| gerry 14.12.2014 13:10 |
Tony Blackburn was rumoured to live near by to Freddie at "Logan Place" so it will be a great surprise to you all when i tell you he actually hates Queen! In one of his books he actually says he dislikes Queen and he never got them! I recently requested a Queen song on his radio show, he mentioned my name but missed out the part asking for a Queen record to be played this happened on two seperate occasions, and i now will name and shame him as a prick. He is an ignorant self centered man. what do you all think, and is there any other celebs who hate Freddie & co ? |
| GERRYISADICK 14.12.2014 13:38 |
Get over it Gerry you may not know this but not everyone likes queen |
| miraclesteinway 14.12.2014 13:46 |
there are many people who don't like Queen all that much. It's not their fault they have no taste. |
| miraclesteinway 14.12.2014 13:48 |
Johnny Marr doesn't like them either. Because it's choral and written on the piano. It's really quite an ignorant stance to only 'get' music that you can play. |
| Bad Seed 14.12.2014 14:21 |
I believe he is a big fan of the current Queen + Adam Lambert line up though |
| The Ghost of Lester Burnham 14.12.2014 14:34 |
Who really cares that someone doesn't like Queen? |
| Mr.Mouth 14.12.2014 15:05 |
Well everyone had its taste..but if you dont like Queen or some other rock band (you)we dont need to do insults either. I dont like Boy George for example but thwt doesnt mean I go and tras that guy or hate on some net forums. Hope you understand my english my fellow friends QueenZoners ;) |
| The King Of Rhye 14.12.2014 16:58 |
Is that the same guy mentioned on Rainbow? |
| Band Forever 14.12.2014 17:04 |
Tony Blackburn - Smug Tosspot on Radio 2. Annoying DJ repartee. I believe he likes Motown Supremes and all that era. He claims he had a hit in the U.K. of which no one appears to know or heard. |
| The King Of Rhye 14.12.2014 17:12 |
He does kinda sound like an ass............but I wouldn't call him that just for not liking Queen.......or (gasp!) not playing someone's request (twice! Oh the horror!) |
| flash00. 14.12.2014 17:38 |
He's always hated Queen he slated Bohemian Rhapsody long before Freddie passed away which is his prerogativ, for the last 30 yrs Blackburn has been a walking parody of himself I.e died black dodgy haircut medallion man and yup I'm openly slating him haa. Like the station states phone a request. |
| inu-liger 14.12.2014 19:12 |
gerry wrote: He is an ignorant self centered man. what do you all thinkI think you should be appreciative of the free healthy serving of irony à la carte you just got there, gerry boy ;) |
| BETA215 14.12.2014 19:15 |
^ QueenZone programming hugs. A hame. ha |
| inu-liger 14.12.2014 19:19 |
BETA215 wrote: ^ QueenZone programming hugs. A hame. haYeah. Dunno if it was related to using my iPhone or not, but that kind of pissed me off there. Anyways I fixed the post now :) PS. I think you missed an 's' in there ;) |
| BETA215 14.12.2014 19:50 |
inu-liger wrote:BETA215 wrote: ^ QueenZone programming hugs. A hame. haYeah. Dunno if it was related to using my iPhone or not, but that kind of pissed me off there. Anyways I fixed the post now :) PS. I think you missed an 's' in there ;) It was supposed to show: "^ QueenZone programming bugs. A shame." Anyway, that QueenZone bug (which don't post what you write if you quote someone) happened to me in many different devices: Surface RT, Nokia Lumia 520, Lenovo notebook, Nokia Asha 309, a custom desktop. That's a QueenZone problem more than a browser problem. |
| inu-liger 14.12.2014 19:55 |
"Hugs," hahaha. Funny I didn't notice that but I notice "hame." LMAO |
| The King Of Rhye 14.12.2014 19:59 |
Any time I hear or see that name, though......I am going to think "this is the side you haven't been hearing on the Tony Blackburn show" |
| master marathon runner 15.12.2014 01:31 |
The berk regularly slagged them off in the 70's, he resented having them on the radio 1 playlist. . Also, I remember Elvis Costello tearing into them on radio, saying to the effect, : "I wish Queen would just disappear into a hole" and when told that Queen fans wouldn't approve of such a remark, retorted: "I wish their fans would fall into the hole with them" There now. |
| brENsKi 15.12.2014 01:34 |
Comedy Gold |
| Pingfah 15.12.2014 05:54 |
Tony's a good mate of mine. He told me he actually has grown to like Queen quite a bit, but he heard Gerry is a complete prick so decided not to play his track. |
| gerry 15.12.2014 06:00 |
ha ha you should be on stage with michael mcintyre pingfah ( another prick) |
| Vocal harmony 15.12.2014 06:18 |
master marathon runner wrote: The berk regularly slagged them off in the 70's, he resented having them on the radio 1 playlist. . Also, I remember Elvis Costello tearing into them on radio, saying to the effect, : "I wish Queen would just disappear into a hole" and when told that Queen fans wouldn't approve of such a remark, retorted: "I wish their fans would fall into the hole with them" There now.I remember Costello being interviewed on R1 saying Queen were a talentless bunch of Geeks. Of course put into context his skills as a guitarist, singer and song writer far outstrips anything Queen could achieve! What a goof. |
| gerry 15.12.2014 06:24 |
yes i remember that on Radio 1 i think he was reviewing the weeks new singles and Queen had "Save me" just released, and Costello was so rude slagging Queen off. To be honest there was a lot of jealousy there! |
| master marathon runner 15.12.2014 06:33 |
How he got to stand there on the Big O's black and white night, with all those legends, ill never know. He was probably part o' the catering and just sneaked onto stage. |
| miraclesteinway 15.12.2014 07:13 |
You know, this is something that probably deserves a separate thread on a different forum, but there is a tendency for some musicians, particularly those working in rock and pop (and all the genres that encompasses - urban, dance, hip hop, folk rock, whatever) to have a blind spot for other genres. I don't know why this happens. It can happen with Jazz musicians and Classical musicians too, but if I'm being honest in my experience it happens less with Classical musicians (not necessarily Classical music lovers, different things) who tend to be more open to getting their hands dirty with all types of music and tend to enjoy all genres. You get hip hop and dance artists who are producing records, for instance, and they've never even seen a musical instrument in the flesh - only a plug-in on the mac, and many singers wouldn't even know which end to blow down the piano..... Then there is the tendency for practitioners of one genre to say that their's is the superior genre. This sad fact happens ALL the time. A producer who shall remain nameless told me once that there are many in the music industry - people working in studios, producers, engineers, singers, promoters, who approach people with real talent with a great deal of suspicion - people who could sit down at a piano and read through a Beethoven sonata (no mean feat) are feared and pushed out, while people who know how to programme the cymbal on a pro tools session are lauded as talented, when in fact that is a technical rather than musical skill. He also let me into the secret that much of what we hear as a whole song is quite often a bunch of loop samples, studio transposition, auto tune, and that even an artist like Adele very rarely sings the whole song through in one take (he cited her, that's why this producer will remain nameless), and rather the piano part is punched in on pro tools and looped, with each chord change being a copy paste into a different key, and the chorus is looped and tweaked to sound slightly different each time. It actually upsets me when I think about bands and artists who slog away at getting it right the old fashioned way, and that don't sound as 'perfect' (read - sterile) as the studio productions and are told they're rough sounding. We now think that quantised tracks are music, and performed music is incorrect or sloppy. Sorry, didn't mean to vent all that here. But we're Queen fans. We understand all this! |
| brENsKi 15.12.2014 07:51 |
loving the New World Order we have here in Qzone - ruled by stepfords who decree that: Anyone who doesn't like queen and dares to voice their opinion as such is an arsehole, prick, c*nt...you name it. It'd be a crazy fucked up world if everyone liked every band...and boring to boot. I'm sure members of queen have openly "not liked" artists or bands and i don't hear anyone here calling Roger, Brian, freddie or John a prick. |
| Vocal harmony 15.12.2014 07:55 |
^^^^ very true. So much of the recording industry has become a production line. I visited a producer friend of mine, now semi retired, while he was editing drum tracks to a metal album. The band weren't in the studio, he had the live take, part real drums part triggered samples. Because of the speed of the double Bass Drums most of the bass had to be removed so that the clarity of each hit could be heard, ending up with a mid range thud. The floor toms had more Bass in them. The problem is/was that pro tools reacted in a certain way to that level in the sound spectrum. The next step was to bring the Bass Drums, Hihat and snare into perfect counts so that everything was hit on a perfect measure. In effect taking out the human element and natural swing that good drummers have. He explained the whole process would take about 12 hours before starting a similar thing with the Bass. The reason for this was that at the time, about 8 years ago it was fashionable for recorded speed metal rhythm sections to sound as tight and rigid as a dance music loop. As he said the whole thing was laughable because no one could play live like that because people are not machines. A guess it was a case of studio technology, which was developed to help, becoming the driving force by which the music would be judged by fans and press alike. |
| miraclesteinway 15.12.2014 08:45 |
brEnski, I don't agree that anyone who doesn't like Queen is an a***hole etc, but I would find it unlikely that anyone here on Queenzone doesn't actually like Queen.... I think what I was also trying to say is, that it's possible to appreciate someones music even if you don't particularly like it. Like, you can appreciate why other people like it, be it whether it's touching, or whether it is in the realms of greatness, or whether it's about its simplicity, or whatever. For instance, I understand and appreciate why people think John Lennon was so great, I know Freddie liked him, I understand all the elements of his music, I appreciate some of it, I even quite enjoy some of the songs, but in general I don't want to listen to John Lennon, I wouldn't choose it - his music, in general, doesn't appeal to me. Don't know why. I'm probably a prick for thinking that, too! |
| gerry 15.12.2014 09:11 |
Everyone mainly has a favourite Beatles song or Abba song and Queen song, but Tony Blackburn has such a narrow mind that he does not want to know Queen in any shape or form and the arrogance of the man to even say in one of his books that he hated Queen and could not understand why people liked them? Many people in the uk consider Queen as Legends and as Disc jockey you would think Blackburn would have more respect, but on a sundays he has a radio show where he keeps telling everyone all the music is from his own fabulous personal music collection, but many people send in requests for there favourite songs and Blackburn plays them, so i thought i would test the waters, and my suspicions were confirmed after 2 weeks of Blackburn blanking half of my text message, Txt Message 1 : Hi Tony could please play me a Queen song as i am a huge fan and miss freddie! Blackburn: Just got a txt of Gerry and he wants me to play him something! Txt Message 2 : Hi Tony could you play me a Queen record? Blackburn: Just got a message from Gerry, Hi. I am not amused by Blackburns constant ignorance, and he is so full of himself he plays what he wants to listen too, hardly a request show is it? |
| brENsKi 15.12.2014 09:44 |
miraclesteinway wrote: I think what I was also trying to say is, that it's possible to appreciate someones music even if you don't particularly like it. Like, you can appreciate why other people like it, be it whether it's touching, or whether it is in the realms of greatness, or whether it's about its simplicity, or whatever. Don't know why. I'm probably a prick for thinking that, too!no you're certainly not a prick. i wasn't having a dig at you. for me, i can understand that someone might not like a band and even not get why others like the same band. it's one of those things if you don't get it, then you don't get it. what i can't stand is people who say "oh **** - they're shit" - that's a nothing comment. Blackburn and Costello never said that. their comments were in the former category. It's amazing tho' how someone can be hated for not liking/getting a band - how petty on the part of the stepfords. As for Gerry's comments : gerry wrote: Txt Message 1 : Hi Tony could please play me a Queen song as i am a huge fan and miss freddie! Blackburn: Just got a txt of Gerry and he wants me to play him something! Txt Message 2 : Hi Tony could you play me a Queen record? Blackburn: Just got a message from Gerry, Hi. I am not amused by Blackburns constant ignorance, and he is so full of himself he plays what he wants to listen too, hardly a request show is it?he hasn't ignored you. in fact, if you give the guy his due, he's acknowledged you TWICE - which is more than the thousands who text every day will get. |
| gerry 15.12.2014 11:09 |
I disagree here because answering my text and ignoring what i wanted to hear is worse than ignoring the text completely. It is after all a request show so even though Blackburn hates Queen, he could have been more decent and played what i the listener texted in for a Queen tune. |
| Oscar J 15.12.2014 11:21 |
Cute signature gerry. |
| gerry 15.12.2014 12:05 |
yes i know oscar, cute just like me lol |
| brENsKi 15.12.2014 12:05 |
gerry wrote: I disagree here because answering my text and ignoring what i wanted to hear is worse than ignoring the text completely. It is after all a request show so even though Blackburn hates Queen, he could have been more decent and played what i the listener texted in for a Queen tune.or you could look at it and say "hey at least the guy read my name out" |
| gerry 15.12.2014 12:09 |
Yes he read my name out knowingly he would hack me off by ignoring the request lol Some one texted for a Beatles tune and got it played straight away, i was fuming i can tell you. Blackburn is a cunt. |
| brENsKi 15.12.2014 12:10 |
and Gerry - I can't speak for Jefffabiano, but i will say that if by "bullying" you mean: string cohesive arguments together to discredit rubbish "shactoids" - then guilty as charged. You should remember ONE thing tho: I have never started any hate campaign against you, and I have certainly not started "hate" threads against you. Funny wasn't it that NO-ONE supported your thread? Finally, I have never threatened people with violence - YOU have done this to several people here. |
| gerry 15.12.2014 12:30 |
No you have just been sarcastic, rude, and disrespectful to MY opinions on here, always having a pop at me, and winding me up. Funny if you ever me i am sure you would like me as a person. |
| gerry 15.12.2014 12:31 |
sorry keypad playing up again, i meant to say if you ever met me you would like me as a person. |
| brENsKi 15.12.2014 13:33 |
gerry wrote: No you have just been sarcastic, rude, and disrespectful to MY opinions on here, always having a pop at me, and winding me up. sorry keypad playing up again, i meant to say if you ever met me you would like me as a person.no. i wouldn't. i don't single YOU out - i say the same thing to anyone who'd say similar things. your whole ethos is based on "if someone disagrees with you they're a bully" - despite that person proving you factually incorrect time and time and time again. you then resort to starting "hate- threads" against that person. added to that the fact that you make sweeping statements whose origins are based on whatever fanciful "shactoid" spins from your mind...without any actual evidence or sound reasoning to back up your claims. when you base your entire existence round here) on the above - and bear in mind it's not just me you have "called out" - you called Bob "Real wanker" for some time...you've also had set-tos with Casper, Vocal Harmony, Inu_liger and too many others to mention. So you see Gerry, while it's theoretically possible that we could be at fault - there's ONE common denominator - YOU. I've yet to see you admit to ever getting anything wrong - rather you deflect or redirect your argument and then swear at whoever proves you wrong. So as i said at the top of this post - No. I really couldn't. Well certainly not the current YOU that frequents this place. How bad must things be when even Jeffabiano is better behaved than you? Genuine apologies for the sermon - but it ALL needed saying, and was desperately long overdue. Food for thought? I doubt you'll take any of this or other similar comments (from others) on board, and actually do anything about it. btw - Blackburn is a c*nt - but NOT for any of the reasons YOU cite. He's a c*nt because he is. btwbtw - Declan Macmanus isn't a c*nt - he's an extremely articulate man and a great song'writer/poet. His comment at the time was typical of all young punk/new wave artists flailing against the establishment and the art-school music. It's not like freddie/roger/brian never said anything controversial just to get noticed is it? |
| The King Of Rhye 15.12.2014 14:06 |
somehow I don't imagine that a DJ with a background in soul music, and a punk/new wave singer are the most likely people to be Queen fans anyway.....lol great post btw Brenski.........(you bully you)........... Maybe I should start calling Brian a prick because he didn't answer the letter I sent him a month ago............ |
| Band Forever 15.12.2014 15:53 |
Johnny Marr, Elvis Costello haha!! Music dull as dishwater and vocals make a zombie appear on the lively side. |
| master marathon runner 15.12.2014 17:59 |
First rule of professionalism: don't slag off other artists. |
| gerry 16.12.2014 05:13 |
Brenski: Firstly i only attack someone on here if they start first like YOU have many many times, and you have said to other people on here that you like winding me up, you are also very self opinionated and as i said before you only value YOUR own views and everyone else's opinions are questioned and slated. Frankly just because others have followed your disgusting behaviour of calling me petty names just proves what a immature bunch of guys you lot really are. You were the first to start this bullying campaign against me, just because you disagreed with MY personal views, to which i am very entitled to express in any shape or form on here. Just get over yourself and the most sensible approach is to just not reply to ANY of my threads again and grow up. You come across as a neurotic bunny boiler, who thrives on the limelight on this site, and as for saying jeffabiano is better behaved than me on here have you seen some of his posts on here telling everyone to fuck off etc....... now i know you have lost the plot. You do not know anything about me, you just assume oh Gerry is an idiot because that is the trend on here to make believe that i am, but it is un-true. Ok i sometimes get facts a little wrong( 40 years of Queen history is a long time) but i am not any worse off than anyone else on here. Also you do tend to get very aggressive with your posts, so you need to work on that anger in your composing of posts on here. Just before i go, Tony Blackburn is well known for been a cunt, especially through his ignorance of ignoring Great Rock groups, he is all wrapped up in his narrow minded world of motown and soul music. Also Janice Long admitted on Radio ones round table that reviews the weeks new singles (back in 1984) that she hated Queen while reviewing "Its a hard life" but we always knew she had terrible taste in music! So now i have had my day in court with you, please start to think before you type and lets try to get on yeah? We are all suppose to be Queen fans even though we all bicker, at the end of the day we love those 4 guys. |
| inu-liger 16.12.2014 05:42 |
"Ok i sometimes get facts a little wrong" A "little"??? Try, a LOT! How sad that an indirect admission like this is your biggest admission to date where it concerns all the times you've been wrong and called out for it by many people here. "but i am not any worse off than anyone else on here." Factually incorrect, and also a very obvious exercise in trying to distract and shift blame onto others at the same time. |
| inu-liger 16.12.2014 05:45 |
"you just assume oh Gerry is an idiot because that is the trend on here to make believe that i am, but it is un-true." No, we assume you're an idiot because of the image you set for yourself, with your narcissistic, jump-the-gun aggressive attitude towards everybody who has ever dared even to disagree with you, and your inability to back down and cop to the obvious bullshit pointed out to you, time over and over again by SEVERAL users on QZ. How long is it going to take you to realize this? |
| flash00. 16.12.2014 06:05 |
Next time phone in a request for Cliff Richard or something from Rolf Harris's back catalogue |
| gerry 16.12.2014 07:17 |
Inu-liger: There is always two sides to a coin and your just agreeing with your pals on here, just to get your self respect which is pretty pathetic. If i was so bad then everyone who has ever used Queenzone would have a pop at me but its quite strange it is awlays the same clique of people who slag me off on here, so really the seven of you should change the record and grow up, immature juveniles. |
| Band Forever 16.12.2014 08:34 |
Brenski - 'Fountain of All Bullshit' I am sick of his negative views on this Forum about Queen and how they stack up against other artists in his narrow minded view. If you want to go and blow your smoke up some other artists ass feel free but I believe the Record buying public have judged with their £££- $$$ - Euros or whatever. Facts The numbers do not lie Queen are the World's leading Rock Band, and Freddie is regularly polled as the leading vocalist in the Rock/Pop category. So what is your issue? Small Man Syndrome? I am on your side Gerry. |
| The King Of Rhye 16.12.2014 09:03 |
Band Forever wrote: Facts The numbers do not lie Queen are the World's leading Rock BandShow us these numbers, please. I am looking at link at the moment....... Okay, if you narrow it down to 'rock bands', they're fifth......behind the Beatles, Zep, Floyd, and AC/DC..... By no means am I trying to be negative about Queen here.....they're (obviously!) my favorite musical artist of all time.....I just realize they're not quite the biggest thing in the universe.... (actually I'm surprised they're ahead of the Stones!) |
| gerry 16.12.2014 09:39 |
Band forever: Thanks for your comments and i must say at long last someone who is intelligent enough on here to read through Brenski and inu-ligers crap and arrogance. Its nice to know that some of us really do appreciate Freddie and not just say he is "one" of our favourites, he should be your number one if your on the Queenzone. Queen with Freddie are a bigger group in terms of talent than Beatles, Rolling Stones, Zep, Floyd, and the rest............. Queen 1971 to 1991 rocked ! |
| Mr.Mouth 16.12.2014 09:53 |
What is all that insults and words about Gerry and Fabbiano, What did they do? Sorry for not catching up but I think we all Queen fans must be together in good or bad... Did I miss something? Dunno ,just dont like arguing and hate to each other. I wonder what you all guys (friends) think of me?? |
| Vocal harmony 16.12.2014 10:01 |
gerry wrote:[/ Queen with Freddie are a bigger group in terms of talent than Beatles, Rolling Stones, Zep, Floyd, and the rest............. Queen 1971 to 1991 rocked !I would say they are equal to, but not better. In fact it could be argued that there are musicians in all those bands who are better then any member of Queen. |
| *goodco* 16.12.2014 11:02 |
the OP wrote: "Just get over yourself and the most sensible approach is to just not reply to ANY of my threads again " Yes. Do as the brick wall stated. Please. |
| The King Of Rhye 16.12.2014 11:12 |
gerry wrote: Queen with Freddie are a bigger group in terms of talent than Beatles, Rolling Stones, Zep, Floyd, and the rest.............okay, that's just your opinion.....I mean, who are you (or me or anyone else here) to judge exactly how talented bands such as that are? and I think there's more to it then citing how Freddie constantly tops polls for the greatest singer of all time.......there's songwriting talent, showmanship, etc, etc.......(both of which Freddie, and the rest of Queen in the case of songwriting, had in spades) Heck, I could argue that Rush is a more 'talented' band than Queen......Geddy Lee and Neil Peart both frequently top polls for the greatest bassist and drummer, respectively......(but they're still only my 2nd favorite band....hehe) |
| The King Of Rhye 16.12.2014 11:13 |
*goodco* wrote: the OP wrote: "Just get over yourself and the most sensible approach is to just not reply to ANY of my threads again " Yes. Do as the brick wall stated. Please.I'd probably would do that if I had any damn sense...........lol |
| The King Of Rhye 16.12.2014 11:15 |
Mr.Mouth wrote: What is all that insults and words about Gerry and Fabbiano,I really try not to be insulting........I just totally disagree with most of what gerry says............. |
| gerry 16.12.2014 11:32 |
The king of rhye: you are entitled to disagree with anyone you choose, that still does not make you a better person than me though! |
| master marathon runner 16.12.2014 11:38 |
...............and I practically AGREE with most of what Gerry sez. Some people can't handle the truth! |
| gerry 16.12.2014 11:42 |
vocal harmony: are you for real what you just said? Beatles, Stones, Zep, Rush, etc better musicians than Queen, your having a laugh. No one is greater than Brian May & Freddie is an outrageously amazing vocalist, and John Deacon is a very versatile Bass player and Finally Rogers drumming is second to none, a water tight four piece rock outfit, that knocks spots off everyone else around and rightly so. Queen blew everyone of those artists away at "Live Aid" and that included all the rest in the states! |
| The King Of Rhye 16.12.2014 12:21 |
gerry wrote: The king of rhye: you are entitled to disagree with anyone you choose, that still does not make you a better person than me though!Did I say that at any time?????? |
| BETA215 16.12.2014 12:26 |
Trolls everywhere... |
| The King Of Rhye 16.12.2014 12:37 |
gerry wrote: vocal harmony: are you for real what you just said? Beatles, Stones, Zep, Rush, etc better musicians than Queen, your having a laugh.You might be surprised how many people would think so........... |
| gerry 16.12.2014 12:45 |
Queen have always been the underdogs in Rock Music, and as such get forgotten in favour of Zeppelin, The Stones, AC/DC etc....... yet none of these groups have the charisma and elegance that Queen had. The Queen crest always looked splendid and it made a statement of royal, regal ,superior, glossy, perfection to outshine any group on the planet, Freddie knew they were the best. Where else could you find a group doing so much in styles of music from Rock, opera, disco, ballads, pop, etc...... you certainly would not see any major rock act in the world who would dare to do what Queen have done. Freddie pushed the boundaries and got the lads a good pedigree in "The Rock n Roll hall of fame"! |
| inu-liger 16.12.2014 16:02 |
gerry wrote: Inu-liger: There is always two sides to a coin and your [sic] just agreeing with your pals on here, just to get your self respect which is pretty pathetic.As always, you're far off the mark Gerry. I think you'll need Google Maps to point you back in the right direction at this point . There is only so much respect to be gained in the community here purely through ass kissing, and trust me when I say this from 14 years' experience on this board: You cannot get far with that. Although trying to point out the facts is like trying to penetrate an Iron Curtain when it comes to factually reasoning with you, I'm putting it out there once again why I have the respect I do in the community these days, in no particular order: •My research and contributions to websites such as Queen Vault and Queen Concerts (which unwittingly in turn earned me those previously mentioned credits in at least one publication and another upcoming publication I was made aware of privately), and more recently the Rare Shares YouTube channel. I've also shared some findings with Greg Brooks and Gary Taylor over the years. •The bootleg remastering work I organized on behalf of GT •Freely sharing my own bootlegs produced by myself in person (Queen + Adam Lambert, Queen Extravaganza, Queen - It's A Kinda Magic) •The editing & uploading help I have provided for several QZ regulars' bootleg recordings •Assisting with crowd funding and providing QC input on the "Queen Forever In Nederlands" documentary That may not be the complete list either, but this is what I can think of off the top of my head. What have you done along those lines to earn any credible respect, Gerry? (Hint: Pounding your stepford "Classic Queen" chest does not count!) The ball is in your court. |
| Oscar J 16.12.2014 16:15 |
Where can I hear your bootleg remasters? I've always felt that some EQ-ing could do wonders with many of the bootlegs out there. |
| inu-liger 16.12.2014 16:26 |
I don't have the links on me (currently out of the house), but we put out a previously unreleased audience tape for Earl's Court 1977 first night, as well as an alternative source for Hyde Park 1976. Pretty sure queenconcerts.com has the download links for them on their respective pages :) |
| gerry 17.12.2014 08:54 |
inu-liger : Sure you have your fingers in many pies, so you should know better than supporting Lambert over Freddie that is if you really are a Queen fan. my claim to fame is not in the technology vaults of Queen, i am just a very loyal fan over 41 years, and i have devoted my entire to Queen. I have always defended them when they got slagged off in the press and on tv, plus i have had quite a few articles in my local newspaper on Queen were journalists would come to my house and take photographs of my entire Queen collection, one piece which was printed in the newspaper had a heading of "Gerry goes Ga Ga over Queen! The whole city know i am nuts about Freddie. My closest link to Freddie was Wayne Sleep the ballet dancer, and he has told me wonderful things about Freddie and his wild parties! |
| The King Of Rhye 17.12.2014 09:09 |
Good lord............gerry, do you really think anyone HERE is "supporting Lambert over Freddie"??? And uh......what does that have to do with this discussion (if you can call it that) anyway?? |
| Oscar J 17.12.2014 09:10 |
gerry wrote: inu-liger : Sure you have your fingers in many pies, so you should know better than supporting Lambert over Freddie that is if you really are a Queen fan. my claim to fame is not in the technology vaults of Queen, i am just a very loyal fan over 41 years, and i have devoted my entire to Queen. I have always defended them when they got slagged off in the press and on tv, plus i have had quite a few articles in my local newspaper on Queen were journalists would come to my house and take photographs of my entire Queen collection, one piece which was printed in the newspaper had a heading of "Gerry goes Ga Ga over Queen! The whole city know i am nuts about Freddie. My closest link to Freddie was Wayne Sleep the ballet dancer, and he has told me wonderful things about Freddie and his wild parties! Would like a scan of that article if you don't mind! :) |
| gerry 17.12.2014 09:19 |
sorry i do not have a scanner! just me and my little laptop lol |
| BelfastQueenFan 17.12.2014 09:32 |
Who cares what any DJ thinks? They are all either twats or pedophiles. |
| ggo1 17.12.2014 10:40 |
BelfastQueenFan wrote Who cares what any DJ thinks? They are all either twats or pedophiles. Made me laugh as it's almost verifiably true. My wife and I were talking the other day about the DJ's in the 70's and we both always disliked Tony Blackburn and found him a little bit forced and creepy. But he hasn't ever been linked to operation YewTree, and does love his music so I suppose if having a massive ego and not liking Queen is his worst fault, that's not too bad. Lets be honest there's worse sins out there. Never liked his style though. I was always disappointed when he presented Top Of The Pops. |
| brENsKi 17.12.2014 11:20 |
gerry wrote: sorry i do not have a scanner! just me and my little laptop lolwell what about a camera? or a mobile phone? take a picture and upload it to Qzone failing that...your local library will have facility for you to this...or even failing that what's the name of the "local newspapers" that you've been in...we can go to their websites and download the articles from their archives - then some kind soul will upload it to Qzone for you. ps - don't call me a bully - i've really helped yOU here, providing FOUR ways that you can get the published stuff onto Qzone. |
| gerry 17.12.2014 12:10 |
Thank you Brenski very much appreciated, your close to your first green star lol |
| brENsKi 17.12.2014 16:25 |
gerry wrote:Thank you Brenski very much appreciated, your close to your first green star lolyes, but still no articles from you, and when i say "articles" it is YOU who said "a few articles" gerry wrote: plus i have had quite a few articles in my local newspaper on Queen were journalists would come to my house and take photographs of my entire Queen collection, one piece which was printed in the newspaper had a heading of "Gerry goes Ga Ga over Queen! !so which newspapers were you in, and when? also, i'm intrigued as to what was so fascinating about your collection. there's a guy on here who actually has rare acetates and reel-to-reels and i don't recall him being in any newspapers |
| ludwigs 17.12.2014 16:37 |
I smell cattle??? But Brenski..........he now has changed the timeline to............"I have chatted with Wayne Sleep"! Previously it was a 'friend' that 'knew' Wayne Sleep!! As has been mentioned Gezza.........proof?? Newspaper cuttings, articles??? You seem the type that would relish your achievements so....surely you have some archive of that?? Christ....my bro's and I have all our newspaper cutting from our 'pseudo-lame' claims to fame from the late '80's/early '90's when we were a gigging band. |
| inu-liger 17.12.2014 16:45 |
I have very little reason at this point to believe Gerry is even telling the truth with his newest claims. Narcissists higher up on the scale have a bigger tendency to lie about their achievements, and they usually evade or create new excuses when confronted about their claims. I have an in-law relative who is very much like this, and Gerry's behaviour bears a lot of similarities. Of course, I would love to be proven wrong, and unlike Gerry I WILL admit when I am actually wrong. Your bluff, Gerry. |
| brENsKi 17.12.2014 17:03 |
ludwigs wrote: I smell cattle??? As has been mentioned Gezza.........proof?? Newspaper cuttings, articles??? You seem the type that would relish your achievements so....surely you have some archive of that?? Christ....my bro's and I have all our newspaper cutting from our 'pseudo-lame' claims to fame from the late '80's/early '90's when we were a gigging band.absolutely! - you couldn't have put it better fella. he's an attention-seeking narcissist - and there's no doubt at all he'd: 1] not have kept copies, or 2] not be able to reply immediately quoting the dates and newspapers these "articles" appeared in from my own experience - i have two minor brushes with celebrity. i have an original Python script that their publishers sent me when i picked up on a error in one of their books, and I still have the article in the Daily Mail where my "exchange" with a prisoner was published. one other thing: he goes on about "his collection" of queen stuff...i can guarantee 100% that i've sold 20+ years ago stuff (from my own collection) that he (gezza) never even knew existed... |
| ludwigs 17.12.2014 17:07 |
David.................it's over to you...... |
| gerry 18.12.2014 04:33 |
HA Ha well your all full of christmas spirit bitching on about me! lol The article i mentioned is real, but why should i have to prove it by producing a scan on here? I have nothing to prove to anyone on here, so if its about brownie points then forget it i am more grown up than wanting to prove myself like a little school girl. Secondly i do not brag about everything like inu-liger, just to get folk to respect who i am. I am like marmite you either like me or you don't, simples. You will be surprised to know that i do know whats been available on Queen Brenski, have you forgotten i have been a fan 41 years! Ive got collectors stuff from Japan, China, USA, Etc... and i know and seen it all, so that squashes your limp claims that i have never seen things you had on Queen - wrong! i have master copies on Cd from news of the world, concentrating on seperate vocals and guitars , drums, bass on seperate tracks. |
| ludwigs 18.12.2014 05:34 |
gerry wrote: You will be surprised to know that i do know whats been available on Queen Brenski, have you forgotten i have been a fan 41 years! Ive got collectors stuff from Japan, China, USA, Etc... and i know and seen it all, so that squashes your limp claims that i have never seen things you had on Queen - wrong! i have master copies on Cd from news of the world, concentrating on seperate vocals and guitars , drums, bass on seperate tracks.I've also been a fan of then since'74 and was very, very avid until I grew into adulthood and became less immature. That's not to say I'm less of a fan - I went to concerts and bought the vinyl!! There are fans here that only got into them after Fred's demise and they know more about stuff than I do!!! Length of service doesn't make you more knowledgeable or even more of a fan due to this. Here's an analogy for ya: Guitarist A think's he is a better player cause he's played for 15 years. Guitarist B has only played for a year. Has to be true doesn't it?? Not at all.....! In 15 years, A has practised (read noodled) maybe 20 minutes here and there. B has put in proper practise, scrutinising his efforts and working on them to make them better. He puts in at least 2 hours 'proper, critical' time every day. Result - B is far better than A due to this. That's what we have here with the younger folk Gezza. It surprises me the amount of knowledge that members here have and haven't bragged about. So you have the pseudo-multi's on cd? 'Get Down Make Love' was leaked and there were the Rockband 'stems' that were released a few years ago. 'WWRY and Champs'. I doubt very much that you have anything more from NOTW. |
| Vocal harmony 18.12.2014 07:19 |
gerry wrote: vocal harmony: are you for real what you just said? Beatles, Stones, Zep, Rush, etc better musicians than Queen, your having a laugh. No one is greater than Brian May & Freddie is an outrageously amazing vocalist, and John Deacon is a very versatile Bass player and Finally Rogers drumming is second to none, a water tight four piece rock outfit, that knocks spots off everyone else around and rightly so. Queen blew everyone of those artists away at "Live Aid" and that included all the rest in the states! |
| Vocal harmony 18.12.2014 07:20 |
gerry wrote: vocal harmony: are you for real what you just said? Beatles, Stones, Zep, Rush, etc better musicians than Queen, your having a laugh. No one is greater than Brian May & Freddie is an outrageously amazing vocalist, and John Deacon is a very versatile Bass player and Finally Rogers drumming is second to none, a water tight four piece rock outfit, that knocks spots off everyone else around and rightly so. Queen blew everyone of those artists away at "Live Aid" and that included all the rest in the states! |
| brENsKi 18.12.2014 07:36 |
gerry wrote:I am like marmite you either like me or you don't, simples.er, not exactly. you're more like Dogshit - No one likes you. You will be surprised to know that i do know whats been available on Queen Brenski, have you forgotten i have been a fan 41 years! Ive got collectors stuff from Japan, China, USA, Etc... and i know and seen it all, so that squashes your limp claims that i have never seen things you had on Queen - wrong!go on then...impress us all - tell us what you have that you would call rare and what is the rarest original official release YOU own. gerry wrote:i have master copies on Cd from news of the world, concentrating on seperate vocals and guitars , drums, bass on seperate tracks.everyone has these...everyone with the internet and an interest in music. |
| *goodco* 18.12.2014 09:10 |
*goodco* wrote: the OP wrote: "Just get over yourself and the most sensible approach is to just not reply to ANY of my threads again " Yes. Do as the brick wall stated. Please.Once again, to the Seymours who continue to feed this: all you tend to do is lower yourselves to this level. Can you please stop? Please. Five pages of this, that could have ended after the initial post. |
| gerry 18.12.2014 09:12 |
I have all the japanese "Music Life" mags on Queen, i have all four original autographs, i do own a lot of bootlegs on CD, like" Ducksoup" "A night at the warehouse"..etc.. Dvds of "Hyde Park" 76 "Kampuchea 79 " etc..... too many to mention, rare T.shirts, 41 years of devotion and support just like many fans from around the globe! |
| gerry 18.12.2014 09:14 |
goodco: you have lowered your standards by replying too, pot kettle black lol |
| brENsKi 18.12.2014 09:33 |
gerry wrote:I have all the japanese "Music Life" mags on Queen, i have all four original autographs, i do own a lot of bootlegs on CD, like" Ducksoup" "A night at the warehouse"..etc.. Dvds of "Hyde Park" 76 "Kampuchea 79 " etc..... too many to mention, rare T.shirts, 41 years of devotion and support just like many fans from around the globe!you didn't really answer my question properly: brENsKi wrote: Go on then...impress us all - tell us what you have that you would call rare and what is the rarest original official release YOU own..unless you consider bootlegs as rare...in which case i you'll be in for a shock if you ever need to sell them. i used to have both Duck Soup and Warehouse on vinyl - and never considered either "rare" - they're bootlegs - ffs. i'll ask again...what is the rarest original official release you own? |
| gerry 18.12.2014 11:14 |
How about "The Hot space" sessions on cd? very rare and interesting to listen too. Bootlegs are valuable sources of collectors items, and i have seen them selling for huge amounts of cash. Records Collector in the past listed Queens bootlegs, and said they were very precious things to own. i do not own many official original releases only bootlegs whether on tape, Dvd or CD. The only official releases are those items like studio albums or Dvds like "Magic Years" which i have on Dvd. I could not tell you what the rarest item is that i have as all my collection is packed away at the moment, but i do have some lovely things on the band. |
| BETA215 18.12.2014 11:33 |
All you, my lovely load of turds, my dearest darlings from the candies world, can you stop replying this guy called Gerry? Please, for the love of your mothers and Richard. |
| gerry 18.12.2014 11:38 |
Beta215 If you have not noticed this is MY thread so if you dont like it then fuck off. |
| BETA215 18.12.2014 13:35 |
gerry wrote: Beta215 If you have not noticed this is MY thread so if you dont like it then fuck off.Shhhhhhhhhhhhh. |
| ludwigs 18.12.2014 15:33 |
gerry wrote: vocal harmony: are you for real what you just said? Beatles, Stones, Zep, Rush, etc better musicians than Queen, your having a laugh. No one is greater than Brian May & Freddie is an outrageously amazing vocalist, and John Deacon is a very versatile Bass player and Finally Rogers drumming is second to none, a water tight four piece rock outfit, that knocks spots off everyone else around and rightly so. Queen blew everyone of those artists away at "Live Aid" and that included all the rest in the states!Gezza.....I take it you don't play any instrument? (Maybe the skin-flute) This is just one example to negate your deluded views (even if you don't like the music - the musicianship far out-weighs Queen. Fact!!!) link The opener to a filmed gig. Prob not your thing?! Bass: Blows Deacy away Drums: Easily blows RT away Guitar: Solid, correct and he also plays keys with his feet!! Vox: Very solid - remember he's playing ridiculously tricky bass parts at the same time and also keyboards with his feet simultaneously (at the same time) This is just the concert opener! Listen to many, many bootlegs and you will find them this consistent for many, many, many years. Something Queen weren't!! Like I've said - If you can offer me up a similar musical/technical/consistent example then, I WOULD agree with you. This was just an example of one of the 'easier' pieces. |
| brENsKi 18.12.2014 16:16 |
agree 100% ^^^ - but you're kidding yourself if you think Gezza will agree. |
| ludwigs 18.12.2014 16:43 |
I know.... I'm banging my head already!! Rush.....never heard of them?? |
| brENsKi 18.12.2014 17:05 |
he's fucking heard of them but his ears have whatever the "ear" equivalent of myopia is - Earwax? |
| Holly2003 18.12.2014 17:08 |
I love Rush but ... Bass: Blows Deacy away. I disagree: Geddy's bass is much more prominent than in many Queen songs but that doesn't mean it's better. John is a classy bass player, who has composed and played many intricate and innovative bass lines. Drums: Easily blows RT away Peart is an awesome drummer and is technically better than Rog in his prime. However, they are stylistically very different, and it;s a bit unfair to compare them. Guitar: Solid, correct and he also plays keys with his feet!! Lifeson is great! He has composed and played some amazing, very innovative guitar solos. I find much of his playing more interesting to listen to than Brian's. That said, Brian's solos are known to tens of millions of people, so he has obviously made a connection that Lifeson hasn't been able to achieve, perhaps because some of his stuff is a bit inaccessible to a general audience. Again, it;s not like for like and a bit unfair to compare them. Vox: Very solid - remember he's playing ridiculously tricky bass parts at the same time and also keyboards with his feet simultaneously (at the same time) Geddy sings like a teenage girl lol! Fred is so far ahead of Geddy it;s unreal, and I say that as a fan of Rush and Geddy. And Fred played piano and sang, so he could multi-task too! |
| ludwigs 18.12.2014 17:58 |
Fair points indeed Holly. I'll concur to accept your views but....will disagree on my initial post for the reasons stated. Thanks very much for at least....some offer of discussion thus far. |
| Holly2003 18.12.2014 18:19 |
ludwigs wrote: Fair points indeed Holly. I'll concur to accept your views but....will disagree on my initial post for the reasons stated. Thanks very much for at least....some offer of discussion thus far.No probs. Thanks for the discussion too. |
| The King Of Rhye 18.12.2014 19:47 |
Holly2003 wrote: I love Rush but ... Bass: Blows Deacy away. I disagree: Geddy's bass is much more prominent than in many Queen songs but that doesn't mean it's better. John is a classy bass player, who has composed and played many intricate and innovative bass lines. Drums: Easily blows RT away Peart is an awesome drummer and is technically better than Rog in his prime. However, they are stylistically very different, and it;s a bit unfair to compare them.I'd say what you said about Peart and Taylor could be applied (maybe even better in that case!) to Lee and Deacon! John was never a 'lead' bass player (or probably didnt want to be!) the way Geddy was......they are both awesome bass players, I'd say........Geddy always gets all the accolades, but John should get way more credit than he does! (totally going off on a tangent but I've been looking up the ranges of various singers lately...due to a probably futile argument in another thread.....Adam Lambert's is just as high as Geddy Lee! lol) |
| BETA215 18.12.2014 21:00 |
Comment N° 100: Fac iu yerri. Guai donch iu gou uid ior mami end ran uwei? Arr iu nided? |
| gerry 19.12.2014 04:15 |
It is ridiculous to compare Queen to Rush. Queen have every single band member who have had massive hits and there professionalism is higher than most groups, plus Queen have achieved much more than rush, always innovators leading the pack! Queen are a better group than Rush, sheer technical brilliance and voted greatest rock group ever! Who cares if Geddy can screech louder than lambert , singing is not about high range, a cat can screech as loud as lambert, but its not been offered a job in Queen! |
| ludwigs 19.12.2014 05:29 |
gerry wrote: It is ridiculous to compare Queen to Rush. Queen have every single band member who have had massive hits and there professionalism is higher than most groups, plus Queen have achieved much more than rush, always innovators leading the pack! Queen are a better group than Rush, sheer technical brilliance and voted greatest rock group ever! Who cares if Geddy can screech louder than lambert , singing is not about high range, a cat can screech as loud as lambert, but its not been offered a job in Queen! Every member had massive hits?? Can you explain. I've been an ardent fan for 73 years and like I stated in a previous post - I'm not as knowledgeable as a hell of a lot. I'm guessing you mean within Queen -certainly not in solo projects. Queen are better through sheer technical brilliance? I guess you don't play any kind of instrument. Technically better??? One of the traits of Rush is their flawless technical prowess - this is a reason a lot of players don't play their stuff! Voted best rock group ever? I find polls quite silly really (even though the members of Rush have topped them many years over) and their styles of music cover many, many genres too. Even just before Fred's demise they weren't as big. Him dying really did up their profile and it almost 'seems' like people now say they love Queen purely cause it's cool to say so. You know, the ones who heard a copy of GH1 & 2, Talk to them about for example 'The Millionaire Waltz' and they'll look bemused. Gezza....all you feed off is journo-type sound-bites. Here's another factoid for ya: "Rush has released 24 gold records and 14 platinum records (including 3 multi-platinum), placing them third behind The Beatles and The Rolling Stones for the most consecutive gold or platinum studio albums by a rock band" I bet you've probably never heard any Rush stuff anyway? |
| inu-liger 19.12.2014 05:39 |
Don't bother, ludwigs. With the way his narcissism is, he'll never admit to any other band capable of being Queen's musical equal. |
| inu-liger 19.12.2014 05:48 |
inu-liger wrote: Narcissists higher up on the scale have a bigger tendency to lie about their achievements, and they usually evade or create new excuses when confronted about their claims. gerry wrote:The article i mentioned is real, but why should i have to prove it by producing a scan on here? I have nothing to prove to anyone on here, so if its about brownie points then forget it i am more grown up than wanting to prove myself like a little school girl.Thank you for completely validating what I said above. Secondly i do not brag about everything like inu-liger, just to get folk to respect who i am.Once again, way far off the mark old man. It was the work itself I did that earned the respect, not the so called bragging. Get your fucking facts straight for once and stop being an idiot. I am like marmite you either like me or you don't, simples.No shit. You're like the cheap dollar store brand that nobody will admit to ever liking, metaphorically speaking. You will be surprised to know that i do know whats been available on Queen Brenski, have you forgotten i have been a fan 41 years! Ive got collectors stuff from Japan, China, USA, Etc... and i know and seen it all, so that squashes your limp claims that i have never seen things you had on Queen - wrong!Now WHO was it that was just earlier accusing me of bragging for brownie points?? Pot meet kettle. i have master copies on Cd from news of the world, concentrating on seperate vocals and guitars , drums, bass on seperate tracks.Whoop dee frickin' doo. So does everybody else! Unless you've got the 24-track "Stone Cold Crazy" multi (or any other uncirculated multi for that matter), you're no more special than anybody else as far as the leaked multitracks are concerned. |
| brENsKi 19.12.2014 07:54 |
gerry wrote: It is ridiculous to compare Queen to Rush. Queen have every single band member who have had massive hits and there professionalism is higher than most groups, plus Queen have achieved much more than rush, always innovators leading the pack! Queen are a better group than Rush, sheer technical brilliance and voted greatest rock group ever!you're obviously never even bothered to give them a proper listen, have you? |
| Vocal harmony 19.12.2014 08:06 |
gerry wrote: It is ridiculous to compare Queen to Rush. Queen have every single band member who have had massive hits and there professionalism is higher than most groups, plus Queen have achieved much more than rush, always innovators leading the pack! Queen are a better group than Rush, sheer technical brilliance and voted greatest rock group ever! Who cares if Geddy can screech louder than lambert , singing is not about high range, a cat can screech as loud as lambert, but its not been offered a job in Queen!Are you serious! I would doubt Queen could play a third of what Rush have recorded. As musicians they are light years ahead of Queen. I notice you picked up on Geddy's voice, why don't you comment on his Bass and keyboard playing or his part in the sheer brilliance of writing. While on the subject of comparing musicians go and listen to how the west was won album by Led Zeppelin then come back and explain how Queen played better or at a higher level than them. . . . Or go and watch Pink Floyd live at Pompeii watch the over head shots of nick Mason and tell me RT was or is better. |
| Pingfah 19.12.2014 08:16 |
Rush are far more technically proficient players, at least as far as drums and bass goes. Possibly not guitar. I still far prefer Queen though, Rush just don't connect with me emotionally. |
| gerry 19.12.2014 08:30 |
vocal harmony: answer me this , if Rush are so good why have they not been named as the greatest rock group ever, because Queen have. Queen always seem to win this title time and time again as the greatest, blowing groups out of the water like Zep, Stones, Sabbath, Who, etc...... Freddies vocal talents could smash that lot hands down, and Brian May is the king of guitar hes god with the sounds he can make on that red special. Sorry but i disagree with you on that subject, Queen are un-touchable. |
| brENsKi 19.12.2014 08:42 |
gerry wrote:Sorry but i disagree with you on that subject, Queen are un-touchable.because you have never properly listened to Rush..or any other band for that matter...not properly. to you, a band is either queen (the greatest) or mere background noise. that level of musical myopia is blinding. Gerry, if you don't ever take notice of anything i ever say - please take this one comment on board: Give Rush. zep, Floyd, Purple and the Beatles a proper listen - not once for a song here and there...but repeated (at least half a dozen times per album - uninterrupted) The five i've named above merely scratch the "rock" surface....there's so much more Small faces, Clapton, Sabbath, CCR, Van Hagar, UFO, Rainbow and even later bands like KOL and Killers...give your ears (and mind a chance)...enjoy It's said that "ignorance is bliss", but your musical ignorance may make you "feel" contented with Queen...but you really are missing out on so much fella. |
| tomchristie22 19.12.2014 08:54 |
Popularity =/= quality. |
| brENsKi 19.12.2014 08:56 |
tomchristie22 wrote: Popularity =/= quality.i know. utterly bonkers, or what? |
| The King Of Rhye 19.12.2014 08:59 |
gerry wrote: vocal harmony: answer me this , if Rush are so good why have they not been named as the greatest rock group ever, because Queen have. Queen always seem to win this title time and time again as the greatest, blowing groups out of the water like Zep, Stones, Sabbath, Who, etc...... Freddies vocal talents could smash that lot hands down, and Brian May is the king of guitar hes god with the sounds he can make on that red special. Sorry but i disagree with you on that subject, Queen are un-touchable.Seems to me they weren't talking about 'the greatest band ever' (well, maybe you were, but thats totally subjective anyway, and I am not gonna argue with someone saying Queen is!) but, (like YOU said) the 'sheer technical brilliance' of Queen vs Rush...... Yeah, Freddie's better than Geddy Lee on vocals, fair enough, he's the best singer of all time........... Like I said before, Geddy Lee and Neil Peart are often cited as the best bassist and drummer in rock, respectively............(since you're so into polls and stuff) With all that said, they still dont top Queen as my favorite band............damn close tho...... Give Moving Pictures or 2112 a listen some time.........who knows, you might like em........:) |
| gerry 19.12.2014 09:42 |
Talking of good drummers, The sweet's Mick Tucker is brilliant and they are my second favourite group to Queen. Also i like Thin Lizzy but mostly the 45s they had out in the 70s and 80s. Remember when Queen when on tour with Thin Lizzy back in 1977 the tour was cleverly name the Queen Lizzy tour! |
| ludwigs 19.12.2014 10:45 |
gerry wrote: Talking of good drummers, The sweet's Mick Tucker is brilliant and they are my second favourite group to Queen.For once I agree with you Gez but.....he 'was'.( died in 2002 from luekemia) Are you really into them and all the albums or are you more of a Ballroom Blitz and the other bubble-gum hits? |
| gerry 19.12.2014 11:25 |
Firstly to inu-liger i was not bragging what i had in my Queen collection, because if you had bothered to read the posts on here Brenski asked what was in my personal collection you stupid little chav. ludwigs: Hi and yes i am a serious sweet fan and have all the albums on cd, they are better than floyd and rush put together! |
| The King Of Rhye 19.12.2014 12:02 |
gerry wrote: ludwigs: Hi and yes i am a serious sweet fan and have all the albums on cd, they are better than floyd and rush put together!I know its a matter of personal taste and all....... But its a good thing I wasnt eating or drinking anything when I read that comment, or I would have choked on it, or at least spit something all over the computer.......... I still wonder how much Rush you've really heard...... |
| brENsKi 19.12.2014 12:10 |
gerry wrote:ludwigs: Hi and yes i am a serious sweet fan and have all the albums on cd, they are better than floyd and rush put together!If you spent EVERY single minute of your spare time reading ...you still wouldn't (in your entire lifetime) read even 1/100th of 1% of ALL the books ever written that are worth reading. On average, books/novels/plays take approx 10-20 hrs actual reading time. Conversely, the average LP = 50mins = less than 10% "book time". Your blinkered approach to music is achieving less with music than most of us attain with books..You're only disadvantaging yourself fella. |
| inu-liger 19.12.2014 12:35 |
gerry wrote: if you had bothered to read the posts on here Brenski asked what was in my personal collection you stupid little chav.Kind of rich coming from a guy who's been proven wrong by several people here over and over because, wait for it, YOU have a track record of misreading posts and getting what people actually said completely wrong, if not inventing lies and putting words in peoples' mouths, you judgmental little man. |
| ludwigs 19.12.2014 14:01 |
The King Of Rhye wrote:Me too!!! Not at work tomorrow so just started on the first vodka and I am aghast at your statement Gezza.... I nearly spat it out in utter amazement.gerry wrote: ludwigs: Hi and yes i am a serious sweet fan and have all the albums on cd, they are better than floyd and rush put together!I know its a matter of personal taste and all....... But its a good thing I wasnt eating or drinking anything when I read that comment, or I would have choked on it, or at least spit something all over the computer.......... I still wonder how much Rush you've really heard...... What a ridiculous, inane, childish, brainless and.....just....STUPID thing to come out with. Look, I don't like the Stones or so many others that majorities like but I would not be so dumb to make such a half-brained statement that you have. If you had said - " They are better than Steps or Girls Aloud put together", then I could agree with you but c'mon. Have you listened to anything by either group? I'm not talking about 'Another Brick in the Wall' either. You lost ANY hope of credibility with that comment. Sir Gezza of Fog-on-the-Tyne - You still haven't answered my question. Do you or have you ever played a musical instrument. Please respond. I believe I know the answer already. |
| gerry 19.12.2014 14:41 |
yes i play drums, so your completely wrong about me, and i do not care a fig what you all think of me, i have my own musical tastes, so if i think Floyd, Rush, etc,,,,, are not worthy then that is my business and no one on here has a right on here to criticize me. I actually like the best groups, Beatles, Queen, Abba, The Sweet, Toto, Boston, all better than Rush, Floyd etc......... Now go and choke on that twigglet lol |
| inu-liger 19.12.2014 15:16 |
gerry wrote: i have my own musical tastes, so if i think Floyd, Rush, etc,,,,, are not worthy then that is my business and no one on here has a right on here to criticize me.Listen, If you only respected other people's tastes and left it at that instead of going further and talking trash about bands that are still very popular and highly relevant to the public even to this day, no-one would be criticizing you. You brought the criticism onto yourself because of your selfish, hateful narcissistic personality. Rarely anyone else who's dared to have similar opinions to yours has amassed so much criticism from the majority here, especially in such a short time, because most of them don't spew the kind of hateful vile that you bring to the table. Now man up, or shut up. You. Need. To. Change. Your. Ways. |
| ludwigs 19.12.2014 15:18 |
gerry wrote: yes i play drums, so your completely wrong about me, and i do not care a fig what you all think of me, i have my own musical tastes, so if i think Floyd, Rush, etc,,,,, are not worthy then that is my business and no one on here has a right on here to criticize me. I actually like the best groups, Beatles, Queen, Abba, The Sweet, Toto, Boston, all better than Rush, Floyd etc......... Now go and choke on that twigglet lolI WAS prepared to give you the benefit of doubt but.....I'm really not getting your blinkered views. I am now sure that we are speaking to a 'fanboy' who probably falls into the category that bestows at least 40% of the population! Research has determined that a selection of the country is classed as clinically stupid! That's all..... There's no more evidence required. Months of asinine, deluded and just plain STUPID mind-set and utterances. Beyond ever trying to have any reasonable discussion with you Gezza. You really are deluded. I pity you and those like you. There's just no reason to try to rationalise with a moron. |
| AlbaNo1 19.12.2014 15:21 |
Yes lets all get up the ar*se of some other rock bands to show we arent a "Stepford". |
| The King Of Rhye 19.12.2014 19:55 |
gerry wrote: and i do not care a fig what you all think of me,for your own sake, that's probably a good thing... so if i think Floyd, Rush, etc,,,,, are not worthy then that is my business and no one on here has a right on here to criticize me.its the friggin internet.......we can criticize whatever the heck we want..........like 99% of the internet is either porn or people criticizing something.... I actually like the best groups, Beatles, Queen, Abba, The Sweet, Toto, Boston, all better than Rush, Floyd etc......... Now go and choke on that twigglet lolIs there anybody that has ever said "I like these groups but they're not really that good"? And what in blue hell is a twigglet? |
| gerry 20.12.2014 03:03 |
INU-LIGER: You are so two faced, you talk of respecting other peoples tastes yet here you are slagging MY tastes and opinions, you need to grow up and understand we all have different tastes and ideas what is good and what is bad. still your only a bairn and have a lot of growing up to do Bless! |
| brENsKi 20.12.2014 03:12 |
Inu, I for one am relieved that our very own "Care in The Community Project" ^^^ is here bothering Qzone...imagine the damage he could do if he was released into the wild....scaring pigeons, shouting at shoppers, stopping traffic, basically destroying the infrastructural behaviours of normal society |
| inu-liger 20.12.2014 05:02 |
gerry wrote:you need to grow up and understand we all have different tastes and ideas what is good and what is bad.So much hypocrisy in there, it's giving me indigestion just reading it coming from you. |
| AlbaNo1 20.12.2014 05:17 |
Gerry is clearly the most effective wind up merchant in the history of the net. He thinks what he wants to think and isnt going to change any of his views yet theres a queue of evangelisers trying to set him straight. Quite incredible how everyone rises to it every time. |
| Vocal harmony 20.12.2014 05:51 |
gerry wrote: It is ridiculous to compare Queen to RushYes I agree 100% with this. Because Rush are far superior musicians than Queen and write and perform far more complex music with far deeper and more thought provoking lyrics (most of the time) than Queen ever have or could. I noticed you mentioned you are a drummer, I'm surprised from a musical/technical point you fail to see the vast distance between RT and Neil Peart. What drums do you own/ play? |
| AlbaNo1 20.12.2014 06:10 |
Hello? Is this a Rush site? Yes we all love interminable drum solos, the defining aspect of musicianship. Queen have plenty key and tempo changes in songs at times, whilst retaining pop sensibility and rock energy, exemplified in seemingly throwaway songs like Bicycle Race. Id suggest in terms of melody and harmony Queen are superior, assuming that falls under "musicianship". Lets create a new Forum category - Better Bands than Queen , and such matters can be discussed there. |
| Oscar J 20.12.2014 06:17 |
Vocal harmony wrote: Yes I agree 100% with this. Because Rush are far superior musicians than Queen and write and perform far more complex music with far deeper and more thought provoking lyrics (most of the time) than Queen ever have or could.¿Que? |
| brENsKi 20.12.2014 06:20 |
Vocal harmony wrote:he doesn't. and well you know it.gerry wrote:It is ridiculous to compare Queen to RushI noticed you mentioned you are a drummer, I'm surprised from a musical/technical point you fail to see the vast distance between RT and Neil Peart. What drums do you own/ play? this is just another gezza "shactoid" |
| gerry 20.12.2014 06:48 |
I am quite capable of seeing the difference between Neil Peart and Roger Taylor, for me Rogers style is way ahead of Pearts as it is more of a clear cut sound, not too heavy plenty of cymbals which gives Taylor his trade mark sound. I just play drums, plain and simple like any other drummer on the planet! |
| gerry 20.12.2014 09:22 |
Do you get it Brenski, inu-liger i do not care and never will what you think, so stamp your feet as much as you can bare, but i have opinions and thoughts and just because those thoughts and opinions are not in your favour you all toss your toys out of the pram, i tell the truth as it is, and the fact is Queen are a more accomplished band than Rush, they had Freddie Mercury for gods sake, and that takes some beating. Queen are also "Record Collectors" number one group, because everyone just loves them. Rush are just a run of the mill rock group, Queen are rock royalty, this makes them extra special ( especially when all four were together).If you can not get that into your thick heads then get off the site your no Queen fan. cheeeeeeeeeeeeerio ! |
| The King Of Rhye 20.12.2014 11:17 |
gerry wrote: I just play drums, plain and simple like any other drummer on the planet!Most drummers on this planet play drums of some particular brand, or so I thought.............. |
| AlbaNo1 20.12.2014 11:40 |
Why respond to that and not Gerrys semi- acceptable rationale for preferring RT to NP? |
| The King Of Rhye 20.12.2014 12:41 |
AlbaNo1 wrote: Why respond to that and not Gerrys semi- acceptable rationale for preferring RT to NP?Well, okay........I am not nor have never been a drummer, but anyway........I think Neil has a plenty 'clear cut' sound, along with plenty of cymbals, and plenty of every other part of his kit! But really, its another case like comparing John to Geddy on bass, I think.........different style of player, different style of music (well kind of in same general area, but Rush was obviously way more prog/rock.....and Roger never liked super-long drum solos, either!) Remember, by the way.........I said before even if I think that Rush are more technically proficient musicians than Queen, they're still not my favorite band! :D |
| Oscar J 20.12.2014 15:15 |
They might be more technically proficient as individuals (Peart is frequently said to be the best drummer in rock, nobody ever talks about Taylor), but I'm not sure their songs were as groundbreaking or creative as Queen's in their prime. |
| tomchristie22 20.12.2014 16:03 |
I'd put forward that Queen were better vocally - both with Freddie as lead singer, and in their harmony work. |
| Vocal harmony 21.12.2014 14:28 |
^^^ yeah as far as vocals go Queen were as good as it gets within popular music |