marc.s 04.03.2014 22:02 |
ok so what do you guys think is Freddie's greatest studio vocal on a single track Queen or solo? For me it's the alternate Guide me Home /How Can I Go On from the box set. This is a truly uplifting piece to me and always makes me feel great. The control, tone, and the notes reached are just excellent. It's hard to choose one but Guide Me Home\ How Can I Go On is mine and I'm interested to know others opinions, and choices. |
cmsdrums 05.03.2014 00:44 |
'You Take My Breath Away'. (though ask me another day and I'll say something different such as 'The Show Must Go On' or 'Somebody to Love') |
Gregsynth 05.03.2014 00:52 |
The Show Must Go On. |
tcc 05.03.2014 02:34 |
Save Me Don't Stop Me Now |
Raffy 05.03.2014 03:06 |
"Don't try so hard"... incredible control and exquisite technique! |
Raffy 05.03.2014 03:13 |
As for his "solo" stuff, I'd say "The fallen priest", with the intro for "Love is the hero" as a worthy contender. |
marc.s 05.03.2014 03:27 |
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marc.s 05.03.2014 03:31 |
The Show Must Go On would be in my top 5 vocs for sure. It does give a chill to realize Freddie knew he was on borrowed time and managed to deliver such a performance. |
marc.s 05.03.2014 03:32 |
And Don't Try So Hard should have been a single IMO |
marc.s 05.03.2014 03:34 |
Raffy I much prefer The Fallen Priest from the original Barcelona, I find to my ears that they backed off on the vocal somewhat when they added the real orchestra , I don't know maybe its all in my mind lol ;) |
marc.s 05.03.2014 03:36 |
Oh and Greg if you read this , I know you've studied Freddie's vocal range. In which song does he cover the most distance from lows to highs? |
marlenas 05.03.2014 03:40 |
pls u need to watch that is is really good how he is singing fredie's songs for sure Freddie was only one but he is pretty good ..... link link i am waiting for any opinions cuz i truly love that |
Raffy 05.03.2014 04:14 |
marc.s wrote: Raffy I much prefer The Fallen Priest from the original Barcelona, I find to my ears that they backed off on the vocal somewhat when they added the real orchestra , I don't know maybe its all in my mind lol ;)Original 1988 Barcelona album was far superior than the 2012 release. In my opinion the 2012 edition sounds too flat and weak in the arrangments.... it lacks that "Freddie Mercury magic touch" to give strenght and power. |
Raffy 05.03.2014 04:19 |
The only composition which has improved with this "new dress" is Exercises in free love, 2012 version is spine chilling... link |
cmsdrums 05.03.2014 04:34 |
marc.s wrote: Oh and Greg if you read this , I know you've studied Freddie's vocal range. In which song does he cover the most distance from lows to highs?Not many lows in 'One Year of Love' but its sung really high amd powerfully but with no falsetto; all really 'full on'. PErhaps the key for this song could have been better? However, for that very reason it's one of my least favourite Freddie vocal performances as he doesn't bring much light and shade, and is probably one of the only times when I could accuse him of 'oversinging' in relation to what was needed for the track. I dare anyone else try to sing it like that though!! |
marc.s 05.03.2014 04:42 |
Raffy wrote:I totally agree I always add Exercises in free love to My original Barcelona playlist and tag Guide Me Home/ How Can I Go On alt version to the end, the whole thing is an awesome listening experience.marc.s wrote: Raffy I much prefer The Fallen Priest from the original Barcelona, I find to my ears that they backed off on the vocal somewhat when they added the real orchestra , I don't know maybe its all in my mind lol ;)Original 1988 Barcelona album was far superior than the 2012 release. In my opinion the 2012 edition sounds too flat and weak in the arrangments.... it lacks that "Freddie Mercury magic touch" to give strenght and power. |
marc.s 05.03.2014 04:46 |
cmsdrums wrote:hi cms I must be one of the few people to like OYOL and yeah he certainly belts it out in a way that was maybe uncharacteristic for Freddie's repertoire. Maybe a piano version would have had more appeal to the majority?marc.s wrote: Oh and Greg if you read this , I know you've studied Freddie's vocal range. In which song does he cover the most distance from lows to highs?Not many lows in 'One Year of Love' but its sung really high amd powerfully but with no falsetto; all really 'full on'. PErhaps the key for this song could have been better? However, for that very reason it's one of my least favourite Freddie vocal performances as he doesn't bring much light and shade, and is probably one of the only times when I could accuse him of 'oversinging' in relation to what was needed for the track. I dare anyone else try to sing it like that though!! |
andyb1968 05.03.2014 05:13 |
Exersizes in free love really shows off Freddie's range, but I think that middle section in mother love is staggering, the vision I have of him taking a slug of vodka, barely standing up and then giving it the beans ! Always does it for me. |
marc.s 05.03.2014 05:47 |
andyb1968 wrote: Exersizes in free love really shows off Freddie's range, but I think that middle section in mother love is staggering, the vision I have of him taking a slug of vodka, barely standing up and then giving it the beans ! Always does it for me.yeah Mother Love is quite a performance considering Freddie most certainly knew his days were numbered. His attitude at the end IMO was inspirational. |
Raffy 05.03.2014 06:13 |
cmsdrums wrote: Not many lows in 'One Year of Love' but its sung really high amd powerfully but with no falsetto; all really 'full on'. PErhaps the key for this song could have been better? However, for that very reason it's one of my least favourite Freddie vocal performances as he doesn't bring much light and shade, and is probably one of the only times when I could accuse him of 'oversinging' in relation to what was needed for the track. I dare anyone else try to sing it like that though!!Uniqueness of Freddie's voice properly consists in this: in some 80's songs like The hero, Let's turn it on, One year of love, Gimme the prize, Scandal he tend a little bit to oversing (maybe just to push his potential to the limit) but he manages anyway to maintain an high rate of powerness and strength even on such high pitched notes... incredible control and acknowledgment of his capabilities. |
Heavenite 05.03.2014 06:51 |
I think Somebody to Love is way up there. For belting one out I think Another One Bites the Dust is a very clever vocal too! One Year Of Love is Freddie's worst vocal in my opinion. |
brENsKi 05.03.2014 07:31 |
Heavenite wrote: I think Somebody to Love is way up there.was just going to say this ^^^^ am surprised no one suggested it previously would also add "Nevermore" and "Who Needs You" |
marc.s 05.03.2014 07:38 |
brENsKi wrote:Nevermore and Who Needs You amongst his best vocals, intriguing. Somebody To Love is certainly great although live it became even more powerful as a vocal IMOHeavenite wrote: I think Somebody to Love is way up there.was just going to say this ^^^^ am surprised no one suggested it previously would also add "Nevermore" and "Who Needs You" |
marc.s 05.03.2014 07:43 |
Heavenite wrote: I think Somebody to Love is way up there. For belting one out I think Another One Bites the Dust is a very clever vocal too! One Year Of Love is Freddie's worst vocal in my opinion.Either Brian or Roger i think (correct me someone if im wrong) said Freddie sang until his throat bled on Another One Bites The Dust to try to get across the amount of work he put into it. |
Raffy 05.03.2014 08:19 |
Jesus, Misfire, Who Needs You, Coming Soon, vast majority of Hot Space tracks, Pain Is So Close to Pleasure, Rain Must Fall, My Baby Does Me, Stealin', Delilah are pretty good examples of weak songs brightened up by the voice of Freddie. Let's face it: he was even able to sing the phone book and make it sound like a masterpiece :) |
brENsKi 05.03.2014 08:56 |
Raffy wrote: Let's face it: he was even able to sing the phone book and make it sound like a masterpiece :)not really. i don't recall him doing this...so where's your proof he was able to do this? secondly, what possible vocal range would be required for singing out of a phone book? |
tcc 05.03.2014 09:01 |
cmsdrums wrote: Not many lows in 'One Year of Love' but its sung really high amd powerfully but with no falsetto; all really 'full on'. PErhaps the key for this song could have been better? However, for that very reason it's one of my least favourite Freddie vocal performances as he doesn't bring much light and shade, and is probably one of the only times when I could accuse him of 'oversinging' in relation to what was needed for the track. I dare anyone else try to sing it like that though!!I think a lot of people think there is "over-singing" in the first part of this song but I wonder why Freddie did not redo the recording ? |
andyb1968 05.03.2014 09:02 |
Somebody to love is a decent shout, extremely hard to sing properly, George Michael did a stunning job on it, didn't Freddie write it with Aretha Franklin in mind ? I'd love to have heard her record a version. |
marc.s 05.03.2014 09:19 |
andyb1968 wrote: Somebody to love is a decent shout, extremely hard to sing properly, George Michael did a stunning job on it, didn't Freddie write it with Aretha Franklin in mind ? I'd love to have heard her record a version.yeah George Michael is probably the only outside singer I've enjoyed doing a Queen song. He did a pretty good job of 39 and These Are the Days too |
pestgrid 05.03.2014 09:26 |
okay everyone listen to the 12' track of Its a Hard Life,in the middle of the song where the original 7' ends, the track goes on and Freddie gives his best vocal take ever, the take was made during the sessions in LA and freddie achieves his highest note whilst staying within his normal singing range without going soprano.......this is by far his best vocal take and a shame it didnt end up on the greatest hits 2 version........ |
marc.s 05.03.2014 09:39 |
pestgrid wrote: okay everyone listen to the 12' track of Its a Hard Life,in the middle of the song where the original 7' ends, the track goes on and Freddie gives his best vocal take ever, the take was made during the sessions in LA and freddie achieves his highest note whilst staying within his normal singing range without going soprano.......this is by far his best vocal take and a shame it didnt end up on the greatest hits 2 version........hmmm not listened to this for a while I'll dig it out |
cmsdrums 05.03.2014 10:01 |
brENsKi wrote:Heavenite wrote: I think Somebody to Love is way up there.am surprised no one suggested it previously |
cmsdrums 05.03.2014 10:05 |
marc.s wrote:True that '...Dust' is a great vocal, but equally so it was a vocal (maybe the only one ever..not sure?) of his that was pitch shifted up in the studio, so he didn't sing it quite in that key.Heavenite wrote: I think Somebody to Love is way up there. For belting one out I think Another One Bites the Dust is a very clever vocal too! One Year Of Love is Freddie's worst vocal in my opinion.Either Brian or Roger i think (correct me someone if im wrong) said Freddie sang until his throat bled on Another One Bites The Dust to try to get across the amount of work he put into it. |
Raffy 05.03.2014 10:10 |
brENsKi wrote: secondly, what possible vocal range would be required for singing out of a phone book?Isn't about "range" but about vocal timbre. Freddie even if he had a range of 3 and a half octaves is not THE greatest when we speak about range. Is one of the greatest but not the greatest. There are many singers whom with 1-2 octave extension have had a wonderful career and sang so many memorable songs, the thing that strikes most (at least I speak on a personal level) is the vocal tone and in my humble opinion here Freddie was second to none. I bet its extended version of "Singing the phone book" would reach the top of the charts in a blink of an eye ;) (irony mode on) |
musicland munich 05.03.2014 10:25 |
"Too much love will kill you" ...but yes, ask me another day and I will change opinion. |
Raffy 05.03.2014 10:49 |
musicland munich wrote: "Too much love will kill you" ...but yes, ask me another day and I will change opinion.My favourite Queen tune along with Was It All Worth It... never understood why Freddie didn't like the song as his performance is spot on (speaking about professionalism: the man didn't like the tune but anyway gave a stellar rendition). Maybe the song's theme made him think about his personal condition and the fact that actually "too much love" in the end was going to kill him. Sometimes people can see/find deep meanings in other's people compositions and often giving a better interpretation than the one of the original composer. Brian wrote it describing his personal situation but maybe Freddie, while sang it, relived the phantoms of his past... Any thoughts? |
master marathon runner 05.03.2014 11:00 |
.........and no one has mentioned"melancholy blues", (my), "the night comes down" and "lily of the valley"...........oh, and"the prophets song" and "love of my life" and erm, erm, "bohemian rhapsody" and, and........... |
marc.s 05.03.2014 11:09 |
Gregsynth wrote: The Show Must Go On.Greg if you read this , I know you've studied Freddie's vocal range. In which song does he cover the most distance from lows to highs? |
The Real Wizard 05.03.2014 11:11 |
Raffy wrote: vast majority of Hot Space tracksGlad someone mentioned this. We all know the record hasn't aged well and all that, but the vocal performances of most of the songs are definitely amongst his best. Body Language is probably my least favourite Queen song, but he sings his tits off. Staying Power, Back Chat and Life Is Real are great vocals too... and Cool Cat is his falsetto at its best. |
The Real Wizard 05.03.2014 11:12 |
marc.s wrote:I'd say All God's People. He hits some great lows in the choirs, and gets up to a high D in chest voice.Gregsynth wrote: The Show Must Go On.Greg if you read this , I know you've studied Freddie's vocal range. In which song does he cover the most distance from lows to highs? |
brENsKi 05.03.2014 11:12 |
Raffy wrote:brENsKi wrote: secondly, what possible vocal range would be required for singing out of a phone book?Isn't about "range" but about vocal timbre. Freddie even if he had a range of 3 and a half octaves is not THE greatest when we speak about range. Is one of the greatest but not the greatest. brENsKi wrote:you haven't addressed my first point....^^^ your comment implies you have heard his rendition of the phonebook...where/when was this "audio gold" available?Raffy wrote: Let's face it: he was even able to sing the phone book and make it sound like a masterpiece :)not really. i don't recall him doing this...so where's your proof he was able to do this? |
marc.s 05.03.2014 11:17 |
The Real Wizard wrote:Hot Space is a particular favorite of mine and I love every track on it yep including Body Language and Cool Cat. His vocals around this time were certainly strong . staying power vocals live we're awesome. I think as an album Mr Bad Guy has his strongest vocals across the board.Raffy wrote: vast majority of Hot Space tracksGlad someone mentioned this. We all know the record hasn't aged well and all that, but the vocal performances of most of the songs are definitely amongst his best. Body Language is probably my least favourite Queen song, but he sings his tits off. Staying Power, Back Chat and Life Is Real are great vocals too... and Cool Cat is his falsetto at its best. |
musicland munich 05.03.2014 12:04 |
Raffy wrote:I didn'think that he don't like it. The song was written by Brian around 88'. The song didn't fit for "The Miracle" in my opinion.musicland munich wrote: "Too much love will kill you" ...but yes, ask me another day and I will change opinion.My favourite Queen tune along with Was It All Worth It... never understood why Freddie didn't like the song as his performance is spot on (speaking about professionalism: the man didn't like the tune but anyway gave a stellar rendition). Maybe the song's theme made him think about his personal condition and the fact that actually "too much love" in the end was going to kill him. Sometimes people can see/find deep meanings in other's people compositions and often giving a better interpretation than the one of the original composer. Brian wrote it describing his personal situation but maybe Freddie, while sang it, relived the phantoms of his past... Any thoughts? |
master marathon runner 05.03.2014 12:09 |
Hot space has aged remarkably, like a good wine, it's a joy to listen to and a credible alternative to their Rockier albums. |
andyb1968 05.03.2014 12:16 |
Ye I agree about hot space, never liked it or listened to it much when it came out, but I really like it now ! Don't know whether its an age thing, or its an album before its time . |
Gregsynth 05.03.2014 12:52 |
marc.s wrote:Oooooh...Gregsynth wrote: The Show Must Go On.Greg if you read this , I know you've studied Freddie's vocal range. In which song does he cover the most distance from lows to highs? On vocal range alone, I would probably say Somebody To Love. Freddie sings Ab2 to Ab5 on the studio version. |
Gregsynth 05.03.2014 12:54 |
The Real Wizard wrote:He also sings a head-voiced F5!marc.s wrote:I'd say All God's People. He hits some great lows in the choirs, and gets up to a high D in chest voice.Gregsynth wrote: The Show Must Go On.Greg if you read this , I know you've studied Freddie's vocal range. In which song does he cover the most distance from lows to highs? |
BradMay 05.03.2014 14:04 |
The Real Wizard wrote:High F...marc.s wrote:I'd say All God's People. He hits some great lows in the choirs, and gets up to a high D in chest voice.Gregsynth wrote: The Show Must Go On.Greg if you read this , I know you've studied Freddie's vocal range. In which song does he cover the most distance from lows to highs? |
BradMay 05.03.2014 14:05 |
Gregsynth wrote:Was that head-voiced? I thought it was mixed?.. Still connected to the chest.The Real Wizard wrote:He also sings a head-voiced F5!marc.s wrote:I'd say All God's People. He hits some great lows in the choirs, and gets up to a high D in chest voice.Gregsynth wrote: The Show Must Go On.Greg if you read this , I know you've studied Freddie's vocal range. In which song does he cover the most distance from lows to highs? |
kosimodo 05.03.2014 15:08 |
I like His singing in lily og the valey... Suprised nobody so far mentioned it;) |
al bundy 05.03.2014 16:17 |
was is it all worth it and mother love as roger said: absolutely spine-chilling |
Shumway 05.03.2014 17:42 |
I don't know anything about the actual notes or ranges, but in my opinion, Freddie's best ever vocal performance was recorded in 'Teo Torriatte'. This is best heard on the Japanese HD mix. His vocals sound glorious. |
Sheer Brass Neck 05.03.2014 18:46 |
It's late |
marc.s 05.03.2014 21:39 |
Gregsynth wrote:cheers Greg , oh and Greg I think I read before you mentioned The Hero and apparently Freddie sang it live in the original key one time before dropping it. What was the gig and is there a boot available?marc.s wrote:Oooooh... On vocal range alone, I would probably say Somebody To Love. Freddie sings Ab2 to Ab5 on the studio version.Gregsynth wrote: The Show Must Go On.Greg if you read this , I know you've studied Freddie's vocal range. In which song does he cover the most distance from lows to highs? |
marc.s 05.03.2014 21:48 |
master marathon runner wrote: Hot space has aged remarkably, like a good wine, it's a joy to listen to and a credible alternative to their Rockier albums.yeah along with The Game Sheer Heart Attack, Jazz and The Works it's among my most listened to Queen albums |
Gregsynth 05.03.2014 22:09 |
marc.s wrote:Gregsynth wrote:cheers Greg , oh and Greg I think I read before you mentioned The Hero and apparently Freddie sang it live in the original key one time before dropping it. What was the gig and is there a boot available?marc.s wrote:Oooooh... On vocal range alone, I would probably say Somebody To Love. Freddie sings Ab2 to Ab5 on the studio version.Gregsynth wrote: The Show Must Go On.Greg if you read this , I know you've studied Freddie's vocal range. In which song does he cover the most distance from lows to highs? It's Essen 1980! The performance starts at 1:00. All I can say is that The Real Wizard loves this version, and Roger's "The Hero" on this performance! |
marc.s 05.03.2014 22:52 |
Gregsynth wrote:marc.s wrote:It's Essen 1980! The performance starts at 1:00. All I can say is that The Real Wizard loves this version, and Roger's "The Hero" on this performance!Gregsynth wrote:cheers Greg , oh and Greg I think I read before you mentioned The Hero and apparently Freddie sang it live in the original key one time before dropping it. What was the gig and is there a boot available?marc.s wrote:cheers Greg I'll check it out ;) Oooooh... On vocal range alone, I would probably say Somebody To Love. Freddie sings Ab2 to Ab5 on the studio version.Gregsynth wrote: The Show Must Go On.Greg if you read this , I know you've studied Freddie's vocal range. In which song does he cover the most distance from lows to highs? |
marc.s 05.03.2014 22:53 |
marc.s wrote:cheers Greg I'll check it out ;)Gregsynth wrote:marc.s wrote:It's Essen 1980! The performance starts at 1:00. All I can say is that The Real Wizard loves this version, and Roger's "The Hero" on this performance!Gregsynth wrote:cheers Greg , oh and Greg I think I read before you mentioned The Hero and apparently Freddie sang it live in the original key one time before dropping it. What was the gig and is there a boot available?marc.s wrote:cheers Greg I'll check it out ;) Oooooh... On vocal range alone, I would probably say Somebody To Love. Freddie sings Ab2 to Ab5 on the studio version.Gregsynth wrote: The Show Must Go On.Greg if you read this , I know you've studied Freddie's vocal range. In which song does he cover the most distance from lows to highs? |
master marathon runner 06.03.2014 01:55 |
kosimodo wrote: I like His singing in lily og the valey... Suprised nobody so far mentioned it;)I mentioned it !! I think the"hot space" nay-Sayers, should perhaps go back to, and re-assess the album and see if it really was ahead of it's time. I mean this pertinently . |
marc.s 06.03.2014 02:12 |
master marathon runner wrote:A lot of people have an issue with the production on Hot Space but I've always thought Mack was extremely talented and for me it definitely stands up. It entertains me from start to finish. The vocals on Body Language, Staying Power, Back Chat and Cool Cat are first rate IMOkosimodo wrote: I like His singing in lily og the valey... Suprised nobody so far mentioned it;)I mentioned it !! I think the"hot space" nay-Sayers, should perhaps go back to, and re-assess the album and see if it really was ahead of it's time. I mean this pertinently . |
cmsdrums 06.03.2014 02:27 |
The Real Wizard wrote: ....and Cool Cat is his falsetto at its best.Absolutely agree. Whilst it's not a favourite song of mine by any means, it is authentic to the style it is in, and as you say, the vocal is so controlled and brilliantly executed in falsetto without wailing, r sounding forced or too much like a spoof/pastiche. (whereas Barry Gibb sounds absolutely ridiculous on a lot of his material recorded in falsetto - why he thought that just cos 'Staying Alive' suited that style it would then work on everything else the Bee Gees subsequently released, is quite beyond me!!) |
marc.s 06.03.2014 02:28 |
The Real Wizard wrote:funnily enough I was just reading an old interview with Brian May and Nuno bettoncourt where Nuno states: BETTENCOURT: "All God's People" is my favorite track. It's chilling. And I think it's one of my favorite tracks from innuendo along with TSMGO and IGSM. Great vocsmarc.s wrote:I'd say All God's People. He hits some great lows in the choirs, and gets up to a high D in chest voice.Gregsynth wrote: The Show Must Go On.Greg if you read this , I know you've studied Freddie's vocal range. In which song does he cover the most distance from lows to highs? |
marc.s 06.03.2014 02:29 |
marc.s wrote:The Real Wizard wrote:funnily enough I was just reading an old interview with Brian May and Nuno bettoncourt where Nuno states: BETTENCOURT: "All God's People" is my favorite track. It's chilling" . And I agree i think it's one of my favorite tracks from innuendo along with TSMGO and IGSM. Great vocsmarc.s wrote:I'd say All God's People. He hits some great lows in the choirs, and gets up to a high D in chest voice.Gregsynth wrote: The Show Must Go On.Greg if you read this , I know you've studied Freddie's vocal range. In which song does he cover the most distance from lows to highs? |
marc.s 06.03.2014 02:31 |
cmsdrums wrote:I'm a huge Bowie fan but I'm glad he objected to his backing vocals because I don't think they added much. I much prefer the Hot Space version .The Real Wizard wrote: ....and Cool Cat is his falsetto at its best.Absolutely agree. Whilst it's not a favourite song of mine by any means, it is authentic to the style it is in, and as you say, the vocal is so controlled and brilliantly executed in falsetto without wailing, r sounding forced or too much like a spoof/pastiche. (whereas Barry Gibb sounds absolutely ridiculous on a lot of his material recorded in falsetto - why he thought that just cos 'Staying Alive' suited that style it would then work on everything else the Bee Gees subsequently released, is quite beyond me!!) |
ITSM 06.03.2014 07:33 |
To "choose" which song Freddie Mercury sang the best is a really hard "choice." He was the best. I think In the Lap of the Gods and My Melancoly Blues might be some of them (if you just consider his voice), but there are so many great songs - all of Hot Space, Innuendo and A Day at the Races are just great. Also My Fairy King etc... |
marc.s 06.03.2014 07:37 |
ITSM wrote: To "choose" which song Freddie Mercury sang the best is a really hard "choice." He was the best. I think In the Lap of the Gods and My Melancoly Blues might be some of them (if you just consider his voice), but there are so many great songs - all of Hot Space, Innuendo and A Day at the Races are just great. Also My Fairy King etc...I read somewhere that people thought Freddie didn't care during the recording process but wow he sang his heart out on that album. |
marc.s 06.03.2014 07:38 |
marc.s wrote:ITSM wrote: To "choose" which song Freddie Mercury sang the best is a really hard "choice." He was the best. I think In the Lap of the Gods and My Melancoly Blues might be some of them (if you just consider his voice), but there are so many great songs - all of Hot Space, Innuendo and A Day at the Races are just great. Also My Fairy King etc...I read somewhere that people thought Freddie didn't care during the recording process but wow he sang his heart out on that album. (Hot Space) |
master marathon runner 06.03.2014 09:34 |
.........bloody hell, - I forgot the Millionaire Waltz. |
master marathon runner 06.03.2014 09:35 |
.......oh, and Killer Queen. |
k-m 06.03.2014 10:53 |
The Show Must Go On - incredible vocals, final release and a big hit, especially over time. |
cmsdrums 06.03.2014 13:01 |
Most of A Day At The Races too; it was the album where he nailed everything, and reached the perfect point of power (Tie Your Morher Down, White Man), finesse (Good Old Fashioned Lover Boy) and control (You Take My Breath Away) without having any of the 'warble' which is still present at points on A Night At The Opera, the thinness from the debut album, or straining present in other places. The whole of ADATR is perfect vocally for me. |
GAP 06.03.2014 13:04 |
It is really difficult to choose only one but my suggestions would be Soul Brother, My Fairy King, The Hero, Dancer, Save Me, Put Out The Fire, Time and One Year Of Love due to Freddie's amazing and beautiful changes of high tones. |
malicedoom 06.03.2014 13:41 |
The Show Must Go On |
Djdownsy 06.03.2014 15:33 |
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned 'In My Defense'. I mean, one take? How many people pull that vocal out in ONE TAKE??? |
The Real Wizard 06.03.2014 15:56 |
GAP wrote: Soul BrotherI always forget about that one. Undoubtedly one of his best vocals ever. In fact, I'd even argue it's one of the best Queen songs ever. Of all the Queen tracks from the middle era that seem to get lost amongst the big hits, this is one I wish people would have heard. It's classic Queen at their best, with Freddie channeling his inner Aretha to the fullest. |
brENsKi 06.03.2014 16:50 |
Djdownsy wrote: I'm surprised nobody has mentioned 'In My Defense'. I mean, one take? How many people pull that vocal out in ONE TAKE???yes, but he was "on a promise" with a taxi waiting outside to take him to a "club" |
GAP 06.03.2014 17:50 |
Yeah, Bob. Soul Brother is a Freddie's excellent vocal high tone song. Perhaps is not from most of the fans favs but it is out of classical queen song with a deep feeling and tribute message to his brother, Brian. |
GAP 06.03.2014 18:16 |
And I made an unforgettable mistake. In My Defense is instead of Time. I didn't know what I was thinking about at that moment. |
The King Of Rhye 07.03.2014 00:37 |
True that '...Dust' is a great vocal, but equally so it was a vocal (maybe the only one ever..not sure?) of his that was pitch shifted up in the studio, so he didn't sing it quite in that key.The whole thing was shifted up a half step....so its actually in F but was performed in E (I remember that from seeing the guitar tab!) I dont think anyone mentioned You're My Best Friend....not the biggest range on that song, I think, but just an awesome TONE from Freddie! And I've always loved his singing on You And I....especially the bridge, how he gets just a bit of a growl in his voice.... |
Gregsynth 07.03.2014 03:40 |
Another One Bites The Dust runs half a semitone too fast on the studio version (varispeed thing). |
Bruno P. 07.03.2014 04:15 |
In My Defence, I guess? Tough call. |
Raffy 07.03.2014 04:38 |
cmsdrums wrote: Most of A Day At The Races too; it was the album where he nailed everything, and reached the perfect point of power (Tie Your Morher Down, White Man), finesse (Good Old Fashioned Lover Boy) and control (You Take My Breath Away) without having any of the 'warble' which is still present at points on A Night At The Opera, the thinness from the debut album, or straining present in other places. The whole of ADATR is perfect vocally for me.Yeah speaking about "whole album performances" ADATR must be on the "top 5". From my personal point of view anyway he reached his peak in the '70s with Jazz and in the '80s with The Miracle. |
marc.s 07.03.2014 08:09 |
The Real Wizard wrote:yeah I remember seeing this coupled with Under Pressure when it came out and being excited about two brand new Queen tracks. I also remember reading somewhere that Freddie threw it out quite fast because they needed a BSide.GAP wrote: Soul BrotherI always forget about that one. Undoubtedly one of his best vocals ever. In fact, I'd even argue it's one of the best Queen songs ever. Of all the Queen tracks from the middle era that seem to get lost amongst the big hits, this is one I wish people would have heard. It's classic Queen at their best, with Freddie channeling his inner Aretha to the fullest. |
marc.s 07.03.2014 08:19 |
cmsdrums wrote: Most of A Day At The Races too; it was the album where he nailed everything, and reached the perfect point of power (Tie Your Morher Down, White Man), finesse (Good Old Fashioned Lover Boy) and control (You Take My Breath Away) without having any of the 'warble' which is still present at points on A Night At The Opera, the thinness from the debut album, or straining present in other places. The whole of ADATR is perfect vocally for me.hi cms when you're taking about warble on ANATO , which songs are you referring to and which bit? |
Chief Mouse 07.03.2014 08:20 |
Hard to say. Definately some of the 70s stuff is up there. But if we are talking about the famous *big* voiced Freddie people tend to recognise, I think it's the 80s, to be more precise the mid-80s. By that point he got to even higher notes, more grit and more vibrato which makes it sound very powerful. As someone already mentioned, Freddie could make even a boring (or bad) song sound exciting just by singing it out in a unique way. For example, Body Language is shite, but the way he sings the high parts is wow. Tear It Up 2:01 in this video link "oooooh". Also ITLOTG:R from this very same concert "so funny.... my money....". His voice was in bad shape here but he still managed to make such a sound that I get goosebumps how powerful it is. That's one aspect of his 80s voice that I like. And then there's his soothing falcetto (head voice, or whatever technical people call it) in songs like Cool Cat, Don't Try So Hard (bloody good song). I think the thing about the greatness of Freddie's voice is not the range, but his tone, emotion and skill to adapt it for every song where it was necessary. It was his instrument. The end of A Dog With A Bone (around the 4 minute mark ) is pure blabber but I just like it for some reason :-) |
marc.s 07.03.2014 08:23 |
Raffy wrote:Whole album Freddie vocal performances for Queen would be Hot Space IMO also solo on Mr Bad Guy Freddie gave some of the best of his career with every performance a gem IMOcmsdrums wrote: Most of A Day At The Races too; it was the album where he nailed everything, and reached the perfect point of power (Tie Your Morher Down, White Man), finesse (Good Old Fashioned Lover Boy) and control (You Take My Breath Away) without having any of the 'warble' which is still present at points on A Night At The Opera, the thinness from the debut album, or straining present in other places. The whole of ADATR is perfect vocally for me.Yeah speaking about "whole album performances" ADATR must be on the "top 5". From my personal point of view anyway he reached his peak in the '70s with Jazz and in the '80s with The Miracle. |
marc.s 07.03.2014 08:29 |
Chief Mouse wrote: Hard to say. Definately some of the 70s stuff is up there. But if we are talking about the famous *big* voiced Freddie people tend to recognise, I think it's the 80s, to be more precise the mid-80s. By that point he got to even higher notes, more grit and more vibrato which makes it sound very powerful. As someone already mentioned, Freddie could make even a boring (or bad) song sound exciting just by singing it out in a unique way. For example, Body Language is shite, but the way he sings the high parts is wow. Tear It Up 2:01 in this video link "oooooh". Also ITLOTG:R from this very same concert "so funny.... my money....". His voice was in bad shape here but he still managed to make such a sound that I get goosebumps how powerful it is. That's one aspect of his 80s voice that I like. And then there's his soothing falcetto (head voice, or whatever technical people call it) in songs like Cool Cat, Don't Try So Hard (bloody good song). I think the thing about the greatness of Freddie's voice is not the range, but his tone, emotion and skill to adapt it for every song where it was necessary. It was his instrument. The end of A Dog With A Bone (around the 4 minute mark ) is pure blabber but I just like it for some reason :-)Good points regarding the 80s I've already mentioned Hot Space, but you know what, I actually listened to Feelings Feelings from 77 earlier and for some reason that sounds to me now more like the kind of vocal he'd deliver in the 80s |
marc.s 07.03.2014 09:17 |
Djdownsy wrote: I'm surprised nobody has mentioned 'In My Defense'. I mean, one take? How many people pull that vocal out in ONE TAKE???awesome for one take i didn't realise that. Don't they also say that about TSMGO? |
cmsdrums 07.03.2014 09:34 |
marc.s wrote:Only very slight, but things like the 'Now I Know' and 'Ooh-ah, ooh-ah' repeat vocals in 'The Prohet's Song' show slight strains in his delivery. ADATR is the FIRST album where (to me) he is essentially perfect on everything.cmsdrums wrote: Most of A Day At The Races too; it was the album where he nailed everything, and reached the perfect point of power (Tie Your Morher Down, White Man), finesse (Good Old Fashioned Lover Boy) and control (You Take My Breath Away) without having any of the 'warble' which is still present at points on A Night At The Opera, the thinness from the debut album, or straining present in other places. The whole of ADATR is perfect vocally for me.hi cms when you're taking about warble on ANATO , which songs are you referring to and which bit? As others have said, he then repeats that on almost everything up to and including Hot Space, somewhat shows the effects of having started smoking on 'The Works' and AKOM, and then regains it for 'Barcelona' onwards! |
Djdownsy 07.03.2014 13:46 |
cmsdrums wrote: Only very slight, but things like the 'Now I Know' and 'Ooh-ah, ooh-ah' repeat vocals in 'The Prohet's Song' show slight strains in his delivery.Actually, I know what you're referencing here. It's particular evident in the parts were he is singing lower notes, it tends to 'warble', to use your word, in and out of tune. |
The Real Wizard 07.03.2014 14:13 |
marc.s wrote:I think that's just referring to the "on with the show" line. I'm sure it took quite some time to get the perfect vocal for that one, considering Mercury's health.Djdownsy wrote: I'm surprised nobody has mentioned 'In My Defense'. I mean, one take? How many people pull that vocal out in ONE TAKE???awesome for one take i didn't realise that. Don't they also say that about TSMGO? |
The Real Wizard 07.03.2014 14:18 |
cmsdrums wrote: somewhat shows the effects of having started smoking on 'The Works' and AKOM, and then regains it for 'Barcelona' onwards!I'd say the huskiness was more a conscious choice. On A Kind Of Magic (the song) he still sounds pretty pure, soaring without the grit that he added to songs like Tear It Up and Gimme The Prize. |
Stellabella 07.03.2014 16:27 |
I love the speaking/deep tenor vocal on man made paradise. Just began to explore Freddie's solo work. What a magical man. |
marc.s 07.03.2014 18:55 |
I've gotta say guys thanks for the great replies to this post. I really love reading everybody's views whether they align with mine or not. This forum is currently way better than queen online for interaction ;););) |
marc.s 07.03.2014 23:51 |
Stellabella wrote: I love the speaking/deep tenor vocal on man made paradise. Just began to explore Freddie's solo work. What a magical man.I'd love to hear the Queen version of this they began in The Works period |
marc.s 08.03.2014 09:49 |
Raffy wrote:hi Raffy where did you read that Freddie didn't like TMLWKY?musicland munich wrote: "Too much love will kill you" ...but yes, ask me another day and I will change opinion.My favourite Queen tune along with Was It All Worth It... never understood why Freddie didn't like the song as his performance is spot on (speaking about professionalism: the man didn't like the tune but anyway gave a stellar rendition). Maybe the song's theme made him think about his personal condition and the fact that actually "too much love" in the end was going to kill him. Sometimes people can see/find deep meanings in other's people compositions and often giving a better interpretation than the one of the original composer. Brian wrote it describing his personal situation but maybe Freddie, while sang it, relived the phantoms of his past... Any thoughts? |
Raffy 08.03.2014 14:08 |
marc.s wrote: hi Raffy where did you read that Freddie didn't like TMLWKY?Is one of those things you recall in your memory but can't really remember where you've read it/listen to it. Anyway I must correct myself 'cause my previous statement seems like a speculation since we haven't the 100% proof that what I said was true: simply put it in that way... TMLWKY wasn't appropriate for "The Miracle" album or maybe Brian initially preferred his solo demo version and wanted it to be published on his future solo work so didn't was released up until Made In Heaven. |
marc.s 08.03.2014 19:01 |
Raffy wrote:I actually prefer Freddie's vocal on TMLWKY to Brian's although I know that's not so for a lot of people. And yeah I don't think it was right for The Miracle and it fits much better on MIHmarc.s wrote: hi Raffy where did you read that Freddie didn't like TMLWKY?Is one of those things you recall in your memory but can't really remember where you've read it/listen to it. Anyway I must correct myself 'cause my previous statement seems like a speculation since we haven't the 100% proof that what I said was true: simply put it in that way... TMLWKY wasn't appropriate for "The Miracle" album or maybe Brian initially preferred his solo demo version and wanted it to be published on his future solo work so didn't was released up until Made In Heaven. |
Stelios 09.03.2014 06:17 |
1 The show must go on 2 Scandal 3 In my Defence 4 Who wants to live forever 5 One year of love |
marc.s 09.03.2014 22:28 |
Stelios wrote: 1 The show must go on 2 Scandal 3 In my Defence 4 Who wants to live forever 5 One year of lovehi Stelios Scandal must be one of Freddie's most underrated vocals . One of the best songs on The Miracle. |
marc.s 10.03.2014 09:08 |
cmsdrums wrote:Seeing as how ANATO and ADATR were more or less recorded back to back I class the vocals as pretty much the same standard. I've tried to hear the vocal parts you mention but its hard to say what was by design and what was the product of straining as they all sound great to me.marc.s wrote:Only very slight, but things like the 'Now I Know' and 'Ooh-ah, ooh-ah' repeat vocals in 'The Prohet's Song' show slight strains in his delivery. ADATR is the FIRST album where (to me) he is essentially perfect on everything. As others have said, he then repeats that on almost everything up to and including Hot Space, somewhat shows the effects of having started smoking on 'The Works' and AKOM, and then regains it for 'Barcelona' onwards!cmsdrums wrote: Most of A Day At The Races too; it was the album where he nailed everything, and reached the perfect point of power (Tie Your Morher Down, White Man), finesse (Good Old Fashioned Lover Boy) and control (You Take My Breath Away) without having any of the 'warble' which is still present at points on A Night At The Opera, the thinness from the debut album, or straining present in other places. The whole of ADATR is perfect vocally for me.hi cms when you're taking about warble on ANATO , which songs are you referring to and which bit? |
The Real Wizard 10.03.2014 11:43 |
Raffy wrote: TMLWKY wasn't appropriate for "The Miracle" album or maybe Brian initially preferred his solo demo version and wanted it to be published on his future solo work so didn't was released up until Made In Heaven.Wasn't there some kind of publishing issue, since there were outside songwriters to be credited.. ? |
marc.s 11.03.2014 09:38 |
cmsdrums wrote:hi cms you said you thought Freddie was perfection on ADATR and then said he regained his voice for Barcelona, which of those two styles do you prefer because he's certainly more powerful on Barcelona overall than ADATR IMO. But both are master classes of singing.marc.s wrote:Only very slight, but things like the 'Now I Know' and 'Ooh-ah, ooh-ah' repeat vocals in 'The Prohet's Song' show slight strains in his delivery. ADATR is the FIRST album where (to me) he is essentially perfect on everything. As others have said, he then repeats that on almost everything up to and including Hot Space, somewhat shows the effects of having started smoking on 'The Works' and AKOM, and then regains it for 'Barcelona' onwards!cmsdrums wrote: Most of A Day At The Races too; it was the album where he nailed everything, and reached the perfect point of power (Tie Your Morher Down, White Man), finesse (Good Old Fashioned Lover Boy) and control (You Take My Breath Away) without having any of the 'warble' which is still present at points on A Night At The Opera, the thinness from the debut album, or straining present in other places. The whole of ADATR is perfect vocally for me.hi cms when you're taking about warble on ANATO , which songs are you referring to and which bit? |
Raffy 11.03.2014 18:21 |
The Real Wizard wrote:Good point, maybe this is the real motivation.Raffy wrote: TMLWKY wasn't appropriate for "The Miracle" album or maybe Brian initially preferred his solo demo version and wanted it to be published on his future solo work so didn't was released up until Made In Heaven.Wasn't there some kind of publishing issue, since there were outside songwriters to be credited.. ? |
Mike G 11.03.2014 20:34 |
I think ANATO was when Freddie's voice fully developed....He found his Voice, This is when he was most creative as a writer and vocalist..Songs like Love Of My Life and Bo Rhap are examples. His voice did get stronger in later years, but this is when he was most original as a singer. I Don't think any one song is above the rest but has many performances that are on the same level...Love Of my life, Bo Rhap, Nevermore, Show must go on, Somebody to love, Innuendo, Night comes down and many more. |
marc.s 12.03.2014 06:35 |
Mike G wrote: I think ANATO was when Freddie's voice fully developed....He found his Voice, This is when he was most creative as a writer and vocalist..Songs like Love Of My Life and Bo Rhap are examples. His voice did get stronger in later years, but this is when he was most original as a singer. I Don't think any one song is above the rest but has many performances that are on the same level...Love Of my life, Bo Rhap, Nevermore, Show must go on, Somebody to love, Innuendo, Night comes down and many more.hi mike do you hear any of the strain in Freddie's voice on ANATO in places that cms mentioned? |
cmsdrums 12.03.2014 06:39 |
marc.s wrote: hi cms you said you thought Freddie was perfection on ADATR and then said he regained his voice for Barcelona, which of those two styles do you prefer because he's certainly more powerful on Barcelona overall than ADATR IMO. But both are master classes of singing.Hi Marc - I am a fan of both albums, but personally I prefer the smoother overall vocal delivery of ADATR, although Barcelona (along with Mr Bad Guy) have some incredibly powerful full vocals |
marc.s 12.03.2014 07:10 |
cmsdrums wrote:marc.s wrote: hi cms you said you thought Freddie was perfection on ADATR and then said he regained his voice for Barcelona, which of those two styles do you prefer because he's certainly more powerful on Barcelona overall than ADATR IMO. But both are master classes of singing.Hi Marc - I am a fan of both albums, but personally I prefer the smoother overall vocal delivery of ADATR, although Barcelona (along with Mr Bad Guy) have some incredibly powerful full vocals |
marc.s 12.03.2014 07:11 |
cmsdrums wrote:hi cms, interesting, so as a fan of the smoother delivery what are your thoughts on things like Gimme The Prize, and I Want It All etc that use an altogether more forceful style?marc.s wrote: hi cms you said you thought Freddie was perfection on ADATR and then said he regained his voice for Barcelona, which of those two styles do you prefer because he's certainly more powerful on Barcelona overall than ADATR IMO. But both are master classes of singing.Hi Marc - I am a fan of both albums, but personally I prefer the smoother overall vocal delivery of ADATR, although Barcelona (along with Mr Bad Guy) have some incredibly powerful full vocals |
Mike G 12.03.2014 15:31 |
ADTR and ANATO for originality and sounding perfect, the tone and everything...But power?...how about Hammer to Fall? and not sure how Barcelona's "Ensueno" slipped my mind, but that one still gives me chills and I been listening to that album for 25 years.... |
FreddieCat 12.03.2014 23:15 |
Due to his weakness at the time, Freddies pronounced lyrics and words in A Winter's Tale almost with a swagger. I find this highly attractive and hauntingly beautiful. I am absolutely nuts about the song. |
Mike G 12.03.2014 23:27 |
FreddieCat wrote: Due to his weakness at the time, Freddies pronounced lyrics and words in A Winter's Tale almost with a swagger. I find this highly attractive and hauntingly beautiful. I am absolutely nuts about the song.Funny I was Just listening to that song, And I agree, one of my favorite Queen songs of all time. Fits in with where I'm at in my life right now.... |
marc.s 13.03.2014 02:19 |
Mike G wrote:FreddieCat wrote: Due to his weakness at the time, Freddies pronounced lyrics and words in A Winter's Tale almost with a swagger. I find this highly attractive and hauntingly beautiful. I am absolutely nuts about the song.Funny I was Just listening to that song, And I agree, one of my favorite Queen songs of all time. Fits in with where I'm at in my life right now.... |
marc.s 13.03.2014 02:20 |
Mike G wrote:QUOTE] not only Is the delivery great on A Winters Tale but the fact we have Freddie observing simple life around him and knowing that it'll soon all be over makes it very real to me but never IMO is it downbeat which is probably the most amazing thing about the song. I find it joyous.FreddieCat wrote: Due to his weakness at the time, Freddies pronounced lyrics and words in A Winter's Tale almost with a swagger. I find this highly attractive and hauntingly beautiful. I am absolutely nuts about the song.Funny I was Just listening to that song, And I agree, one of my favorite Queen songs of all time. Fits in with where I'm at in my life right now.... He paints a very beautiful portrait of simple things that maybe we take for granted when we can observe them any time we wish. It seems like simple things obviously took on significant meaning , like swans floating by, seagulls flying over, moon in the sky etc A fitting last song to have written IMO and a highlight of MIH |
marc.s 13.03.2014 04:39 |
Mike G wrote: ADTR and ANATO for originality and sounding perfect, the tone and everything...But power?...how about Hammer to Fall? and not sure how Barcelona's "Ensueno" slipped my mind, but that one still gives me chills and I been listening to that album for 25 years....Ensuno is a great track, actually Freddie's power and control is superb over the whole of Barcelona album IMO. I prefer the original release rather than the newly orchestrated version. although Exercises in Free Love on the new version is brilliant. |
Mike G 13.03.2014 10:41 |
marc.s wrote:Barcelona is one of my favorite Freddie albums in general, and that includes Queen...Only a handful of Queen albums I would put on the same level or slightly above it...It's a shame some of Freddie's best performances are are lost on subpar albums like Hot Space (which is decent) and MR. Bad Guy....The same with Brian May, it's a shame some of his best guitar work is Forgotten on patchy solo albums...Last Horizon would have been great on Innuendo or MIH...Ressurection could have been an Epic on a Queen album...Made in heaven also has some great vocal performances, A winter's tale, too much Love, and What Brian did on the title track is truly amazing, great song....I know The song MIH is one of Brian's favorites, and I agree with him...Mike G wrote: ADTR and ANATO for originality and sounding perfect, the tone and everything...But power?...how about Hammer to Fall? and not sure how Barcelona's "Ensueno" slipped my mind, but that one still gives me chills and I been listening to that album for 25 years....Ensuno is a great track, actually Freddie's power and control is superb over the whole of Barcelona album IMO. I prefer the original release rather than the newly orchestrated version. although Exercises in Free Love on the new version is brilliant. |
marc.s 14.03.2014 00:35 |
Mike G wrote:The vocals throughout Hot Space and Mr Bad Guy are first rate IMO I have friends who don't like many of the songs on those 2 albums but all agree the vocals are first class.marc.s wrote:Barcelona is one of my favorite Freddie albums in general, and that includes Queen...Only a handful of Queen albums I would put on the same level or slightly above it...It's a shame some of Freddie's best performances are are lost on subpar albums like Hot Space (which is decent) and MR. Bad Guy....The same with Brian May, it's a shame some of his best guitar work is Forgotten on patchy solo albums...Last Horizon would have been great on Innuendo or MIH...Ressurection could have been an Epic on a Queen album...Made in heaven also has some great vocal performances, A winter's tale, too much Love, and What Brian did on the title track is truly amazing, great song....I know The song MIH is one of Brian's favorites, and I agree with him...Mike G wrote: ADTR and ANATO for originality and sounding perfect, the tone and everything...But power?...how about Hammer to Fall? and not sure how Barcelona's "Ensueno" slipped my mind, but that one still gives me chills and I been listening to that album for 25 years....Ensuno is a great track, actually Freddie's power and control is superb over the whole of Barcelona album IMO. I prefer the original release rather than the newly orchestrated version. although Exercises in Free Love on the new version is brilliant. |
marc.s 20.03.2014 06:29 |
Raffy wrote:Actually I think Scandal is now my favorite song on The Miracle alongside Was It All Worth It. It's shame it wasn't higher as a single to have elevated awareness.cmsdrums wrote: Not many lows in 'One Year of Love' but its sung really high amd powerfully but with no falsetto; all really 'full on'. PErhaps the key for this song could have been better? However, for that very reason it's one of my least favourite Freddie vocal performances as he doesn't bring much light and shade, and is probably one of the only times when I could accuse him of 'oversinging' in relation to what was needed for the track. I dare anyone else try to sing it like that though!!Uniqueness of Freddie's voice properly consists in this: in some 80's songs like The hero, Let's turn it on, One year of love, Gimme the prize, Scandal he tend a little bit to oversing (maybe just to push his potential to the limit) but he manages anyway to maintain an high rate of powerness and strength even on such high pitched notes... incredible control and acknowledgment of his capabilities. |
Mike G 20.03.2014 09:00 |
Scandel is one of my favorites on that album, but instead of the pop sounds of the 80's it should have been heavier...Heavier guitars instead of the synths... |
marc.s 20.03.2014 10:15 |
Mike G wrote: Scandel is one of my favorites on that album, but instead of the pop sounds of the 80's it should have been heavier...Heavier guitars instead of the synths...hi mike do you mean synths on Scandal or in general? I thought the main riff on Scandal was the red special not synth, somebody correct me if I'm wrong I'd be interested to find out. |
Stelios 21.03.2014 11:38 |
marc.s wrote:Hi marc.s. I think Scandal's main riff is a blend between May's guitar and synths/keyboards. According to wikipedia May recorded the keyboards and guitars in one take.Mike G wrote: Scandel is one of my favorites on that album, but instead of the pop sounds of the 80's it should have been heavier...Heavier guitars instead of the synths...hi mike do you mean synths on Scandal or in general? I thought the main riff on Scandal was the red special not synth, somebody correct me if I'm wrong I'd be interested to find out. In the Scandal 12' version ( wich by the way is AWESOME) you can hear the synths without the guitar at 1:00 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3fRWx22nWI A heavier mix of the song(more guitar -les synths), here :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaI1v5cAWYs |
malicedoom 21.03.2014 12:27 |
Another vote (no, TEN VOTES) for Scandal. That is such a great song. And the 12" version is my favorite 12" mix of all-time from ANY band. |
marc.s 21.03.2014 19:32 |
Stelios wrote:ah interesting Stelios just dug out the 12 inch. I hadn't listened to it in quite a while but yeah that must be the best 12 inch mix they did. Oh and I'm in China so my youtube isn't currently going through I'll check when I can ;)marc.s wrote:Hi marc.s. I think Scandal's main riff is a blend between May's guitar and synths/keyboards. According to wikipedia May recorded the keyboards and guitars in one take. In the Scandal 12' version ( wich by the way is AWESOME) you can hear the synths without the guitar at 1:00 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3fRWx22nWI A heavier mix of the song(more guitar -les synths), here :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaI1v5cAWYsMike G wrote: Scandel is one of my favorites on that album, but instead of the pop sounds of the 80's it should have been heavier...Heavier guitars instead of the synths...hi mike do you mean synths on Scandal or in general? I thought the main riff on Scandal was the red special not synth, somebody correct me if I'm wrong I'd be interested to find out. |
marc.s 21.03.2014 19:33 |
malicedoom wrote: Another vote (no, TEN VOTES) for Scandal. That is such a great song. And the 12" version is my favorite 12" mix of all-time from ANY band.as I just said to Stelios you're right it's awesome. |
Mike G 21.03.2014 22:54 |
Vocally one of Freddie's best |
jtownsen 28.03.2014 00:36 |
March of the Black Queen for his range... "Put them in the cellar with the naughty boys A little nigger sugar then a rub-a dub-a baby oil" |
marc.s 13.04.2014 11:03 |
Stelios wrote:excellentmarc.s wrote:Hi marc.s. I think Scandal's main riff is a blend between May's guitar and synths/keyboards. According to wikipedia May recorded the keyboards and guitars in one take. In the Scandal 12' version ( wich by the way is AWESOME) you can hear the synths without the guitar at 1:00 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3fRWx22nWI A heavier mix of the song(more guitar -les synths), here :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaI1v5cAWYsMike G wrote: Scandel is one of my favorites on that album, but instead of the pop sounds of the 80's it should have been heavier...Heavier guitars instead of the synths...hi mike do you mean synths on Scandal or in general? I thought the main riff on Scandal was the red special not synth, somebody correct me if I'm wrong I'd be interested to find out. |
ZBGM0 18.04.2014 08:46 |
For me best vocal performance is without any doubt “How can I go on” (not original, but alternative version) and “Show must go on” close second - best high note (D5) ever recorded from Freddie. Yes, there are also higher notes in other songs but they don’t sound so powerful like D5 in SMGO. I know there are many amazing studio vocal performances from Freddie in the 70s BUT in the 70s he didn’t have power that he had in the 80s. If I have to pick the best studio vocal performance from 70s it would be The prophet’s song. I personally believe his best vocals were in 87/88 after he stopped touring. Even Mike Moran said his voice started to get much better when recording Barcelona. There are probably three reasons for that: - Touring was over, so his voice was able to recover - He knew he had AIDS/HIV, so he knew that he had only max. few years left. So he decided to do his best/everything he can for his music in the last few years. He was more focused than ever. Consequently he didn’t party anymore like before, his life style was suddenly different. With other words he started to take care for his voice like never before (Also Mike Moran claims this). - Although this was never stated officially, I assume that Montserrat Caballe gave him few very good tips how to sing better. After all, she was the best femal singer in the world at this particular time. It would be weird not to give him any good advice. P.S.: People give too much credits for range and “which note he hits”. The most important is the QUALITY of the pitch/tone that he produces, not which notes he hits. There are millions of singers who can sing C5 but they will sounds like crap because they don’t have power/resonance. Why was Pavarotti one of the best operatic tenors? Because he could hit high C? NO, simply because he had best RESONANCE/power. And I believe Freddie had best resonance in 87/88. There is only one live recording which has probably the lowest quality but it is enough to hear his Bb4 in In My Defence, the note was very sweet, rich, colorful and resonate – completely different voice than his mid 80s. Same thing is with pianos, the longer the strings/sound board, the better the tone of the instrument. For example Steve Perry and Adam L. can both sing higher notes than Freddie but they have shorter strings and smaller sound board, therefore the voice is weaker then Freddie’s (if you consider Freddie Dec 79. Newcastle, Live Aid 85, and period 87-90). |
Martin Packer 18.04.2014 09:35 |
Scandal shows just what can happen when Brian writes and performs from the heart. And in that one Freddie nails the vocal with his own emotion (or confects the emotion if it really isn't there - as was (IMHO spuriously) said about his version of TMLWKY). |
marc.s 18.04.2014 09:50 |
ZBGM0 wrote: For me best vocal performance is without any doubt “How can I go on” (not original, but alternative version) and “Show must go on” close second - best high note (D5) ever recorded from Freddie. Yes, there are also higher notes in other songs but they don’t sound so powerful like D5 in SMGO. I know there are many amazing studio vocal performances from Freddie in the 70s BUT in the 70s he didn’t have power that he had in the 80s. If I have to pick the best studio vocal performance from 70s it would be The prophet’s song. I personally believe his best vocals were in 87/88 after he stopped touring. Even Mike Moran said his voice started to get much better when recording Barcelona. There are probably three reasons for that: - Touring was over, so his voice was able to recover - He knew he had AIDS/HIV, so he knew that he had only max. few years left. So he decided to do his best/everything he can for his music in the last few years. He was more focused than ever. Consequently he didn’t party anymore like before, his life style was suddenly different. With other words he started to take care for his voice like never before (Also Mike Moran claims this). - Although this was never stated officially, I assume that Montserrat Caballe gave him few very good tips how to sing better. After all, she was the best femal singer in the world at this particular time. It would be weird not to give him any good advice. P.S.: People give too much credits for range and “which note he hits”. The most important is the QUALITY of the pitch/tone that he produces, not which notes he hits. There are millions of singers who can sing C5 but they will sounds like crap because they don’t have power/resonance. Why was Pavarotti one of the best operatic tenors? Because he could hit high C? NO, simply because he had best RESONANCE/power. And I believe Freddie had best resonance in 87/88. There is only one live recording which has probably the lowest quality but it is enough to hear his Bb4 in In My Defence, the note was very sweet, rich, colorful and resonate – completely different voice than his mid 80s. Same thing is with pianos, the longer the strings/sound board, the better the tone of the instrument. For example Steve Perry and Adam L. can both sing higher notes than Freddie but they have shorter strings and smaller sound board, therefore the voice is weaker then Freddie’s (if you consider Freddie Dec 79. Newcastle, Live Aid 85, and period 87-90).hey guide me home/ how can I can on alternate is mine too as I stated before. It's a masterclass of vocals IMO and Barcelona album as a whole has some of his very best performances. Also in the eighties both Hot Space, and Mr Bad Guy have awesome vocals regardless of whether one rates the albums or not IMO. I happen to like them both ;) |
ZBGM0 18.04.2014 11:46 |
Yes, I believe Barcelona has one of the best vocals. No doubt about it. In 70s he had sweet, “oiled”, crystal clear voice in the upper register (F4-B4), but he lacked power. In 80s he lost a little bit of “clear” voice in upper register but he gained extreme power in the middle register (C4-G4). I personally haven’t heard any pop/rock singer with such a powerful voice in middle register. Example is here: link his vocal at Wembley was in a bad shape, but at 0:37 he holds G4 with such a power. I haven’t heard any of pop/rock singer who can produce more powerful G4 than this example - if somebody knows someone, I would like to hear (post a link) :) this is one of the reasons that separates Freddie from other singers. Other singers will normally have “hollow” or thin, dry, screaming, weaker, lighter, less colorful, less resonate, less richer fuller tone, less powerfull … voice compared to him. It really was the tone that he produced and not the range. I can hit C5 but it will sound worse than a dying cat. In the 87/88 he had both – crystal clear voice and power. Combination of both is heard on Barcelona album. And yes marc. s A Winter’s Tale is also to my opinion one of the most touching songs ever, considering dreamy psychedelic effect, the lyrics and the fact this was his last song he has written (harmony and lyrics). This song is underrated…… but one of the best to my opinion. |
Chief Mouse 18.04.2014 12:15 |
^ this. |
The Real Wizard 18.04.2014 21:48 |
^ indeed, that. |
ActionThisDay 20.04.2014 10:10 |
Cool Cat. Not a fan of the song but was one of his best vocals. |
Day dop 20.04.2014 17:23 |
I think Freddie's voice improved from the Game album onwards - Play the Game and Save me both spring to mind. The intro to Love is the Hero. How can I go on - and the Barcelona album in general. Although not my favourite album, A kind of Magic has some great vocals. And Mr bad guy - the Made in Heaven track in particular. (I think the Made in heaven album version of that song is a great showpiece). |
Mike G 20.04.2014 19:56 |
Most of the famous Queen songs in the 70's/early 80's is what made his voice one of the biggest of his time, but he really did get stronger from Hot Space to Barcelona.....Magic wasn't the greatest Queen album, but vocally was one of his best. I actually think the album was ok,,,Barcelona was possibly the best of all of them...enuseno might be his best vocal performance... |
Mike G 20.04.2014 19:59 |
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TomP63 21.04.2014 05:59 |
Crowing vocal perfomance? Great King Rat, Lily of the valley, spring to mind. But to be real honest: his period from Queen (I) up till the Game, each and every album is in my humble opinion excellent, not only on vinyl, but the Mercury I saw from 1978 till 1982 was live absolutely stunning. I always thought that his live vocal was very steady, Mercury live in 1984 and 1986 is a complete different Mercury. So in the studio: 1973 up till 1980 and live up to 1982. |
JohnH 21.04.2014 09:54 |
I think "In My Defence" is actually quite strained in places and a little over sung. It works though! |
Stelios 21.04.2014 10:17 |
JohnH wrote: I think "In My Defence" is actually quite strained in places and a little over sung. It works though!I cant hear the strain. Now to the oversung bit, i remember reading that a famous old british actor ( can't remember his name) said, when listened the song, that " This is a fine actor singing". It was a statement to Mercury's expensiveness , apparently. |
Mike G 21.04.2014 13:07 |
The Great pretender is a great performance as well... |