We can see the spot there, clear as day, but honestly, there's no way to know if it's KS. I'm not a doctor so I don't know what early stage KS looks like. It could be a bruise, or it could be something else. It could be KS. Who knows? |
| Costa86 05.03.2015 05:54 |
Someone (Big Dickus I think?) mentioned seeing the spot in Rock in Rio photos. That was news to me - and that's why I said 'obsessive' - not about the Live Aid spot, which is pretty bloody obvious - but about the Rock in Rio one. Show me the Rock in Rio one, which nobody has ever mentioned before. Then proceed to make your case that your spotting this supposed spot, during a concert of which we only have mostly low quality footage, and not very good quality photos, is not obsessive. |
| Biggus Dickus 05.03.2015 06:48 |
Costa86 wrote: Someone (Big Dickus I think?) mentioned seeing the spot in Rock in Rio photos. That was news to me - and that's why I said 'obsessive' - not about the Live Aid spot, which is pretty bloody obvious - but about the Rock in Rio one. Show me the Rock in Rio one, which nobody has ever mentioned before. Then proceed to make your case that your spotting this supposed spot, during a concert of which we only have mostly low quality footage, and not very good quality photos, is not obsessive. I saw it in the video footage. It's not my job to find it for you. If you're so obsessed, go find it yourself. I don't need to make a case about my observations either, as I don't care what you think of me. Go ahead and call me obsessed, I know the truth. |
| miraclesteinway 05.03.2015 07:10 |
Truth is all we know is there is a mark on his arm. We don't know what it is. |
| Costa86 05.03.2015 07:23 |
Biggus Dickus wrote:So it's ok for you to make an illogical leap by saying that Freddie had the same spot at both Rock in Rio (Jan 85) and Live Aid (Jul 85), and thus this increases the likelihood of it being Kaposi's, because bruises would have healed in 7 months. But then it is unreasonable and obsessive of me to ask for you to show a screenshot of said spot?Costa86 wrote: Someone (Big Dickus I think?) mentioned seeing the spot in Rock in Rio photos. That was news to me - and that's why I said 'obsessive' - not about the Live Aid spot, which is pretty bloody obvious - but about the Rock in Rio one. Show me the Rock in Rio one, which nobody has ever mentioned before. Then proceed to make your case that your spotting this supposed spot, during a concert of which we only have mostly low quality footage, and not very good quality photos, is not obsessive.I saw it in the video footage. It's not my job to find it for you. If you're so obsessed, go find it yourself. I don't need to make a case about my observations either, as I don't care what you think of me. Go ahead and call me obsessed, I know the truth. Last time I checked, an assertion demands at least some cursory evidence when possible - and especially so when something tangible, like an image or video are involved. Otherwise, why even bother making the assertion? |
| Biggus Dickus 05.03.2015 07:57 |
Costa86 wrote:Biggus Dickus wrote:So it's ok for you to make an illogical leap by saying that Freddie had the same spot at both Rock in Rio (Jan 85) and Live Aid (Jul 85), and thus this increases the likelihood of it being Kaposi's, because bruises would have healed in 7 months. But then it is unreasonable and obsessive of me to ask for you to show a screenshot of said spot? Last time I checked, an assertion demands at least some cursory evidence when possible - and especially so when something tangible, like an image or video are involved. Otherwise, why even bother making the assertion?Costa86 wrote: Someone (Big Dickus I think?) mentioned seeing the spot in Rock in Rio photos. That was news to me - and that's why I said 'obsessive' - not about the Live Aid spot, which is pretty bloody obvious - but about the Rock in Rio one. Show me the Rock in Rio one, which nobody has ever mentioned before. Then proceed to make your case that your spotting this supposed spot, during a concert of which we only have mostly low quality footage, and not very good quality photos, is not obsessive.I saw it in the video footage. It's not my job to find it for you. If you're so obsessed, go find it yourself. I don't need to make a case about my observations either, as I don't care what you think of me. Go ahead and call me obsessed, I know the truth. I'm not going to go through 60 minutes of video footage just to take a screenshot, I've got more important things to do. If you don't believe me that's fine, doesn't rock my world one way or another. |