| WKMahlerMahlers.Com 31.10.2014 12:47 |
Hi, I downloaded Queen "Live At The Rainbow 1974" a little over a month ago and find it's really excellent for it's time regarding sound quality. Actually it sounds better than most live recordings such as KISS Alive!, Queen Live Killers, On Fire At The Bowl & Wembley 1986, Bruce Springsteen Live 75-85 & Live In NYC, Blackmore's Night Past Times With Good Company, Rush Exit Stage Left, Led Zeppelin The Song Remains The Same, Queen has a real winner with "Live At The Rainbow 1974" complete with not one but two full soundboard shows pre "Bohemian Rhapsody". My favorites are from Queens 2nd release entitled II, "Father To Son", "White Queen" & "Fairy Fellers Master Stroke". About Fairy Feller, I read online at a massive Queen fan site that the song was performed only once and did manage to hear the poor quality bootleg. How many times was "Fairy Feller" performed live and for how many years? I'd love to find a local band willing to perform early Queen, the first two albums and the only local band I can think of is a thrash metal band, Verscythe of New Bedford, MA USA, link The young bar band covered Dio's "The Last In Line", Journey's "Separate Ways" & Queensryches "Eyes Of A Stranger" but have a full length release as well and some of the songs are at their ReverbNation.Com page. If Queen of the present along with Adam Lambert actually do record new material, the three of them, Brian May, Roger Taylor & Adam Lambert could learn a thing or two from Verscythe, honestly. As for "Live At The Rainbow 1974", I can't place my ears/fingers on it, but despite the sound update recently, it still has a raw, energetic hungry sound to it, something lacking in other bands past and present, seriously. Freddie is at his peak and lets the music do the talking while Brian, Roger & John accompany Freddie through the hits and album favorites and do not rely on massive light rigging or synthesizers, just piano (occasionally), electric guitar, bass and drums along with superb backing vocals both Brian & Roger harmonize splendidly. Whoever their soudnman was back then, did a marvelous job capturing the band live in front of a place that isnt' that big of a club and certainly, a place Queen would soon stop performing in due to the popularity of "A Night At The Opera" 1975 & "Bohemian Rhapsody" & "You're My Best Friend". I often wonder why tracks like "The Night Comes Down" & "Funny How Love Is" were ignored live but alas, what Queen did manage to perform in concert surely is a pleasant earful, you won't be disappointed. W. K. Mahler, Mahlers.Com |
| Toon_86 31.10.2014 13:23 |
Did you pay for it, or obtain illegally? |
| ANAGRAMER 31.10.2014 13:27 |
He probably stole it. Just like the other tracks he has passed judgement on lately.... |
| BETA215 31.10.2014 13:35 |
Sorry, but I have to remember you about AutoTune, Melodyne and overdubs. November concert: Some people at the Stormtroopers In Stilletos exhibition said that this concert was awful. Maybe that's why in the first release (VHS), this concert was full of studio overdubs? Maybe this concert was awful (or bad, not awful), and they had to use this kind of programs and tricks to make it "perfect"? And now they use better programs? March concert: Excellent, magnificient, extraordinarious, wonderful, etc. I only miss the sadly lost video footage. A total shame... Can you imagine if that 16mm tape had The Fairy Feller's Master-Stroke full? Or Great King Rat? Or See What A Fool I've Been? Or White Queen? |
| GaryMcUK 31.10.2014 17:44 |
Compared to many other live albums recorded in this era (Kiss, Springsteen et al, all of which have a very thin sound) the sound is much fuller on the Rainbow concerts, however the CD version has been mastered very loud. When I first listened to it in the car, I didn't appreciate how bad it was but on my hifi you can clearly hear it's too loud and spoils a good recording. So an excellent recording ruined by poor mastering, hopefully the LP version will be better as you can't master that loud with vinyl. |
| WKMahlerMahlers.Com 31.10.2014 18:36 |
GaryMcUK...I beg to differ about Live At The Rainbow 1974...it by far is the best sounding live gig Queen has ever released. Miles better than "Live Killers, "Live At Wembley 1986", "Live In Rio", "Live In Montreal" & "On Fire At The Bowl". Live At The Rainbow is raw and at its basic track best, despite tweaking of late by Brian & Roger before it was recently released. As for the bands performance, they sound better on Live At The Rainbow than any other period of their live official releases as a performing band. The next best sounding and best live performance is probably "Live Killers" version of "Now I'm Here" (my favorite Queen live song of all time too.) The only nagging question about Live At The Rainbow is "Fairy Fellers Master Stroke"...I read way back during the late 90's that "Fairy Feller" had only been performed live once for it was too complicated to perform. I managed to hear that performance too ala a poor quality mp3/boot and sad to say, Queen couldn't pull it off... So until Live At The Rainbow, I thought "Fairy Feller" was left on "II", never to be included in the live set... My question is..how many times did "Fairy Feller" actually get performed live? My first thought about Live At The Rainbow 1974 was that someone else sang "Fairy Feller", as in impersonated Freddie and Brian & Roger had no problem doing it either but upon close listening, no doubt the singer is Freddie... |
| tomchristie22 31.10.2014 18:59 |
Lol of course it's Queen playing that version of Fairy Feller. QPL aren't THAT stupid and deceitful.
It's likely that they played it a few times in 1974 - those with more specific knowledge will be able to clarify properly.
You cited 'The Song Remains the Same' in the original post as an example of an inferior live mix. 'How the West Was Won' is much fuller and stronger.
BETA215 wrote: November concert: Some people at the Stormtroopers In Stilletos exhibition said that this concert was awful. Maybe that's why in the first release (VHS), this concert was full of studio overdubs? Maybe this concert was awful (or bad, not awful), and they had to use this kind of programs and tricks to make it "perfect"? And now they use better programs? March concert: Excellent, magnificient, extraordinarious, wonderful, etc. I only miss the sadly lost video footage. A total shame... Can you imagine if that 16mm tape had The Fairy Feller's Master-Stroke full? Or Great King Rat? Or See What A Fool I've Been? Or White Queen?I doubt the November concert was 'awful' in its unaltered form - if it was truly unimpressive, it couldn't be fixed by just slightly adjusting flat and sharp notes like they did. Then again, maybe the worst stuff is masked by the original overdubs which they retained. Both concerts are rife with pitch correction, either way - the state of this release and how it compares to what people would have heard on the night is something I'm really interested in. If only we had an audience recording to determine what's overdubbed and what isn't, what comes from which night, etc. |
| GaryMcUK 31.10.2014 22:32 |
WKMahlerMahlers.Com wrote: GaryMcUK...I beg to differ about Live At The Rainbow 1974...it by far is the best sounding live gig Queen has ever released. Miles better than "Live Killers, "Live At Wembley 1986", "Live In Rio", "Live In Montreal" & "On Fire At The Bowl".Beg to differ on what? I never said whether it was or wasn't the best sounding Queen concert. I said the CD has been mastered too loud. This has a direct effect on sound quality. Both of these are statements of fact, it would have sounded better if it hadn't been mastered too loud. You can check out how loud it was mastered in the DR Database (Google it) and if you also type 'loudness war' into Google you can get full explanation on why it is a problem. I recommend Youtube videos on the subject. |
| WKMahlerMahlers.Com 31.10.2014 23:43 |
make an impact on the current state of rock and roll, I think it's time for a lead singer with a clear track record as a uk and usa collision a happening of hope mainly, queen + steve perry, don't stop believing open arms separate ways precious time when you love a woman, this guy is not busy at all but made himself public not too long ago after a long and private scenario he knows best, I'm writing of none other than former journey front man and currently free soprano steve perry. I'm busy but willing to read your artistic side, tha is ifya r creative writer, you do read? i did, but now an author critic at rollingstone.com earlier along with queen, steve perry, kiss and bruce springsteen twitter, facebook, alt.music.queen, alt.music.journey, rec.music.artists.kiss, rec.music.artists.springsteen via link acousticharmonies-subscribe@yahoogroups.com or link for more info about public discussion into a broader range of topics? perhaps windows 7 tech support, audio and video conversion, lyricism, poetry overload raw unedited published have you any idea what is life beyond a piece of paper pen into social media? its' where it's at for me for now, no one seems to respect much more than hip hop and candy pop i suppose since mtv video music awards of this year & ascap music publishing co circa 2003? that's me and what I'm currently doing other than landscaping or real estate or photography or generally, surely there's something to do with perry and queen? any other bright ideas? its a sure usa mass production on a Gillette stadium tour if and I think it's the only team that can really do Freddie mercury justice here in the united states. |
| Oscar J 01.11.2014 05:20 |
Que? |