Queen of Mercury 29.01.2015 13:06 |
Hello. I create a folder with audio (with all tags and correctly names), cover which I design (it's really similar to Rainbow because all concert is similar too), programs from tour, photos, ticket and information about owner the tape and who do it speed correction. Enjoy: link You can see cover here. Maybe I upload other version of cover with color photo not white draft. Greetings from Poland :) |
Mercuryman12 29.01.2015 13:17 |
Queen of Mercury wrote: Hello. I create a folder with audio, cover which I design (it's really similar to Rainbow because all concert is similar too), tags, programs from tour, photos, ticket and information about owner the tape and who do it speed correction. Enjoy: link You can see cover here. Maybe I upload other version of cover with color photo not white draft. Greetings from Poland :)Awesome! Great job other account of mine! |
Marknow 29.01.2015 13:44 |
About time somebody shared this and put an end to all the crap. The joy of a fantastic early recording ruined by a selfish asshole. Whomever leaked this, your a fucking class A dickhead without the grey matter to process all the damage you have done to the community. I now understand why many of the big players wouldn't touch this forum with a fucking barge poll. Thank you Brians Wig, sincerely, for sourcing this audio. If you never share here again I would fully back you. |
Queen of Mercury 29.01.2015 14:51 |
It's my personal account. I'm not second account of "Mercuryman12". LOL. In my opinion this guy behaviour bad. "Mercuryman12" you're just liar and it's not fair. |
Queen of Mercury 29.01.2015 15:33 |
Cover 2. |
Thistle 29.01.2015 16:17 |
Even if you're not Mercuryman12, you're still on a multiple accounts :p |
BETA215 29.01.2015 16:37 |
Thistleboy1980 wrote: Even if you're not Mercuryman12, you're still on a multiple accounts :p Like me. (?) |
little foetus 29.01.2015 16:52 |
Thank you very much for these details. :) Just a technical question... Brians Wig owned the tape since years but any idea about lineage and generation of the recording? |
tomchristie22 29.01.2015 18:19 |
You'd have to ask Brian's Wig and Pittrek for that. |
Nitroboy 29.01.2015 18:25 |
I found this, but I have no idea how legitimate it is Lineage : AUD > ? > MC > Technics deck (cleaned heads, demagnetised) > 2 WAV files (one for each side) > NAS > Cool Edit Pro > speed correction ( I took Procession and God Save The Queen as a "speed reference") > small hiss reduction (I took the ending of each wav file as a "hiss reference" :-) ) > track splitting > directory of wav files > Trader's Little Helper > SBE removal, conversion to FLAC level 8 > FLAC |
Mercuryman12 29.01.2015 18:42 |
Nitroboy wrote: I found this, but I have no idea how legitimate it is Lineage : AUD > ? > MC > Technics deck (cleaned heads, demagnetised) > 2 WAV files (one for each side) > NAS > Cool Edit Pro > speed correction ( I took Procession and God Save The Queen as a "speed reference") > small hiss reduction (I took the ending of each wav file as a "hiss reference" :-) ) > track splitting > directory of wav files > Trader's Little Helper > SBE removal, conversion to FLAC level 8 > FLACYes that's it |
people on streets 29.01.2015 20:11 |
Nitroboy wrote: I found this, but I have no idea how legitimate it is Lineage : AUD > ? > MC > Technics deck (cleaned heads, demagnetised) > 2 WAV files (one for each side) > NAS > Cool Edit Pro > speed correction ( I took Procession and God Save The Queen as a "speed reference") > small hiss reduction (I took the ending of each wav file as a "hiss reference" :-) ) > track splitting > directory of wav files > Trader's Little Helper > SBE removal, conversion to FLAC level 8 > FLACThanks. It's not a master? So in theory an upgrade could be somewhere? |
Mercuryman12 29.01.2015 20:16 |
people on streets wrote:Fuck this shit! I'm not going through this again!Nitroboy wrote: I found this, but I have no idea how legitimate it is Lineage : AUD > ? > MC > Technics deck (cleaned heads, demagnetised) > 2 WAV files (one for each side) > NAS > Cool Edit Pro > speed correction ( I took Procession and God Save The Queen as a "speed reference") > small hiss reduction (I took the ending of each wav file as a "hiss reference" :-) ) > track splitting > directory of wav files > Trader's Little Helper > SBE removal, conversion to FLAC level 8 > FLACThanks. It's not a master? So in theory an upgrade could be somewhere? |
brians wig 30.01.2015 04:08 |
No word of a lie, that lineage is NOT for this recording. |
pittrek 30.01.2015 04:34 |
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brians wig 30.01.2015 05:17 |
No Peter. That's the lineage for the second transfer using far superior cassette playback equipment and my 'new' 24/96 soundcard. The remaster of that is better sound than the one that leaked. As an aside, it was ME who upped the torrent on Dime and added that info (from the wrong folder). Figured I may as well get some share ratio out of it. Ironically though my ISP is preventing me from seeding it! THIS is the lineage for the first transfer: Band : Queen Venue : City Hall, Sheffield, UK Date : November 5, 1974 Lineage : 2nd gen ? tape > WAV > 2 big FLAC files, 1 for each side > Cool Edit Pro (hiss reduction, speed correction, equalisation) > WAV > Trader's Little Helper > FLAC level 8 Tracklist : 1. Procession (tape intro) 2. Now I'm Here 3. Ogre Battle 4. Father To Son 5. White Queen (As It Began) 6. Flick Of The Wrist 7. In The Lap Of The Gods 8. Killer Queen 9. The March Of The Black Queen 10. Bring Back That Leroy Brown 11. Son And Daughter (cut - tape flip) 12. Keep Yourself Alive 13. Seven Seas Of Rhye 14. Stone Cold Crazy 15. Liar 16. In The Lap Of The Gods ...revisited 17. Big Spender 18. Modern Times Rock'n'Roll 19. Jailhouse Rock 20. God Save The Queen (tape outro) complete length : 1:18:55 sound quality : EX - Fantastic concert in front of an audience dying to hear Liar . Although the band seems to be pretty nervous, they deliver a great performance. There are a couple of Brian-related errors, e.g. something strange happenned during the Ogre Battle intro (broken string ? ), he started to play Father To Son much later etc. but it's still great. It's a very early SHA tour concert, so there are quite unique moments, for example the ending of Flick Of The Wrist. . |
tomchristie22 30.01.2015 05:43 |
The way they just end Flick of the Wrist on this one was actually pretty common - I haven't counted, but I'd say the straight ending was played about just as often as the Brighton Rock ending. |
dysan 30.01.2015 05:44 |
Yeah I agree. Monitoring problems most likely for the cue misses? |
Mrmarioanonym 30.01.2015 07:55 |
since Fred goes off-key more often than usual here, yes that can be assumed. Great tape though. Just a shame it had to surface this way. |
The Real Wizard 30.01.2015 09:14 |
tomchristie22 wrote: The way they just end Flick of the Wrist on this one was actually pretty common - I haven't counted, but I'd say the straight ending was played about just as often as the Brighton Rock ending.link They brought in the Brighton Rock ending in November 1974 (after 7 or 8 shows), and played it that was through May 1975 (the remaining 67 or 68). |
Thistle 30.01.2015 11:07 |
Okay, firstly, I'd like to say a big thank you to David for the show. It's a shame it got out the way it did, but it's greatly appreciated nonetheless. However, now seeing that there was another transfer, with a better quality result, can I ask why it's such a big hoo-ha that this one leaked? I'm not trying to be disrespectful with that question, but if you have a superior version, then all isn't lost, surely? Using the superior version as your release on vinyl would surely still be a worthwhile project? (and would attract the support of the folk here with more scruples than Mercuryprick12?? Or, where you planning on releasing the "leaked" version? That would surely serve no purpose, as the main principle is that you get a pressed copy for yourself too? I see it's a second gen tape - which means that someone with a superior version again could be planning a release? I don't know the ins and outs of that side of it, so just asking: have YOU inadvertently leaked something without a go-ahead? With the utmost respect....I'm just trying to get my head around all of this :) Either way, I think you should still go ahead with your plan. Lots of things have been freely available before, and yet become collectable when pressed. Good luck! |
Mrmarioanonym 31.01.2015 03:56 |
thank you for banning MercuryMan12, whoever you are. |
Fmarton 31.01.2015 04:09 |
Thank a lot for this recording. It'a a shame the way it came out. |
tomchristie22 31.01.2015 05:29 |
The Real Wizard wrote:Whoops, I stand correctedtomchristie22 wrote: The way they just end Flick of the Wrist on this one was actually pretty common - I haven't counted, but I'd say the straight ending was played about just as often as the Brighton Rock ending.link They brought in the Brighton Rock ending in November 1974 (after 7 or 8 shows), and played it that was through May 1975 (the remaining 67 or 68). |
brians wig 31.01.2015 06:49 |
Thistleboy1980 wrote: Okay, firstly, I'd like to say a big thank you to David for the show. It's a shame it got out the way it did, but it's greatly appreciated nonetheless. However, now seeing that there was another transfer, with a better quality result, can I ask why it's such a big hoo-ha that this one leaked? I'm not trying to be disrespectful with that question, but if you have a superior version, then all isn't lost, surely? Using the superior version as your release on vinyl would surely still be a worthwhile project? (and would attract the support of the folk here with more scruples than Mercuryprick12?? Or, where you planning on releasing the "leaked" version? That would surely serve no purpose, as the main principle is that you get a pressed copy for yourself too? I see it's a second gen tape - which means that someone with a superior version again could be planning a release? I don't know the ins and outs of that side of it, so just asking: have YOU inadvertently leaked something without a go-ahead? With the utmost respect....I'm just trying to get my head around all of this :) Either way, I think you should still go ahead with your plan. Lots of things have been freely available before, and yet become collectable when pressed. Good luck!The better version would have been the one used for a bootleg release and the one ultimately posted here around the same time (if all had gone to plan later in the year and I'd not been usurped last week). The generation of the tape is pure speculation. It could be a copy of the original. It could be a copy of the copy. It could BE the original. It's certainly been kept nice and quiet amongst a load of other cassettes of Queen concerts for years. I've had it a few years myself after spending nearly 20 years looking for it (and not knowing if it even existed of course) and, as some people here will know if they remember things I've said in the past, I buy collections of bootleg audio and video material (or borrow if not for sale) from people who are now in the late 40's and 50's and have lost interest in collecting Queen. It's the best way to find upgrades and unknown recordings. I live in Sheffield by the way. I'm a local and that's why I've spent 2 decades looking for THIS recording above all others. Believe me, I feel like no stone has been left unturned (short of posting a full page advert in the local paper asking if anyone has it!) As for someone with a better version planning a release, I honestly don't think it's likely unless the improbable happens and some 60 year old man hears about this concert hitting the internet and thinks "Hey, I recorded that. Might still have the cassette somewhere. Wouldn't know what to do with it though and can't be bothered with Queen anymore anyway"! This tape has NOT been in trading circles until very recently. |
moonie 31.01.2015 07:54 |
Mrmarioanonym wrote: thank you for banning MercuryMan12, whoever you are.Unfortunately, it's probably only a matter of time before he's back under a new name I would think... Anyway, Enough of that.. Thanks for this. It's a very enjoyable recording. A shame about the circumstances surrounding it's release. |
Thistle 31.01.2015 08:27 |
Hi David, thanks for your answer, it's really appreciated and clears a lot of the stuff I had been thinking about this. I still think that you could do a release of the show, as planned - as you know, there are some who will always prefer a pressed copy over a download. BBC sessions on mini-LP and deluxe boxes, Hot Space sessions on coloured vinyl, £100 bootleg Rainbow sets etc are testament to that. I know you live in Sheffield, btw - got you on Facebook. I think my avatar gives me away ;). I can only imagine the lengths you went to to get this recording. Put Wardour and Tarantura at the back of your mind. Even if they have this, it will come down to who produces the better product, better artwork and better price. You make sure it's you. |
Rick 31.01.2015 08:27 |
Thanks for sharing! Freddie does the 'what more can I do'-bit in ITLOTG. Nice little detail. |
moonie 31.01.2015 15:48 |
Listening to this again properly on the 'HI Fi' ( I'm old) and it seems like the quality improves from the beginning of Liar.. As if the taper moved the mic into a better position.. You can just picture him thinking ' Shit.. I wish I'd done that an hour ago..' It's an enjoyable show. The band are a bit edgy and you can hear it.. They were still on the way to becoming the ultra confident live killers of a couple of years or so later. |
people on streets 01.02.2015 15:24 |
brians wig wrote: The better version would have been the one used for a bootleg release and the one ultimately posted here around the same time (if all had gone to plan later in the year and I'd not been usurped last week). The generation of the tape is pure speculation. It could be a copy of the original. It could be a copy of the copy. It could BE the original. It's certainly been kept nice and quiet amongst a load of other cassettes of Queen concerts for years. I've had it a few years myself after spending nearly 20 years looking for it (and not knowing if it even existed of course) and, as some people here will know if they remember things I've said in the past, I buy collections of bootleg audio and video material (or borrow if not for sale) from people who are now in the late 40's and 50's and have lost interest in collecting Queen. It's the best way to find upgrades and unknown recordings. I live in Sheffield by the way. I'm a local and that's why I've spent 2 decades looking for THIS recording above all others. Believe me, I feel like no stone has been left unturned (short of posting a full page advert in the local paper asking if anyone has it!) As for someone with a better version planning a release, I honestly don't think it's likely unless the improbable happens and some 60 year old man hears about this concert hitting the internet and thinks "Hey, I recorded that. Might still have the cassette somewhere. Wouldn't know what to do with it though and can't be bothered with Queen anymore anyway"! This tape has NOT been in trading circles until very recently.Thanks for sharing the story about this tape. Interesting read! |
Mr.QueenFan 06.02.2015 20:29 |
Thanks to Brians Wig for the audio and Queen of Mercury for uploading it. It is unfortunate that it happened this way, but i'm going to enjoy this concert a lot. Queen were on top form on this tour. |
brians wig 07.02.2015 12:22 |
OK Folks. Apparantly this recording is now available on a pressed CD from Breakdown (a Japanese bootleg firm I'm told). Didn't take them long did it? |
BETA215 07.02.2015 12:30 |
brians wig wrote: OK Folks. Apparantly this recording is now available on a pressed CD from Breakdown (a Japanese bootleg firm I'm told). Didn't take them long did it? Horribly fast. I hope they don't use edited versions of "Queen of Mercury" artworks. And I hope nobody's going to buy it. Thanks Jerkfabiano. Or worstman12, as you prefer. |
tassilo 08.02.2015 05:56 |
Thanks. |
people on streets 08.02.2015 10:25 |
brians wig wrote: OK Folks. Apparantly this recording is now available on a pressed CD from Breakdown (a Japanese bootleg firm I'm told). Didn't take them long did it?Bootleggers are downloading on every torrent site. That's why I stopped sharing my recordings on the internet. |
The Real Wizard 08.02.2015 21:54 |
If everyone did that, then all the new music would stop. The bootleggers are going to make their money no matter what's out there. The more free music that's out there, the less people will buy bootlegs. |
Rick 09.02.2015 04:33 |
Lyon 1979 next? :-) |
people on streets 09.02.2015 05:03 |
The Real Wizard wrote: If everyone did that, then all the new music would stop. The bootleggers are going to make their money no matter what's out there. The more free music that's out there, the less people will buy bootlegs.That's not true. Even if all tapers stopped sharing their audience recordings, plenty of new music would be out there for everyone to enjoy. In this day and age pro-shots, radiobroadcasts and internetbroadcasts are very common. Much unlike the situation in the 60s, 70s, 80s and even 90s. I respect you for all the work you did on your website and the dozens of shares you did here, but as far as I know, you never taped a show yourself. I recommend you try to stealth tape (audio and video, two rigs) at a concert you visit. After you have done it, do the audio and video editing, color correcting etc. and make a nice MKV with chapters and share it for free on dime a dozen or some other torrent site seeing that only weeks later some japanese bootleg company made a blu-ray out of it. After that happened, we will discuss the matter further. |
Viper 09.02.2015 08:41 |
Thx! |
Nitroboy 09.02.2015 10:17 |
moonie wrote:Mrmarioanonym wrote: thank you for banning MercuryMan12, whoever you are.Unfortunately, it's probably only a matter of time before he's back under a new name I would think... Anyway, Enough of that.. Thanks for this. It's a very enjoyable recording. A shame about the circumstances surrounding it's release. The irony in your post is that this very thread was started by Mercuryman12, since he and Queen of Mercury are the same person. |
The Real Wizard 09.02.2015 18:53 |
people on streets wrote: That's not true. Even if all tapers stopped sharing their audience recordings, plenty of new music would be out there for everyone to enjoy. In this day and age pro-shots, radiobroadcasts and internetbroadcasts are very common. Much unlike the situation in the 60s, 70s, 80s and even 90s.Indeed, you're right. Of course I was referring purely to things taped from the audience. I recommend you try to stealth tape (audio and video, two rigs) at a concert you visit. After you have done it, do the audio and video editing, color correcting etc. and make a nice MKV with chapters and share it for free on dime a dozen or some other torrent site seeing that only weeks later some japanese bootleg company made a blu-ray out of it.You're in the minority on that one. If the majority of the people who tape shows would be upset about this kind of thing, then places like Dimeadozen wouldn't still be having hundreds of new shows posted every day. |
Nick Browning 09.02.2015 22:51 |
dong wheres my automobile |
people on streets 10.02.2015 06:20 |
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people on streets 10.02.2015 06:23 |
The Real Wizard wrote: You're in the minority on that one. If the majority of the people who tape shows would be upset about this kind of thing, then places like Dimeadozen wouldn't still be having hundreds of new shows posted every day.Again, a false assumption. You can't possible tell if I'm in the minority simply because you (and I) have no hard numbers (facts) on how many people decide to NOT share their tapes. It's just a guess. If you look at the facts, we are not talking about hundreds of new shows that surface daily. At dime a dozen for example, you'll see that within the last 24 hours only 13 shows from 2015 have been shared. Only 1 video ( a pro shot), 1 webcast, 1 radioshow. That means 10 new audience audio recordings surfaced in 1 day. Mostly relatively unknown acts (for most people). No audience video recordings. Also, most things that get shared on dime have been in trading circles some time before they eventually get shared. Most dime shares are older audience audio recordings that have been doing their rounds in trading circles for some time before they get shared eventually. Again, mostly audience audio only. ---------------------------------------------------------------- (Stealth audio + video is still not being shared much. Tapehead2 was an exception with her amazing work (her Roger Waters - The Wall blurays are fantastic, you should check it out). Believe me, I know quite a lot of tapers who think exactly the same as I do about this. Especially if they do audio + video at the same time. ) |
antiden 11.02.2015 01:23 |
The "official announcement" of this release on 'Breakdown' Japanese bootleg label has appeared on a well-known bootleg collectors website: link |
pittrek 11.02.2015 03:09 |
Cunts. Now I'm afraid to share the stuff I wanted to share - I don't want these cunts to make money of it. Especially when 99% of stuff I shared here for free was bootlegged after a few weeks :-( |
brians wig 11.02.2015 05:12 |
The irony is that folks on other sites have been saying Sheffield isn't a good recording (Hmmm. I thought it the best of all the audience 1974 shows), yet at least one bootleg firm has bothered. Shame the artwork is shit and un-inspired. |
pittrek 11.02.2015 05:30 |
Really? I would rate it as excellent or EX- but I didn't listen to it for a long time now |
Gregsynth 11.02.2015 10:53 |
It's definitely at least B+/A-. It's the best audience recording of the 1974 SHA shows by far. |
people on streets 11.02.2015 11:18 |
pittrek wrote: Cunts. Now I'm afraid to share the stuff I wanted to share - I don't want these cunts to make money of it. Especially when 99% of stuff I shared here for free was bootlegged after a few weeks :-(I completely understand. Did you get my e-mail? |
people on streets 11.02.2015 11:20 |
brians wig wrote: The irony is that folks on other sites have been saying Sheffield isn't a good recording (Hmmm. I thought it the best of all the audience 1974 shows), yet at least one bootleg firm has bothered. Shame the artwork is shit and un-inspired.Might have to do with the fact that people tend to compare these 70s recordings with todays standard. Most recordings that are made today are outstanding. For a 70s recording the Sheffield tape sounds amazing. |
people on streets 11.02.2015 11:21 |
antiden wrote: The "official announcement" of this release on 'Breakdown' Japanese bootleg label has appeared on a well-known bootleg collectors website: linkIts not even a factory pressed one. "compact disc recordable" Bet Brian's Wig could have made better artwork too. |
MackMantilla 03.03.2015 10:22 |
Rick wrote: Lyon 1979 next? :-)That would be really nice :D |
Sue Dounim 03.03.2015 18:33 |
is this sourced from a 32kHz DAT? |
bohemian_champions 18.10.2015 17:30 |
Can someone reupload this? the link no longer works |
Unniendo 22.07.2018 23:40 |
Any chance to reupload this show? Thanks. |
Unniendo 22.07.2018 23:40 |
Any chance to reupload this show? Thanks. |
Chopin1995 23.07.2018 08:36 |
Yes :) link |
Unniendo 23.07.2018 21:58 |
Chopin1995, thanks a lot for help! ;-) |
Viper 29.07.2018 10:21 |
thx! |
vivaqueen 11.01.2019 19:34 |
i missed this one, merci beaucoup:) |
Chinwonder2 12.01.2019 11:27 |
Here you go! :)] link -Chin |
vivaqueen 12.01.2019 14:39 |
Thank you a lot Chinwonder just a question where is the true lineage of this link you've post: Audience > Master Cassette > Technics deck > WAV > Cool Edit (speed correction, hiss reduction) > FLAC > WAV > GoldWave (volume raised) > WAV or Lineage : 2nd gen ? tape > WAV > 2 big FLAC files, 1 for each side > Cool Edit Pro (hiss reduction, speed correction, equalisation) > WAV > Trader's Little Helper > FLAC level 8 because in the link the lineage is blurred |
Chinwonder2 12.01.2019 15:05 |
I’m sure actually, sorry :( -Chin |
vivaqueen 12.01.2019 17:27 |
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vivaqueen 12.01.2019 17:29 |
anyway, thank you:) |
The Real Wizard 12.01.2019 23:33 |
vivaqueen wrote: just a question where is the true lineage of this link you've post: Audience > Master Cassette > Technics deck > WAV > Cool Edit (speed correction, hiss reduction) > FLAC > WAV > GoldWave (volume raised) > WAVIt's definitely not this. The generation of the tape is not known. |
vivaqueen 13.01.2019 10:42 |
Thank you Sir Gh, so it's not the same recording that you have on your site ok:) |
The Real Wizard 13.01.2019 20:18 |
vivaqueen wrote: Thank you Sir Gh, so it's not the same recording that you have on your site ok:)Of course it's the same recording. Same tape, different transfer. I've heard 2 or 3 copies, and they're all pretty much the same. |
vivaqueen 13.01.2019 22:13 |
ah, ok , thank you |