QueenZone discussion #1376734

Benn Kempster wrote: Thoughts? Yes. Please read the umpteen hundreds of threads that cover this topic in detail. Absolutely no reason for there to be another going over the same old ground.

Heavenite wrote: It depends I think. If the stuff isn't album standard, then I think a box of bits and pieces including demos would be great. However, if the stuff is up to par though, I am more than happy for them to get it out there as an official release. I mean most people were happy with Made in Heaven (says Heavenite!...lol!) and if the new album is great, then they will do fine releasing it as such in my book. However, if there is a substanial drop off in standard, then it could well be that Queen are moving down the Hendrix/Bolan path. Having said that, based on Made in HeavenI,I doubt there would be a problem with Brian and Roger in charge. I trust them to make the right call(s) in relation to this matter.

brENsKi wrote: The problem is we're all experts on this subject - yet, in reality, none of us are. I'd like to add one important thought to this. My favourite Beatles album is Abbey Rd - stick with me there is a point here (somewhere). Over the years I've often pondered why I like that album especially. Oh I know which songs i like, and which little tempo changes and solos etc. And sure, Something, Here Comes The Sun, Sun King, Octopus' Garden, Oh Darling & Come Together are incredible songs....but that's not why this is my favourite beatles album...you know why I love it? SIDE TWO: all those tiny litttle pieces of tracks spliced and diced into what is a piece of genius - those "side 2" medleys are without doubt the finest sections of contemporary music production/editing I've had the privilege to enjoy. When this section of the album was crafted Lennon was hooked on Yoko and Heroin (allegedly) and didn't bother turning up for months on end, Ringo was all but left - skiing again, George wasn't speaking to Paul and for all intents and purposes the beatles had split - 18 months before they officially split. This left Paul and George Martin to sit over miles of snippets of tape to labour with affection and and craft a work of loving genius. I suppose what I'm saying is - queen as we know it split in 1991 and again in 1995 and then finally in 1997....But that doesn't mean that there's any piece of any track anywhere that can't be used in a similar way - if love and care are applied to the process. So as far as I'm concerned - anything they see fit to include is ok with me - if they want to make 35 minutes of medleys etc - so long as it works, I'm in favour. Sermon over

gerry wrote: 1. Queen will never give you everything you want because the record company stopped them the last time delux versions of the albums came out a few years back. 2. Jackie Gunn at the fan club promised us fans box sets years ago which never happened, just more lies and to be honest Queen fans are treated badly by the record companies and the band. 3. When you see Beatles fans getting new product all the time or Marc Bolan having box sets released you say to yourself. "Why do us Queen fans wait and wait and wait and when we do we just get reissues or something we know on cd. 4. Freddie said on his last radio one interview back in 1989, that there was loads of songs Queen had worked on 5. but just left by the way side, 5 years later in 1994 Brian denied all of this and said there was nothing left to use, now he says they have just found new tracks to work on, yeah right! 6. A bit more respect to the fans please!

Vocal harmony wrote: brENsKi well put and well explained

brENsKi wrote: Tom, I don't dispute what you're saying - it's a valid opinion, as are most offered in this thread (mine included i hope).  However,Brian has proven his own memory unreliable when asked stuff before by fans. Now whether that is 100% "poor memory"  or 100%  "selectively poor" none of us will ever know. There are at least two indisputable facts in all of this:  1. Due to fantology, studio thieves and various collectors a huge chunk of stuff has "leaked" down the years - look at the FM box set - a vast quantity of that was "out there" before the official release.  2. The quality of the tracks already "in the wild" is questionable - sure, some complete songs like Feelings, Feelings and Dog with A Bone are fun - but not great songs, and many many others that we've heard are nothing more than embryonic - with verses/choruses "la la'd" along to in the absence of lyrics. These are not workable now in any sense other than the aforementioned "medley" idea. The point here is, in all reality there's no new "Bo Rhap" "Somebody to Love" or "Seven Seas of Rhye" - Hell, if what we've heard (so far) is anything to go by (and that's ALL WE DO HAVE as a measure) then whatever there is that's workable or complete are probably no better than album fillers/curios. You say you can't believe there's not enough in the vaults to be released? Can I leave you with one key consideration? Not trying to piss on your bonfire here, but honestly, what if there really isn't that much worth doing anything with? Perhaps there really isn't?  or - What if they don't want to work on it? perhaps they genuinely don't like most of it? perhaps they even hate it? let's face it,at the time of writing/recording it wasn't good enough to finish/release/work on.... then.why should it be now? if this is the case then all the begging, pleading and beseeching in the world won't change their minds. If you worked on something thirty years ago that you didn't like or lost interest in, and had no interest in going back to it now - would YOU bother?

Heavenite wrote: That's all possible. But against all that you have the fact that most people loved Made In Heaven. So the question is whether Brian, (?John) and Roger will be able to work their magic once more and put out something that is worth the name Queen. I like to believe they wouldn't be doing it if they couldn't achieve that outcome, but the proof is in the pudding I guess.