| Dave2843 16.10.2014 13:25 |
Had a look at the new BBC Genome website, not sure if anyone is aware of a BBC Radio 3 Series from 1974 that featured Freddie and Brian. Here is a link link Just thought i would post, may be of interest to some. Cheers. |
| cmsdrums 16.10.2014 14:49 |
Cheers - interesting. John Harris and Cozy Powell too.... |
| The Real Wizard 16.10.2014 19:48 |
Fascinating. In fact, I think I may have this on a cassette somewhere. It's just labeled as "1974 radio interview" .. and it certainly wasn't in the US at that time. I'll have to dig and find this. |
| gerry 17.10.2014 14:14 |
Never heard that interview before, but i was only 10 years old to be honest but nice of you to have made me aware of that broadcast Dave. |
| Dave2843 17.10.2014 14:34 |
No problem, lets hope they will appear one day. it would be great to hear them. |
| gerry 18.10.2014 02:29 |
i have a few versions of "silver salmon" on a rare Queen cd, "silver salmon" is Queen at there heavy period in there careers but as good as it is i am glad it was dropped because it was raw and had no Queen trade marks to it. "Feelings Feelings" on the other hand is a much better track and my Favourite obscure track ever! Find it on "News of the world" (Delux version) which came out a few years back! |
| brENsKi 18.10.2014 09:21 |
gerry wrote: i have a few versions of "silver salmon" on a rare Queen cd, "silver salmon" is Queen at there heavy period in there careers but as good as it is i am glad it was dropped because it was raw and had no Queen trade marks to it.you really should give it a proper listen. it has loads of "queen trademarks" Freddie's intonation is very typical of the 73-77 period. Brian's playing has lots of his "stamp" all over it - especially songs like Doing All Right, Brighton rock, Son and Daughter and even bits of Sweet lady. Roger's drumming is very much like his NOTW Sheer heart Attack playing |
| gerry 18.10.2014 11:55 |
silver salmon sounds like a demo and that is why it never surfaced on to any Queen album. not good enough by Queen standards. |
| brENsKi 18.10.2014 13:03 |
all unfinished songs sound like demos (at best). LMIYHA was unfinished until now. there's no reason why SS couldn't be finished they dug out Mad The Swine and polished it to be the Bside of Headlong - from 18 yrs previous!!!! Mad The Swine was supposed to be on the debut album - so no reason why songs like SS and Polar Bear couldn't be tidied up |
| gerry 18.10.2014 13:42 |
silver salmon has some sound production problems on it. Firstly it is such a thunderous noisy track, and lacks clarity. Queen would never touch that track ever! i am sure it was only a jam session anyway. |
| brENsKi 18.10.2014 14:07 |
you have no idea at all if they have multitracks for the song. if they do then tiding it up and tweaking some levels is a piece of cake. if you still don't get what i mean - have a listen to some of the Zeppelin bootlegs from different recording sessions - in particular "Antrabata" "Physical rarities" and "Studio daze" - some of the levels and sound quality is poor - but then if you listen to the companion disks released with the 2014 reissues - the sound quality is stunning. It's all down to what they actually have in the vaults - and what format the best recording is in. |
| gerry 18.10.2014 14:21 |
I do not think Dr. May would agree with you there! Silver Salmon is quite a messy track to listen too and frankly Brian would refuse point blank to even consider tidying the track up. We all know how stubborn Brian can be! |
| brENsKi 18.10.2014 14:43 |
gerry wrote: I do not think Dr. May would agree with you there! Silver Salmon is quite a messy track to listen too and frankly Brian would refuse point blank to even consider tidying the track up. We all know how stubborn Brian can be!you have to listen beyond the messiness. if there's a multitrack then there's nothing that can't be fixed with pro tools. you could end up with something that has an early queen rock feel |
| gerry 18.10.2014 15:10 |
well to be honest if it was going to happen it would have by now, as Brian says there is no more worth while tracks to work on, so this track will never see the light of day on a commercial level, sadly. I always thought that track "I guess wer'e falling out" would get worked on but so far has not. |
| brENsKi 18.10.2014 15:34 |
gerry wrote: well to be honest if it was going to happen it would have by now, as Brian says there is no more worth while tracks to work on, so this track will never see the light of day on a commercial level, sadly. I always thought that track "I guess wer'e falling out" would get worked on but so far has not.Gerry, Brian said that same self thing ten years ago. Then in 2011 - the reissues have a smattering of "previously unreleased tracks". Now three years later, 3 "previously unreleased tracks" and the "Rainbow concert" the point is - they won't release it all in one go - it's financial suicide. and secondly, of course they have to say "that's all folks" that's what makes "completest fans" buy this stuff. at some point, Dog With a Bone, hangman, Polar Bear, Silver Salmon and the rest will see official light of day - they're possibly part of Brian/Roger & John's kids' kids pension funds... just keep the faith. |
| gerry 19.10.2014 03:45 |
I do not think Brian or Roger are short of a few quid having a 40 year career, and that is why they are so stubborn to give us the best of Queens jewels. Secondly they are too busy to work on more tracks kicked by the way side, as Madam Lambert seems to be taking there free time up, to be thinking of us ardent Queenies who have supported them for over 40 years, that thought seems to be discarded with Brian and Roger. But...... you never know as you pointed out maybe some songs could generally get a polish and may be fit for release soon, if the guys take another look whats in the bag! |
| brENsKi 19.10.2014 05:12 |
if you think about it in the context of the two surviving member of Queen being possibly the more rock-inclined of the band then the surviving unreleased tunes could make a pretty good rock album - in the truer sense of the genre: Dog With a Bone Hangman Polar Bear Silver Salmon Grand Dame Affairs New York Face It Alone Robbery Self Made Man Obviously the caveat for me is - from multitracks and workable stuff existing. People don't need to get all uppity where freddie only sung one complete verse - loads of songs have one verse repeated over, and also Queen did a vocal 3-way with let Me Live. Factor in an "Abbey Rd-syle" medley of the bits n scraps - and you could have a gem of an album So on the basis of this - i'd buy the above album |
| cmsdrums 19.10.2014 05:15 |
Greg Brooks recently confirmed that on any projects requiring archive work, he pulls together some options to put to the likes of Justin Shirley-Smith, and then he then decides what gets as far as the band. In other words, Greg will sometimes edit the list at the the first stage if he thinks JSS won't think it worthy, and then JSS edits the possible list again based on his experience or personal feelings as to whether the band would either consider it. As a result, it is very feasible that Brian, Roger and Jim don't actually know the full extent of demos or I worked and discarded tracks, so sadly what we do actually get is in reality as much a choice of others in the 'Queen machine'. |
| gerry 19.10.2014 05:23 |
justin shirley-smith died this year. |
| cmi 19.10.2014 07:28 |
^ check your info source, dude! Dave Richards died this year. |
| gerry 19.10.2014 08:41 |
Yes David Richards passed away this year, but i did read on Brians web site sometime ago that justin shirley smith had also passed away but i can not find any info on this. sorry. |
| popy 19.10.2014 18:03 |
Of course you can't find any info about JSS death. It didn't happen. |
| Apocalipsis_Darko 19.10.2014 18:55 |
How can I hear this interview? Or read. |
| The Real Wizard 20.10.2014 01:39 |
brENsKi wrote: at some point, Dog With a Bone, hangman, Polar Bear, Silver Salmon and the rest will see official light of dayI honestly hope not. Two of those songs suck, and possibly three if you're not feeling overly generous. There's a good reason why most unreleased songs are unreleased. Six unreleased songs from 1988-90 have leaked and 4-5 of them aren't great. It took them almost 20 years to put out a new song with Freddie vocals. The well is dry. It's time to move on. |
| inu-liger 20.10.2014 02:08 |
"Dog With A Bone" was never intended to be a serious song to begin with. I don't get why people think it's worthy of the same professional album treatment as the new songs on QF for instance. |
| gerry 20.10.2014 04:19 |
Inu-liger: when you try to hard making a song you end up with crap, but "Dog with a bone" was a fan club song but it sounds so great and fresh so worthy of an official release, love the Queen backing vocals and sounds like they are having a great time. loooooooooooooove it! (Better than the michael jackson crap on the new album) |
| Doga 20.10.2014 05:36 |
gerry wrote: Inu-liger: when you try to hard making a song you end up with crap,Bohemian Rhapsody disagree with you. The March of the Black Queen disagree with you... wait, the entre '70s catalogue of Queen but Sleeping in the Sidewalk disagree with you. And that's only Queen, let's listen Echoes, A Saurceful of Secrets, Kashmir... The Sex Pistols agree with you, big time. |
| Oscar J 20.10.2014 11:41 |
Dog with a bone does suck, but Hangman certainly doesn't. Polar Bear sounds much better with Tim Staffels stunning vocals on it. |
| brENsKi 20.10.2014 13:11 |
The Real Wizard wrote:i did put a caveat on this. which, for me, qualifies them for releasebrENsKi wrote: at some point, Dog With a Bone, hangman, Polar Bear, Silver Salmon and the rest will see official light of dayI honestly hope not. Two of those songs suck, and possibly three if you're not feeling overly generous. There's a good reason why most unreleased songs are unreleased. Six unreleased songs from 1988-90 have leaked and 4-5 of them aren't great. It took them almost 20 years to put out a new song with Freddie vocals. The well is dry. It's time to move on. |
| inu-liger 20.10.2014 15:13 |
gerry wrote:Inu-liger: when you try to hard making a song you end up with crapYou obviously have no songwriting experience |
| musicland munich 20.10.2014 19:06 |
inu-liger wrote:In the mid 90's I simply ripped off some of Nirvana songs/riffs...it was easy.gerry wrote:Inu-liger: when you try to hard making a song you end up with crapYou obviously have no songwriting experience |
| inu-liger 20.10.2014 19:28 |
Anyone can rip off Nirvana musically. Lyrically however is a different story. |
| musicland munich 20.10.2014 22:36 |
^ true but the rust belt of Munich isn't Seattle and to start a heroin addiction with a constant suicide wish is a bit much, just to write better lyrics. Anyway, it just was "hip" to sound like them in those days.Same goes for for Soundgarden, Faith No More, RATM and a few others. |