| BETA215 18.01.2015 12:32 |
I want to start in the trading world, 'cause of Queen. How can I start? I mean, I don't have any "never leaked to the public" thing. Also, some recommendations for future trades, if I have the opportunity to start. And if you have any experience you want to write, feel free about it. PS: Some users in The Trader's Den dedicated me some posts saying they love me. LOL! link link |
| Chief Mouse 18.01.2015 12:49 |
Hm, the f#%k those threads on TTD are on about? They're interesting though. |
| BETA215 18.01.2015 13:04 |
I think they like to troll new users. But, given that the topic started in 2012, I don't know if it's a coincidence of WTF it is. |
| Chief Mouse 18.01.2015 13:11 |
Now, how can you start? Achieve something that's not freely available to general public. I don't know how can you do that. Maybe you can buy something somewhere if you got spare money. Then try to offer it to someone. That's all. |
| thomasquinn 32989 18.01.2015 13:20 |
Sometimes, you can get lucky in unlikely places. I bought a huge box of cassettes with Queen bootlegs on them. It turned out a few (very few, but still a handful) were better versions than available. The (by now circulating widely) Providence '80 recording in B+/A- quality was one of them. |
| GinjaNinja 18.01.2015 22:23 |
Chief Mouse wrote: Hm, the f#%k those threads on TTD are on about? They're interesting though.In the posts they type "[you]" and it displays the username of whatever user you are logged in as. Leads to everyone thinking the thread is about them. I got very confused too before I realised! |
| Chief Mouse 18.01.2015 22:50 |
^ Oh, that makes sense. |
| alberbal12 19.01.2015 05:24 |
Why I am the protagonist in that forum? Can anybody explain it to me? |
| alberbal12 19.01.2015 05:26 |
alberbal12 wrote: Why I am the protagonist in that forum? Can anybody explain it to me?Ok, i have understand it. What a threads... :( |
| Marknow 19.01.2015 10:45 |
I got caught with that thread on TTD too before I realised, it is fun though, [you] does not work here just in case any of you want to try. As for trading, you are going to need something however small that has not been shared to get started. In time you will develop contacts and a good reputation as long as you are honest and fair and do not post anything you trade for. Personally I find it a bit tedious and I am happy to have the material that is shared here or dribbled out slowly by the bigger traders. It is a bit hard to get there and time consuming but if you are patient, honest and have something to offer the doors are wide open for you and anybody else. There really is not as much as you think out there unless you are into studio stuff like demos and unreleased acetates etc. Personally the live material is my thing be it audio or video, I have spent years looking for certain recordings, like a good master of Dublin 1984 audio and a proper master of the Slane concert in '86 for example but they are just not out there to get. Gregsynth did a nice remaster of the Dublin '84 audio and Bob did some great work on the Slane audio too, all shared here freely. |
| Gregsynth 19.01.2015 11:32 |
"In time you will develop contacts and a good reputation as long as you are honest and fair and do not post anything you trade for." This is spot on. As someone who's in the Elton John trading scene, I always try to maintain positive contacts with anybody who actively trades. Sometimes it takes months before a show can be available for public viewing - but it's definitely worth it in the end. I'm currently in a recording project with some people - it's gonna be a good 2015 for Elton fans! :) |
| luthorn 19.01.2015 21:36 |
same way you make your first million, you steal it ;-) |
| Barry Durex 20.01.2015 02:39 |
Interesting reading. So as a trader you should not post anything you trade for? This seems a little bit pointless if the person you traded it with doesn't mind. This is how material ends up being "locked" in small circles or hoarded. I have dealt with more than one trader who will freely give you a never before shared item or upgrade and not mind if you share it on. What I am trying to say is there comes a point where somebody has to decide to let it go. In my opinion the best way to trade is to give a little, it does your reputation no harm at all. What's the point of taking it to your grave? |
| BETA215 20.01.2015 02:49 |
luthorn wrote: same way you make your first million, you steal it ;-) From Sikke, no? Or The Kurgan? Maybe brianwigs? |
| BETA215 20.01.2015 02:56 |
GinjaNinja wrote:Chief Mouse wrote: Hm, the f#%k those threads on TTD are on about? They're interesting though.In the posts they type "[you]" and it displays the username of whatever user you are logged in as. Leads to everyone thinking the thread is about them. I got very confused too before I realised! Thanks GinjaNinja! Finally I understand it! |
| e-man 20.01.2015 05:44 |
the trading circuit is more divided than ever, as far as I can see the "regular" traders, who before high speed internet used to trade cds/tapes etc. Alot of what was being traded here is now available online, on various sites, as torrents etc. Thus, the need for actual trading to obtain a huge amount of live recordings is very often not necessary. The "elite" group of traders, the ones who have rare stuff in their collections, is, as I now see it, a more closed group than ever. To avoid rare recordings being leaked online, these people will only trade with a limited selection of traders, who they trust their rare recordings with. So to sum up; no idea how to become part of the elite traders :) it's easier than ever to obtain quite alot though, which before downloading wasn't always easy. When I got started I traded blank tapes/cds for certain shows, which got me going. |
| Barry Durex 20.01.2015 09:45 |
See peoples on streets post below. He knows all about hoarding ;-) |
| people on streets 20.01.2015 12:39 |
buy, record and hoard. |
| Thistle 20.01.2015 16:15 |
Don't do it BETA, just wait for the selfless shares. There's stuff I paid good money for before the high speed internet downloads, and things that I traded lots for, and they just ended up here anyway. In fact, the version of Glasgow '74 that was shared here last week is my version - wasn't even me who shared it lol. I now see there's another hoo-ha, concerning some other show. Don't get mixed up in it. Don't put the effort in. Just wait, patiently :) Or else buy JSS's "Hangman" acetate - the gems will roll in lol. |
| The Real Wizard 20.01.2015 21:55 |
Barry Durex wrote: So as a trader you should not post anything you trade for?Sometimes - depends on who you're dealing with. But usually not. What's the point of taking it to your grave?Very few people intend it to happen that way. The point is to accumulate as many things as possible and then let things leak out as time goes on. In a perfect world everyone would just share everything. But there is no utopia. It's complicated. The more you dabble into these things, the more you see that there are so many variables. |
| BETA215 20.01.2015 22:40 |
Thistleboy1980 wrote: In fact, the version of Glasgow '74 that was shared here last week is my version - wasn't even me who shared it lol. [...] Hmm... what? It was shared in The Trader's Den to trade? I don't find it here. |
| Thistle 21.01.2015 05:06 |
Sorry, '73 not '74. It's in announce forums. |
| BETA215 21.01.2015 14:30 |
^ And what finally happened to that tape which you say your friend has (Stirling Uni show)? |
| Thistle 22.01.2015 05:40 |
When there's new developments, you'll know (eventually lol). :) |
| Slick2007 25.01.2015 17:52 |
there are still quite a few gems to be discovered. How would someone actually get in contact with the 'inner circle' if you have something really special to offer |
| BETA215 25.01.2015 21:21 |
Slick2007 wrote: there are still quite a few gems to be discovered. How would someone actually get in contact with the 'inner circle' if you have something really special to offer Here you have a gem! link The inspiration for See What A Fool I've Been. That's not enough?! :( |
| The Real Wizard 25.01.2015 23:24 |
Slick2007 wrote: there are still quite a few gems to be discovered. How would someone actually get in contact with the 'inner circle' if you have something really special to offerFind Queen websites and contact the people who run them. Or PM people here who seem to know what they're talking about. Eventually you'll run into the right person or someone who knows them. |
| BETA215 26.01.2015 02:01 |
The Real Wizard wrote:Slick2007 wrote: there are still quite a few gems to be discovered. How would someone actually get in contact with the 'inner circle' if you have something really special to offerFind Queen websites and contact the people who run them. Or PM people here who seem to know what they're talking about. Eventually you'll run into the right person or someone who knows them. What a hint! LOL. He's just the creator of a great Queen website, queenlive.ca. He seem to know what he's talking about, but more than seem, he is not what it seems. He's better than that. And well, he is a ******. |