QueenZone discussion #1418257
what if this was your last chance ever to see queen as a band??
| david (galashiels) 24.01.2015 18:11 |
if this was confirmed as your last chance ever to see queen(yes i know not the complete band),would you go along to a gig for sentimental reasons......say queen+adaam was the last ever tour,or looking back queen+paul was it,,,would you have gone to the concert even though you dont like the new singer...would your preduces have prevented you from going saying along the lines it aint queen....while thousands of others went along to most for the gig.but some going along because it was the last ever queen gig..and dont reply with why have mutton when we had lamb,or any of that crap...i loved queen in all forms....so would you have gone along just to say.i was at the last ever queen concert......and i have to say,,i would have gone along anyway....fred or no fred...remember this was your last chance before retirement....and PLEASE dont reply with the old saying,it aint fred.........just a simple .yes i would go or no i wouldnt go.. |
| Sebastian 24.01.2015 21:13 |
I wouldn't. Loads of people would enjoy it far more, so one of them should have my ticket. |
| tomchristie22 24.01.2015 23:53 |
The fact is, it probably is the last chance, or at least getting very close to being the last tour. But those who don't consider this incarnation to be 'Queen', or of any real merit, aren't going to place much importance on that. I'm not one of those people; I happily saw Q+AL in Sydney last year. I'm ambivalent about Adam, but it was more than worth it to see Brian and Roger do their thing. I'm almost certain I won't get another chance to. |
| Jake12 25.01.2015 00:22 |
Last time to see Smile? Haha jk no I still think of them as Queen! And I saw them in chicago and like what was said Above I only went to see Brian and Roger tho I love everyone don't love Adam but think he held up his end of the show! Great singer. Might never have the chance to see "Queen" again but you never know. |
| mooghead 25.01.2015 06:39 |
This probably is the last chance. No thanks. |
| thomasquinn 32989 25.01.2015 07:47 |
No. There's just a point where I don't want to see it anymore because it will never be as good as it was, so I'm moving on to other music - the ace records from their glory days still stand as solid masterpieces, so why make do with an inferior substitute? To be quite honest - if it hadn't been for Innuendo, I think I might just have ignored everything after The Game. |
| Mercuryman12 25.01.2015 08:13 |
thomasquinn 32989 wrote: No. There's just a point where I don't want to see it anymore because it will never be as good as it was, so I'm moving on to other music - the ace records from their glory days still stand as solid masterpieces, so why make do with an inferior substitute? To be quite honest - if it hand't been for Innuendo, I think I might just have ignored everything after The Game.You are a depressing guy |
| master marathon runner 25.01.2015 09:13 |
Nope , I would choose not to. Don't blame those who would. I am one of the few here, who is satisfied with Queens catalogue, legacy etc..and I treasure it dearly. To think, 10 years from now , there's every chance that it'll be well and truly over and we'll all just have our memories.(maudlin bugger aren't I ) . To each his , or her, own. |
| Ale Solan 25.01.2015 10:04 |
david (galashiels) wrote: if this was confirmed as your last chance ever to see queen(yes i know not the complete band),would you go along to a gig for sentimental reasons......say queen+adaam was the last ever tour,or looking back queen+paul was it,,,would you have gone to the concert even though you dont like the new singer...would your preduces have prevented you from going saying along the lines it aint queen....while thousands of others went along to most for the gig.but some going along because it was the last ever queen gig..and dont reply with why have mutton when we had lamb,or any of that crap...i loved queen in all forms....so would you have gone along just to say.i was at the last ever queen concert......and i have to say,,i would have gone along anyway....fred or no fred...remember this was your last chance before retirement....and PLEASE dont reply with the old saying,it aint fred.........just a simple .yes i would go or no i wouldnt go..Yes, I'd go with very cheap tickets, otherwise, nope. |
| people on streets 25.01.2015 10:09 |
I had a blast at the 2005 QPR tour. 2008 was a nice, but unneeded bonus. AL just doesn't do it for me. So, I'm fine with how things went and I'm glad I went to see them several times with Paul Rodgers. If this is the end, than so be it. It's good the way it is for me. |
| noorie 25.01.2015 10:55 |
No, not really. Adam aside (I truly have nothing against him, just don't find him exciting), aging rock stars trying to recapture the glory days is just not my bag. Especially since Brian and Roger just keep rehashing the same old stuff over and over again. They have not really moved ahead as 'Queen' since 1991. Perhaps if I was born in a different generation - one without DVDs, YouTube, etc. I would go, but today I see no point in doing so. I do have tremendous respect for the older generation of musicians (David Bowie, Robert Plant, etc) who have made the effort to come up with amazing new work. |
| Mercuryman12 25.01.2015 12:18 |
No. As much as I respect Adam seeing him perform with the guys once is enough. If Brian and Roger had a farewell show similar to the Trubute concert with people like Bowie Plant Daltey etc then I would definitely try to go as that would be a sight to see as it would probably be the last "big" rock and roll event featuring all the greats from the 70s |
| Marshallhead 25.01.2015 12:40 |
No I wouldn't. I saw their last ever gig in person anyway. |
| noorie 25.01.2015 12:52 |
Mercuryman12 wrote: No. As much as I respect Adam seeing him perform with the guys once is enough. If Brian and Roger had a farewell show similar to the Trubute concert with people like Bowie Plant Daltey etc then I would definitely try to go as that would be a sight to see as it would probably be the last "big" rock and roll event featuring all the greats from the 70sI would definitely go see something like the Freddie Mercury Tribute. Brian and Roger (since I doubt we will ever see John on the bass again) performing with some amazing talent! |
| Oscar J 25.01.2015 13:37 |
I probably would not, unless they came to southern Sweden and the tickets were really cheap. It's not that I don't like the concept of Maylor touring with somebody else than Freddie, it's just that I don't think Adam's the right man for the job. |
| mooghead 25.01.2015 14:18 |
Ale Solan wrote:If Queen paid me 10 grand to sit through their concert I MIGHT consider it. Roger fucks off for a rest half way through doesn't he? Would you still go if Brian did that and his son played the guitar? They are past it.david (galashiels) wrote: if this was confirmed as your last chance ever to see queen(yes i know not the complete band),would you go along to a gig for sentimental reasons......say queen+adaam was the last ever tour,or looking back queen+paul was it,,,would you have gone to the concert even though you dont like the new singer...would your preduces have prevented you from going saying along the lines it aint queen....while thousands of others went along to most for the gig.but some going along because it was the last ever queen gig..and dont reply with why have mutton when we had lamb,or any of that crap...i loved queen in all forms....so would you have gone along just to say.i was at the last ever queen concert......and i have to say,,i would have gone along anyway....fred or no fred...remember this was your last chance before retirement....and PLEASE dont reply with the old saying,it aint fred.........just a simple .yes i would go or no i wouldnt go..Yes, I'd go with very cheap tickets, otherwise, nope. |
| mooghead 25.01.2015 14:19 |
The only thing Brian is playing these days is his stupid fucking selfie stick. He even looks bored on his own youtube channel. |
| The Ghost of Lester Burnham 25.01.2015 15:25 |
Sebastian wrote: I wouldn't. Loads of people would enjoy it far more, so one of them should have my ticket.This. |
| tomchristie22 25.01.2015 15:47 |
mooghead wrote: The only thing Brian is playing these days is his stupid fucking selfie stick. He even looks bored on his own youtube channel.He's still playing guitar excellently on most shows. The stick with the Go Pro just a unique way of documenting the shows and the people attending them, probably mostly for himself. |
| dysan 25.01.2015 15:49 |
I only went in 2012 because it was Hammy Odeon. That meant something to me on many levels. I'm glad I did it. |
| dysan 25.01.2015 16:05 |
Cool setlist then and also on this tour (better than the US one last year) but the ticket prices are massive and the venue just doesn't do it for me. I was sad to see a HUGE amount of Adam Lambert fans - even in the pub before MILFs were making such a fuss of him. I think the Queen fans like me took up our places middle and back. |
| david (galashiels) 25.01.2015 17:01 |
funny you should mention MILFS..even in my ageing years i noticed that at glasgow...lol.... |
| david (galashiels) 25.01.2015 17:38 |
I HAVE TO SAY...if it were the last queen gig(whoever the main singer was)i would go along......if it was paul i would feel i was getting 2 or 3 concerts in one....if it was adam i would get queens greatest hits..so yes i would......it would be nice if they throw in some roger singles and brians as well..but having seen all combinations of queen i would love it. |
| katman 25.01.2015 18:22 |
I enjoyed the unexpected return in 2005, but it's a (slightly hesitant) 'no' from me ... I think :) |
| luthorn 25.01.2015 18:44 |
Ticket prices in Toronto were super expensive, especially if we compare to a band like Muse, which is on top of the world and charges less. At that price level I would not see them with AL. They would be better off doing a live show (guitar + drums) and playing Freddie's voice from a live concert playback. I would see that, unfortunately they are too old to keep up with the tempo from 30+ years ago. |
| The King Of Rhye 25.01.2015 20:05 |
luthorn wrote: Ticket prices in Toronto were super expensive, especially if we compare to a band like Muse, which is on top of the world and charges less. At that price level I would not see them with AL. They would be better off doing a live show (guitar + drums) and playing Freddie's voice from a live concert playback. I would see that, unfortunately they are too old to keep up with the tempo from 30+ years ago.Really tho? Reverse karaoke?? It's cool when it's done like that for the parts of BoRhap and LOML as a tribute to Freddie, but over a whole show? Like Brian said, a concert should be 'live and dangerous' (which is kind of a silly way to put it, but I think I know what he means....) I'd honestly rather see a Queen concert with Brian and Roger handling all the lead vocals.......or watch an old dvd or listen to an old bootleg......than see a 'half-live' concert.... |
| miraclesteinway 26.01.2015 03:48 |
I don't think they are too old to keep up-tempo, by the way. I think that it's as they have got older, they prefer to take the songs at a slightly slower pace. Quite often they played songs in their live set far too fast, and it certainly had amazing raw energy at that time, but it lost a bit of clarity. As musicians, they appear to want to give the songs the breadth that they have on the studio recordings these days, rather than rushing. I'm sure they could play faster if they wanted. OK, Roger might have to do fewer fill ins, and Brian might have to do fewer runs, but I've seen some very old musicians play some works pretty fast. |
| Togg 26.01.2015 04:33 |
I love the way people say they gave up on Queen years ago and hate everything past 91, yet they are still here posting almost every day???? go figure, If I had lost interest in something 25 years ago not sure I'd be posting much.... maybe it's me? |
| Sebastian 26.01.2015 05:23 |
Togg wrote: I love the way people say they gave up on Queen years ago and hate everything past 91, yet they are still here posting almost every day???? go figure, If I had lost interest in something 25 years ago not sure I'd be posting much.... maybe it's me?I'm interested in the 1971-1991 period, and I'm glad to keep posting, reading, writing and learning about it, the same way a palaeontologist remains interested in creatures that became extinct long before any human-like creature ever drew breath. |
| thomasquinn 32989 26.01.2015 05:39 |
Mercuryman12 wrote:thomasquinn 32989 wrote: No. There's just a point where I don't want to see it anymore because it will never be as good as it was, so I'm moving on to other music - the ace records from their glory days still stand as solid masterpieces, so why make do with an inferior substitute? To be quite honest - if it hand't been for Innuendo, I think I might just have ignored everything after The Game.You are a depressing guy How on earth is that depressing? I just don't like to listen to music being performed worse and worse every time, so I choose to listen to new music instead and cherish the good records Queen made in the past. |
| QueenTwo 26.01.2015 05:41 |
No - I totally feel the same way as Thomas Quinn, it's in the past now for me I only enjoy the old stuff and still feel they are acting as a tribute act to themselve's... But can understand how the younger audience who never saw Queen can enjoy this. |
| tomchristie22 26.01.2015 05:42 |
Togg wrote: I love the way people say they gave up on Queen years ago and hate everything past 91, yet they are still here posting almost every day???? go figure, If I had lost interest in something 25 years ago not sure I'd be posting much.... maybe it's me?I think, for those people, it's a matter of still being interested in everything that occurred before '91, not having suddenly stopped being interested in Queen altogether on January 1 1992. Considering a huge portion of the discussion here is based on the band's original run, I don't see anything contradictory about those people posting here. |
| ITSM 26.01.2015 05:43 |
I'm not sure, I think I actually wouldn't go. |
| ITSM 26.01.2015 06:16 |
Thought about it some more, I think I would've gone. Better than another night on the couch, I guess. |
| anniestu44b 26.01.2015 08:07 |
How depressing has this site become!? Just go or don't go, who gives a shit, I'd rather all the bloody nae Sayers stay away and wallow in nostalgia and leave all us open minded fans to have a great night enjoying a very well produced show full of great musicians who just want keep enjoying what they do. I Saw QPR 3 times, I've see QAL 3 times and enjoyed them all in different ways. I never got to see Freddie, John, Roger and Brian perform together ( apart from on film) but I don't cry about it! I enjoy what I can while I have the chance. But that's my choice. |
| Togg 26.01.2015 08:34 |
Sebastian wrote:Surely there can't be much on Queenzone that you can learn about the 71-91 period that you don't already know Seb?Togg wrote: I love the way people say they gave up on Queen years ago and hate everything past 91, yet they are still here posting almost every day???? go figure, If I had lost interest in something 25 years ago not sure I'd be posting much.... maybe it's me?I'm interested in the 1971-1991 period, and I'm glad to keep posting, reading, writing and learning about it, the same way a palaeontologist remains interested in creatures that became extinct long before any human-like creature ever drew breath. This was not really aimed at you as such, I just am so fed up with reading posts about how much people hate what Brian and Roger are doing... enough already, mostly it seems to be a few of the usual sad 13 year old's alone in their bedrooms with no mates who have to post every five mins that Queen are dead... Judging from the recent concerts it would appear they are fair from it, I have to say i haven't seen Brian enjoying himself so much in many many years, the recent gigs have been every bit as powerful and exciting as the Freddie days and I was there for both! They are sounding and playing with the same passion they did in the 70's frankly 2006 was pretty good, 2008 was not great, but this time around they are awesome live. If you miss it you are missing something special (IMO) I felt like I was 17 again and seeing them back in the day. But i respect your views, you don't bleat on about it all the time which is why I rarely post here much these days. As that's all I see here, then funny enough the tour sells out and gets amazing reviews so it would seem the few naysayers on Queenzone spouting endlessly they are now crap would be somewhat outnumbered... |
| luthorn 26.01.2015 09:20 |
The King Of Rhye wrote:Allow me to rephrase: would I see BM and RT play by themselves? yes. Would I see BM, RT + ? no. I am fine with hearing an all instrumental concert from those two. As far as I am concerned, the audience could fill in for the lead singer.luthorn wrote: Ticket prices in Toronto were super expensive, especially if we compare to a band like Muse, which is on top of the world and charges less. At that price level I would not see them with AL. They would be better off doing a live show (guitar + drums) and playing Freddie's voice from a live concert playback. I would see that, unfortunately they are too old to keep up with the tempo from 30+ years ago.Really tho? Reverse karaoke?? It's cool when it's done like that for the parts of BoRhap and LOML as a tribute to Freddie, but over a whole show? Like Brian said, a concert should be 'live and dangerous' (which is kind of a silly way to put it, but I think I know what he means....) I'd honestly rather see a Queen concert with Brian and Roger handling all the lead vocals.......or watch an old dvd or listen to an old bootleg......than see a 'half-live' concert.... |
| queenfanbg 26.01.2015 09:35 |
Queen band is already death since 1991. |
| Ale Solan 26.01.2015 10:13 |
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| The King Of Rhye 26.01.2015 11:40 |
luthorn wrote: Allow me to rephrase: would I see BM and RT play by themselves? yes. Would I see BM, RT + ? no. I am fine with hearing an all instrumental concert from those two. As far as I am concerned, the audience could fill in for the lead singer.Well, I'm sure if it was Brian and Roger as Queen, with no singer, they would be doing vocals themselves......(which I would have no problem with).......having them play and letting the audience fill in the vocals? Don't think that'd work, either....... So there's absolutely no one you'd like to see singing with them? Or you just dont like the idea of them having a new singer? |
| gerry 26.01.2015 12:11 |
Queen might as well be invisible since Adam Lambert gets all the praise and limelight and why? Silly screaming girls who do not give a fig about May & Taylor but just want to swoon over Lambert! Queen's greatest days are long behind them, and now its just horsing around with anyone taking vocals, you can not take Queen seriously now. |
| Mercuryman12 26.01.2015 12:14 |
gerry wrote: Queen might as well be invisible since Adam Lambert gets all the praise and limelight and why? Silly screaming girls who do not give a fig about May & Taylor but just want to swoon over Lambert! Queen's greatest days are long behind them, and now its just horsing around with anyone taking vocals, you can not take Queen seriously now.Gerry it's over Freddie's Mum and sister approve of they approve then I'm reasonably sure all of your arguments are now in the toilet. They are Freddie's family if you need the opinions of anyone it should be theirs |
| gerry 26.01.2015 12:30 |
Freddies mum and sister are nice people and they aint gonna be rude to May & Taylor are they? We all know Queen are crap now. |
| Mercuryman12 26.01.2015 12:35 |
gerry wrote: Freddies mum and sister are nice people and they aint gonna be rude to May & Taylor are they? We all know Queen are crap now.If Mary went to a show would that change your mind? |
| gerry 26.01.2015 12:51 |
I do not care who goes to see this ridiculous show it is crap end off. Queen have humiliated themselves now big time, instead of leaving well alone and be proud of what they were with Freddie, but no Brian in all his glory has destroyed what was once a classy, incredible Rock group with an awful american big headed mary. |
| Mercuryman12 26.01.2015 12:55 |
gerry wrote: I do not care who goes to see this ridiculous show it is crap end off. Queen have humiliated themselves now big time, instead of leaving well alone and be proud of what they were with Freddie, but no Brian in all his glory has destroyed what was once a classy, incredible Rock group with an awful american big headed mary.Was that a derogatory term directed at Adam? That isn't cool |
| gerry 26.01.2015 13:06 |
yes it was and to be honest he is embarrassing to watch. he turns my stomach every time and you get to wonder to yourself what the hells that on stage, if you know you can have it! I am a massive ardent Queen fan and to see them go from hero to zero is a shock! May knows they are going to fizzle, but it was his fault for been so stupid to reinvent the group again. |
| Mercuryman12 26.01.2015 13:12 |
gerry wrote: yes it was and to be honest he is embarrassing to watch. he turns my stomach every time and you get to wonder to yourself what the hells that on stage, if you know you can have it! I am a massive ardent Queen fan and to see them go from hero to zero is a shock! May knows they are going to fizzle, but it was his fault for been so stupid to reinvent the group again.So now you are being homophobic |
| luthorn 26.01.2015 14:17 |
The King Of Rhye wrote:those shoes are just much too big to fill.luthorn wrote: Allow me to rephrase: would I see BM and RT play by themselves? yes. Would I see BM, RT + ? no. I am fine with hearing an all instrumental concert from those two. As far as I am concerned, the audience could fill in for the lead singer.Well, I'm sure if it was Brian and Roger as Queen, with no singer, they would be doing vocals themselves......(which I would have no problem with).......having them play and letting the audience fill in the vocals? Don't think that'd work, either....... So there's absolutely no one you'd like to see singing with them? Or you just dont like the idea of them having a new singer? |
| ANAGRAMER 26.01.2015 14:28 |
gerry wrote: I do not care who goes to see this ridiculous show it is crap end off. Queen have humiliated themselves now big time, instead of leaving well alone and be proud of what they were with Freddie, but no Brian in all his glory has destroyed what was once a classy, incredible Rock group with an awful american big headed mary.Gerry, did you actually go to a show? As in, did you pay your money and buy a ticket? |
| Sebastian 26.01.2015 15:24 |
anniestu44b wrote: I'd rather all the bloody nae Sayers stay away and wallow in nostalgia and leave all us open minded fans to have a great nightSo whoever doesn't want to go is a 'bloody nae (sic) sayer' wallowing in nostalgia and whoever wants to go is openminded, right? Wrong! Plenty of people who want to go are open minded, plenty of people who don't want to go are also open minded; plenty of people who want to go are narrow-minded and plenty of people who don't want to go are also narrow-minded. Not everyone who wants to go is the ultimate role model, and not everyone who doesn't want to go is a bloody naysayer living in the past. Togg wrote: Surely there can't be much on Queenzone that you can learn about the 71-91 period that you don't already know Seb?On the contrary, there's plenty. What I know about the 1971-1991 period is remarkably minimal compared to what I don't know. Togg wrote: As that's all I see here, then funny enough the tour sells out and gets amazing reviews so it would seem the few naysayers on Queenzone spouting endlessly they are now crap would be somewhat outnumbered...Good reviews don't guarantee that something is good, the same way bad reviews don't guarantee something is bad. A lot (not all) of those reviews are done by and for ignorant people anyway. Those who like this collab: Ace! Those who hate it: Ace! Those who either like it or hate it or anything in between and respect those who disagree: Ace! Those who try to persuade others to agree with their POV, whichever it might be, and/or belittle those who think differently: Eff off! |
| The King Of Rhye 26.01.2015 15:24 |
ANAGRAMER wrote:No, he didn't......he probably watched 30 seconds of a video clip and decided that was enough for him to be the ultimate authority on the artistic merit or lack thereof of Adam Lambert....(never mind that some people like him, their opinions are worth nothing)gerry wrote: I do not care who goes to see this ridiculous show it is crap end off. Queen have humiliated themselves now big time, instead of leaving well alone and be proud of what they were with Freddie, but no Brian in all his glory has destroyed what was once a classy, incredible Rock group with an awful american big headed mary.Gerry, did you actually go to a show? As in, did you pay your money and buy a ticket? |
| MadTheSwine73 26.01.2015 16:56 |
Yeah, I would go. Without a doubt. |
| david (galashiels) 26.01.2015 17:15 |
so it seems once again..like so many threads before its going down the pan...for fuck sake cant we have a question answered without all this bickering....people wont place threads if all it comes down to is....i hate him,,it aint queen...the same old bile time and time again...it was nice so many replied ,but again spoiled by the usual hate...in my original post i asked for this not to happen,....failed big ttime....some people just wont accept a new singer,,,even if he was voted the greatest singer in the history on all mankind......well i say i like the new singer and i liked the previous singer.and of course loved the original singer...and if you cant answer a simple question without all the hatred.....dont bother |
| tomchristie22 26.01.2015 18:15 |
gerry wrote: Queen might as well be invisible since Adam Lambert gets all the praise and limelight and why? Silly screaming girls who do not give a fig about May & Taylor but just want to swoon over Lambert! Queen's greatest days are long behind them, and now its just horsing around with anyone taking vocals, you can not take Queen seriously now.I'm pretty sure some Lambert fans even go in expecting it to be Lambert as an opening act, then 'Queen' doing their thing. That was definitely the impression a lot of people were giving on FB when the Australian tour was announced (though vocal Queen fans on the FB page are generally notoriously stupid). Still, I think the majority of people attending these things are Queen fans. |
| *goodco* 26.01.2015 18:37 |
If I could find my post from when the Queen+AL tour was announced, it went something along the lines of 'well, I'm going as a way of saying 'this will be the last chance to see Brian and Roger..... thanks for the great memories.' No excitement, no rah-rah feelings, no anything. Then I saw some youtube bits with the volume cranked up. Read what friends had to say. Damn, this is going to be way better than I thought. Madison Square Garden was electric. So was Meriweather Pavilion. As good or better than the Q+PR first American show in New Jersey. Loads better than the following tour, when 1/4 of the seats were covered. Q+AL wasn't at good as the Queen concerts I saw from '74 to '82 (only U2 at The Silverdome, and Springsteen at Joe Louis rate as equals) . I had a better time than expected. My wife loved it. We were able to share an 'event' with friends. It provided some great memories, and made us feel young again for a night or two. And it re-kindled my interest in Queen. So, it was a worthwhile experience. |
| The King Of Rhye 26.01.2015 19:49 |
*goodco* wrote: Q+AL wasn't at good as the Queen concerts I saw from '74 to '82 (only U2 at The Silverdome, and Springsteen at Joe Louis rate as equals) .Ah, the good ol Joe.......never saw a concert there, but saw quite a few Red Wings games there :D Only a few years left for that place, ya know.... |
| thomasquinn 32989 27.01.2015 04:58 |
david (galashiels) wrote: so it seems once again..like so many threads before its going down the pan...for fuck sake cant we have a question answered without all this bickering....people wont place threads if all it comes down to is....i hate him,,it aint queen...the same old bile time and time again...it was nice so many replied ,but again spoiled by the usual hate...in my original post i asked for this not to happen,....failed big ttime....some people just wont accept a new singer,,,even if he was voted the greatest singer in the history on all mankind......well i say i like the new singer and i liked the previous singer.and of course loved the original singer...and if you cant answer a simple question without all the hatred.....dont bother If I read between the lines here, you define every answer that isn't "Hell yeah, I'm going to see them because it's GREAT" as "hate". If you're going to ask a question about a controversial topic, you should expect to get answers you might not agree with. |
| Sebastian 27.01.2015 05:36 |
thomasquinn 32989 wrote: If I read between the lines here, you define every answer that isn't "Hell yeah, I'm going to see them because it's GREAT" as "hate". If you're going to ask a question about a controversial topic, you should expect to get answers you might not agree with.Hell yeah! |
| david (galashiels) 27.01.2015 05:38 |
yes looking at it it looks that way.it wasnt ment to be...there are a number of people who say in a straightforward way that this not for them..fair enough....there are others who just want to slag and be rather rude about the complete thing...maybe looking back it should have been better worded. |
| thomasquinn 32989 27.01.2015 05:43 |
Well yeah, you're going to get complete bastards in every topic (pretty much), judging from the rest of this forum and about a decade of experience on here. Sometimes, those trolling responses are a good excuse to poke fun at the person who wrote them, if they're not, I say just ignore them (gerry...). There are a number of meaningful responses, let's stick with those and the people who want to discuss the topic with a degree of sanity and leave the wankers to get ulcers and carpal tunnel syndrome. Don't take them seriously - I know their mothers don't, and you don't have to put up with them living in your basement, do you now? |
| gerry 27.01.2015 07:56 |
There is quite a lot of folk on here who like me dislike Adam Lambert as he has destroyed Queens gracious magic. why would i waste money and watch a 32 year old man screech and ponce around the stage like something from Keith Lemons celebrity juice show? When my money gets spent i want the real deal not fake second rate karaoke crap. To all you people who think i have not studied Lambert in great depth well you are all wrong because i have. My conclusion is your all getting ripped off big time. Many people on here have already stated that todays Queen shows are not as good as in Freddies days. Why would anybody want to see a worse quality show than the massive shows Queen were well known for in the 70s and 80s? call me all you want guys but i know when something is brilliant and when something is shit. Queen today are shit without Freddie. |
| Vocal harmony 27.01.2015 08:17 |
There is a vast difference between not liking something and calling it shit because you don't like it. I never liked Michael Jackson but I never said to anyone that he wad shit because I didn't like him. You seem incapable of forming an adult opinion. You should go and have a discussion about how shit you think this tour is, how bad you think Lambert is and how Queen are disrespecting Freddie's memory with Freddie's mother and sister who were both at the Nottingham gig and enjoyed it! As far as the size of the show goes, since you've mentioned it, it's the biggest Arena production Queen have ever toured with. As far as audiences go, in the UK it's their most successful arena tour, and in fact in the UK and Europe only the Magic tour sold more tickets. World wide this tour had sold better than Hot Space! I think your real problem is quite simply that if you didn't mind Paul Rodgers fronting the band (less successfully) then it's simply that because of your infatuation with Freddie you can't stand seeing another gay man stand on stage and make such a good job of doing so. |
| gerry 27.01.2015 08:33 |
Queen have lowered there standards, they use to be a massive stadium rock act. They have gone from Stadiums at the peak of there career to arenas now. Adam Lambert only has one thing in common with Freddie and that is sexuality, but even freddie was never that girly on stage. i never liked Paul Rodgers singing with Queen but now if i had a choice i would choose him over Lambert. Queens Hot Space Tour was not really a lengthy tour but it did at least sell out. As i said before Mercurys sister and mother are far too well mannered to oppose anything Brian May puts in front of them. They will well know that there brother and son was the best fronting Queen, any decent fan knows that. This is a discussion page and if everybody agreed with everybody else for the majority of the time then it would not be a discussion page would it. i have my well founded opinions you have your beliefs so they you go. My tastes in Queen are in a higher class to yours, but thats ok, accept the hype, in 5 years time you will say Gerry was right. |
| Vocal harmony 27.01.2015 08:56 |
gerry wrote: Queen have lowered there standards, they use to be a massive stadium rock act. They have gone from Stadiums at the peak of there career to arenas now. Queens Hot Space Tour was not really a lengthy tour but it did at least sell out.Queen only toured Stadiums in South America 81 and Europe 86. They did play other stadium/ out door dates such as Leeds and Milton Keynes and Rock In Rio but most of their tours from the mid 70's were Arenas. And in fact two of the biggest shows they've plaice were with Paul Rodgers (Cosmos Rocks) and with Adam Lambert in 2012. The Hot Space tour wasn't short, it ran from May till the end of the year covering UK, Europe the States and Canada and then Japan. Leeds and Milton Keynes were not a a sell out. In fact Milton Kynes sold 45000 out of a possible 60000 tickets. Many American dates didn't sell out, although they couldn't be described as selling badly. So the current tour is very much in keeping with what has gone before as far as sales and production goes. As for Freddies sister, she wouldn't sit through a two hour show and respond favourably if she didn't think it was worthy |
| The King Of Rhye 27.01.2015 08:57 |
gerry wrote: They will well know that there brother and son was the best fronting Queen, any decent fan knows that. This is a discussion page and if everybody agreed with everybody else for the majority of the time then it would not be a discussion page would it. i have my well founded opinions you have your beliefs so they you go. My tastes in Queen are in a higher class to yours, but thats ok, accept the hype, in 5 years time you will say Gerry was right.Holy crap, that last sentence is sheer pomposity.....I didn't think it was possible, but you've outdone yourself, congratulations! You have 'well founded opinions', while the rest of us have 'beliefs', eh? Wow........ Do you really REALLY think that anyone here is saying Adam's BETTER than Freddie? If you don't answer anything else from this post, answer that one........ |
| gerry 27.01.2015 09:10 |
To be honest vocal harmony said the Adam/Queen gigs had out sold the Hot Space tour so yeah i think he is in defence of Lambo, he may even fancy the cretin. Something odd going on here with vocal harmony because he at every chance defends Adam Lambert, and even though there is evidence of some on here who like me do not approve of such a ridiculous set up of Queen playing with a complete tosser, he never moans at them with his posts. i am the easy option to attack because its Gerry and people love to have a pop at truth and honesty. At least i will never spend my hard earned money on reality show dweep, i got more sense than that. No matter what anyone on here says about me i am true to my word that i AM an ardent Queen fan, when Queen were a group and not a circus tribute act like they are today. A 32 year old screecher touring with 2 old age pensioners is cool right? |
| Vocal harmony 27.01.2015 09:31 |
Gerry, if the ticket sales don't back up your argument it's not really down to me! As you say people love to have a pop at truth and honesty, don't you. To answer your snide comment about me fancying Lambert. . . . There's nothing wrong with the ship you sail in but I'm not a member of it's crew so no I don't! I see you have returned to basics at the end of your post by dragging out more insults. Well done. |
| The King Of Rhye 27.01.2015 09:35 |
gerry wrote: Something odd going on here with vocal harmony because he at every chance defends Adam Lambert, and even though there is evidence of some on here who like me do not approve of such a ridiculous set up of Queen playing with a complete tosser, he never moans at them with his posts. i am the easy option to attack because its Gerry and people love to have a pop at truth and honesty.I'm really trying to help you here, ya know......... It's not your opinions themselves I think most people have a problem with......its just the arrogant pompous narrow-minded ill-stated manner in which you put them forth.... |
| Vocal harmony 27.01.2015 09:39 |
The King Of Rhye wrote: I'm really trying to help you here, ya know......... It's not your opinions themselves I think most people have a problem with......its just the arrogant pompous narrow-minded ill-stated manner in which you put them forth....You've nailed it, I think. But I would add to that the relentless over stating of the subject in so many different threads. |
| gerry 27.01.2015 11:28 |
no not at all its the way you read my comments, you probably have not got the right tone when your reading them lol By the way nothing wrong with a bit of pomp, didn't do Fred any harm! |
| *goodco* 27.01.2015 13:09 |
This whole thing is somewhat the same as the Dream Theater 'camp'. Many dropped off when Portnoy left. So be it. I miss his onstage persona and the added energy he provided, but the band seems relaxed, are enjoying themselves, as are those at their concerts. I totally understand those who chose move on. And I understand those who won't see the Queen+ gig. At least those who aren't obsessive, continue to beat their dead horse, hijack every thread, and make it all about me,me,me,me. We got it months ago. Hell, I miss seeing baseball at Tiger Stadium. I don't wake up every day ranting and raving about it ad nauseum on their message boards, just because people like their new(er) park. |
| Sebastian 27.01.2015 14:43 |
Vocal harmony wrote: Queen only toured Stadiums in South America 81 and Europe 86.Not just South America: 09.10.1981: University Stadium in Monterrey, Mexico (Mexico's not in South America). 17.10.1981: Baseball Stadium in Puebla, Mexico (Mexico's not in South America). |
| tomchristie22 27.01.2015 21:48 |
Sebastian wrote:His point stands though - the notion of Queen excelling mainly as a 'stadium rock band' is nonsense in my opinion. Watching Freddie move in time with the music, in his white Zandra Rhodes costume, and on a fairly small stage, is just as enthralling if not more so than watching him run from one end of an enormous stage to the other.Vocal harmony wrote: Queen only toured Stadiums in South America 81 and Europe 86.Not just South America: 09.10.1981: University Stadium in Monterrey, Mexico (Mexico's not in South America). 17.10.1981: Baseball Stadium in Puebla, Mexico (Mexico's not in South America). |
| Sebastian 28.01.2015 01:53 |
Sure, I'm not debating that, I'm just asking for more accuracy: either those two dates in Mexico were forgotten (hardly believable considering how infamous the second one was) or the awful mistake of placing Mexico in South America was made... and it is indeed quite awful since it is akin to saying Pakistan is sandwiched between England and Wales. |
| thomasquinn 32989 28.01.2015 05:14 |
gerry wrote: no not at all its the way you read my comments, you probably have not got the right tone when your reading them lol By the way nothing wrong with a bit of pomp, didn't do Fred any harm! I usually ignore you because you're a hyper-arrogant jerk with an extremely limited grasp on such concepts as "facts", "reality" and "truth", however, I'm going to latch on to this one: This is your same tired old weaseling all over again: everything is somebody else's fault. If your posts sound arrogant, that's supposedly not because you're arrogant but because *people read your posts wrong*. How fucking blind are you? I seriously hope you don't act like this in real life, because if you do, I can totally see why everyone who ever met you would hate your guts. |
| brENsKi 28.01.2015 07:59 |
gerry wrote:To be honest vocal harmony said the Adam/Queen gigs had out sold the Hot Space tour so yeah i think he is in defence of Lambo, he may even fancy the cretin. ?waytogo Gezza. you really have no perception or grasp of reality do you? if you did, then you'd understand the irony of labelling a "cretin" someone who has achieved more in 5 years of hard work than you will ever conceive or imagine achieving in three hundred of your own lifetimes.... and FYI - i don't like AL at all - or the current queen line-up. but at least i can see that it's achieving something important for the band, and the fans that buy tickets...so kindly take your fucking resentful, life-sucking bile and spoil some other band's forum.... gerry wrote:n 5 years time you will say Gerry was right.no one will say this - ever...about anything...you could NEVER be right about anything...not unless the earth begins to spin on a different axis....one based on nonsense, bile and utter fucking unintelligent crap |
| david (galashiels) 28.01.2015 08:50 |
well i think on this post,the dont likes win it by a shade....i for one dont mind adam lambert,i was at first a wee bit worried about his singing.but if i say so my self his singing voice is improving with time....as for his.what shall we call it....campness...he didnt go over the top in glasgow..which was ok.......couple of moments but nowt to complain about...in fact a wee bit funny(d.s.m.n....microphone stand)and as a queen fan of all levels im glad i went...by all levels i mean.fred/paul;/adam....i am far from unhappy to have seen the group in all aspects of front men....if you chose not to go along because you didnt like adam or paul.i think you missed some good gigs....and who knows...in time there may be yet another tour,sort of farewell......or have you missed your chance????.cheers folks |
| Vocal harmony 28.01.2015 10:31 |
Sebastian wrote: Sure, I'm not debating that, I'm just asking for more accuracy: either those two dates in Mexico were forgotten (hardly believable considering how infamous the second one was) or the awful mistake of placing Mexico in South America was made... and it is indeed quite awful since it is akin to saying Pakistan is sandwiched between England and Wales.Sebastian, In the interest of accuracy I think you'll find that those outdoor stadium shows, on two tours that Queen played in 1981, were billed as and commonly know as being South American dates! Hence my reference to them ad such. Maybe you should point the same thing out when anyone talks about the American tour, as that also included Canada. We all know you are a bright chap, but there is no need to try to prove it constantly. |
| gerry 28.01.2015 10:36 |
Brenski: i dont have to spoil the forum because you do that with the shit your spout off on here daily. bent screw. |
| Vocal harmony 28.01.2015 10:46 |
gerry wrote: bent screw.Isn't that you??? |
| Mercuryman12 28.01.2015 10:47 |
Vocal harmony wrote:SHEFFILED 1974 AVAILABLE NOW!gerry wrote: bent screw.Isn't that you??? |
| gerry 28.01.2015 10:50 |
now that is just silly, i am more smart than what you think, but keep bitching if it gets you off! lol |
| The King Of Rhye 28.01.2015 11:03 |
gerry wrote: i am more smart than what you think,Given the opinions of some people here about you, is that really saying all that much? |
| gerry 28.01.2015 11:07 |
i do not care about peoples opinions about me on here because they are all on the bully bandwagon and probably have a clique going on ! i say what i think, and if they can not handle that then tough. i do not agree with many comments on here because i am not like the many arse lickers on here to agree about everything. Truth is Queen are crap without Freddie, |
| Sebastian 28.01.2015 11:32 |
Vocal harmony wrote: Maybe you should point the same thing out when anyone talks about the American tour, as that also included Canada.Absolutely! I also get annoyed if anyone refers to the Republic of Ireland as part of the UK, or to Wales or Scotland as part of England. The correct term for a tour/leg including America and Canada is North American tour. It takes a split second to write the word 'North' (for either Canada or Mexico) and is the difference between a right and a wrong statement. |
| brENsKi 28.01.2015 12:51 |
gerry wrote:bent screw.you're incredible...and not in a good way. nowhere did i ever say i was a prison officer - or anyone that wears uniform in a prison...therefore i can't be a "screw" but then you also said this:- gerry wrote:My uncle is now 76 and i may have got my dates wrong but i am not lying as he was a chief prison officer.and this:- gerry wrote: for fucks sake now i know why you are one arrogant stuck up fucker if you work in the prisons. Geeeeeeeeez you're citing ^^^ everyone working in prisons is a "stuck up arrogant fucker" so by YOUR reasoning, if i'm one then so is your uncle... can you now not see what utter bollocks you speak? you NEVER manage to construct a cohesive or logical argument of any kind. i was going to resist replying to you...but i quite like responding now....people with your sub-normal ability to follow rhyme and reason make for an interesting game of "what shite is ****** spouting today?" ...so keep up the good work Gezza old fella, the shactoids are good for EVERYONE else's amusement - if nothing else. |
| thomasquinn 32989 29.01.2015 01:08 |
gerry wrote: i am more smart than what you think This says it all, doesn't it? All this gerry-crap would be (mediocre) comedy, if it were intentional. |
| ili 29.01.2015 01:47 |
actually this has been the only chance I've had and I'm going to see them. i don't care much who the vocalist is. I'm going to see Brian and Roger and this is as close to Queen as it can ever get at the moment. |
| gerry 29.01.2015 02:53 |
Brenski: well done nice to know i get a reaction from you every time, i never fail ha ha . As a matter of fact my uncle is an arrogant arse hole just like you, but i guess it goes with being a bent screw, all that power and control goes to ones head eh! Keep up the good work and don't forget to reply, missing you already. ha ha. |
| thomasquinn 32989 29.01.2015 08:00 |
Look guys, I'm sure if we all chip in to get gerry lessons in witty retorts it wouldn't come to much per head. Just think of how much it'd improve our enjoyment of QZ if he were actually funny. |
| brENsKi 29.01.2015 08:07 |
link |
| thomasquinn 32989 29.01.2015 08:24 |
If that becomes an internet meme I will hold you personally responsible for my resulting alcohol habit. |
| gerry 29.01.2015 08:38 |
well thank you and respect at last. keep calling me sir , i got the handcuffs! ha ha |
| brENsKi 29.01.2015 10:22 |
thomasquinn 32989 wrote: If that becomes an internet meme I will hold you personally responsible for my resulting alcohol habit.i'll apologise in advance of any future transgressions hehe |
| brENsKi 29.01.2015 10:44 |
link |
| gerry 29.01.2015 11:42 |
POOR BRENSKI JEALOUS BECAUSE I HAVE MET WAYNE SLEEP, YOU POOR POOR SAD RECLUSE. NEVER MIND BRENSKI IT WILL SOON BE TIME TO GO BACK TO YOUR WARD AND GET YOUR TABLETS BEFORE BED TIME, THEN YOU THINK OF ME ALL NIGHT, AND DECIDE WHAT SHIT TO PUT ON HERE TOMORROW. WELL THAT IS AFTER YOU WATCH THE LAST EPISODE OF "MIRANDA" ON CATCH UP! |
| Mercuryman12 29.01.2015 11:45 |
gerry wrote: POOR BRENSKI JEALOUS BECAUSE I HAVE MET WAYNE SLEEP, YOU POOR POOR SAD RECLUSE. NEVER MIND BRENSKI IT WILL SOON BE TIME TO GO BACK TO YOUR WARD AND GET YOUR TABLETS BEFORE BED TIME, THEN YOU THINK OF ME ALL NIGHT, AND DECIDE WHAT SHIT TO PUT ON HERE TOMORROW. WELL THAT IS AFTER YOU WATCH THE LAST EPISODE OF "MIRANDA" ON CATCH UP!link |
| brENsKi 29.01.2015 11:51 |
nice post ^^^ idiot |
| Mercuryman12 29.01.2015 11:52 |
brENsKi wrote:link |
| Mercuryman12 29.01.2015 11:52 |
brENsKi wrote:link |
