| mickyparise 09.04.2014 21:08 |
Even as Freddie Mercury was fighting for his life, he worked on Queen music. The hope was always, it seemed, that something could be made of these final musical moments. But, as Brian May remembers, it wasn’t always easy. At the turn of the 1990s, Mercury had become noticeably thinner as he battled AIDS. By 1991, he was gone — but Mercury was determined to give all that he could, right up until the end. That moment finally came as the duo was at work on one last unfinished song. May fed lines to a struggling Mercury, who would stop only for a moment of liquid courage before battling on. “I would write a verse down, and sing it to him,” May tells Herman Grech, “because the song wasn’t really written at that time. And for each line, he did four takes. And then we’d write another verse. And he would be like, ‘Give me a vodka.’ That gave him his strength. After another shot, he’s say: ‘Give me more lyrics. More, more more. I want to do this.’ He was completely focused. He knew that he wouldn’t be there that long.” This session was about one month before Mercury succumbed. The resulting track, titled “Mother Love,” would eventually appear on 1995's posthumous Made in Heaven. “That was the last thing we ever did together,” May says. “Freddie was really quite ill. He would only have moments where he was OK, and he could prop himself up and sing. But he was eager to work. He loved to work. It was the thing that really made him smile.” link |
| musicland munich 10.04.2014 00:10 |
And there we go with just another version about his last recording session. Wasn't there a statement from "someone" related to Queen here on QZ, that his last session was in May 91'??? Well one way or the other it's sad to hear... |
| The Real Wizard 10.04.2014 00:32 |
That - and Brian had also recently said Freddie did three takes of each line, and not four. Which is it? |
| Stelios 10.04.2014 06:09 |
LAST SESSIONS: -Give me a vodka. -Give me more lyrics! -Now another vodka. -More lyrics,More lyrics!!! -Where is my VODKA???? -Lyrics. I WANT LYRICS!! ( ...poor Brian) |
| Martin Packer 10.04.2014 07:33 |
He could've said "several". I wonder when he'll say "five". :-) I suspect part of it was the potential need to "thicken up" what might've been quite thin at that point. And part of it to give choice in the mix. Anyone have a view on how many Freddies there are in Mother Love? |
| matt z 10.04.2014 07:35 |
Stelios wrote: LAST SESSIONS: -Give me a vodka. -Give me more lyrics! -Now another vodka. -More lyrics,More lyrics!!! -Where is my VODKA???? -Lyrics. I WANT LYRICS!! ( ...poor Brian)Considering he was practically consigned to death and apparently only "able" for a portion of a day (let's say 1-2 hours to be tough. .. 2-4 to be generous) I'd easily say sooner. ... "Poor Freddie. ... :'(" Poor both of them. I'm certain it troubled them immensely. Can't fathom the spirit it took to really accomplish what they did. Without all the gruesome details, I'm certain it was fun but probably very dispiriting in many ways. Makes you speculate particularly about John. |
| gerry 13.04.2014 07:08 |
Freddie was so brave and did not want the illness stopping him from making more music, how many people could do what freddie did dying? Such a wonderful inspiring guy was freddie, its just a shame The Made in Heaven album turned out to be such a dogs dinner, the secret track at the end was a waste of space and something mote palatable could have been put there. There was a few songs that were ok, and a few which were not up to Queen standards like "you dont fool me" Personally i loved "Hot Space" better. I found "Made in Heaven" to be sounding like the guys were not really enjoying themselves because they were just getting another batch of Queen songs out and that was it really. Still Freddie played a blinder in the condition that he was in and i am amazed he could actually get out of bed to attend the studio sessions, not many could do that! |
| The Real Wizard 13.04.2014 12:04 |
gerry wrote: how many people could do what freddie did dying?Many have - Joey Ramone, Warren Zevon, George Harrison, to name a few.. The Made in Heaven album turned out to be such a dogs dinner, the secret track at the end was a waste of space and something mote palatable could have been put there. There was a few songs that were ok, and a few which were not up to Queen standards like "you dont fool me" Personally i loved "Hot Space" better.Once again, you're revealing yourself to be a Freddie fan instead of a Queen fan. There is more depth in that last track than you can obviously grasp. "Queen standards" ? You think Action This Day is a better song than You Don't Fool Me ? I found "Made in Heaven" to be sounding like the guys were not really enjoying themselves because they were just getting another batch of Queen songs out and that was it really.How could they possibly enjoy themselves? They were working with their dead singer's leftover vocal tracks. You can't be bothered to peel yourself away from your self-imposed negativity and see the layers of what was going on. But you've always been a self-appointed expert on the inner workings of the band, so why am I even wasting my time ? |
| Vocal harmony 13.04.2014 12:50 |
The Real Wizard wrote:You forgot Frank Zappa.. . A true musical genius!gerry wrote: how many people could do what freddie did dying?Many have - Joey Ramone, Warren Zevon, George Harrison, to name a few.. Gerry, I think we all know the script now. Almost everything recorded after nov 91 isn't worth a jot. . In your world anyway. |
| gerry 13.04.2014 12:53 |
Real wizard: Im not revealing myself as a freddie fan i was merely stating what a courageous guy Freddie was, and having HIV and full blown aids and still able to stand and even speak at that time was incredible. Yes i do honestly think anything from Hot Space is more enjoyable than the shit at the end of Made in Heaven. Brian & Roger were obviously getting very tired by the time they came to the end of the album so made that weird track, which most Queen fans do not even rate. Freddies "Staying power" is more of a thrill to me than that last track on "made in heaven album". |
| gerry 13.04.2014 12:57 |
Vocal harmony: Everything in your world is not worth a jot after 1991, going by the artists you mentioned like, George Harrison, warren zevon, Frank Zappa, so please do not get bitchy! |
| musicland munich 13.04.2014 13:08 |
^If you like a more "pervert" comparison - look at KLAUS NOMI. He had full blown AIDS ( about eight month before his death) and performed three songs LIVE in Munich in December 82' and he was working on an album. Think of all the nameless people killed by AIDS... |
| Vocal harmony 13.04.2014 13:54 |
gerry wrote: Vocal harmony: Everything in your world is not worth a jot after 1991, going by the artists you mentioned like, George Harrison, warren zevon, Frank Zappa, so please do not get bitchy!Are you seriously trying to say that the likes of George Harrison and Frank Zappa ard not worthy musicians and composers. If you are it speaks volumes about your musical knowledge. . . . . . . Or total lack of it. |
| Martin Packer 13.04.2014 15:39 |
FWIW I immensely enjoy both Action This Day (but prefer Calling All Girls) and You Don't Fool Me. Talking of "Queen standard" is highly personal and subjective. |
| Iron Butterfly 13.04.2014 16:08 |
Such guts and determination. Never fails to amaze me. |
| Sheer Brass Neck 13.04.2014 19:21 |
To be fair to Gerry, no one is going to say that George Harrison, Warren Zevon and Joey Ramone's voices on their finally vocal tracks were even in the same dimension as Freddie's on Mother Love. In the same vain, no one is going to say that George Harrison, Warren Zevon and Joey Ramone's final songs were as craptacular as Mother Lover or the bulk of MIH so it's a draw. |
| gerry 14.04.2014 02:52 |
Sheer brass neck: Thanks for your comments, take no notice of "vocal harmony" he is one wind up merchant on here, and i treat him with the contempt he deserves! l.o.l I was trying to make a point that, who with HIV worked up to the last 4 weeks of there lives?? Freddie did and that in itself was spectacular. Many on here could not work with bad flu, but Freddie had HIV.(Think about it). |
| Stelios 14.04.2014 06:16 |
musicland munich wrote: ^If you like a more "pervert" comparison - look at KLAUS NOMI. He had full blown AIDS ( about eight month before his death) and performed three songs LIVE in Munich in December 82' and he was working on an album. Think of all the nameless people killed by AIDS...Since Klaus Nomi was mentioned i find his live performance here : link as almost the equivalent of Freddie's video performance on TATDaysOfOurLives. Both could hardly walk at that stage :-( |
| Vocal harmony 14.04.2014 08:06 |
gerry wrote: Sheer brass neck: Thanks for your comments, take no notice of "vocal harmony" he is one wind up merchant on here, and i treat him with the contempt he deserves! l.o.l I was trying to make a point that, who with HIV worked up to the last 4 weeks of there lives?? Freddie did and that in itself was spectacular. Many on here could not work with bad flu, but Freddie had HIV.(Think about it).Gerry in your world it would seem that anyone who you disagree with, you regard as a wind up merchant. . . . I will allow your miss quote of what I actually said. I guess you needed to do that to re enforce what you were trying to say. The fact remains that other people have been in the same situation as FM and continued to produce their art. I wasn't pointing out the lack of brilliance on Freddies part, as you appear to have tried to do with the other named artists. On the subject of MIH it's a great album, which if you use you brain as well as your ears takes you on a journey, in the way that great albums used to and Hot Space didn't |
| gerry 14.04.2014 10:53 |
vocal harmony: Everyone views the "made in Heaven" album in there own way but for me that last track did not mean anything musical or enjoyable to me. They you go again patronising me saying "use your brain" If i was high on cocaine then i may have said " Oh that last track is mint" but i really can not get into it. Its the worst thing ever that Queen has recorded. Now if you do not like me refusing your ideas of "great" then thats tough! Jog on! |
| gerry 14.04.2014 10:53 |
vocal harmony: Everyone views the "made in Heaven" album in there own way but for me that last track did not mean anything musical or enjoyable to me. They you go again patronising me saying "use your brain" If i was high on cocaine then i may have said " Oh that last track is mint" but i really can not get into it. Its the worst thing ever that Queen has recorded. Now if you do not like me refusing your ideas of "great" then thats tough! Jog on! |
| The Real Wizard 14.04.2014 21:18 |
gerry wrote: Sheer brass neck: Thanks for your comments, take no notice of "vocal harmony" he is one wind up merchant on here, and i treat him with the contempt he deserves! l.o.lYou are such a dick. You are completely unable to have a sane, reasonable exchange with anyone who doesn't completely agree with you on something. "Vocal harmony" in any single post has added more productivity to chatter here than you have in your 200+ posts combined. I'm not wrong. If I am, someone will jump to your rescue. Or you can just live in denial. I pity you.. |
| Sheer Brass Neck 14.04.2014 22:19 |
FWIW, I was commenting on vocals and music, and not supporting or slamming anyone. I think VH is a totally decent person whose contributions are always thoughtful and well intentioned. Never ever think of him as a wind up merchant. |
| gerry 15.04.2014 04:19 |
Real wizard: i never started this debate because it was "vocal harmony" who got sarcastic in one of his limp posts, he always has a dig, so i gave him his pedigree. i have never said anything bad on this page or topic. please dont have a go at me sunshine because you dont know me, and dont call me a dick because you are no better than anyone else on here shit head. You think you better than me, well your not, your just a jumped up opinionated arse hole. |
| ludwigs 15.04.2014 05:06 |
gerry wrote: i have never said anything bad on this page or topic.. gerry wrote:please dont have a go at me sunshine because you dont know me, and dont call me a dick because you are no better than anyone else on here shit head. You think you better than me, well your not, your just a jumped up opinionated arse hole.Of course you haven't! You are so easy to read. As quite a few have mentioned already, your 'level' of rationality and adult replies are indeed quite elementary. |
| gerry 15.04.2014 07:58 |
You can all think what you want, but your all the same bullying me for expressing my opinions and i have not called anyone because it was "Vocal Harmony" that had a dig at me, just because i expressed MY opinion, Its ok when you lot express your opinions but oh forbid Gerry can not express his views, you lot are so narrow minded. if you do NOT like what i say then keep the fuck out of my face or i will be reporting you all for bullying me. |
| TomP63 15.04.2014 09:42 |
Gerry, don't be a plonker.........no-one is bullying you, it is more the case that some folks here disagree with you. Vocal harmony is the person who answer you straightforward and with a good solid argument. Still you can only accept this as bullying. Sorry there, again, I have to disagree, I can't see any bulying here |
| Vocal harmony 15.04.2014 10:01 |
Real Wizard and Sheer Brass Neck, thank you. Ludwigs, that's so true Gerry, Cocaine, FM's Drug of choice, is the last thing you need to be on to listen to or understand that last track. When I said use your ears and brain I was talking about listening to the whole album, and hearing the journey it takes you on. I wasn't talking about just one track. Yes we all have a choice as to what we listen to and what we think is good. I like Hot Space, but i think MIH is a better album, the only Queen album I don't like is the works, although as individual songs I like some of what's on it. Does that make me right right or wrong, of couse not. But if I was to say The Works is crap or single out a musician or artist I don't like and call them crap, rubbish, shit or what ever based on the reasoning that I don't like them, that would be a very small minded view of reality, but one, it would appear, that you are happy to associate yourself with. |
| gerry 15.04.2014 10:38 |
Vocal Harmony: its not bad to have an opinion other wise we would all have cardboard personalities, for instance Roger Taylor has always expressed that he hates Barry White and that he hated the video for "Its a hard life" does that make him another Gerry to get slated on Queenzone then?? |
| gerry 15.04.2014 10:46 |
tomp63: Everything i say on here gets slated, no one takes my side, i get called everything from "simple" to "narrow minded" yet it is my insatiable right to express my views, even though the obvious tossers on here like a scrap with me. Yet i do not bully them just express what i think on any given situation. We are all suppose to be adults on here yet at times " real wizard" "vocal harmony" "Brenski" etc... go on like a pack of wilder beast charging at anything i say or express. Where is the fairness in that? |
| TomP63 15.04.2014 11:00 |
Well Gerry, the fairness in that is my friend, it is all an opinion, a matter of use your good sense. I don't think that you are that far off in your replies, but sometimes you do re-act on the person who really give a valid answer. You tend to think and react for that matter as it is directly pointed at you, as person. It is a good thing to defend Queen, or Mercury with all your heart as you do, but don't forget that people will respond on that in a manner you dislike. |
| The Real Wizard 15.04.2014 11:04 |
gerry wrote: tomp63: Everything i say on here gets slated, no one takes my side, i get called everything from "simple" to "narrow minded" yet it is my insatiable right to express my views, even though the obvious tossers on here like a scrap with me. Yet i do not bully them just express what i think on any given situation. We are all suppose to be adults on here yet at times " real wizard" "vocal harmony" "Brenski" etc... go on like a pack of wilder beast charging at anything i say or express. Where is the fairness in that?Because a) most things you express are juvenile opinions that you present as if they were fact, and b) you equate people disagreeing with you as bullying. You are extremely (and easily) argumentative and small-minded, and you are the only person who can't see it. See the attachment.. |
| gerry 15.04.2014 11:14 |
Real Wizard: They you go again, always judging me and looking down your nose at me. no one is asking YOU to make any contribution on here so just stay out of it. I do not want you poking your snout in if your going to be bitchy and nasty. If you do not agree with what i say then shut the fuck up. |
| Vocal harmony 15.04.2014 11:32 |
Lol great attachment Mr Wizard. Gerry. . . Read the last line of your last post, then try to convince everyone on here that this is a forum on which everyone is free to have an opinion. And everything you have written on here is valid and mature. . . I think after that last statement, by you, you are now clinging on to a sheer rock face by your finger nails with no safety rope and no one to help you back up. |
| gerry 15.04.2014 12:03 |
vocal harmony: i do not ask anyone on here to reply to my posts so why do you need to keep on replying? i will tell you why because you just want the sheer hell of it to cause me grief and argue. well i am not biting. your the one who is not mature. i am grown up and mature because i refuse to carry on wasting my time with all of you on here. There are many Queen fans i am sure who will tell you that been very opinionated does not mean you are right. As i said to the other muppets on here if you dont like what you read, jog on. |
| Vocal harmony 15.04.2014 12:38 |
It's a forum. People will always reply or have an opinion. Or do you really think this entire site is a platform from which you can say what ever you like, with no one having an answer to what your saying. You really need to grow up! As regard to you "not biting". You just did by replying in your usual negative way. And yes being very opinionated doesn't make you right. . . . . Re read your comment there, as it apples to you as much as anyone. In fact more so than a lot on here. You're so focused on being right you're tying your self in knots. |
| gerry 15.04.2014 12:50 |
Theres a difference here, were other people do not get slagged off for expressing what they feel where you clearly have to pull me up at every corner. im not having it and im getting pretty annoyed now. just go away and fucking die cos im tired of all this bitching. im a Queen fan and i do not need to be analysed from from front to back by the likes of you or anyone else on this site. who do you think you are god? My comments are as good as everybody elses on here. you chose to slag them off because its you who can not get your thick head round what i am saying. your prob not mine. |
| The Real Wizard 15.04.2014 14:11 |
gerry wrote: because you just want the sheer hell of it to cause me grief and argue.Playing the victim card now. When you couldn't sink any lower.. You obviously don't see it, but you have the maturity and coping mechanisms of a 12 year old. Serious genuine human effort to reach out to you here - if your online persona in any way matches you in real life, I recommend you see a therapist. This can't be good for you. |
| The Real Wizard 15.04.2014 14:29 |
Stelios wrote:The difference is - Klaus Nomi sang live ! Mercury quit that over 3 years before his death.musicland munich wrote: ^If you like a more "pervert" comparison - look at KLAUS NOMI. He had full blown AIDS ( about eight month before his death) and performed three songs LIVE in Munich in December 82' and he was working on an album. Think of all the nameless people killed by AIDS...Since Klaus Nomi was mentioned i find his live performance here : link as almost the equivalent of Freddie's video performance on TATDaysOfOurLives. Both could hardly walk at that stage :-( What a monumental performance ! |
| Gregsynth 15.04.2014 14:33 |
That operatic countertenor... His falsetto is amazing! |
| ludwigs 15.04.2014 15:49 |
Gregsynth wrote: That operatic countertenor... His falsetto is amazing!Stop picking on me Gregsynth and the rest of yous..... Freddie is the king and I will let my head explode if anybody offers any sensible and less sycophantic 'press soundbites' ok??? My friend once knew the dachshund that pissed on the 3rd cousins front wall of someone that once asked Wayne Sleep the time - so I am someway related to Fred. OK yous lots of bullies!! Now, get your trainers and..........'Jog on' cause I won't be arguing with any of yous anymore. Nope, that's my final word on the matter yous bunch of bullying twats. Well, until someone replies in an articulate and sensible way. ;-) |
| gerry 16.04.2014 04:18 |
Real wizard: i guess your right i could not sink any lower, replying to such a bunch of pricks on here, you been the biggest of them all. You do not know me in real life but i bet you would get a big shock if you did! Your all very good hiding behind your computers but i am sure you would not have the courage to meet me. Your no better than silly girls using face book, bullying and calling me all sorts and saying things like i need "therapy" and i am like a 12 year old, very pathetic! You and your "limp calling pals" on here need to get a life. All my posts on here offer the other side of the argument but because you have not got a brain, you automatically dismiss what i say, because your always right no matter what. Everyone has to agree with you because your a bully and guess what i am not scared of you and all your bitching. bring it on knob. |
| Vocal harmony 16.04.2014 08:55 |
gerry wrote: Real wizard: i guess your right i could not sink any lower, replying to such a bunch of pricks on here, you been the biggest of them all. You do not know me in real life but i bet you would get a big shock if you did! Your all very good hiding behind your computers but i am sure you would not have the courage to meet me. Your no better than silly girls using face book, bullying and calling me all sorts and saying things like i need "therapy" and i am like a 12 year old, very pathetic! You and your "limp calling pals" on here need to get a life. All my posts on here offer the other side of the argument but because you have not got a brain, you automatically dismiss what i say, because your always right no matter what. Everyone has to agree with you because your a bully and guess what i am not scared of you and all your bitching. bring it on knob. |
| Vocal harmony 16.04.2014 09:56 |
Gerry Speaks. . . . "All my posts offer the other side of the argument Your all very good at hiding behind computers" what? Do you mean you're not doingvthe same thing? "Your a jumped up opinionated arse hole. . . . If you don't like what I say keep the fuck out of my face. . . . . If you don't agree with what I say shut the fuck up. . . . . . Go away and fucking die." . . . . . That's the other side of the argument, is it? Here he is Gerry the man with one brain cell, which he has yet to figure out how to operate, when he finds it. We would have a shock if we met you! Really! Why would that be? . .do you have four legs Three arms. Two heads and no brain are you from another planet, are you an unrecognised form of life, did you buy one of Freddies leotards, squeeze into it, find it was to small and can't remove it because it's so tight so you're forced to walk around in it all day, is it so tight that it slows the blood supply to you brain cell so your misfunctioning brain comes up with the crap you post. Do you have purple eyes, that would be a shock, do you have Freddie is god tattooed over your forehead, are you 18ft tall, are you 2 ft tall, are you John Deacon taking the piss out of us, , , come on tell us where waiting. . . Why would we be shocked? Wouldn't have the courage to meet you???? Ha ha ha. . . . Oh wait your Bruce Lee, Jack Chan, Mike Tyson. Jack the Ripper, Adolf Hitler. You're a 6ft 10in wrestler, The Undertaker, Kane. I'm running out of reasons who anyone would be shocked or scared. . . No wait. . Your screwed up reasoning, if anyone sits down and talks to you for more then 15 seconds their brain melts! You live in Newcastle don't you? They used to build ships and mine coal there didn't they, then you appeared and those two industries folded. . . Did you talk to people who worked in them, were you a secret weapon disguised as a Queen Fan who was planted to bring Newcastle to it's knees? Are you the most powerful force in the universe? To scared to meet you, Newcastle.Greys monument seems quite central lots of people so I'll be safe. If I go there on Saturday at 2pm I bet you won't have the guts to appear? Will you??????? |
| gerry 16.04.2014 11:24 |
vocal harmony: blah blah blah did you have to go to the library to find all those words or did you google them darling? now whos the prat on here now??? You have even upset folk from newcastle too what a complete tosser you really are. listen twat if you cant take it back do not dish it out ok. To be honest i cannot believe you are a real Queen fan insulting Freddie and john Deacon, your just a laugh a minute. you will have to have a rest after burning out that cell in your head mate, cos you do not seem very stable to me. Better still book your self in at the priory. |
| The Real Wizard 16.04.2014 11:34 |
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| gerry 16.04.2014 11:52 |
Ah here comes another arsehole in the shape of Real Wizard, well i would change you name to Real W**ker! never mind pet you may have a friend some day ha ha! |
| Vocal harmony 16.04.2014 12:06 |
The Real Wizard wrote:Like it! Gerry your an idiot. You've done it again, pulled the pin and chucked another grenade with another insult to someone vastly more intellectual then you. . . I take it you understand the meaning of the word. It hasn't gone un noticed that you avoided answering my offer to meet you, after all you made a point of saying none of would. Balls in your court, let's see what happens, shall we! |
| Vocal harmony 16.04.2014 12:12 |
Gerry further to my last post. I didn't insult Freddie or John. I didn't insult anyone in Newcastle, apart from you, but you laid a firm foundation in that respect, meaning you've insulted everyone with a differing opinion to you. You more than anyone are hiding behind a computer. . . . Think about it! |
| The Real Wizard 16.04.2014 13:19 |
gerry wrote: well i would change you name to Real W**ker!That actually has a nice ring to it. Somebody quote this post so it can be preserved for all eternity ! |
| gerry 16.04.2014 14:31 |
What makes you think i would want to meet someone as shallow minded as you lot? Give me some credit girls l.o.l And i do not live in Newcastle so stick that piece of info up your snitch losers! |
| Gregsynth 17.04.2014 02:26 |
The Real Wanker? LMFAO Sir GH was a cool name, The Real Wizard was regal. But.... The Real Wanker? That name is beyond either of those! |
| gerry 17.04.2014 04:57 |
Gregsynth: The real wa**er is better for that moron. when youve had so much shit of those three Brenski, vocal harmony and The real Wa**ker you do realise there is no hope for those charlatans. i challenge them to show there face s on here like i have. lets see who is really the man here? |
| Vocal harmony 17.04.2014 08:49 |
gerry wrote: Gregsynth: The real wa**er is better for that moron. when youve had so much shit of those three Brenski, vocal harmony and The real Wa**ker you do realise there is no hope for those charlatans. i challenge them to show there face s on here like i have. lets see who is really the man here?What does showing your face on here prove, and also what is there to prove that a photo posted is genuine . You nade a big thing about hiding behind computers and if we meet you we'd be shocked. It's all BS Geraldine. I'm quite willing to meet you, when I suggested it, you refused. Whether or not you live in Newcastle. I thought you lived there because it's where you said you saw Queen. Back to my point, you said we (I) wouldn't face you because I (we) hide behind my (our) computer(s) Wrong. I called your bluff. You ran, you hid behind your computer and that photo. |
| gerry 17.04.2014 11:31 |
vocal harmony: i have not hidden behind anything, i have had the guts to put my picture on here, what have you done buddy? just because i have seen Queen in Newcastle does not mean i live there. i have seen Queen in many places. And yes you lot do hide behind your computers like silly face book girls sniggering and running me down, wanna meet me in an alley way one night and run me down then? thought not! |
| The Real Wizard 17.04.2014 12:36 |
gerry wrote: wanna meet me in an alley way one night and run me down then? thought not!Elementary school bullying? Really? You're in your 40s? Posting your photo here doesn't give you some kind of rite of passage to superiority. It reveals you have no shame in revealing to anyone who comes here what a complete idiot looks like. |
| Vocal harmony 17.04.2014 12:50 |
The Real Wanker wrote:Well said Mr Wanker.gerry wrote: wanna meet me in an alley way one night and run me down then? thought not!It reveals you have no shame in revealing to anyone who comes here what a complete idiot looks like. Gerry you are an idiot. You posted on a different thread all the times you had seen Queen live, to prove to me what an amazing Queen fan you really are. Newcastle city Hall and St James Park. Lots of others were there. Well at the time your brain cell must have gone into overload and you forgot to list those "other venues" and dates. You made the point of saying that no one here would face you. I offered to meet you in a wide open public space . You ran a mile didn't you????? Well at least if that is your photo we, as Mr Wanker pointed out, now know what a real idiot looks like! |
| gerry 17.04.2014 13:09 |
Do not have to prove anything to you sunshine. where i go to see Queen is my business and nothing to do with you. oh excuse me sir if i have forgotton a few venues does that mean i am in detention sir? your the fucking idiot because your so frustrated because you cannot get one over on me ha ha. i really do not have time with small fries like you, so jog on back to your loose woman panel on here saddo. |
| The Real Wizard 17.04.2014 13:52 |
Furthermore, that picture is not actually of you and you know it. To add to your list of credentials, you're a compulsive liar now too. Everyone - let's just leave this buffoon alone. He's craving attention like a teenager and getting what he wants. |
| Mike G 17.04.2014 14:00 |
gerry wrote: Do not have to prove anything to you sunshine. where i go to see Queen is my business and nothing to do with you. oh excuse me sir if i have forgotton a few venues does that mean i am in detention sir? your the fucking idiot because your so frustrated because you cannot get one over on me ha ha. i really do not have time with small fries like you, so jog on back to your loose woman panel on here saddo.you're a Clown!...lol |
| gerry 18.04.2014 04:21 |
HA ha i am not the clown because you lot are, i have made you all squirm 4 pages long now, and you are that dense you could not refuse to answer back, how stupid is that? The photo on here is me, so would you like another one girls? |
| ludwigs 18.04.2014 05:46 |
The photo is of you? Looks like you're laying face down pillow crunching with a 'friend dressed up as Adam Lambert' seeing to you. Heard of the phrase "....the lady doth protest too much....?" Sir Gerry of Retardville........(just oot seed a New cattle man) You really ARE a simpleton. If you are going to lie and stuff then at least have the nous (look that one up - it's not French for 'we' either..) Do you post things up and then fail to remember what you had written? It's all there - just take a little time, scan back to your inane ramblings and try to digest it all. If you have the ability to do that then you would easily see that your actions, remarks and stuff are falling into easy to see traits of a complete idiot!! 'Wanker' has been quite reasonable to you and only tried to guide you with some advice. You then have a strop and then resort to 'name-calling'. When they retaliate or offer a sensible counter-opinion to yours, you kick off cause you aren't articulate enough..... Vocal Harmony and Brenski (other 'dogs' in our crew fishnizzle) have only come back with stuff after you started it all. You did, a while back (around the time when I called you Sir Gerry) tried to impress everyone with 'I'm a North-East lad....' like it's something for us all to be scared of?? I replied something, deriding you but, you never included me in with the 'trio-of-cunts' and that hurts!!!! The way I see it.....people that are suffering with a higher IQ or ability to be rational are seen as enemies. When they outwit you (not tricky) then you bend over like a submissive canine and then use words in a way that you were led to believe Freddie used.... Do you not see, he used 'darling' and stuff like that cause it was part of the persona he created. Sadly you can't see that side of him - only the hype that the press were fed ( by them/Queen). Sure, suck all that up if that's what you want to hold on to but the real Fred was different. Didn't Wayne Sleep not tell you this??? You frighten us all with your terrifying offers of meeting up with all of us pansies. Then 'Vocal Bell-end' (number 2 cunt of the trio) sounded you out and said he would be more than happy to. Then, 'you too' (no, that's not a noise an owl makes btw) shit-out. Now, you've had your machismo reinstated and you come across like 'He-Man' again calling everyone a Jessie. You are SO easy to read and as 'Utter Wanker' said - you really are essentially a simple idiot. You have shown us all that you are! Your genius flashes of rapier-wit (rapier is a type of sword, not what rohypnol users are doing to men and women) after a day or two of coming up with them are truly pathetic and lower-league. Childish. My 8 year old daughter could come up with much wittier retorts/quips than you......and I don't even have an 8 yr old daughter!!!!! |
| ludwigs 18.04.2014 05:49 |
oops........double post! |
| gerry 18.04.2014 07:00 |
Ludwigs: Its great that i am ruffling your feathers l.o.l you are one angry lassie ! You know as a Queen fan you do not know much about Freddie because he did call everyone "darling" even Brian May told everyone at the brit awards in 1992, when Freddie told him the put the award next to the "galileo lamp darling" Get your Queen facts straight mate! I did not start this war on here because it was "vocal harmony" that sarcastically said something about me not liking anything Queen related after 1991. So is it ok for him to get away with been nasty, yet when i defend myself i get called a loser and name caller, etc........ i do not regret what i have said on here to any of you lot. you got what you deserve. you treat me like crap and your going to get it back in the neck & big time. Thank vocal harmony for been a muppet and here we are 4 pages long, when this site is about Queen and not me. I will be the adult here as many of you are childish, and i will say i am not replying back to your juvenile posts. i am the bigger man here so dont forget that! |
| Chief Mouse 18.04.2014 07:19 |
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| ludwigs 18.04.2014 08:08 |
gerry wrote: Ludwigs: Its great that i am ruffling your feathers l.o.l you are one angry lassie ! You know as a Queen fan you do not know much about Freddie because he did call everyone "darling" even Brian May told everyone at the brit awards in 1992, when Freddie told him the put the award next to the "galileo lamp darling" Get your Queen facts straight mate! I did not start this war on here because it was "vocal harmony" that sarcastically said something about me not liking anything Queen related after 1991. So is it ok for him to get away with been nasty, yet when i defend myself i get called a loser and name caller, etc........ i do not regret what i have said on here to any of you lot. you got what you deserve. you treat me like crap and your going to get it back in the neck & big time. Thank vocal harmony for been a muppet and here we are 4 pages long, when this site is about Queen and not me. I will be the adult here as many of you are childish, and i will say i am not replying back to your juvenile posts. i am the bigger man here so dont forget that!Ruffled my feathers?? Hilarious. Angry??? Even more laughable! This place has NO impact on my life. I pop across to read - that's it. When some buffoon spouts crap then I sometimes try to say something but some people really are beyond some guidance. Oh yes, Brian too was part of the group Queen. Gotta keep the 'hype' going don'tcha reckon? You REALLY have sucked up all that stuff haven't you? Doesn't make you more of a true Q fan cause of that. Thing is, as kids we relish it all....then we grow up into adults, start a job, family mortgage etc and it means less. There are far better ways to 'defend' yourself. You, it seems, aren't articulate enough to offer a retort so you resort to name-calling etc. I too am not interested in anything since '91 either but it doesn't matter a jot to me if they continue doing what they want - getting newer fans and stuff. I couldn't give a damn what they choose. It bothers you a lot and you've confirmed that with your continued harping on about it. I'm quite sure you aren't as bigger man' as you say cause your character belies what you say. (See how I used a word from Save Me there? ;-) )You will be back adding inane responses.......... Get what we deserve? Ooh, now I'm not gonna sleep well tonight. God will atone my sins Gerry - C'mon, what could you possibly do that would worry me? |
| Mike G 18.04.2014 10:13 |
In this day and age, making threats over the internet is no joke...Be very Careful with that Jerry...I do agree that Adam Lambert or anybody for that matter is not a good choice for Brian And Roger...My Opinion is they should discontinue the Queen Name...But still play together as Brian and Roger...though, it's their band and doesn't make a difference in my life in anyway...Let's face it, As adults, we have bigger problems in the world to worry about...If they find enough material for another Queen album with Freddie, on par with Made In Heaven I'll be happy about that.... |
| gerry 18.04.2014 10:42 |
MikeG. Thanks for the post matey, i am sorry you had to read my posts but the guys behaviour on here has been appalling towards me, and if i had said what you said in your last post about adam lambert and Queen i would have been once again been accused of been almighty and opinionated, just because its me. you see according to these dweebs on here i cannot have my own opinions, isnt that sad? They have always got to hold the reigns and take control. but you are absolutley right about adam lambert he is a car crash for Queen. Nice to chat to a guy with a brain on here. |
| Vocal harmony 18.04.2014 12:39 |
Mike i kind of agree with you, however using the Queen name is what makes the difference between selling out arenas or playing to 2000 people in small venues each night. Gerry you just don't see it do you? Mike G has an opinion and made some valid points. But unlike you he hasn't needed to resort to insulting Adam Lambert, the fans who have bought tickets or tried to dictate to everyone including RT and BM what they should and shouldn't be doing. |
| gerry 18.04.2014 13:17 |
vocal harmony: everyone expresses things in a different light, my expressions are more deeper than mikes, i am very passionate of Queen 1971 to 1991 as you know and im kind of annoyed at what this group has become. just accept the way i come across man, stop fighting what is the essence of me. i am not gonna change to keep you or anyone else happy on this site. now stop fretting and chill out. |
| Mike G 18.04.2014 18:02 |
I had my share of over expressive moments, so I kind of get it....You been a fan since 1974, Do you have a Favorite Queen Album? |
| Mike G 18.04.2014 18:26 |
Vocal harmony wrote: Mike i kind of agree with you, however using the Queen name is what makes the difference between selling out arenas or playing to 2000 people in small venues each night. Gerry you just don't see it do you? Mike G has an opinion and made some valid points. But unlike you he hasn't needed to resort to insulting Adam Lambert, the fans who have bought tickets or tried to dictate to everyone including RT and BM what they should and shouldn't be doing.Listen, I went to the Queen/Paul Rodgers show and believe it or not was tempted too see them at the garden this summer...The problem is that I'm Just not a fan of Adam Lambert....I mean, I really don't like his style, so I'm skipping this show for that reason....I thought Paul was an odd choice and wasn't happy they kept the Queen name, but at least I had respect for Rodger's, he's a legend in his own right (though I'm not a big fan) and thought that was my last chance of seeing Brian and Roger Live....Queen's last tour in the states was 82, so I never got too see the original lineup...I'm only 42, my first show was Maiden in 85...The one thing I will say is that Brian and Roger look odd performing next to Adam...it almost looks sad. I'm not putting down Lambert, he's achieved more than I have in life, but I'm not fan at all... |
| The Real Wizard 18.04.2014 21:54 |
ludwigs wrote: I replied something, deriding you but, you never included me in with the 'trio-of-cunts' and that hurts!!!!May you never be excluded again, good sir. Welcome to the club. All the cool kids are here. |
| The Real Wizard 18.04.2014 22:02 |
gerry wrote: i am not gonna change to keep you or anyone else happy on this site.Indeed, you shouldn't have to, for that reason. But when a majority of people don't respond to you in a positive manner, maybe there is something in yourself worth changing? Nobody is static ... we should always be growing and evolving. So if you think you should have no need to change, then there's problem number one. |
| Another Roger (re) 19.04.2014 02:00 |
gerry wrote: Gregsynth: The real wa**er is better for that moron. when youve had so much shit of those three Brenski, vocal harmony and The real Wa**ker you do realise there is no hope for those charlatans. i challenge them to show there face s on here like i have. lets see who is really the man here?Whats your adress? |
| gerry 19.04.2014 03:12 |
Mike G. You asked what is my favourite Queen album, well that is such a painful question but i will give you my top 5 fav Queen albums. 1. A day at the races. 2. Queen 2 3. Sheer Heart Attack 4.News of the world 5. The Game. Worst Queen album for me is : Made in Heaven. Thanks for asking. |
| ludwigs 19.04.2014 03:51 |
gerry wrote: You asked what is my favourite Queen album, well that is such a painful question .Painful? Gezza, I am currently doing some more version 2's of some covers of songs. Some from ADATR. 'Long Away' is currently on the recording process and I will be filming a complete tutorial also for ALL the guitars used.... Have done Millionaire Waltz(the), YTMBA, STL, GOFLB, Drowse, You and I....in the past (about 8 years ago) My question is - Do you get annoyed that some people cover Queen songs, even tho I'm not Freddie? Obviously I don't do them for anything other than my own sense of transcribing achievements and stuff using the most basic (cheap) of materials/gear.There are many, many tutorials I have done on YT. Is that wrong?? You can check out MW on here but it was done many years ago and it is MUCH better now. I'd be interested to hear your views on this matter seeing as I am NOT in Queen....and can't sing as well as Adam Lambert. Am I also abusing the memory of Freddie?? |
| gerry 19.04.2014 05:43 |
Ludwig: No your not abusing the memory of Freddie Mercury, far from it and its good that you are doing tutorials. Do you find a lot of the Brian May orchestrations difficult to copy then, like on "lets us cling together"? I am a really huge fan of Rogers and the way he plays his drums, especially with that familiar Queen cymbl sound as it hits the beat with the drums, of course phil collins slagged roger off saying he used far too much cymbals on Queen tracks, which i think was utter rubbish, quite the opposite as collins is too heavy on the drums in my opinion. As the years went on roger used that Queeny cymbal sound a bit less on albums but he does use it live in concert. |
| Vocal harmony 19.04.2014 11:54 |
Gerry. There is no suggestion in this post that Ludwigs is abusing the memory of Freddie, because he isn't. But how can you come to that conclusion yet claim BM, RT and Al to be doingvjust that. If The Real Wanker or I or anyone else on QZ was to pick up an instrument and play a Queen song wher would we stand. Would we be abusing Freddie's memory or not. I just don't understand where you make he distinction between playing music and abusing a memory. How can two of the people who wrote those songs be accused of that, just by playing music? |
| gerry 19.04.2014 12:29 |
vocal harmony: Read ludwigs post again, he was asking me was he abusing freddies memory by doing tutorials on YT, and i said no. The difference here of course is that ludwig is not touring the world like lambert & Queen and making a dogs dinner of it all. what you do on yt is only a bit of fun, compared to making a fool of yourself on tour! |
| thomasquinn 32989 19.04.2014 13:02 |
And here's me thinking kdj2hot had some serious issues... Gerry - you have to be one of the greatest, most obnoxious, hypocritical whiners ever to breathe the air of this world. Stop it. Either the obnoxious hypocritical whining or the breathing the air of this world. Feel free to choose either as you please. |
| brENsKi 19.04.2014 13:40 |
gerry wrote: vocal harmony: Read ludwigs post again, he was asking me was he abusing freddies memory by doing tutorials on YT, and i said no. The difference here of course is that ludwig is not touring the world like lambert & Queen and making a dogs dinner of it all. what you do on yt is only a bit of fun, compared to making a fool of yourself on tour!as opposed to making a fool of yourself on here? think you got the copyright on that one |
| The Real Wizard 19.04.2014 17:05 |
gerry wrote: The difference here of course is that ludwig is not touring the world like lambert & Queen and making a dogs dinner of it all. what you do on yt is only a bit of fun, compared to making a fool of yourself on tour!We'll see who gets the last laugh - those who got to see Brian May at his best one last time, or those who stayed home and rubbed one out to an old DVD.. |
| inu-liger 19.04.2014 18:04 |
The Real Wanker wrote:Never mind he probably would not have had any intentions of showing it if I hadn't exposed it in the first place.gerry wrote: wanna meet me in an alley way one night and run me down then? thought not!Elementary school bullying? Really? You're in your 40s? Posting your photo here doesn't give you some kind of rite of passage to superiority. It reveals you have no shame in revealing to anyone who comes here what a complete idiot looks like. |
| ludwigs 20.04.2014 03:28 |
Gerry, Gez, Jez, Jezza, Jizza..... What if (hypothetically) that I accepted the offers that I got from YT about getting paid for posting up my tutorials? Would that have altered your perspective at all? Would you deem me in a different light cause I chose to accept THEIR offer? I refuse only cause I know what it's like wanting to learn a song etc and I'm quite fortunate that I am able to pick out guitar orchestration, harmonies etc etc and as there wasn't anything like it available I decided to put some time into doing them. Not a lot of recent activity this last year due to personal stuff but lots more 'bigger' stuff in the process. I also know that for a lot that it isn't something that they are able to do - doesn't make them more shit than the next guy - SO I offer them up for free cause that's just my way/character. Interested to see if your view would change if you were to assume I WAS getting free?? Hmm.... (ps - 'Let Us Cling Together' isn't much of an example of a 'tricky one' IMO. Were you aware of how many different guitars are in 'White Queen' or 'All Dead, All Dead'?) ;-P |
| gerry 20.04.2014 04:36 |
ludwigs: yes i can imaging the amount of guitars in "All dead all dead" that is a very complicated May track with brilliant guitar orchestration, to which May has made his trade marks. Was not aware with "White Queen" though. You do what you want on YT as it is your business, to answer the question from Brenski about who will have the last laugh etc.... i will because i have see Mercury & May in all there fine glory, and to be honest Brian has lost the plot now and looks so odd with adam lambert, its not a match in heaven is it, with lambert looking like an eco warrior and may with his white hair! so Brenski, theres your answer its a no contest, did you honestly think this lambert & Queen tour would be better than any previous Queen tour with Freddie in all his glory? you have you head up your hole mate. |
| brENsKi 20.04.2014 08:55 |
gerry wrote: to answer the question from Brenski about who will have the last laugh etc.... i will because i have see Mercury & May in all there fine glory, and to be honest Brian has lost the plot now and looks so odd with adam lambert, its not a match in heaven is it, with lambert looking like an eco warrior and may with his white hair! so Brenski, theres your answer its a no contest, did you honestly think this lambert & Queen tour would be better than any previous Queen tour with Freddie in all his glory? you have you head up your hole mate. Gerry, without doubt, you are a f**king imbecile - of the first order. Tell me WHERE I said ANYTHING positive about Queen+AL ? You can't cos I didn't. I've said load about AL - none of it positive. The only thing I have EVER said is that Bri&Rog can do what they like, and I won't buy it if i don't like it (ala The Cosmos Rocks) Here's just a handful of my anit-AL quotes: "let's just be thankful that "little tommy tucker" doesn't have to sing for his supper...because the f**ker will starve to death" " "the common wanker" isn't even aware of Adam Lambert's existence - let alone his ability to "hit some notes" or otherwise..... to most "common wankers" Adam Lambert will be someone they don't know from (ahem) Adam " "in five years time your nick on here will be "someonewho likesHarry" or "someonewholikesNed" or some other such bollox... fact is in five years time people won't even be saying "do you remember Adam Lambert?" - because NO-ONE will - but in fifty years time people will still remember Freddie Mercury, Robert Plant, Ronnie Dio, George Michael and a few others" "He's not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy" I suppose it'd be too much for you to admit YOU were wrong on that score, or woe betide, an apology? BTW:- I saw Queen in their heyday - FIVE TIMES: NEC - 1979 Milton keynes 1982 NEC 1984 Wembley 1986 Knebworth 1986 .... so get a check of your facts before casting aspersions on my "Queen background" |
| gerry 20.04.2014 09:42 |
Brenski: So now you are calling adam lambert, does that mean you will get slated on here like me then? i very much doubt it because whatever you say you get away with it. you say some silly things like "who will have the last laugh to see May and Lambert compared to watching Queen on dvd" By the way i was not asking how many times you have seen Queen so where did that come from? By the way do you know what an imbecile is? look in the mirror darling and find out! Happy Easter hun. |
| john bodega 20.04.2014 10:06 |
"those who got to see Brian May at his best one last time" It's a cost-benefit analysis for a lot of us, though. It's like someone offering me a deal with a serious bit of ass flavoured fine-print - cool, I get to go and see Paganini in my time machine, but I'll have to put up with Ryan Seacrest reading the news in my ear the whole time. I'd give your right nut to be able to see Brian, he's my hero. Not so keen on having to deal with the vast musical disparity. It'd be as enjoyable as paying to hear my neighbours argue about immigration. |
| gerry 20.04.2014 10:44 |
Zebonka12: Yeah i totally agree with what you say, and do not get me wrong because i love Brian to bits he is such an intelligent gentle passionate guy and the best rock guitarist by miles, but you got to admit with the talent he has, what the hell is he doing touring with a slip of a lad like adam lambert? Personally when we lose someone like Brian has with Freddie, we make all the wrong choices in life, and i still believe that after all these years Brian is still grieving very quietly for Freddie. Deep inside he knows Queen will never reach the heady heights that they did with Freddie. Just likewhat AC/DC said this week about there guitarist malcolm young "we will not be replacing malcolm if anything happened to him" and this is what Queen should have done when Freddie passed away. |
| brENsKi 20.04.2014 16:16 |
not "now" - forever, those quotes of mine - above - are ALL old ones, - shows what an imbecile you are - that you can't follow basic English.gerry wrote:Brenski: So now you are calling adam lambert, does that mean you will get slated on here like me then? gerry wrote:you say some silly things like "who will have the last laugh to see May and Lambert compared to watching Queen on dvd"show me where I have said that...go on, i challenge you...you idiot. i know for fact I have never said anything in the slightest bit flattering about Queen+AL. you really are unbelievably dense. gerry wrote:By the way i was not asking how many times you have seen Queen so where did that come from?it came from this quote from you gerry wrote:to answer the question from Brenski about who will have the last laugh etc.... i will because i have see Mercury & May in all there fine glory, which more or less implies you are better because YOU saw Queen "at their best" so i merely retorted that I had too - FIVE fucking times...ok? gerry wrote:By the way do you know what an imbecile is?- well if i didn't....i sure do now....you're doing such a f*cking fine impersonation of one, that i have little doubt as to what one looks/acts like. cretin. |
| luthorn 20.04.2014 16:35 |
Brenski i think you are on to something, a new discussion thread: 100 best anti AL quotes on this forum. |
| The Real Wizard 20.04.2014 21:37 |
Zebonka12 wrote: I'd give your right nut to be able to see BrianHa ha ! The express route. |
| The Real Wizard 20.04.2014 21:41 |
gerry wrote: Just likewhat AC/DC said this week about there guitarist malcolm young "we will not be replacing malcolm if anything happened to him" and this is what Queen should have done when Freddie passed away.The guys in Queen were in their early 40s when Freddie died. Some of the guys in AC/DC are in their 60s. It's a slightly different situation. An equivalent would be this - "AC/DC should've quit when Bon Scott died." But they didn't, did they? Of course, AC/DC went on to create Back In Black and Queen didn't do a heck of a lot - but that really isn't the point here. The point is - bands can do whatever the hell they'd like, and if you don't want to buy the albums or go to the shows, that's your choice. As long as you know that Brian and Roger a) are going to play anyway, and b) aren't the least bit concerned about your opinion. |
| matt z 21.04.2014 01:07 |
Good to see the form and good natured discussions turn into all out battles again. If I even had a tv, I think I'd still prefer reading the lashings and insults on this forum for entertainment |
| The Real Wizard 21.04.2014 01:42 |
That's how we roll :-) |
| brENsKi 21.04.2014 03:01 |
gerry wrote: Zebonka12: Yeah i totally agree with what you say, and do not get me wrong because i love Brian to bits he is such an intelligent gentle passionate guy and the best rock guitarist by miles, but you got to admit with the talent he has, what the hell is he doing touring with a slip of a lad like adam lambert? Personally when we lose someone like Brian has with Freddie, we make all the wrong choices in life, and i still believe that after all these years Brian is still grieving very quietly for Freddie. Deep inside he knows Queen will never reach the heady heights that they did with Freddie. Just likewhat AC/DC said this week about there guitarist malcolm young "we will not be replacing malcolm if anything happened to him" and this is what Queen should have done when Freddie passed away. But why rule out the possibility in your own mind? give everything a chance - give everything a listen, then, if you don't like it... You're forgetting - people leave bands/fall out or die all the time. And some bands have produce some very good albums after a split or death:- Van Halen produced (imo) their 3 best albums with Sammy Hagar on mic. Deep Purple's "Burn" album is one of their best - despite losing vocalist and bass player. Genesis' - A Trick of the Tail is another case to point. Maiden, UFO, Yes, Floyd and many more have ALL completed good/great albums after the departure of key band member....and as someone has already said Back in Black is the biggest example of this - so why not? - it's not as if Freddie was some pillar of musical excellence who could do no wrong - his contributions to HS, AKOM, Works and Miracle - as well as Mr Bad Guy leave a much to be desired.... |
| gerry 21.04.2014 03:24 |
Brenski: Have to disagree with you, when you said Freddie was NOT a musical pillar of force, well he was and you cannot compare him to rubbish like sammy hagar, Black sabbath, Genesis, Freddie was mega talented and may be other groups could replace there ordinary band members but Queen will never be able to do this. Sure Queen have made mistakes with albums and every member who has gone solo in Queen has not set the charts on fire, but as that unit Queen, they have been more successful than most other groups around. If you do not think Freddie was incredible then i suggest you are not a real Queen fan. To name sammy Hagar, Genesis, Sabbath in the same breath as the great Freddie Mercury is un-forgivable, as Mr. Mercury has the greatest voice ever in Rock music. Personally i love "A kind of magic" "The Works" & "Hot Space" all offer something different in the bands abilities. |
| brENsKi 21.04.2014 04:53 |
gerry wrote: Brenski: Have to disagree with you, when you said Freddie was NOT a musical pillar of force, well he was and you cannot compare him to rubbish like sammy hagar, Black sabbath, Genesis, Freddie was mega talented and may be other groups could replace there ordinary band members but Queen will never be able to do this.you missed the point. i didn't compare Freddie to Sammy - SH came INTO Van Halen it was DLR that departed. The whole point was about bands continuing after losing one or more key members. - which YOu completely failed to grasp. gerry wrote: Sure Queen have made mistakes with albums and every member who has gone solo in Queen has not set the charts on fire, but as that unit Queen, they have been more successful than most other groups around.could that be because the "faultless" Freddie needed the grounding of the other three to produce his best work? Solo - apart from Barcelona - he was pretty average. gerry wrote: If you do not think Freddie was incredible then i suggest you are not a real Queen fan.When he was on his game he was incredible. But he could be average too when he couldn't be arsed. Recognizing this does not make me less of a fan than you...just less of a sychophantic, myopic, stepford fool than you - that's all gerry wrote:To name sammy Hagar, Genesis, Sabbath in the same breath as the great Freddie Mercury is un-forgivable, as Mr. Mercury has the greatest voice ever in Rock music.YOU mentioned Sabbath - I didn't - anywhere. But you show your stepfordism yet again - all music has something to offer. I love Hagar's stuff. Mercury had the best voice in pop-rock - but he didn't have the best ROCK voice - I'd say either Plant or Dio get that honour. gerry wrote:Personally i love "A kind of magic" "The Works" & "Hot Space" all offer something different in the bands abilities.yeah...synths, formulaic pap and repetition with lazy computer/electronic programming and very little actual effort. And a lot less to offer ability-wise than some of the bands' you dismiss so readily. |
| gerry 21.04.2014 05:24 |
Brenski: firstly appologies yes i mentioned Black Sabbath which was wrong, i meant Deep Purple still those groups are ten a penny. You ARE mad if you think Plant or Dio had better rock orientated voices than Freddie did. Why is it then that Freddie has been voted "THE" Greatest voice in Rock music ever? Sure Queen used synths on Hot Space in 1982, but they wanted to experiment after all the new romantic groups had arrived like Duran Duran, Human League, etc.... Queen were very brave for jumping into new territory even though many fans disliked the album due to the lack of Mays guitar and more of the synths. But there was a few great tunes on there like, Mays "Dancer" and Mercurys "Staying Power" At least you cannot accuse Queen of turning out the "old same as" like many of the heavy groups. |
| brENsKi 21.04.2014 05:50 |
gerry wrote: Brenski: firstly appologies yes i mentioned Black Sabbath which was wrong, i meant Deep Purple still those groups are ten a penny.no they are NOT ten a penny - this shows again your stepford blinkered view - without the likes of these bands - purple, sabbs and zep, you'd find queen probably would not have been a success. those three bands more or less gave the "heavy rock" genre it's breakthrough gerry wrote:You ARE mad if you think Plant or Dio had better rock orientated voices than Freddie did.I made a distinction between "pop-rock" and "ROCK" - note the capitals - this was to emphasise the specifics of a genre. Do yourself a huge favour - go away and listen to these albums "long live rock n roll" "rising" "heaven and hell" "led zep I" (recorded in 36 hrs) "led zep II" and "in through the out door" - listen properly to the vocals - then come back and argue. - and listen to Sammy Hagar sing on those 3 Van Hagar albums + the first Montrose album. gerry wrote: At least you cannot accuse Queen of turning out the "old same as" like many of the heavy groups.purple, zep, doobie bros,eagles and many others took risks with "funk" "reggae" and "soul" long before queen did - try 1976/78 |
| TomP63 21.04.2014 06:23 |
Gerry, I think that Brenski made some valid and good point about Freddie. Freddie isn't a rock singer, Freddie was a rock singer. In the 70s Freddie was a pure rock singer, with a different appraoch, he could sing very nasty, nasty in a good way, he really showed his rock style with tracks as Son and Daughter, Brighton Rock, on stage he was a beast. Let me entertain you live is a performance done by a real rock singer. But later on Freddie became a pop singer. The likes a Plant and Ronnie James Dio are in my humble opinion real rock singers. Hell I even throw in Graham Bonnet, or even Mark Farner, these guys are rock singers. Compare it a bit with Gary Moore, although he made many blues albums, it did not make Gare a blues gitarist for that matter, see were I'm getting at. Hot Space was a bold move for Queen, but the effort is very very disappointing. I for one can only digest side two. Tom |
| gerry 21.04.2014 06:38 |
Tom : Freddies pedigree is mainly rock, and Queens music was always rock n roll. so he will always be regarded as a rock god! Sure he eventually spanned out into all kind of avenues from pop, opera, ballads, but his voice was always best doing rock songs, one of the very best was "Sweet Lady". |
| john bodega 21.04.2014 06:53 |
"But why rule out the possibility in your own mind? give everything a chance" I can't speak for Gerry, but I've given Q+AL as many chances as I care to give 'em. I'll listen to the audience tapes like everyone else, but I'm not expecting any pleasant surprises. The best I can hope for is Bijou and some more Brian/Roger centered stuff. |
| gerry 21.04.2014 07:17 |
Zebonka12 : yeah i agree with you 100% because i have given Q & AL the benefit of the doubt on you tube and i can only watch 1 minutes worth before feeling physically sick to the stomache. You would not put strawberry ice cream with sausage would you, so why Queen with AL ? yes more Brian /Roger input please! |
| brENsKi 21.04.2014 08:10 |
TomP63 wrote: Gerry, I think that Brenski made some valid and good point about Freddie. Freddie isn't a rock singer, Freddie was a rock singer. In the 70s Freddie was a pure rock singer, with a different appraoch, he could sing very nasty, . The likes a Plant and Ronnie James Dio are in my humble opinion real rock singers. Hell I even throw in Graham Bonnet, or even Mark Farner, these guys are rock singers. Tom@TomP63: d'you know what? i nearly said Graham Bonnet - but thought i'd get flamed - as pure rocks singers go, i'd put "His Skegness" up here with Dio and Plant - most people remember his Rainbow/MSG stuff...but he sounds good on the impelliteri and alcatrazz stuff - as he did on that early marbles album @Gerry: There is very little from "The Game" onward that can be considered true "Rock Vocals" from Freddie: Put Out The Fire/Tear It Up/Hammer To Fall/Vision/Prize/Princes/I Go Crazy/ Kashoggi/Breakthru/I Want It All/Innuendo/ I don't include the two "rock tracks" on the Innuendo album - as they're not sung with a rock tone. So that's approx 11 true rock vocals in 50-odd tracks. he was NOT a rock vocalist in the 80s - no more than he was a musichall/vaudeville singer in the 70s - despite the SHA/Opera/Races dalliances into this genre. |
| TomP63 21.04.2014 08:40 |
@TomP63: d'you know what? i nearly said Graham Bonnet - but thought i'd get flamed - as pure rocks singers go, i'd put "His Skegness" up here with Dio and Plant - most people remember his Rainbow/MSG stuff...but he sounds good on the impelliteri and alcatrazz stuff - as he did on that early marbles album Brenski, I think that the Rainbow period with Bonnet is a class apart, okay he could not measured up to the Dio standards, but hell who could, Turner? Nah!Doogie White? Nah! For that matter Dio was grandeur excellence in Sabbath. But I must stop now taklin' and writing about the late GREAT Ronald James Padavona, otherwise I might upset some people........ Can you see this Brenski: Love Token, done in this line up: Dio Vocal Neill Murray Bass Cozy Powell Drums the Doctor with his axe........man what a band this could have been! |
| Vocal harmony 21.04.2014 11:42 |
gerry wrote: Brenski: firstly appologies yes i mentioned Black Sabbath which was wrong, i meant Deep Purple still those groups are ten a penny. You ARE mad if you think Plant or Dio had better rock orientated voices than Freddie did. Why is it then that Freddie has been voted "THE" Greatest voice in Rock music ever? Sure Queen used synths on Hot Space in 1982, but they wanted to experiment after all the new romantic groups had arrived like Duran Duran, Human League, etc.... Queen were very brave for jumping into new territory even though many fans disliked the album due to the lack of Mays guitar and more of the synths. But there was a few great tunes on there like, Mays "Dancer" and Mercurys "Staying Power" At least you cannot accuse Queen of turning out the "old same as" like many of the heavy groups. |
| brENsKi 21.04.2014 12:01 |
VH - was there something you were intending to say? |
| Vocal harmony 21.04.2014 12:05 |
Gerry I think you are arguing about a subject you either no little about or choice to turn a blind eye to the facts. If you weren't so wrapped up in this Freddie is the greatest mentality you maybe could see or accept things in a more open manner. Both Dio and Plant are better Rock singers than Freddie. Dio in that classic rock style, Plant in the older blues influenced style. Neither of which Freddie could do as well or as convincingly. Calling bands like Deep Purple ten a penny, was that a serious moment. As musicians their ability leaves Queen on the starting line. . . Did anyone in Queen have the keyboard skills of Jon Lord? No is RT a better drummer than IP? No doesn't come close. Was Blackmore as good as BM, hell yes. Even the musicians who replaced Lord and Blackmore are better than any members of Queen. BM's strength as a guitarist was the way he used the guitar and the sound he produced. The chords and note sequences in most Queen songs are not hugely challenging to a competent player. There are many players who play more complex and harder parts to learn and play. I think anyone who plays BM guitar part will tell you the same. The challenge is to emulate his style and sound. He isnt the greatest rock guitarist in the world, but he is one of, if not the, most distinctive. What Freddie was good at was going from one style to the other. He wasn't the best Rock vocalist just as he wasn't the best pop, soul or opera singer in the world. But was there anyone who would dare step into so many styles? No. Does this make him the best? Not sure. But it is where Queens problem comes from now. There are many great singers, but none of them are Freddie |
| Vocal harmony 21.04.2014 12:09 |
brENsKi wrote: VH - was there something you were intending to say?Yes, see above. I finally got round to it. Hadn't realized the system had deleted what I had written! |
| thomasquinn 32989 21.04.2014 12:16 |
gerry wrote: Brenski: Have to disagree with you, when you said Freddie was NOT a musical pillar of force, well he was and you cannot compare him to rubbish like sammy hagar, Black sabbath, Genesis, Freddie was mega talented and may be other groups could replace there ordinary band members but Queen will never be able to do this. Sure Queen have made mistakes with albums and every member who has gone solo in Queen has not set the charts on fire, but as that unit Queen, they have been more successful than most other groups around. If you do not think Freddie was incredible then i suggest you are not a real Queen fan. To name sammy Hagar, Genesis, Sabbath in the same breath as the great Freddie Mercury is un-forgivable, as Mr. Mercury has the greatest voice ever in Rock music. Personally i love "A kind of magic" "The Works" & "Hot Space" all offer something different in the bands abilities.So, essentially, you are now a musical Taliban - Freddie is a god, thou shalt not speak ill of Him, He is not to be compared to other artists, infidels should be punished, etc. Good luck with the mental healthcare while the sane people amongst us enjoy a somewhat wider musical horizon. |
| gerry 21.04.2014 12:46 |
Thomas: i do have a wide span of musical tastes from the Beatles, Abba, E.L.O, Status Quo, Tina Turner, Boston, etc........ but Freddie is my hero, so please do not assume that i am narrow minded because some fools on here say i am.. There is always two sides to a coin. Do not judge, ask first yeah. |
| Mike G 21.04.2014 12:49 |
This is when a discussion should end, you guy's are going around in circles...Queen weren't the be all end all of music, and that goes for Freddie as well....Could we all agree that Queen are possibly in the top 10 of the greatest bands of all time?...Sabbath is probably in there as well...In Gerry's defense it's one thing replacing ozzy with the great Dio....It's a different story replacing the great Mercury with adam lambert..In vocal Harmony's defense, I don't think Gerry knows jack shit about rock music if he puts down Sabbath and Purple....end the madness now! |
| Mike G 21.04.2014 12:55 |
Vocal harmony wrote: Gerry I think you are arguing about a subject you either no little about or choice to turn a blind eye to the facts. If you weren't so wrapped up in this Freddie is the greatest mentality you maybe could see or accept things in a more open manner. Both Dio and Plant are better Rock singers than Freddie. Dio in that classic rock style, Plant in the older blues influenced style. Neither of which Freddie could do as well or as convincingly. Calling bands like Deep Purple ten a penny, was that a serious moment. As musicians their ability leaves Queen on the starting line. . . Did anyone in Queen have the keyboard skills of Jon Lord? No is RT a better drummer than IP? No doesn't come close. Was Blackmore as good as BM, hell yes. Even the musicians who replaced Lord and Blackmore are better than any members of Queen. BM's strength as a guitarist was the way he used the guitar and the sound he produced. The chords and note sequences in most Queen songs are not hugely challenging to a competent player. There are many players who play more complex and harder parts to learn and play. I think anyone who plays BM guitar part will tell you the same. The challenge is to emulate his style and sound. He isnt the greatest rock guitarist in the world, but he is one of, if not the, most distinctive. What Freddie was good at was going from one style to the other. He wasn't the best Rock vocalist just as he wasn't the best pop, soul or opera singer in the world. But was there anyone who would dare step into so many styles? No. Does this make him the best? Not sure. But it is where Queens problem comes from now. There are many great singers, but none of them are FreddieSaying all that, I would put Freddie in the top 2 or 3 pop/rock singers of all time overall...I agree he wasn't the best in any one style, but it's pretty rare for a singer too sing so many styles so well...Brian is in the top 15?....not so bad if you ask me...No reason to put Queen down just to make you're point... |
| gerry 21.04.2014 13:00 |
Mike: it was purely a mistake on my behalf putting down sabbath instead of deep purple. i know a lot about rock music as it has been a hobby of mine for at least 40 years. you are right we are going around in circles but guess what mike, vocal harmony started all this shit with his bitch remarks so do not blame me he started it. i just wanna chat about Queen after all this is the Queen zone. Queen are not possibly in the top 10 as you suggest they are the no 1 greatest group of all time. |
| Mike G 21.04.2014 13:05 |
Not a fan of all these bands, but as far as overall impact I'll say....Beatles, Stones (not a huge fan though)...Zep, the Who, Hendrix Experience, Floyd, Queen, The Doors, Sabbath, Rush?.....What do you guy's think of that list? I'm not the biggest fan of some these bands but you have to give credit when do... |
| brENsKi 21.04.2014 16:17 |
gerry wrote:Mike: it was purely a mistake on my behalf putting down sabbath instead of deep purple..no. it was a mistake of YOURS putting down EITHER sabbs OR purple. it unmasks your ignorance for ALL to see gerry wrote:Queen are not possibly in the top 10 as you suggest they are the no 1 greatest group of all time.no. they aren't. they maybe second (on a good day) to the Beatles. (they'll always be my favourite band - but even I accept they weren't the best) |
| ZBGM0 21.04.2014 16:55 |
Vocal harmony wrote: He wasn't the best Rock vocalist just as he wasn't the best pop, soul or opera singer in the world.Vocal harmony you have very good points and I can see you know a lot about music. I am not saying Freddie was the best pop singer but it is impossible for me to find pop male singer that I could say that is better than Freddie. I am just curious and would like hear your opinion. which one you think is better? just curious.... I do admit that I haven’t heard (till now) any other pop male singer with fuller and richer tone than Freddie’s. And remember I am talking about his best live moments, like Newcastle Dec 79, Live Aid etc. Thanks. |
| Sheer Brass Neck 21.04.2014 22:09 |
I like Mike G's take: "Queen weren't the be all end all of music, and that goes for Freddie as well....Could we all agree that Queen are possibly in the top 10 of the greatest bands of all time? In Gerry's defense it's one thing replacing ozzy with the great Dio....It's a different story replacing the great Mercury with adam lambert." Queen's catalogue will arguably be next to The Beatles in terms of timelessness, sales whatever criteria when all is said and done. Freddie is in the pantheon with Elvis, John Lennon, etc. He wrote arguably the greatest song ever. He was arguably the greatest singer in rock ever. He was arguably the greatest rock frontman ever. He arguably had the greatest performance by a rock musician at what was arguably the biggest rock concert ever. Give one person one of those and they'd be special. He achieved all of those, arguably. So replacing him even for a tour or two with a performer of Adam Lambert's stature? Like replacing Picasso with a guy form Starving Artist's at your local mall. They both paint, that's where the comparison ends. |
| The Real Wizard 21.04.2014 23:20 |
gerry wrote: To name sammy Hagar, Genesis, Sabbath in the same breath as the great Freddie Mercury is un-forgivable, Personally i love "A kind of magic" "The Works" & "Hot Space" all offer something different in the bands abilities.If you had any credibility left, you'd be down to zero after making those statements. Typical stepford fan, completely zoned into one band and everything else is in second place. If you write off classic albums like Selling England By The Pound, The Lamb, Duke, Paranoid, Sabotage and 5150 - and then mention Hot Space and AKOM in the same breath - you are an even bigger fool than I thought. |
| Gregsynth 21.04.2014 23:53 |
Hot Space = Most brilliant album of the 20th century. Body Language is a classic - an abstract dance-like track that has really thoughtful lyrics. |
| inu-liger 22.04.2014 00:20 |
Gregsynth wrote: Hot Space = Most brilliant album of the 20th century. Body Language is a classic - an abstract dance-like track that has really thoughtful lyrics.And the most ingenious music video of all time ;) |
| ZBGM0 22.04.2014 05:33 |
inu-liger wrote:Yes, in Hot Space you can find more musical geniality then in Beethoven’s fifth symphony. Body language is the best “piece” of the 20th century.Gregsynth wrote: Hot Space = Most brilliant album of the 20th century. Body Language is a classic - an abstract dance-like track that has really thoughtful lyrics.And the most ingenious music video of all time ;) |
| gerry 22.04.2014 06:34 |
The real Wanker: Your not a real Queen fan if you think i am a fool for liking " A kind of Magic" and "Hot Space" albums. This is the Queenzone and its really for fans who are 100%passionate about Queen like i am. Sometimes i wonder if you lot are true fans or just taking the piss. Also to TOM one here, you say Queen were not a rock group, well take a visit to any HMV store and see where Queen is listed in the store, yes under the category "Rock" so end of debate. Freddie was always known as a rock singer. |
| Vocal harmony 22.04.2014 06:48 |
Vocal harmony you have very good points and I can see you know a lot about music I am just curious and would like hear your opinion. which one you think is better? just curious.... I do admit that I haven’t heard (till now) any other pop male singer with fuller and richer tone than Freddie’s. And remember I am talking about his best live moments, like Newcastle Dec 79, Live Aid etc. In the mid 80's Tony Hadley from Spandau Ballet certainly had a rich tone, and fuller sounding voice. Not a band I'm a fan of, but a singer who could run with Freddie when it came to singing pop, as opposed to a wider range of songs. He could also do it live, pretty consistently. Freddie, as is well documented, suffered vocal chord problems so there is sometimes a difference from gig to gig, and tour to tour in vocal quality. At his best Freddie as a vocalist was hard to beat and IMOas a front man untouchable. Thanks. |
| Vocal harmony 22.04.2014 07:01 |
gerry wrote: The real Wanker: Your not a real Queen fan if you think i am a fool for liking " A kind of Magic" and "Hot Space" albums. This is the Queenzone and its really for fans who are 100%passionate about Queen like i am. Sometimes i wonder if you lot are true fans or just taking the piss. Also to TOM one here, you say Queen were not a rock group, well take a visit to any HMV store and see where Queen is listed in the store, yes under the category "Rock"Actually Gerry, in HMV they are listed under Rock and Pop which is where you'll find Take That, The Spice Girls and One Direction. . . So it proves nothing. You're in over your head as far as discussing music, because you have closed your ears to so much through your devotion to one artist, or group of artists, who when they choose to do something that doesn't fit in with your rose tinted view of life with Freddie, you rebel against. You are unwilling to recognize true musical talent or genius beyond Mr Mercury. You are unable to hear something, understand what makes it good and recognize it as such although it may not fit in with what you would choose to listen too. Go and find Whipping Post by Frank Zappa, then come back here and tell us what you think of Bobby Martin's vocal performance. |
| gerry 22.04.2014 07:54 |
Vocal Harmony: im not closed down to other forms of music, its just that i can not find anyone more excellent than Freddies vocals to please me, he was a one off and had the style other rock singers lack. i heard whipping post by frank zappa, which is really not my thing but the guitar work reminds me a little bit of Boston. My cd collection is huge and not just Queen, I have cds by Toto, Twisted Sister, E.L.O, Status Quo, Supertramp The Sweet, David Bowie, Boston, Kiss etc......... so its untrue that i am unwilling to recognize other artisits. Freddie has been my ultimate number one since i was 10 years old, he made everyone else look like trash on "TOP OF THE POPS" and i knew he was extra special and not just another boring rock star. |
| Vocal harmony 22.04.2014 08:44 |
Gerry, with that cross section of rock music in your collection I'm suprised you earlier claimed that bands like Deep Purple were ten a penny. Queen are by far my favourite band, but I would never think of matching there musical skills up against the likes of Purple, or Rush or any of Frank Zappa's touring bands. Queens stregth, especially in the 70's was that they carved out a style that was 100% distinctive. I feel that when they started working with Mack, much of that style and uniqueness of sounds was watered down. They became more mainstream and as a result, through most of the worlds record buying teretories became huge. But sales alone are not a barometer by which you can measue greatness alone, if it were there are many bands who sell or have sold huge amounts of tickets and cd's who's contribution to great music can be written about on a postage stamp. Having roots in 70's rock I'm surprised that your such a fan of Queens 80's output, which although hugely successful and singable doesn't stand artistically to well, for the most part, against what they produced in the decade before. |
| thomasquinn 32989 22.04.2014 08:50 |
gerry wrote: The real Wanker: Your not a real Queen fan if you think i am a fool for liking " A kind of Magic" and "Hot Space" albums. This is the Queenzone and its really for fans who are 100%passionate about Queen like i am. Sometimes i wonder if you lot are true fans or just taking the piss. Also to TOM one here, you say Queen were not a rock group, well take a visit to any HMV store and see where Queen is listed in the store, yes under the category "Rock" so end of debate. Freddie was always known as a rock singer.This is just fucking pathetic and mentally ill. You *are* a Queen-Taliban after all - you come to a forum, then you have the goddamn gall to lay down the rules to others, and what are said rules? You have to be "100% passionate about Queen like I am", meaning that you can't be critical of any of Queen's work and have to accept them as infallible, perfect and incapable of putting out lousy crap as well as some brilliant work. Then, to top it off, you say "end of debate", honestly believing you have settled the matter of where Queen belongs in terms of genre because HMV files it under "rock". Are you really so stupid that you can't fathom the incredible imbecility of this utterly flawed reasoning? |
| thomasquinn 32989 22.04.2014 08:52 |
gerry wrote: i heard whipping post by frank zappa, which is really not my thing but the guitar work reminds me a little bit of Boston.OK, if we needed any further proof that your opinion on any matter of a musical nature is as worthless as Michelle Bachmann's views on quantum mechanics, we have it right here. Zappa's guitar work reminds you of Boston? Get a hearing aid. |
| gerry 22.04.2014 11:21 |
Thomas quinn: hang on to your handbag love! you moan about me whinging well your can squawk just like the rest of us love! by the way that zappa track did sound like Bostons guitarist, and my ears are ok thank you very much. Queen are not perfect they have made mistakes, but i still support them because i am a loyal fan. i would say after the "kind of magic" album it all went pear shaped. When it comes to the music im very fussy and i guess my standards are higher than yours but hey do not let me hold that against you. l.o.l |
| Vocal harmony 22.04.2014 11:28 |
thomasquinn 32989 wrote:OK, if we needed any further proof that your opinion on any matter of a musical nature is as worthless as Michelle Bachmann's views on quantum mechanics, we have it right here. Zappa's guitar work reminds you of Boston? Get a hearing aid. Ha ha so true. I desperately avoided saying something similar! |
| The Real Wizard 22.04.2014 11:40 |
gerry wrote: The real Wanker: Your not a real Queen fan if you think i am a fool for liking " A kind of Magic" and "Hot Space" albums. This is the Queenzone and its really for fans who are 100%passionate about Queen like i am. Sometimes i wonder if you lot are true fans or just taking the piss.You equate being a fan with liking every single piece of a band's output, and you're not a "real" fan if you think classic albums by other bands are better than Queen's poorest albums? Your brain is just so small. |
| The Real Wizard 22.04.2014 11:43 |
gerry wrote: its just that i can not find anyone more excellent than Freddies vocals to please me, he was a one off and had the style other rock singers lack.Etta James? Stevie Wonder? Marvin Gaye? Aretha Franklin? How about Imelda May? link link It's not that you haven't found it. You haven't opened your mind to it because you're stuck in a 70s/80s Queen time warp and created a religion in your head devoted to one singer (not band - singer). |
| gerry 22.04.2014 12:07 |
real wanker: What on earth are going on about? first you accuse me of been narrow minded and not expand my musical searches then you accuse me of liking other groups albums what is going on in your brain man?? wacky backy me thinks? |
| Vocal harmony 22.04.2014 12:35 |
Gerry I think you should re read what The Real Wanker has said. Also those five singers that were mentioned in Mr Wankers last post are easily equal to, if not better then Freddie. He didn't stand on stage in 1982 and say "I'm gonna make you sing like Aretha Franklin" because he thought she was crap. . . or not as good as him. |
| brENsKi 22.04.2014 12:39 |
The Real Wanker wrote:or PP Arnold, Janis Joplin, Ben E King, Sam Cooke, Solomon Burke, Frankie Valli, Joan Baez....gerry wrote: its just that i can not find anyone more excellent than Freddies vocals to please me, he was a one off and had the style other rock singers lack.Etta James? Stevie Wonder? Marvin Gaye? Aretha Franklin? How about Imelda May? and Irma Thomas' "Anyone Who Knows What Love Is" - is possibly one of the finest vocals ever put to disc....effortless perfection |
| gerry 22.04.2014 12:55 |
NO it has to be "somebody to love" because Freddies vocal on that track was phenomenal and unbeatable, even George Michael had trouble with that vocal. My second Favourite singer is Tina Turner! Dynamic woman, check out her vocals on "its only love" amazing lung power! |
| Holly2003 22.04.2014 13:04 |
Gladys Knight's performance on "Midnight Train to Georgia" might give that a run for its money.
There are so many really great rock vocalists out there. Phil Mogg is a personal favourite, although probably doesn't have the same range as Fred. I would argue Myles Kennedy is up there too. David Coverdale's vocals on 'Starkers in Tokyo' are excellent. Even someone like Joe Lynn Turner can really belt it out. Still, if you listen to Fred's isolated vocal on 'Somebody to Love' it's not hard to make a case for him being a great, if not the greatest rock vocalist around in his lifetime.
brENsKi wrote: or PP Arnold, Janis Joplin, Ben E King, Sam Cooke, Solomon Burke, Frankie Valli, Joan Baez.... and Irma Thomas' "Anyone Who Knows What Love Is" - is possibly one of the finest vocals ever put to disc....effortless perfection |
| Holly2003 22.04.2014 13:08 |
Yeah she's great. Have to admit I went through a phase in my late teens when 'Private Dancer' was never off my stereo. 'It's Only Love' (1986), with Bryan Adams, is perhaps the perfect rock/pop song.
gerry wrote: NO it has to be "somebody to love" because Freddies vocal on that track was phenomenal and unbeatable, even George Michael had trouble with that vocal. My second Favourite singer is Tina Turner! Dynamic woman, check out her vocals on "its only love" amazing lung power! |
| Mike G 23.04.2014 00:54 |
Holly2003 wrote: Gladys Knight's performance on "Midnight Train to Georgia" might give that a run for its money. There are so many really great rock vocalists out there. Phil Mogg is a personal favourite, although probably doesn't have the same range as Fred. I would argue Myles Kennedy is up there too. David Coverdale's vocals on 'Starkers in Tokyo' are excellent. Even someone like Joe Lynn Turner can really belt it out. Still, if you listen to Fred's isolated vocal on 'Somebody to Love' it's not hard to make a case for him being a great, if not the greatest rock vocalist around in his lifetime.Holly, how about Love Of My Life?...I think it might equal to Somebody To love...Then listen to Hammer To Fall...Not many singers could sing two totally different styles so well...brENsKi wrote: or PP Arnold, Janis Joplin, Ben E King, Sam Cooke, Solomon Burke, Frankie Valli, Joan Baez.... and Irma Thomas' "Anyone Who Knows What Love Is" - is possibly one of the finest vocals ever put to disc....effortless perfection |
| gerry 23.04.2014 02:05 |
Brenski: All those singers you listed are good in there own fields but Freddie was a wizard (pardon the pun) in that he could sing anything, Rock, ballads, pop, opera, etc... i very much doubt the likes of sammy hagar and the rest of the rock crowd could stand up to the forces of Montserrat Caballe. Freddie was the one exception and nailed it. MikeG: yes Freddies vocal on "Love of my life" was truly beautiful, clear and crisp, and again the same style appeared on "you take my breath away" Fred had a gorgeous falsetto voice which many could not match. |
| TomP63 23.04.2014 07:24 |
Hey Gerry, I don't like PISCP, Cool Cat, Rain Must Fall, My Baby Does Me, in fact I can't stomache it at all!! So in your book that means I'm not a passionate Queen Fan? So everything the band released I have to take as stunning, fucking brilliant, otherwise I'm not a Queen fan? The above mentioned tracks, are those ROCK tracks? Hell not, by no means Queen WAS a rock band. So I must like Back Chat because it has a stunning guitar solo by Brian, that's a bit pisspoor isn't it? This goes not only for the band Queen, this goes for all the CD's in my collection, David Gogo is a brilliant guitarist, but believe me or not, I've seen Gogo over a dozen times, but this doesn't mean I like everything he brought out so far. I'm not a blind follower. Gerry that you find Queen albums by the rock session, tells you what. Here we have Nick and Simon, pure Dutch, their albums can be found....in the rock section......how plain that is, ain't it Tom |
| brENsKi 23.04.2014 07:44 |
gerry wrote:Brenski: All those singers you listed are good in there own fields but Freddie was a wizard (pardon the pun) in that he could sing anything, Rock, ballads, pop, opera, etc...thought YOU said he was a "ROCK SINGER" now you say he's a "JACK OF ALL TRADES" ...make your mind up gerry wrote:i very much doubt the likes of sammy hagar and the rest of the rock crowd could stand up to the forces of Montserrat Caballe. Freddie was the one exception and nailed it.he nailed it...IN THE STUDIO. Any singer could do that. Was the quote from her something along the lines of "I asked him what I should sing" Don't recall them singing this song 100% live - so there was no "FORCE" to stand up to |
| Vocal harmony 23.04.2014 10:00 |
Freddie could jump from one style to the other, probably, better than any one. It was one of the contributing factors to Queen's ability to have a foot in so many musical doors. However I don't think anyone could claim that Freddie was the best pure rock vocalist in the world, and he may have played on the fringes of opera, operetta would be a truer term for what he did as he never played a part and performed in an opera either on stage or recorded. In the vast landscape of real opera, Feddies voice was somewhat lacking when compared to professionals in that field of music. |
| gerry 23.04.2014 10:35 |
vocal harmony: Freddie always won polls on best rock male vocalist, and the likes of Robert Plant, Dio, Sammy Hagar etc... got left by the way side. Freddie always outshone everybody and today he is considered the greatest rock showman ever! |
| gerry 23.04.2014 10:42 |
Brenski: you are one bitter Queen! Freddie has sung live with Monty he made a bloody album with the woman so what the hell you are going on about i do not know. The way you go on it sounds like you actually hate our beloved Freddie. Yes Freddie Mainly sang rock songs but gradually tried other styles and discovered he was damn good at it. Freddie also beat Elvis Presley to the best Rock icon award, which makes me proud as a true ardent Queen fan! May not make you proud brother cos you sound like you have issues with Freddie. |
| brENsKi 23.04.2014 11:01 |
gerry wrote: Brenski: you are one bitter Queen! Freddie has sung live with Monty he made a bloody album with the woman so what the hell you are going on about i do not know.you're hysterical. they NEVER sung live together - from what i saw - it was mimed...and studio recordings are NOT a live performance are they? you do realise how studio recordings work don't you? they wouldn't necessarily have "sung live" - there'd be various takes and retakes and edits...hence the differing versions labelled "early take" "guide vocal" etc - on the FM boxset you fool gerry wrote: The way you go on it sounds like you actually hate our beloved Freddie. Freddie also beat Elvis Presley to the best Rock icon award, which makes me proud as a true ardent Queen fan! May not make you proud brother cos you sound like you have issues with Freddie.what????????????? because I'm not the deluded stepford fool like you - who'd probably think Freddie burping into a mic would be a "classic"???? you really are bonkers...and you need a life other than queen. I grew up with the band thru the 70s heyday, but it doesn't make Freddie the b-all and end-all of everything. honestly, you need to get out more...or even AT ALL |
| gerry 23.04.2014 11:14 |
Brenski: Twisted sister have a name for people like you "Sick mother Fuckers" you really are one! |
| Vocal harmony 23.04.2014 11:29 |
gerry wrote: vocal harmony: Freddie always won polls on best rock male vocalist, and the likes of Robert Plant, Dio, Sammy Hagar etc... got left by the way side. Freddie always outshone everybody and today he is considered the greatest rock showman ever!Gerry, when it comes to art, or music, polls mean very little in the grand scheme of things. If you find a poll that has asked the right people you'll always find a result that will suit your thinking. What about the polls that vote Oasis the greatest band ever, the one that put Bon Scot above Freddie as greatest front man the one that put ANATO in the high twenties of the top fifty albums, the only Queen album in the list. . . The polls that voted Springsteen, the Stones and Genisis as better live acts than Queen What about in the 70's when Steve Jones was voted a better musician than BM and the Sex Pistols a better live band than Queen. Polls are only important to the people who vote or believe in them. They prove nothing |
| brENsKi 23.04.2014 11:33 |
gerry wrote: Brenski: Twisted sister have a name for people like you "Sick mother Fuckers" you really are one!why? i'd suggest you're the sick one...practically everyone here disagrees with your views on this subject, yet....you are still 100% certain you are right. that's an illness |
| Vocal harmony 23.04.2014 11:45 |
gerry wrote: vocal harmony: Freddie always won polls on best rock male vocalist, and the likes of Robert Plant, Dio, Sammy Hagar etc... got left by the way side. Freddie always outshone everybody and today he is considered the greatest rock showman ever!Yes he was one of, if not the greatest. If you ever saw Van Halen with Dave Lee Roth in the early 80's. Springsteen at any time in his career and Paul Stanley in Kiss' heyday or even the Stones back in the day, they are all people who could give Freddie a run for his money and any fan of anyone of those bands/ artists would say you were wrong. Popular music has never been about how good you are at what you do, Dave Lee Roth is an awful vocalist live, but his contact with and comand of an arena audience was stunning. Springsteen with his power of delivery still is amazing. Theirs a lot more out there than just Freddie. |
| gerry 23.04.2014 11:58 |
vocal harmony: yes all those artists you mentioned are very good and entertaining although i have not seen them live. Queen were a band that got my full attention mainly to Freddie and Brian, i was awestruck every time i saw them live, and i remember going to a gig on there "Crazy Tour" back in 1979 and how Brians guitar hit me in the stomache when i heard how loud he was, it was amazing! Freddie in black leathers and strutting round May like a flamboyant peacock on heat and doing ballet twists and turns, this group where mega talented and everybody else did not matter one jot to me, Queen reigned supreme. |
| gerry 24.04.2014 09:15 |
Holly2003: Yeah "Private Dancer" was a great album with some fantastic songs on it. The following album "Break Every Rule" had a brilliant rock track on it with Bryan Adams "Back where you started" as well as "Typical Male" I saw Tina Turner on her tour in 1996, an amazing performer who would put todays girl artists to shame! |
| The Real Wizard 24.04.2014 19:32 |
Even Regina Spektor and Imelda May? Dude - music isn't a contest. You aren't 18 anymore. Polls and comparisons are for kids. You don't have to slag one artist to reinforce why you like another. |
| thomasquinn 32989 25.04.2014 04:26 |
Gerry is very clearly mentally ill. This kind of obsessive behaviour just isn't healthy anymore. |
| gerry 25.04.2014 04:39 |
Thomas quinn: what you going on about? i am not slagging anyone off, and to be honest your the mentally ill one as you certainly can not read! if you havnt got anything constructive to say then shut your fat mouth! you clearly like to cause trouble like the rest of the cretins on here. |
| Sebastian 25.04.2014 05:04 |
The Real Wanker wrote: Polls and comparisons are for kids.Not really. Both of them, if used wisely, can be valuable learning/teaching/sharing devices which aid human socialisation and progress. Most silly polls and rankings are not made for kids either, but both by and for ignorant adults. |
| gerry 25.04.2014 09:02 |
so your saying link is childish? polls are actually a way of seeing what and whom is popular in each given category, otherwise groups would not win awards if we did not have them! |
| Vocal harmony 25.04.2014 09:49 |
gerry wrote: so your saying link is childish? polls are actually a way of seeing what and whom is popular in each given category, otherwise groups would not win awards if we did not have them!In music, as I've said before, polls only reflect the people who read them. In art and music they have no real value. You can search websites and magazines, they will all give you a different view. So yeah Queen may have come out on top in poll x but poll y may have Katy Perry at the top and not mention Queen. I would have thought the pages of posts on this forum would demonstrate that everyone has a different idea about what's good, bad and indifferent. And past making sure that the person at the top of a poll is the one you want there, the rest represent indifference. |
| gerry 25.04.2014 11:25 |
ive noticed on Queenzone they have a poll going at the moment, its the one that asks "Are you happy that Adam Lambert is working with Queen" ? And 86% of people are! Do we take that for gospel or is it just a bit of fun????? Guess its the Lambert fan base that voted yes, and the real ardent Queen fans like me that voted no! |
| brENsKi 25.04.2014 11:29 |
gerry wrote: ive noticed on Queenzone they have a poll going at the moment, its the one that asks "Are you happy that Adam Lambert is working with Queen" ? And 86% of people are! Do we take that for gospel or is it just a bit of fun????? Guess its the Lambert fan base that voted yes, and the real ardent Queen fans like me that voted no!or more to the point. anyone with any sense - just doesn't bother with these things lol |
| gerry 25.04.2014 12:04 |
Brenski: plenty of people have replied to the polls on here. sadly you are in minority! |
| The Real Wizard 25.04.2014 12:19 |
thomasquinn 32989 wrote: Gerry is very clearly mentally ill. This kind of obsessive behaviour just isn't healthy anymore.It once was .. ?! |
| The Real Wizard 25.04.2014 12:21 |
gerry wrote: your the mentally ill one as you certainly can not read!Thomasquinn is probably the single most academically qualified person on this forum. By age 8 he surpassed you intellectually. And it's "you're". Your = you possess something You're = you are You should've learned that in third grade. |
| The Real Wizard 25.04.2014 12:23 |
Sebastian wrote:Absolutely, fair play. But alas, in popular culture they're usually just popularity contests that really don't matter much, especially since people are so fickle with their tastes changing so much with whatever is "in" at that particular time.The Real Wanker wrote: Polls and comparisons are for kids.Not really. Both of them, if used wisely, can be valuable learning/teaching/sharing devices which aid human socialisation and progress. Most silly polls and rankings are not made for kids either, but both by and for ignorant adults. |
| gerry 25.04.2014 12:23 |
Thomas Quinn: Obsessive behaviour? Try "One direction" fans for that one l.o.l i am far from mentally ill and its hilarious as you do not know me, what you do know is jumping on the bandwagon with all the rest on here, clearly very sad! Very un-original dont you think? |
| The Real Wizard 25.04.2014 12:25 |
gerry wrote: Thomas Quinn: Obsessive behaviour? Try "One direction" fans for that one l.o.l i am far from mentally ill and its hilarious as you do not know me, what you do know is jumping on the bandwagon with all the rest on here, clearly very sad! Very un-original dont you think?Just please stop. You're an intellectual midget. This is like watching Sarah Palin try to argue with Noam Chomsky on foreign policy. But like most stupid people, you just don't realize you're stupid. If you did, you wouldn't be stupid. It's a catch 22. Not that you know what that is. |
| The Real Wizard 25.04.2014 12:26 |
gerry wrote: ive noticed on Queenzone they have a poll going at the moment, its the one that asks "Are you happy that Adam Lambert is working with Queen" ? And 86% of people are! Do we take that for gospel or is it just a bit of fun????? Guess its the Lambert fan base that voted yes, and the real ardent Queen fans like me that voted no!So you value polls, but not when they heed a result that you don't agree with ? Talk about confirmation bias. Not that you'd have the slightest clue of what that is. You've posted here 251 times, and not once have you indicated that you have a triple digit IQ. |
| gerry 25.04.2014 12:29 |
Real wizard: i dont give a damn what thomas quinn is or not because this is just a site for passionate Queen fans not fucking university challenge. so please dont feed me all that shite to make yourself look smart because you are not. |
| brENsKi 25.04.2014 12:32 |
The Real Wanker wrote:you waste your typing energy, mategerry wrote: your the mentally ill one as you certainly can not read!Thomasquinn is probably the single most academically qualified person on this forum. By age 8 he surpassed you intellectually. And it's "you're". Your = you possess something You're = you are You should've learned that in third grade. |
| gerry 25.04.2014 12:34 |
i do not need to tell you anything about myself,who the hell do you think you are? i am really hacked off with your sour remarks its all you can do on here, talk about "simpleton" you are the classic version of that. again if you do not like what i write then ignore my posts, you don not have to reply, infact i would rather you did not because you cant stoop any lower than what you have. |
| brENsKi 25.04.2014 12:34 |
gerry wrote: so please dont feed me all that shite to make yourself look smart because you are not.well that's something no one could ever accuse YOU of having been...smart it'd be a fucking imbecilic day in hell before YOU ended up looking smart |
| gerry 25.04.2014 12:35 |
you have made spelling mistakes on here too so do not get cocky with me! to be honest your just a cunt are you not??? |
| The Real Wizard 25.04.2014 12:36 |
Sorry, correction - an IQ over 50. I pity you. |
| gerry 25.04.2014 12:41 |
Do not want your pity, because i have got more intelligence in my little finger than you have in your one cell in your head. in your dreams. you have proven that your a nasty piece of work so please go away and torture someone else, and do not insult me. talk about been childish, look at your last 4 posts. |
| brENsKi 25.04.2014 12:43 |
gerry wrote: you have made spelling mistakes on here too so do not get cocky with me! to be honest your just a cunt are you not???Gerry, does your own abject stupidity make you cry?.....perhaps YOU are too stupid to realise that it should |
| gerry 25.04.2014 12:45 |
Brenski: now your bullying me now are you, FUCK OFF! |
| brENsKi 25.04.2014 12:54 |
gerry wrote: Brenski: now your bullying me now are you, FUCK OFF!well, if the truth hurts then you must be mortally wounded |
| gerry 25.04.2014 12:56 |
Brenski: your last warning go away. i am reporting you lot so be aware. bullying should not be taken lightly. |
| Chief Mouse 25.04.2014 12:56 |
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| The Real Wizard 25.04.2014 13:02 |
gerry wrote: Real wizard: i dont give a damn what thomas quinn is or not because this is just a site for passionate Queen fans not fucking university challenge. so please dont feed me all that shite to make yourself look smart because you are not.Another gerry-ism... that being passionate and being intellectual are mutually exclusive. But points to you for using the correct form of "you are" ... seriously. Positive feedback there. And I hate to break it to you, but I'm not trying to appear smart. This is how my brain works 24/7. I don't reserve using my brain for a university lecture hall. It's always in use. This is why many people here find the things I say here interesting and, conversely, why you end up in fights with people who are smarter than you every time you say something. |
| The Real Wizard 25.04.2014 13:05 |
gerry wrote: Brenski: your last warning go away. i am reporting you lot so be aware. bullying should not be taken lightly.This isn't bullying. Bullying is caused by a desire for power. What's happening here is people simply holding up the mirror to you, and you're in your shell resisting it. |
| gerry 25.04.2014 13:08 |
it is not how you are because you are always nasty and insultive to me on here and your little gang is the same. to be honest your not a good bunch of people to be with 24/7 you are sarcastic and never been friendly to me and always putting my posts down. you are arrogant as well saying "YOU WRITE INTERESTING AND CONVERSELY" oh give the seal a fish. people argue on here with me because they are all sheep and do not have an opinion of there own. They just want to be in this pathetic exclusive little gang! No wonder not many new people come on here if that is how you treat them all. |
| The Real Wizard 25.04.2014 13:11 |
gerry wrote: people argue on here with me because they are all sheep and do not have an opinion of there own.People don't argue with you. You argue with them because you don't have the capacity to understand why the things that people point out about you are accurate. There = a place, or pointing something out They're = they are Their = possessive And you're trying to convince people that you have a speck of intelligence? Reading comprehension Proof-reading Critical thinking ^ all of these have passed by you. Take this as free life counseling and do something about it. |
| gerry 25.04.2014 13:16 |
The only person on here who gave me some intelligent conversation was "Holly" and that person did NOT go on like a complete loony like you lot have. Further more HOLLY did not slag me off. We chatted and told each other what we liked and that was it. learn and conduct an intelligent conversation, and do not get personal. Do not be clever and say " oh you have spelt that wrong" trying to get points. so childish. |
| The Real Wizard 25.04.2014 13:18 |
You're right. Having good grammar is childish. I stand corrected. You're telling me to learn and be intelligent? Seriously? I'd cry if I wasn't losing my lunch laughing. |
| brENsKi 25.04.2014 13:21 |
gerry wrote: you are no better than anyone else on here shit head. You think you better than me, well your not, your just a jumped up opinionated arse hole. gerry wrote: no one is asking YOU to make any contribution on here so just stay out of it. [snip] If you do not agree with what i say then shut the fuck up. gerry wrote:As i said to the other muppets on here if you dont like what you read, jog on. . gerry wrote: just go away and fucking die cos im tired of all this bitching. you chose to slag them off because its you who can not get your thick head round what i am saying. gerry wrote: Real wizard: i guess your right i could not sink any lower, replying to such a bunch of pricks on here, you been the biggest of them all. gerry wrote:You have even upset folk from newcastle too what a complete tosser you really are. listen twat if you cant take it back do not dish it out ok. To be honest i cannot believe you are a real Queen fan insulting Freddie and john Deacon, your just a laugh a minute gerry wrote:Ah here comes another arsehole in the shape of Real Wizard, well i would change you name to Real W**ker! gerry wrote:I will be the adult here as many of you are childish, and i will say i am not replying back to your juvenile posts. i am the bigger man here so dont forget that! gerry wrote: again if you do not like what i write then ignore my posts, you don not have to reply, infact i would rather you did not because you cant stoop any lower than what you have. gerry wrote: you have made spelling mistakes on here too so do not get cocky with me! to be honest your just a cunt are you not??? gerry wrote: Do not want your pity, because i have got more intelligence in my little finger than you have in your one cell in your head. in your dreams. gerry wrote: Brenski: now your bullying me now are you, FUCK OFF!Formal introduction time - Bully meet mirror, mirror meet Gerry |
| gerry 25.04.2014 13:22 |
well go and spout off elsewhere as i am not interested. you are as boring as having diarrhoea. infact you speak a load of shit. Why dont you go and work for BBC3. |
| brENsKi 25.04.2014 13:23 |
gerry wrote: Do not be clever and say " oh you have spelt that wrong" trying to get points.so childish.didn't YOU once say you'd make a great journalist? I think the prosecution case against you can now rest |
| gerry 25.04.2014 13:31 |
i am not bothered what you think Brenski. your a sad excuse for a human being. its you lot that have got to 10 pages long now. i have told you once to go way so now i have reported you and real wizard. and..... if i have to, will get legal advice for you bullying and putting me down on here. do not answer back because i will not reply, been the bigger man than you will ever be. tell me is it a natural thing for you been a complete virus?? |
| brENsKi 25.04.2014 13:38 |
report people for what? refusing to surrender to an imbecile? well, that's a new crime in Gerryworld isn't it? no one forces you to reply. seriously though, well done on the correct spelling of "legal advice" - that's a first for YOU. kinda ironic when you think about it |
| brenskisfrontbottom 25.04.2014 14:23 |
The Real Wanker wrote: You're right. Having good grammar is childish. I stand corrected. You're telling me to learn and be intelligent? Seriously? I'd cry if I wasn't losing my lunch laughing.I think correcting peoples grammar on a music fansite is a touch pompous. |
| matt z 25.04.2014 18:52 |
Hmm. THIS is classic QZ. Gotta love it. And people say this place is bad! .... |
| musicland munich 25.04.2014 20:23 |
^ Yes...and he is "completely focused" or whatever this thread is all about. |
| Gregsynth 25.04.2014 23:58 |
Thanks for the grammar review The Real Wanker! :) |
| Vocal harmony 26.04.2014 12:17 |
So if Gerry is no longer going to reply in this thread, are we once again free to have an opinion with out the risk of being accused of not being a Queen fan or being called an endless catalogue of names? |
| The Real Wizard 27.04.2014 00:58 |
brenskisfrontbottom wrote:I wouldn't normally do it, but this particular fellow in question came out of the gate with a double digit IQ and a superiority complex. Someone had to put him in his place. Luckily I had plenty of help.The Real Wanker wrote: You're right. Having good grammar is childish. I stand corrected. You're telling me to learn and be intelligent? Seriously? I'd cry if I wasn't losing my lunch laughing.I think correcting peoples grammar on a music fansite is a touch pompous. |
| The Real Wizard 27.04.2014 00:59 |
Vocal harmony wrote: So if Gerry is no longer going to reply in this thread, are we once again free to have an opinion with out the risk of being accused of not being a Queen fan or being called an endless catalogue of names?So sad it ends.. |
| Vocal harmony 27.04.2014 12:18 |
. . . . As it began! |
| Battler 10.05.2014 04:34 |
- gerry: Don't bother with the ones insulting you. They are part of the same gang that went brutally against David R. Fuller because he decided to be the Edward Snowden of Fanthology, and then they went brutally against GratefulFan for daring to defend him. I guess you're their next target. Just ignore them, you'll be better off. |
| Mike G 11.05.2014 07:48 |
I agree with the last poster...People on Queenzone love going after die hard Freddie Mercury Fans, like that's the worst thing in the world?...claiming their Freddie only stepfords, meanwhile you have guy's like "Real Wizzard" Who will defend Brian may know matter what he does...Robbie williams, Adam Lambert , The cosmo rocks, American Idol...The guy could do no wrong in this guy's eye's....Who's the real stefords around here? |
| Vocal harmony 11.05.2014 12:04 |
Mike G I think you may be confusing the defence of someones right to choose their own path and destiny, with defending the outcome of some of those choices. |
| Stick 11.05.2014 13:24 |
This was a fucking hilarious read. As always; If it were easy to make the stupid see how stupid they really are there wouldn't be so many of them. |
| The Real Wizard 13.05.2014 14:12 |
Mike G wrote: claiming their Freddie only stepfordsOh great, another double digit IQ.. How do they all end up here? |
| The Real Wizard 13.05.2014 14:12 |
Stick wrote: This was a fucking hilarious read. As always; If it were easy to make the stupid see how stupid they really are there wouldn't be so many of them.And the smart tend to make it here now and again too. Welcome! |
| thomasquinn 32989 13.05.2014 14:22 |
Battler wrote: - gerry: Don't bother with the ones insulting you. They are part of the same gang that went brutally against David R. Fuller because he decided to be the Edward Snowden of Fanthology, and then they went brutally against GratefulFan for daring to defend him. I guess you're their next target. Just ignore them, you'll be better off.Ahhh, I was wondering when the conspiracy theories would come in! Oh, by the way: The Real Wizard and I are communist Illuminati Reptilians, just like the Fanthology. We seek to overthrow the world and establish a New World Order where rare Queen recordings are the universal currency. Remember, you heard it from me first! |