| mickyparise 20.02.2014 04:28 |
Brian May says he’s often thought of the way Freddie Mercury handled his final illness when dealing with the aftermath of the Queen guitarist’s own health scare. Mercury died in 1991 from complications relating to the AIDS virus. May underwent a biopsy last December, after doctors worried the 66-year-old might have prostate cancer. He was given a clean bill of health and has returned to work – but, as he tells the Sun, with a new outlook. “In a healthy way, it’s good to be aware of your death — so that you can get your life in perspective,” May says. “Freddie Mercury was very focused and had no time to waste, ever! He really did spend the short life he had doing what he wanted to do. It is important to look at every day as a gift.” While he has been cleared of the cancer risk, May says health concerns remain. “It’s still a bit mystifying though, as I’m not totally fine,” he says. “I still have a lot of problems and pains, but we seem to have eliminated all the sinister possible causes. I’m just left slightly baffled and am trying to build up my strength again.” May begins a U.K. tour with singer Kerry Ellis this month. He has also mentioned the possibility of a Queen tour with Adam Lambert, even as work continues on an album of leftover music featuring Mercury. link |
| FreddieCat 20.02.2014 22:23 |
His health still isn't 100 percent. Might affect later gigs. |
| matt z 21.02.2014 03:14 |
Unpredictably shallOw response. "Might affect later gigs" For a man who's brought countless inspiration and motivation as a part of this band, it's pretty obscene to just focus on that. I hope Brian remains in good health. Thank you Bri. You've inspired so many of us. (DOUBT he ever reads this stuff, but please know it, man. Cheers. You are a unique artist, love you bro-ham) |
| FreddieCat 21.02.2014 09:18 |
Not shallow at all. If he is still suffering pain possibly from standing with his guitar he may forego his gigs until his body gets better |
| gerry 06.03.2014 12:20 |
Sod the tour with pretty boy Lambert just continue the work on the new Queen album. Queen fans deserve new material especially the ardent ones like myself who are faithful to Freddie and do not like Lambert screwing freds songs up. Personally i blank anything to do with lambo, as i really do hate the twit. |
| The Real Wizard 07.03.2014 17:22 |
gerry wrote: Queen fans deserve...Queen fans deserve nothing. In fact, fans of any band don't deserve anything. They receive the music that artists give when they feel like giving it. Where does this sense of entitlement come from? Why exactly do they owe you something? Is 15 albums not enough? |
| gerry 08.03.2014 06:01 |
To( The Real Wizard) Yes Queen do owe there fans, for the success and lavish lifestyle they lead, and for the fans 40 year strong support making them have the longest running fan club on the planet. Must Queen fans do not care about Brian and Roger touring with the talentless lambo, we just want more Mercury magic on cd! What is the fascination of working with lambo any way? Brian and Roger should just leave lambert to get on with his pathetic career and stop selling them selves short. Have some respect boys , after all you are Rock Gods! |
| The Real Wizard 09.03.2014 01:29 |
gerry wrote: 40 year strong support making them have the longest running fan club on the planet.Fair point. But who's to say that the fan club is an accurate measurement of how fervent fans are, or whether or not the artist should cave to the fans' desires? Yes Queen do owe there fans, for the success and lavish lifestyle they leadI'd say it's the sales of BoRhap, Crazy, Dust, and the Greatest Hits compilations to the general public that have largely sustained them financially, not the sales of other albums or songs bought by a much smaller percentage of the fans. When we're talking about hundreds of millions of sales, this is basic finances and logic.. Must Queen fans do not care about Brian and Roger touring with the talentless lambo, we just want more Mercury magic on cd!How can you possibly speak for most Queen fans? Have you met them all? Even 1/10000th of them? That said, you may be right on some level, as most people equate the name "Queen" with Freddie. But there are plenty of people who'd want to see Brian and Roger play, as well as want to hear new music with Freddie. Is it not possible to like both, and not this divide and conquer us vs. them mentality like right-wing politicians tend to use these days (being with "us" or against us, as if those are the only two options)? It's not like people who see these shows are somehow less "devoted" to Freddie and doing him a disservice, as if it's a religion where you're only supposed to worship one god or enter one kind of church and that you're a heathen for considering other options. Try to move past this binary thinking. What is the fascination of working with lambo any way?a) many people think he has a great voice b) many people think he has great stage presence c) he is popular, especially in the US d) he's one of two people in over 20 years who have managed to bring Brian and Roger back together to tour pathetic careerWhat have you done with your life? Have you sold a few million records like he has? If you don't want to see Brian and Roger with Lambert, then don't. That's your choice. Leave at that. Just stop trying to justify why your point of view is somehow superior to everyone who will (and thus support their "lavish" lifestyle - the irony, it hurts). |
| gerry 09.03.2014 05:41 |
REAL WIZARD, im just making my point, i have a right to view my point even if it is superior to yours. Firstly Queen are a British Rock Group, so wheres the sense taking a un-known singer on board from a crappy reality programme????? i will always push my comments against Lambert, down silly people who think "oh Lamberts ok" please wake up, cant you all see what lamberts doing, he is just milking the fact that he is on stage with Brian May and Roger Taylor, "furthering his ailing career" without May and Taylor where would he be now eh? Probably like all the rest of the reality crap, on his arse. Freddie built up the Queen empire, he made the name Queen, and i aint letting anyone tell me that lambert is ok or he has a good voice because as far as i am concerned its a no contest. Freddie is the voice. Now we learn there might may be a Queen/Lambert studio album on the cards, it just goes from bad to worse. I actually think Paul Rodgers is pissed off too with May and Taylor. |
| brENsKi 09.03.2014 06:04 |
gerry wrote: Firstly Queen are a British Rock Group,well tons of hugely successful bands have singers from different countries - let alone continents...and Freddie - lest you forget - was not born in Britain - hence some of the more interesting influences in his music.. gerry wrote:I actually think Paul Rodgers is pissed off too with May and Taylor.you can think all you want....and you do - far too much (imo) on fruitless pursuits - but thinking ain't fact. gerry wrote:so wheres the sense taking a un-known singer on board, from a crappy reality programme?????i too don't like it - but it's marketable - and it's wholly their right to do with the brand what they want. gerry wrote:i will always push my comments against Lambert, down silly people who think "oh Lamberts ok"i'm sure you will...and like a the time period YOU seem stuck in....YOU'RE sounding like a scratched record. gerry wrote:iFreddie built up the Queen empire,FOUR people built Queen - you're sounding like a lunatic. gerry wrote:i aint letting anyone tell me that lambert is ok or he hasEarth to Gerry: when did YOU get the idea that THEY care about YOUR (one misguided, disgrunted, outdated fan's opinion? if it sells, they'll carry on...regardless of your bile.I don't like it, but at least I respect their right to do what they like. get the fuck over yourself. There's an Mark Twain saying, and it was never more applicable than to you: It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt. |
| gerry 09.03.2014 07:12 |
Brenski, your just a complete wanker m8. fact Queens studio albums sales have dipped since "Made in Heaven" was released in 1995. All the albums they have made after like with paul rodgers were all dissapointing sales, and Queen have not bothered the top 40 for over 22 years with new material, proving that Freddie was the main important component of Queen. Brian and Roger were failing until Freddie came along and told them what they were all doing wrong, he kicked started there careers, designed the Queen logo and got the band into the big time. you my friend are talking shit and trying to be clever well it does not work, and dont patronise me at what i say, as i have every right to express my opinions on here , And by the way every thing Queen do without Fred will fail, record sales etc........ Why you are on this site for i just do not know, are you a Queen fan or a Lambo fucker?? |
| brENsKi 09.03.2014 07:55 |
gerry wrote:Brenski, your just a complete wanker m8. Why you are on this site for i just do not know, are you a Queen fan or a Lambo fucker?? your inability to read - or deliberate ignorance of what is typed let's your guard down: why let the facts get in the way of a good argument? - i've re-pasted below EXACTLY what i typed - ignore it again eh? gerry wrote: so wheres the sense taking a un-known singer on board, from a crappy reality programme????? brenski replied: i too don't like it - but it's marketable - and it's wholly their right to do with the brand what they want. As I said before: It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt. And, as you resort to insults....why don't you clear off back home idiot? - your village is missing you. |
| gerry 09.03.2014 09:41 |
Brenski, We all know you like a good scrap as ive read your arrogant posts in the past where you think you can win, well get this you cant get one over on me bud, i know too much about QUEEN to be fobbed off by a small fry like you! I dont need to read what i already posted just to please you. i only resorted to insults with you as you did with me as i quote "get the fuck over yourself" Did you know ive been a Queen fan for over 40 years, what about you? Before freddie came on the scene, Brian and Roger were getting no where fast with "smile" thats happening all over again with Lambert. They will only become popular again when the new unheard material with fred gets released, proving that most Queen fans know a good thing and wont be fooled with a fake singer on board. you can stamp your feet as much as you want brenski but ive got this debate covered and won, looser! |
| Donna13 09.03.2014 10:50 |
It is easy to get very worried and reflective during a health scare. The older you get, the more you know the feeling of either waiting for test results for yourself or older loved ones. It can really put a damper on your enthusiasm for any project during the waiting and worrying period. Even if you get a good result, you have just suffered needlessly with worry, and that does take a toll. I'm glad Brian is getting negative results for these scary tests. He has such a busy life. And he is still devoting quite a lot of his time to music, which is good for the fans. I suppose this is a good (interesting) time to be a Queen fan: "new" music with Freddie being worked on for release, summer tour, movie (ha), and Brian and Roger fit enough to work on these projects. I don't know if any of you saw the tour announcement on Good Morning America. The interviewer knew who Adam was, but called Freddie "Eddie Mercury" and the other people there were proud that they knew the beat for We Will Rock You. That is how much the general population in the United States knows about Queen. Ha. So ... I am always happy with the possibility that Queen music will be introduced to people for the first time. If Adam, who is well known here - can help them fill a concert venue, and get on a morning show - that is very good, I think. I want people to be exposed to Freddie and Queen, and at this point, Adam - and the movie - may be the best way to get that started. Anyone who really loves the music can then be entertained on Youtube or by buying the recordings. New Queen fans! I guess for me, this is just left over frustration from when I was young and couldn't find Queen, my favorite group, on any of the late night music shows and none of my friends had Queen on their radar at all. |
| gerry 09.03.2014 12:42 |
Donna13: I agree it is good news if new fans are getting into Queen but only with Freddie not lambert. i would never introduce Queen via lambert i would tell them to listen to the bands first album "Queen" instead. Why you may say? Well Freddie delivers the flavour of Queen head on where lambert does not have any charisma at all. Just goes to show american interviewers ignorance if they do not know Freddie Mercury and calling him eddie mercury, priceless. |
| FreddieCat 09.03.2014 17:04 |
Good points by all. Freddie 'grew' Queen. America's ignorance is deeply unfortunate. |
| The Real Wizard 10.03.2014 00:35 |
gerry wrote: Why you are on this site for i just do not know, are you a Queen fan or a Lambo fucker?? you can stamp your feet as much as you want brenski but ive got this debate covered and won, looser!I tried to be diplomatic with you, but you obviously have a double digit IQ and a complete inability to put a coherent sentence together to enable you to have a rational discussion with other adults. You sound like you're 12. I pity you. |
| ludwigs 10.03.2014 04:29 |
Totally!! Gerry, I sense that you are slightly simple. This is purely based on reading your blinkered, biased, irrational way of thinking. So, you've been a fan for 40 years?? Me too! I thought I knew lots about Queen but even the majority of fans on this board got into them after Fred died and haven't heard all the albums but....they do know lots of stuff I wasn't aware of. Perhaps you should sit back, read what you have typed and try to reflect on it. This way you could possibly be seen as someway 'justifying' your opinion/argument?? I'm not into any Queen stuff since Fred died BUT I'm not so prejudiced that I cast down what the remaining pair choose to do. I watched the AL gig vids and some of what he sang was quite respectable - he offered a more 'into/interpreted slant' to the lyrics etc than what PR ever did. Theatrical.....yes but it did add a newer slant to some songs. Get over it. You have told us YOUR biased opinions now so, shut up going on and on with them. We get it! Try to use some grey matter and 'up' your argument stance otherwise continue to resort to name-calling due to the obvious lack of articulation!! (oh, adding m8 onto calling someone a wanker doesn't ease the intention either.....) |
| gerry 10.03.2014 05:28 |
Ludwigs: Firstly i find your post very funny especially when you call me "simple" ha ha! Yous lot are the simple ones taking the crap and hype of Adam Lambert, and saying "oh actually he aint half bad" in my book that is called a back stabber, and im sure the older Queen fans of 49+ will agree with me that the younger fans just do not know what the real Queen experience was like back in the day when Freddie Mercury was on stage, he would kick lambos arse over to rio! I suggest if you like Lambo that much then you join his sad fan base and leave the Queenzone for folk who only appreciate the 4 masters that were Queen. The same goes to Brenski on here! |
| TomP63 10.03.2014 05:33 |
I see myself as a old Queen fan, old in age, but also old as I follow the band since 1974, I bought Queen II with my allowance money,. The first Queen concert I saw was in Rotterdam Ahoy in 1977, followed by many, many concerts in The Netherlands, mind you I didn't missed one concert. My first abroad concert was at the famous Milton Keynes, yeah I was the lucky one in those days. I've seen the band in Belgium, Germany, twice at Wembely. It always felt as a privilge to see and hear my favourite band. I was to say the least pissed when people around me told that the band, the whole band(?) was gay and manufactured. But I moved on, I was again in Wembley, this time it was 1992. I've seen The Cross live, Brian live, hell I even saw Queen with Paul Rodgers. I think that Paul Rodgers is an unique singer, but not a singer for Queen songs. But guess what? The very thought to see Brian and Roger on stage, together on stage made me go, I really enjoyed the new style of playing by the axe-man. Brian did a stunning job on Last Horizon. The point were I'm getting at is, I grew up with the band, as wee young lad, to grey slightly older man. I do like the fact that Brian and Roger team up with Adam Lambert, I hate the discussion that Adam is gay, so what. You may have guessed it along the way, I won't see Brian and Roger again on stage, the thrill that I had when both teamed up with Paul Rodgers is gone. But nevertheless I do support the fact that they still want to play. Now its time for the next generation to see Queen, I don't think it is a bad idea to team up with Adam, especially in the US. Meanwhile, I'm looking forward on the new stuff, the stuff with Freddie. And to Gerry, oh Lord, help me to keep my big mouth shut, sometimes I dont know what I'm talkin' 'bout.... |
| ludwigs 10.03.2014 05:43 |
gerry wrote: Ludwigs: Firstly i find your post very funny especially when you call me "simple" ha ha! Yous lot are the simple ones taking the crap and hype of Adam Lambert, and saying "oh actually he aint half bad" in my book that is called a back stabber, and im sure the older Queen fans of 49+ will agree with me that the younger fans just do not know what the real Queen experience was like back in the day when Freddie Mercury was on stage, he would kick lambos arse over to rio! I suggest if you like Lambo that much then you join his sad fan base and leave the Queenzone for folk who only appreciate the 4 masters that were Queen. The same goes to Brenski on here!My post funny? Confirmation of my initial assumption of your mind-set. How do you see people as being 'back-stabbers'? The more you ramble blindly with no real creedence to back you up, the more stupid you make yourself look. You use 'buzz-words'. I won't bother with joining AL's fan-base. Just because I pointed out that he was quite good in points doesn't mean that I am a fan. I'm not into many things but I am grown up enough to agree that something/ someone is decent enough. I liked Smile BUT I also enjoy Queen. Just because Tim Staffell wasn't in Queen doesn't mean I won't continue to enjoy both. At 48 yrs old, I'll keep with the stuff I like and choose to ignore anything that I'm not interested in. Why can't you try to do the same. Instead of ranting endlessly, why not vent more of your fire/passion into learning a little more grammar and as your idol used....articulation!!!! Not that you've told us many, many times that you're approaching 50 I'd have expected better writing. |
| gerry 10.03.2014 05:51 |
Well TOMP63 you have your opinions, i have mine but really what do you say about john deacon not approving Brian & Rogers plans taking Lambert on the road? If it was only a one off i would have said yeah ok, but May & Taylor have secretly made lambert the new lead singer for Queen. I feel personally feel gutted and would have thought they could have teamed up with another rock idol to do the vocal works, Paul Rodgers was a rock idol he had plenty of experience and stage presence but Adam Lambert is just a pretty boy who looks like something from G.A.Y on a saturday night! Dont get me wrong im not anti-gay as i adored Fred, but Lambert looks ridiculous on stage with 2 of the biggest rock gods on the planet and he knows he is milking it to further his career, a freebi ticket to get him noticed, i mean lets face it he aint cracked the uk has he! The thing with me is i am a unique Queen fan, wont be floored by new singers in Queen, i just like the original Queen line up 1971 to 1991. Anything else is simply not Queen, and as the song goes "you dont fool me" |
| gerry 10.03.2014 06:02 |
LUDWIGS, Firstly im very sorry if my grammer does not come up to your expectations, i do rush writing things down in the heat of the moment and ones fingers do slip on the keys, please excuse me sir! i may rant on a bit but its only because i am a passionate Queen fan who hates to see the fans getting ripped off by a reality star who looks like a dogs dinner caked up in make up and has not got the talent Mercury once had. Im sorry to say this but May & Taylor are laughing stocks in the rock world now, and there legacy is getting ripped apart thanks to Lambert. |
| TomP63 10.03.2014 06:13 |
Gerry, Old Queen fans, new Queen fans don't get ripped off, by no means. It is a choice you make, the same goes with buying re-issues of the albums, the choice to buy them is with yours. I don't see you as a nasty geezer, or a homofobic guy. But the thing is, I don't care that much if Adam is gay, he is STILL a human being. And lets face it, Adam is given the opportunity to sing on stage with as you say it the biggest rock gods of this planet, Adam is right to accept this wholehearted, what chance will he ever get. That he isn't groundbreaking in the UK isn't really here or there. Face it Gerry, there is a new generation who really like to see this band, mind you there even fans of our generation to see Adam with Brian and Roger. That John Deacon is saying nothing or did not has given his approval, I'm not aware that John Deacon has spoken about this new tour, have you any information about that? Tom |
| The Real Wizard 10.03.2014 11:52 |
gerry wrote: in my book that is called a back stabberAnd in my book (and seemingly everyone else's book here) you need to realize that seeing Bri and Rog is disrespectful to Freddie ONLY in your eyes, nobody else's, it would seem. I suggest if you like Lambo that much then you join his sad fan base and leave the Queenzone for folk who only appreciate the 4 masters that were Queen.My mistake ... I didn't realize you were the administration here, ideologically vetting every single member to ensure their tastes are equally closed minded to yours. The anger you're feeling because of a rock band choosing to tour with another singer strikes me as being pretty abnormal, bordering obsessive and juvenile. The fact that this legitimately angers you at age 40-something should probably suggest that you need to get a hobby or something that will make you happy. |
| The Real Wizard 10.03.2014 12:01 |
gerry wrote: Paul Rodgers was a rock idol he had plenty of experience and stage presence but Adam Lambert is just a pretty boy who looks like something from G.A.Y on a saturday night! Dont get me wrong im not anti-gay as i adored FredYou're not anti gay ... you just use the word gay in a pejorative way when it suits your needs. Got it, makes sense now. |
| The Real Wizard 10.03.2014 12:03 |
gerry wrote: LUDWIGS, Firstly im very sorry if my grammer does not come up to your expectations, i do rush writing things down in the heat of the moment and ones fingers do slip on the keys,Bullshit. If you know how to construct a sentence, you will. Look up some websites or pick up a book on English grammar and spelling. It's g-r-a-m-m-a-r, not grammer. "I" is always capitalized. "I'm" always has an apostrophe. Most of us learned this when we were 8. Think twice, speak once. You're in your 40s. Time to grow up and learn how to interact with other adults. May & Taylor are laughing stocks in the rock world now, and there legacy is getting ripped apart thanks to Lambert.Can you provide proof for this, other than your personal opinion that you are projecting onto others? |
| The Real Wizard 10.03.2014 12:04 |
TomP63 wrote: hell I even saw Queen with Paul Rodgers. I think that Paul Rodgers is an unique singer, but not a singer for Queen songs. But guess what? The very thought to see Brian and Roger on stage, together on stage made me go, I really enjoyed the new style of playing by the axe-man. Brian did a stunning job on Last Horizon.How dare you be disrespectful to Freddie like that? By buying tickets for a concert after 1992 you have contributed to the destruction of Queen's legacy that was built only by Freddie. How do you live with yourself !? |
| gerry 10.03.2014 12:33 |
Real Wizard: Tut tut, are you a school teacher now, picking out faults on my posts, shame on you, is that the only way for you to bitch back at me you sad weevil. I know what i say is true, but i cannot send loads of people banging on your door to tell you that adam lambert is an insult to Queens legacy (to which he is) He is only a young guy who was not even born when Queen were the greatest group on the planet, so basically he wont even know what freddie was all about in the 70s and 80s. You are very dismissive of everything i post on here so i guess you need to see both sides of the coin, and tell the rest on here to wise up too. Freddie is and always will be king of Queen, Lambert dream on babe! |
| The Real Wizard 10.03.2014 12:40 |
gerry wrote: He is only a young guy who was not even born when Queen were the greatest group on the planet, so basically he wont even know what freddie was all about in the 70s and 80s.Your brain is just so small. So you're basically arguing that nobody can understand anyone who is a couple decades older than them? Nobody under the age of 40 can understand The Beatles? Nobody understands Darwin, Freud, Shakespeare? You're making a fool of yourself. |
| gerry 10.03.2014 13:40 |
Real wizard, you silly silly boy, read what i put down before flipping, i said Lambert has not witnessed Freddie live, he has only caught up with Mercurys performances on video so he can not feel in his soul what a stunning performer Mercury was. Have you ever seen Freddie in concert? You come away thinking my god that guy is awesome, and that is something the kids of today have missed. No one could do what freddie did. now read this slowly before you have another hissy fit darling. l.o.l |
| The Real Wizard 10.03.2014 15:27 |
If you want to refer to my rationality and calling you on your childish bullshit a "hissy fit", then whatever floats your boat ! And I won't even bother to address the obvious revisionist history in your last post. Anyone with a partially functioning brain can discern truth from the crap you spout out every time you speak. Your avatar photo is Mercury hitting a mini Paul Rodgers in the head with a shovel. You're stuck in the past and you are completely intolerant of anything beyond your scope of thinking. You are just too self-absorbed and short-sighted to see it. Sad, actually. These are threads about the coming shows with Adam Lambert. If you don't want to go to the shows, then don't. Stop beating people over the head with the same repetitious sanctimonious crap that we heard when Bri and Rog toured with Paul Rodgers, or when Sammy Hagar replaced Diamond Dave, or when Pink Floyd continued without Roger Waters, or when Sabbath continued with Ronnie after Ozzy left, etc. etc. It really is boring. |
| TomP63 10.03.2014 15:56 |
TomP63 wrote: hell I even saw Queen with Paul Rodgers. I think that Paul Rodgers is an unique singer, but not a singer for Queen songs. But guess what? The very thought to see Brian and Roger on stage, together on stage made me go, I really enjoyed the new style of playing by the axe-man. Brian did a stunning job on Last Horizon. How dare you be disrespectful to Freddie like that? By buying tickets for a concert after 1992 you have contributed to the destruction of Queen's legacy that was built only by Freddie. How do you live with yourself !? Dear Bob, I'm so sorry, I'm ever so glad that you kindly have put me straight in that manner. I never ever thought that I was the one who is responsible for the destruction of Queen's legacy. What will happen to me, will you send me to the path of nevermore, I'm I banned on Queenzone? How can I go? What can I say, what can I do (Boz Scaggs).... Tom |
| The Real Wizard 10.03.2014 17:59 |
No mention of other artists here, please. It's disrespectful to Freddie. |
| brENsKi 10.03.2014 18:18 |
The Real Wizard wrote: Stop beating people over the head with the same repetitious sanctimonious crap that we heard when Bri and Rog toured with Paul Rodgers,. The Real Wizard wrote:or when Sammy Hagar replaced Diamond Dave, .but this was much better (imo) The Real Wizard wrote:or when Pink Floyd continued without Roger Waters, .if nothing else, more harmonious The Real Wizard wrote:or when Sabbath continued with Ronnie after Ozzy left, etc. etc. .two top notch albums....definitely |
| The Real Wizard 10.03.2014 22:46 |
Yup, yup and yup. Cool, I'm not the only weirdo who prefers Van Hagar. Eddie as guitar hero is of course nothing short of brilliant, but with Hagar the songs started to mean something. Right Now is one of the best songs ever written, and Balance is my favourite VH record. And then it went tits up.. High Hopes is one of the best Floyd tracks ever. Just magnificent. And Heaven and Hell is the best Sabbath album after Sabotage, hands down. |
| musicland munich 11.03.2014 00:23 |
I totally agree on Pink Floyd's "High hopes", saw them in Hannover 94'...awesome show ! hey...it was about to go off topic anyway :) |
| The Real Wizard 11.03.2014 02:19 |
Lucky you. I had a chance to see Gilmour in 2006 with Rick Wright (read: HALF of Pink Floyd) and I turned it down. Needless to say, it's the biggest concert regret of my life. And they played High Hopes on that tour. |
| gerry 11.03.2014 05:11 |
Dont care what yous lot say on here cos theres millions of RESPECTFUL Queen fans who feel very strongly towards Lambert touring with Queen. yous lot are not real ardent Queen fans but just admirers it seems, even though you have all the albums you still dont get it do you.?? A lot of fans over europe detest Lambert fronting Queen, as they appear to be very protective towards the legacy of freddie like i do, and in japan they have not even heard of lambo! so yous lot say what you want but dont forget why we are all on this site, because of the 4 guys who captured our hearts, Freddie, Brian, John, & Roger. i will never accept any other line up, no way! |
| brENsKi 11.03.2014 08:33 |
The Real Wizard wrote: Yup, yup and yup. Cool, I'm not the only weirdo who prefers Van Hagar. Eddie as guitar hero is of course nothing short of brilliant, but with Hagar the songs started to mean something. Right Now is one of the best songs ever written, and Balance is my favourite VH record. And then it went tits up.. High Hopes is one of the best Floyd tracks ever. Just magnificent. And Heaven and Hell is the best Sabbath album after Sabotage, hands down.and i thought i was in a minority of 1, on the van hagar thing? nice to see someone like-minded. I've liked SH's voice since the montrose days and his solo stuff....i personally think that he was a better fit for VH than Diamond Dick. Think DLR's vocals come across a bit "amusing/tongue in cheek", whereas Hagar has a great rock vocal and his time with VH was great. H&H imo - better or equal to anything sabbs did before or since |
| gerry 11.03.2014 08:55 |
Brian May said today on the radio that he was in awe of adam lambert fans buying all the tickets for the up and coming Queen tour, he said not many Queen fans are buying tickets as they are all Lamberts fan base, which proves my point that real Queen fans cant be arsed with the charade of lambert touring with Queen, fact! |
| Vocal harmony 11.03.2014 09:18 |
Great points made by Ludwigs, Wizard, brENsKi and TomP63. Gerry seems to be living in a different universe to the rest of us. I think that all of us would agree that Queen were an amazing BAND. Note to Gerry Band, not a singer leading three blind sheep. But as with anything in life, things change and move forward. You can't stand in one place for ever. Time doesn't allow it. Unless your Gerry of course. Everyone on here has now read Gerry's very narrow minded views on Queen, Its members those who have worked with them and those who CHOOSE to follow what they still do. In order to save Gerry having type any more, and us read anymore, wasted thoughts on the subject of BM and RT's choice of vocalist here's what needs to happen. . . . . Gerry put on a set of head phones, pick your favourite Queen album, I'm guessing greatest hits. Put it on repeat play and turn the volume up. Take a tube of super glue and apply it to the five digits of your left hand, having done that press your right and left hand fingers together. Once the glue has dried you can continue to listen to your beloved Freddie and at the same time not have the distraction of being able to login and type anything on QZ. Thus freeing yourself of the need to prove something only you believe and also freeing space for reel Queen fans to have reel discussion's. The effect on you might be a bit like being on heroin, a repetitive stupor but at a fraction of the cost. The effect on the rest of us will be freedom from such a small minded attitude towards music! |
| gerry 11.03.2014 10:12 |
vocal harmony: you may make fun of me, but at least im not like yous lot on here "pure scabs" because i happen to think more of freddie to what you knobs do. If lambet is the future of Queen then i do not wish to know and yes i will listen to Queen on cd in there glory years because Queen are crap without freddie now, and it was freddie that held that group together like glue. Be my guest and "move on" to a future with May, Taylor and lambert but they will never be as big as in there hey days with Mercury. Queen ticket sales are down and thats official today from Brian May, apparantly Adams fans are buying all the tickets and the ever faithful Queen fans are not! So vocal harmony i aint alone in this debate, and you are the wrong along with the rest of the sad shower on this site. Now go and change your nappy. |
| Vocal harmony 11.03.2014 10:57 |
Your very good at direct insults. . . . You seem to forget "the glue" that kept Queen together in the mid 80's was Brian. If Mr Bad Guy hadn't stiffed big time do you really think Freddie would have been in a hurry to make another Queen album. When left to his own devices Freddie couldn't produce an album which stood up to what Queen could produce and in some cases just sounded like very well fleshed out demos of song that Queen should have recorded. Out side of the band Freddie was nothing special as a writer. Barcelona worked because the album was a joint effort with outside writing contributions. Freddie was a great front man, and someone who sometimes had great ideas, but without the other three. . . . Or someone else to work with the glue didn't really stick anything together. RT is a far more broadly gifted musician and writer. But you carry on about how Freddie was the only reason Queen achieved anything. Those of us with an open mind will always see a different world to the one your living in. By the way, yous is not a word. And the history of Queen according to Gerry is wrong! |
| gerry 11.03.2014 12:20 |
Vocal Harmony: i was not going on about Freddies solo work i was simply saying that freddie as a lead singer and song writer was the glue that held the band together. Bohemian rhapsody, somebody to love, seven seas of rhye, dont stop me now, etc...... Those songs made Queen huge and well known and written by Freddie. Roger Taylors song writing did not come into its own until the mid 80s. Sooooooooo it was king Mercury that blended opera and rock together in many of the bands songs, instantly recognisable and made Queen rock gods. Just for the record freddie has written more singles for Queen than Taylor. yes we know Mr bad guy was a flop but it was freddie messing around with disco/funk etc..... people liked freddie more when he was doing rock/opera songs. So please some respect for Freddie on this site and stop dissing him off, he was the voltage in Queen. |
| Vocal harmony 11.03.2014 12:57 |
Blending Rock and Opera had been done many times before Freddie did it. What ever he wrote he needed the skill, as musicians, of the rest of the band to perform. Yes people liked Freddie more when he was doing rock opera songs. Well by the end of the 70's he had largely stopped doing that. Mr Bad Guy was Freddie messing around with disco/ funk. The whole album wasn't disco or funk. And if like you say he was messing around with that style, he had already done that with Queen and, by most measures of word, failed. Face facts Queen were a band, not a bunch of backing musos playing to the will of a genius composer like Frank Zappa. They all wrote. If you think it was all about the singles, then you've sunk yourself there too. John Deacon sold more and achieved more with Bites The Dust than most of what Freddie wrote. Add to that I want to Break Free, Rogers Radio GaGa and WWRY the only other hit that most people will recognize as missing is Bo,rhap. That gives Freddie one song in the really big hitters. One other thing, most of the Queen sound was/is in BM's playing and song writing. |
| gerry 11.03.2014 13:10 |
Vocal Harmony: Freddie put the anchors down for Queen with the greatest single ever written in Bohemian Rhapsody, john Deacon was a very talented song writer but again, he did not come in to his own till the 80s. Freddie was not a one big hitter as you put it. Freddie wrote most of the bands work on albums, where roger and bri may have had 2 songs each and deacon did not appear until A night at the operas "Your my best friend". A disagree with you when you say Deacons "Another one bites the dust " sold more than "Bohemian Rhapsody" though as it considered the greatest song ever written in the history of popular music. Freddie went back to the rock/opera style with "All gods people" from innuendo. |
| brENsKi 11.03.2014 14:21 |
gerry wrote: Freddie wrote most of the bands work on albums, where roger and bri may have had 2 songs each and deacon did not appear until never let "YOUR TRUTH" get in the way of the facts eh? here's some genuine facts for you - up until the point where songs started getting co credited to "queen" rather than individual writers: Freddie 50¼ songs Brian 46½ songs certainly not the "2 an album" crap you spout is it? |
| Mike G 11.03.2014 15:35 |
brENsKi wrote:Only idiots think Freddie was Queen, Brian May was a huge part of the band....almost Equal of Importance....Roger and john didn't have the overall impact of Freddie and Brian but they were very good as well.gerry wrote: Freddie wrote most of the bands work on albums, where roger and bri may have had 2 songs each and deacon did not appear untilnever let "YOUR TRUTH" get in the way of the facts eh? here's some genuine facts for you - up until the point where songs started getting co credited to "queen" rather than individual writers: Freddie 50¼ songs Brian 46½ songs certainly not the "2 an album" crap you spout is it? |
| gerry 12.03.2014 03:04 |
Brenski: Take a look at the songs on Queen and Queen2. At this early stage Freddie always had the most songs on a Queen album. As the albums continued the same set up carried on but with john Deacon contributing when they got as far as "A night at the opera" Brian and Roger still had 2 to 3 songs each on every new Queen album, with Freddie always having the most output. Yes only idiots think freddie was Queen, but they were all equal in fans eyes. |
| TomP63 12.03.2014 03:54 |
Gerry, sure Freddie wrote the most songs for Queen and Queen II, but still he needed the band, the chaps around him to get the songs recorded, performed. And not only the band, there was more than the band alone, Mike Stone, Roy Thomas Baker, to name a few. Gerry, have you ever seen Queen Live, not on DVD or video of on YouTube, but live. if so, what did you see, hear? The Freddie Mercury Band, or a band called Queen? Give it a chance mate, try and see it the other way round. Brian and Roger still performing, still bringing the well know songs, the so-much loved songs to a new generation. An other generation than ours. If so that all Lambert fans have bought the tickets, what does this tell you. It tells me that there is a market, a demand. Tom |
| gerry 12.03.2014 05:00 |
Tom: yes i have see Queen live 6 times and yes i appreciate Brian, Roger and john are there and in no way did i say Freddie was the man, i said to "Brenski" that Freddie was the main song writer in the band when they first had a few albums out. i respect Brian and Roger are still out there but its not the same is it? Adam Lambert fans probably are not bothered what he sings on stage as long as they see him live. yes there is a market but only for Adam Lambert so it seems. All of the ardent Queen fans have like me dropped out now 2 Queen members are missing. You cant drive a car with half an engine! |
| TomP63 12.03.2014 05:33 |
Gerry, yes I agree with you it isn't the same as it use to be. But it isn't the same since 1991. Maybe I'm missing the big picture here Gerry, but I can't see why it is so wrong for May/Taylor to perform? I can't see the issue why it is wrong for them to use the name Queen, they perform Queen songs, don't they? In some way I believe that they are doing Queen's legacy justice. The Queen (music) legacy is still strong. It can't be the case that it is just Freddie's legacy? It seems to me that it is more a matter of what if questions? What if May/Taylor had moved on under their own name, as a duo, and they continued to play Queen tracks, would that caused a stir? |
| gerry 12.03.2014 06:14 |
TOM: Theres nothing wrong at all with Brian & Roger performing but why do they keep sticking with lambert for? Surely he should be left to get on with his own career. I always wanted Brian and Roger to make an album with Paul McCartney because it would be perfect and they would not be selling them selves short like they are with Lambert. Other mega artists do not want to entertain Lambert so why should Queen?? It would be better for May and Taylor to go on the road together to let new fans see them but with lambert they are not doing themselves any favours and lambert is getting a free ride. |
| TomP63 12.03.2014 06:26 |
Gerry, I'll give up. I do understand your point of view, honestly I do. I think you're a nice bloke, and a real Queen fan, a die hard. Maybe we can start another discussion, maybe talk about the band heydays, or the concerts you saw. I get it now, you don't have nothing, or anything with Adam Lambert, and that is fine by me, we do live in a free world. Keep yourself alive...... Tom |
| gerry 12.03.2014 07:27 |
Tom; your the nicest guy i have spoken to on here as everyone else comes across as dense, but its refreshing that you "get me" as most on here only have one cell in there head! Yes lets change the topic. On the subject of Queen live i have seen them at Newcastle city hall in 79 Birmingham NEC84 Leeds elland road football ground 82, Newcastle st james footie ground 86. I got very close to the stage in 86 and it was the closest i have ever seen freddie and brian, i was stunned from start to finish. Freddie even nicked a coppers helmet from the side of the stage too, hilarious. |
| brENsKi 12.03.2014 09:11 |
gerry wrote: Freddie wrote most of the bands work on albums, where roger and bri may have had 2 songs each and deacon did not appear until brENsKi wrote: never let "YOUR TRUTH" get in the way of the facts eh? here's some genuine facts for you - up until the point where songs started getting co credited to "queen" rather than individual writers: Freddie 50¼ songs Brian 46½ songs certainly not the "2 an album" crap you spout is it? gerry wrote: Brenski: Take a look at the songs on Queen and Queen2. At this early stage Freddie always had the most songs on a Queen album. As the albums continued the same set up carried on but with john Deacon contributing when they got as far as "A night at the opera" Brian and Roger still had 2 to 3 songs each on every new Queen album, with Freddie always having the most output. Yes only idiots think freddie was Queen, but they were all equal in fans eyes. For your benefit I've pasted in BOTH posts relative to your latest reply (above). I have to ask - where do YOU get these shit "facts" from? from Queen I - to AKOM the writers' credits were as i stated above - 50¼ / 46½ in favour of freddie - that's an average of 4.19 for FM and 3.9 for BM. In case YOUR desperate mind needs more facts here's the writing credits up until Queen started co-crediting the whole band: queen 1 - FM 5, BM 3½ queen II - FM 6, BM 4 sha - FM 6¼, BM 4¼ opera - FM 5, BM 5 races - FM 4, BM 4 notw - FM 3, BM 4 jazz - FM 5, BM4 game - FM 3, BM 3 flash - FM 4½, BM7 HS - FM 3.7, BM 3.2 works - FM 3½, BM 3 akom - FM 2, BM 2 Honestly, where on earth do you get your crap from? is it from the darkest recesses of your twisted mind. Don't argue with the above unless you have cast iron bona-fide facts and NOT your inane rambled imaginings. I'm 100% sure you'll twist your bizarre argument off onto another tangent, now you've been proven wrong again. You're really starting to look like an insufferable prick now - but WHEN has that previously stopped you? |
| Vocal harmony 12.03.2014 09:22 |
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| gerry 12.03.2014 10:46 |
Brenski, you type a load of shit too m8. "A Night at the opera" has 5 songs written by freddie and 4 by brian, where you said 5. get your facts straight before spouting off dick head. Vocal harmony, i dont give a toss what you think of me sunshine, so do one. |
| TomP63 12.03.2014 10:53 |
gerry wrote: Tom; your the nicest guy i have spoken to on here as everyone else comes across as dense, but its refreshing that you "get me" as most on here only have one cell in there head! And in that comment Gerry's problem is crystalized for all to see. We either agree with him or we are all cast as dense. No matter who we are or what we do. It's good to know in this society of free speech Gerry has the only opinion that is allowed or matters. In this world of choice be sure not to exercise that freedom of choice because Gerry has spoken.... Well Vocal Harmony, I can tell you, I disagree with Gerry's point that everyone comes across as dense. Since I'm Dutch I'm trying hard to figure out what Gerry means with dense. But I for one had made my point clear reagarding Brian and Roger teaming up with Adam Lambert. I've followed this thread, I've read good built comments from you, as always from Brenski and Bob. I've tried to give my opinion, my thoughts, I never ever will use strong language as I think is is pointless and makes the excact point someone is making less valid. Tom |
| gerry 12.03.2014 11:02 |
TOM: You dont have to grease in with Brenski or Bob to feel one of the gang, because quite frankly i say what i think on here. im a north east lad and we do not mince words believe me. Brenski or bob are in a minority and seems they think they rule these posts, well for there benefit they do not. This site is for all to air there own views. Maybe only a chosen few are thick on here and brenski is certainly a bully. |
| brENsKi 12.03.2014 11:06 |
gerry wrote: Brenski, you type a load of shit too m8. "A Night at the opera" has 5 songs written by freddie and 4 by brian, where you said 5. get your facts straight before spouting off dick head. Vocal harmony, i dont give a toss what you think of me sunshine, so do one. gerry wrote:TOM: You dont have to grease in with Brenski or Bob to feel one of the gang, because quite frankly i say what i think on here. im a north east lad and we do not mince words believe me. Brenski or bob are in a minority and seems they think they rule these posts, well for there benefit they do not. This site is for all to air there own views. Maybe only a chosen few are thick on here and brenski is certainly a bully.I really couldn't care who says what. but it's NOT bullying to correct quite deliberate mis-truths - the like of which you've uttered. you don't get away with quoting numbers de-facto - when they are clearly anything but. BTW - "i'm a north east lad" ???? that gives you the franchise on "not mincing your words" ???? and anyone else doing so is a bully? Fuck off, you're behaving like an imbecile BTWBTW: not only is your maths shocking - see below: your English is piss poor also - "Bob"' has a capital B, it's "seem" not "seems", "think that they" not "think they" and "their" not "there" my bad. I included GSTQ (credited trad. arr May) huge mistake. and if that tiny error on my count makes me "type a load of shit" and a "dick head" then Lord in Fuckdom alone knows what that makes YOU!!! because you are the know-it-all that claimed Brian only had "two sings per album" suggest you definitely weren't paying much attention in maths class. my list is accurate - your spoutings are wildly wide of anyone's mark. NB: There's ONLY ONE album - AKOM - where Brian wrote ONLY TWO songs - the claim you attributed to his writing across all queen albums.- and co-incidentally, can you guess who else ONLY WROTE TWO fucking songs on that album? YES. Freddie , that's who. Any chance you're going come back and admit YOUR 2 songs per album claim was wrong? I doubt it...because YOU never admit being wrong do you?...and for that reason alone, I'm going to walk away from this one...before i end up as clinically insane and psychotic as you appear. |
| gerry 12.03.2014 11:08 |
God save the queen was not written by May! ask her majesty! |
| TomP63 12.03.2014 11:12 |
TOM: You dont have to grease in with Brenski or Bob to feel one of the gang, because quite frankly i say what i think on here. Oh no Gerry, now you're missing my point, I don't grease myself in with Brenski or Bob, or anybody for that matter. Most certainly not! I'm trying to point out that Brenski, Bob and Vocal Harmony have aswerd you in a nice polite manner. They have given their opinion in a civil fashion. And Gerry, do you really think that Brenski needs my help in any form to make his point clear? I don't think so...I don't see myself as one of the gang, and for that matter Gerry, what gang might that be, Kool and the Gang,........ Tom |
| gerry 12.03.2014 11:14 |
please stop the bad language m8 , your now coming across a tad nasty and spiteful. i admit i didnt check every Queen album but i do remember an interview where Brian or Roger said they only had a limited output in Queens albums in the 70s, with 2 to 3 songs each as freddie was the dominant factor with the song writing. still i have proven by your chart freddie did have more songs than Brian! now be a good little girl and wash your mouth out with listerine hun. |
| gerry 12.03.2014 11:17 |
TOM: I certainly would not say that Brenski or Vocal harmony have been civil or polite in any way, they have done nothing but insult my intelligence and used bad language. read past posts and see for yourself. i treat people the way they treat me. |
| gerry 12.03.2014 11:34 |
How odd everyone has gone quiet when i said "brenski" is a bully! How odd everyone has gone quiet when i said "vocal harmony" was rude and not civil to me. The silence says it all yeah! just a couple of bitching old queens yeah! |
| Vocal harmony 12.03.2014 11:38 |
gerry wrote: Brenski, you type a load of shit too m8. "A Night at the opera" has 5 songs written by freddie and 4 by brian, where you said 5. get your facts straight before spouting off dick head. Vocal harmony, i dont give a toss what you think of me sunshine, so do one. |
| Vocal harmony 12.03.2014 11:40 |
Nice of you to point that out Gerry. Back to you're default mode of slinging insults when your cornered by your own very limited views |
| Vocal harmony 12.03.2014 11:49 |
Tom, I don't think Gerry has a Grasp on the fact that everyone of us has an opinion. None of us can claim to be 100% right. An opinion is just a persons view it is not, as Gerry seems to think, an open door into warfare. As with any of us with a brain cell, your comments are welcomed and your kind words are appreciated. |
| brENsKi 12.03.2014 11:58 |
gerry wrote: How odd everyone has gone quiet when i said "brenski" is a bully! How odd everyone has gone quiet when i said "vocal harmony" was rude and not civil to me. The silence says it all yeah! just a couple of bitching old queens yeah!read the last sentence of my previous post. i said i'm not arguing with you on this any longer. and i meant it. |
| brENsKi 12.03.2014 12:23 |
The Real Wizard wrote: Yup, yup and yup. Cool, I'm not the only weirdo who prefers Van Hagar. Eddie as guitar hero is of course nothing short of brilliant, but with Hagar the songs started to mean something. Right Now is one of the best songs ever written, and Balance is my favourite VH record. And then it went tits up.. just dragged out 5010 today to play in the car....been two/three years since i last gave it a proper listen....had forgotten just how good it is, and how much a better fit SH's vocals were.....it's been too long |
| TomP63 12.03.2014 12:33 |
@ Vocal Harmony, As with any of us with a brain cell, your comments are welcomed and your kind words are appreciated. Thank you, well maybe we could team up, than we have a two part brain cell.....let's if this works out for us. Tom |
| gerry 12.03.2014 12:46 |
vocal harmony/Tom: It is ok when you lot are slinging insults at me but i cant fire back, sounds very unfair to me. Theres a touch of the alpha male syndrome here, all fighting to be top dog. i wouldnt insult my intelligence to team up with you lot, you think im so insane ha ha . i will treat you all with the contempt that you so richly deserve. |
| TomP63 12.03.2014 12:54 |
No Gerry, I don't think that you're insane, I haven't said that, have I. I have said that your a nice bloke, I still think your a nice bloke! Tell me one thing, why do you think I grease myself up, if this is in correct English with Brenski. Brenski doesn't need my help at all, I believe that Brenski has made valid points, by showing that Queen wasn't/isn't all about Freddie. You stated yourself that you can defend the faul language. If it is too hot for you, you'd better stay out of the kitchen. Tom |
| gerry 12.03.2014 13:35 |
Tom: i could tear those two down in flames believe me. you said earlier in a post that Brenski and Vocal Harmony have both been polite to me, you obviously have not looked through all the posts then, when they called me "simple" "a fuckin looney" and more, is that been polite my friend? No it certainly is not. im beginning to think you are all one big clique on here. i have gave back to what i recieved in nasty replies so thats fair isnt it. im not worried if they or you do not like me, because it seem there is only the 4 of us on this thread. you may think Brenski or vocal harmony made some fair points, but wait a minute because i did too. Theres always 2 sides to the coin and you my friend are biased with the other 2 guys on here. 3 people on to one in my book is pure bullying, so hang your head in shame. NO matter what you say Brenski and vocal harmony are bullies, but i bet they wouldnt say half of the things to my face what they say on here. Quite petty hiding behind the comp screen isnt it dragging someone down and bullying them. My views are mine to air, yu dont have to reply back to them unless your looking for a scrap. if you are then im ready and waiting for any of yous lot. bring it on............ |
| ludwigs 12.03.2014 17:49 |
"Lighten up Francis.........!!! " Gerry, you really are a simpleton without any nous or articulation to validate your stance in an argument. I've backed off from offering a continued thread with our interaction due to knowing that you really aren't capable of this simple adult basis. Ooh.....better not get you 'Northern Lad' irked cause you'll sort me out. Get over yourself you fool. Thing is, in essence - You are a fraught, simple sole who likes Queen. We all like Queen here....strangely - It's called Queenzone?? Sadly. your childish rants or pseudo-analysis or attempts at psychology are quite pathetic. Almost retarded - basically lower IQ stuff. My guess is that you don't have the capacity to reflect or try to interpret others views and create a valid perspective. Your response offers some shitty magazine-type buzz-fed words/ tags. You never knew Fred or any of Queen. They MAY have been a bunch of twats on many things. Who knows??? You are living on the typical filtered 'ideals' from the press. This makes you a total fool!! Unless you knew them you can't really offer facts!!! |
| BETA215 12.03.2014 21:48 |
Too much trolls will kill you if you can't make up your mind Torn between the trolled and the troll you leave behind You're headed for disaster cos you never read the signs Too much trolls will kill you every time Too much trolls will kill you just as sure as none at all It'll drain the power that's in you make you plead and scream and crawl And the pain will make you crazy, you're the victim of their crimes Too much trolls will kill you every time Yes too much trolls will kill you it'll make your life a lie Yes, too trolls love will kill you and you won't understand why You'd give your life, you'd sell your soul but here it comes again Too much trolls love will kill you in the end in the end |
| BETA215 12.03.2014 21:50 |
Sorry for the double post But trolls forced me to do this! |
| The Real Wizard 13.03.2014 00:32 |
ludwigs wrote: Gerry, you really are a simpleton without any nous or articulation to validate your stance in an argument. I've backed off from offering a continued thread with our interaction due to knowing that you really aren't capable of this simple adult basis. Thing is, in essence - You are a fraught, simple sole who likes Queen. We all like Queen here....strangely - It's called Queenzone?? Sadly. your childish rants or pseudo-analysis or attempts at psychology are quite pathetic. Almost retarded - basically lower IQ stuff. My guess is that you don't have the capacity to reflect or try to interpret others views and create a valid perspective. Your response offers some shitty magazine-type buzz-fed words/ tags. You never knew Fred or any of Queen. They MAY have been a bunch of twats on many things. Who knows??? You are living on the typical filtered 'ideals' from the press. This makes you a total fool!! Unless you knew them you can't really offer facts!!!^ this. |
| ludwigs 13.03.2014 05:07 |
And Gerry, (like Anne Elk's Brontosaurus theory ) this er-erm, theory that I presented....er, erm.....is all my own! I wouldn't say I am friends with anyone here (don't take that the wrong way...) as I haven't been in cahoots so you can forget trying to include 1 more (me) into your conspiracy theory. It is laughable how your mind works. The 'league of bullies' isn't something that I have witnessed - just re-read the thread and try to use an un-biased mindset. Look at what was actually written to you. You were the one that resorted to name-calling and insults cause you haven't the brain to use in your defence. Individuals post comments according to what they read and offer 'their' opinion. If it doesn't match yours you get the hump and ramble..... |
| gerry 13.03.2014 05:19 |
Ludwigs: You and many on here would not know a good debate if it knocked on your door. As a matter of fact i do know Freddies close friend Wayne Sleep the ballet dancer, as he used to go to my school, and he has told me many stories about Freddie and even diana princess of wales, so you and others on here know nothing about me. ha ha ! You all come across a bit jaded and you really do not know who i am or who i know, so keep your gobs shut! I have offered some interesting posts for debate but many of you on here have made your minds up and slated me, just because i hate adam lambert, well im sorry to disappoint you all but there is folk out there who agree with me, so take your rose tinted glasses off and see the bigger picture and see whats going on under your noses. A unknown young lad from american idol is getting credit and what for ???? Why dont Queen just call the group "The Adam Lambert" group and have done with it, because its NOT Queen anymore, they only use that name to make money these days, and its very much commercial. Now go on have a dig at me for that boys! |
| ludwigs 13.03.2014 06:06 |
gerry wrote: . As a matter of fact i do know Freddies close friend Wayne Sleep the ballet dancer, as he used to go to my school, and he has told me many stories about Freddie and even diana princess of wales, so you and others on here know nothing about me. ha ha ! You all come across a bit jaded and you really do not know who i am or who i know, so keep your gobs shut!And you know absolutely NOTHING about me or anyone else. Your views are jaded. Pot and kettle? gerry wrote: many of you on here have made your minds up and slated me, just because i hate adam lambert, well im sorry to disappoint you all but there is folk out there who agree with me, so take your rose tinted glasses off and see the bigger picture and see whats going on under your noses.No, many people have read your bigoted, irrational dislike of AL and how the remaining 2 of Queen are destroying their legacy? You have brought concensus due to this narrow-minded rambling and then slagging people. You are a hypocrite - doing everything that you are whining about to others first. And I really don't feel 'worried' that you could wipe the floor either verbally or physically North-East 'lad' (Does adding lad create some romantic slant - ...."eeh up, he's a canny lad but divnah cross 'im cause he's reet strong." Grow up you child!! The comfort of your bedroom typing shite makes lots of people akin to Freddies life. Big, brash and confident but in reality quite shy etc, etc. Now, do you think.....really, that you could just accept YOUR view on the matter and leave it? You have told us countless times. As I mentioned in an earlier reply - WE GET IT!!! Harping on ain't gonna get you any more siders. It's becoming tiresome. Oh, and some people are quite good at debating (I'm not including myself here) In some twisted way, do you somehow think that your 'loyalty' (read delusion) to Queen is going to be known to RT, BM or Deacy (yes, not spelled with a K) They aren't going to try to contact you and phone up saying - "Thanks for your fight Sir Gerry". Fight the Good Fight. Sir Gerry - do you work? What do you do? (sigh)................ |
| ludwigs 13.03.2014 06:06 |
double post |
| gerry 13.03.2014 10:02 |
Ludwig: Now how do i come across bigoted then? loyalty is a word you have hit upon, because not many people have realised that you are on this site thanks to Freddie Mercury. Without freddie there would never have been a band called Queen. i admit i dislike lambert you know he is not as talented as freddie, but people can make there own minds up about that one, there ive said it! happy now little boy.By the way sir Gerry sounds good, keep using that name, i deserve it with yous lot on here! |
| ludwigs 13.03.2014 10:24 |
Bigotry is the state of mind of a bigot: someone who, as a result of their prejudices, treats or views other people with fear, distrust, hatred, contempt, or intolerance on the basis of a person's opinion, ethnicity, race, religion, national origin, gender, gender identity, sexual orientation, disability, socioeconomic status, or other characteristics. Voila! I think your views on AL fall somewhere into this category? And, I'm on this site cause I've been a fan since I was 7 - so 40 years or so but I'm not so damn deluded to assume I am being disloyal cause I opt to have the opinion that Queen can do whatever they want to. I have my preference and will continue to listen back to the albums. I have no interest whether they decide to tour, play, record with who they damn well want to. I won't be buying it - There ya see....I'm 'loyal' too. Also, there would've been no Queen without the other 3. Can you understand that? |
| gerry 13.03.2014 10:41 |
Ludwig: i agree there wold be no Queen without the other 3 but there again, it was freddies seed to plant and it grew and grew and grew! On the subject of bigotry there must be people you dislike also as im sure your not so perfect yourself? |
| Vocal harmony 13.03.2014 10:44 |
Gerry I'm not in cahoots with anyone on. Here. You are mistaking a shared view with being in league with each other. When you began posting your dislike of BM and RT working with AL I was one of the people who actually agreed that Adam would never be as good as Freddie, and in so doing supported your right to that opinion. That was fine until a couple of posts later when I had said there was nothing wrong them touring together. Your response was that I was a moron and not a real Queen fan. So you now argue that I'm insulting towards you. Well I think you'll find you fired the first shot in that respect and continue to do so. You've started taking the same tone with Tom, who in the space of a cuople of posts seems to have gone from being someone you agree with to someone you don't like, again because he has an opinion that you don't agree with or don't like. Ludwigs seems to have made some very valid points, yet again, what he says seems to go beyond your ability to respond to in an measured adult fashion. We know nothing about you. . . . . Well we do. Because you've made a point, as you have before, that you know Wayne Sleep. The truth is you really know nothing about the people your insulting, who any of us are, what we know or what we do. And yet again can I just inform you that YOUS is not a word!!!!!! |
| Pingfah 13.03.2014 10:46 |
Does this Gerry chap do anything except bitch and whine about Adam Lambert? I'm no fan of the Lam, but this article was about Brian's health scare, there's no reason at all for it to be an argument about Adam Fucking Lambert. Gerry, if you hate the guy so much, shut the fuck up about him you stupid dick! |
| Mike G 13.03.2014 10:47 |
Pingfah wrote: Does this Gerry chap do anything except bitch and whine about Adam Lambert? I'm no fan of the Lam, but this article was about Brian's health scare, there's no reason at all for it to be an argument about Adam Fucking Lambert. Gerry, if you hate the guy so much, shit the fuck up about him you stupid dick!Maybe Gerry has a boy crush on Adam |
| ludwigs 13.03.2014 11:52 |
gerry wrote: Ludwig: i agree there wold be no Queen without the other 3 but there again, it was freddies seed to plant and it grew and grew and grew! On the subject of bigotry there must be people you dislike also as im sure your not so perfect yourself?No, Fred joined 2 thirds of Smile and they auditioned Deacy and worked as a unit. They nurtured what they had and it evolved into the hugely popular group. As they said - they were all equals. No component is greater than the sum of it's parts. How can you not see this? I have quite particular tastes and this is my choice. I could never really get into the Stones, Oasis, etc etc but that's not to say that I state they are shit. Music sales and fans can confirm these facts....just that it's not something that I can like. I'm heavily into flamenco so I doubt that most of my favourite players you have even heard of. I am also a massive Rush fan but lost interest after their 'Hold Your Fire' album. Doesn't mean to say I'm wrong or not loyal cause they are bigger than ever now. It's MY choice and preference. Many will not understand why I like my things, just in the same way that you just can't accept that Queen have taken AL to front them - so they can perform again cause they probably like to do so. I'm sure your 'buddy' Wayne Sleep still keeps his hand in. Wasn't he on some show in the last few years that wasn't deemed 'proper ballet'?? Did the loyal snobs cast him out . No they didn't. You need to seriously expand your blinkered way of thinking. It's a sign of maturity to have your view and just accept that it's just YOUR view and appreciate others' opinions vary from yours. Doesn't mean that you are correct or the 'yous are. Move along.............. From Ludwigs a.k.a. - Little man |
| gerry 13.03.2014 12:08 |
PINGFAH: Dont you dare tell me to shut the fuck up, you streaky piece of shit, i have the right to express whatever i want to say on here so keep your fucking snout out of my buisness, Ludwig: Thanks for your nice piece and i respect what you say, but yeah im a passionate Freddie fan, so youll understand why i think the way i do. peace! |
| Mike G 13.03.2014 13:24 |
ludwigs wrote:I agree with almost everything you said....I lost interest in Rush After Hold your Fire or Presto....And I understand Queen were a unit all contributed great things. Take one member away and Queen might not have made it...or sounded the same, it took all four members to make Queen what they were, but saying all that, they were not Equals....No way was John Deacon equal to Freddie mercury, that's pure ignorance. Watch any Documentray and it's all about Freddie's impact, Brian gets a good mention, while Roger hardly gets mentioned as a great drummer, but only how drunk he got and spent a night in Jail. John gets a mention occasionally...they were not equals. Queen's prime Freddie and Brian wrote all the impact songs...Roger and John wrote only 2 songs per album...In Roger's case only the occasional good song...The rest were filler like Loser in the end.....They were not Equals! Now watch Rush's Documentray Geddy and pert get equal praise and lifeson pretty close...They were equals.gerry wrote: Ludwig: i agree there wold be no Queen without the other 3 but there again, it was freddies seed to plant and it grew and grew and grew! On the subject of bigotry there must be people you dislike also as im sure your not so perfect yourself?No, Fred joined 2 thirds of Smile and they auditioned Deacy and worked as a unit. They nurtured what they had and it evolved into the hugely popular group. As they said - they were all equals. No component is greater than the sum of it's parts. How can you not see this? I have quite particular tastes and this is my choice. I could never really get into the Stones, Oasis, etc etc but that's not to say that I state they are shit. Music sales and fans can confirm these facts....just that it's not something that I can like. I'm heavily into flamenco so I doubt that most of my favourite players you have even heard of. I am also a massive Rush fan but lost interest after their 'Hold Your Fire' album. Doesn't mean to say I'm wrong or not loyal cause they are bigger than ever now. It's MY choice and preference. Many will not understand why I like my things, just in the same way that you just can't accept that Queen have taken AL to front them - so they can perform again cause they probably like to do so. I'm sure your 'buddy' Wayne Sleep still keeps his hand in. Wasn't he on some show in the last few years that wasn't deemed 'proper ballet'?? Did the loyal snobs cast him out . No they didn't. You need to seriously expand your blinkered way of thinking. It's a sign of maturity to have your view and just accept that it's just YOUR view and appreciate others' opinions vary from yours. Doesn't mean that you are correct or the 'yous are. Move along.............. From Ludwigs a.k.a. - Little man |
| Mike G 13.03.2014 13:30 |
By the way, I'm a fan of Roger And John...I'm not putting them down at all...Deaky wrote song great tunes, as Roger did. |
| Mike G 13.03.2014 13:37 |
gerry wrote: PINGFAH: Dont you dare tell me to shut the fuck up, you streaky piece of shit, i have the right to express whatever i want to say on here so keep your fucking snout out of my buisness, Ludwig: Thanks for your nice piece and i respect what you say, but yeah im a passionate Freddie fan, so youll understand why i think the way i do. peace!Everyone on this site is a Freddie Mercury Fan, And I agree about Lambert, he's truly horrible singing Queen songs...He'll be good for broadway or something. But I'm only tempted too go seethem at the garden too see Brian and Roger for the last time...Even though I'll cringe at the sight of Lambert...I'll probably pass on this show in the end... |
| gerry 13.03.2014 13:44 |
Mike G: I SAID ROGER AND JOHN WROTE 2 SONGS PER ALBUM BUT "BRENSKI" ON HERE WENT OFF HIS HEAD AT ME. I ALSO POINTED OUT JUST LIKE YOU THAT JUST HAVING 2 MEMBERS TOURING IS LIKE HAVING A CAR WITH HALF AN ENGINE ON THE ROAD, AND IT NOT QUEEN AT ALL, ITS JUST MAY AND TAYLOR FLOGGING A DEAD HORSE AND CALLING IT QUEEN. WHY SETTLE FOR SECOND BEST?? |
| brENsKi 13.03.2014 14:24 |
gerry wrote: Mike G: I SAID ROGER AND JOHN WROTE 2 SONGS PER ALBUM BUT "BRENSKI" ON HERE WENT OFF HIS HEAD AT ME. I ALSO POINTED OUT JUST LIKE YOU THAT JUST HAVING 2 MEMBERS TOURING IS LIKE HAVING A CAR WITH HALF AN ENGINE ON THE ROAD, AND IT NOT QUEEN AT ALL, ITS JUST MAY AND TAYLOR FLOGGING A DEAD HORSE AND CALLING IT QUEEN. WHY SETTLE FOR SECOND BEST?? Gerry. YOU said NO SUCH thing. I've re-pasted below what YOU actually typed - you NEVER mentioned JOHN - check again - and don't go editing your original post or your post above this - YOU definitely originally said "roger and bri" ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ gerry wrote:Vocal Harmony: Freddie put the anchors down for Queen with the greatest single ever written in Bohemian Rhapsody, john Deacon was a very talented song writer but again, he did not come in to his own till the 80s. Freddie was not a one big hitter as you put it. Freddie wrote most of the bands work on albums, where roger and bri may have had 2 songs each and deacon did not appear until A night at the operas "Your my best friend". A disagree with you when you say Deacons "Another one bites the dust " sold more than "Bohemian Rhapsody" though as it considered the greatest song ever written in the history of popular music. Freddie went back to the rock/opera style with "All gods people" from innuendo. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ gerry wrote: Freddie wrote most of the bands work on albums, where roger and bri may have had 2 songs each and deacon did not appear until brENsKi wrote:never let "YOUR TRUTH" get in the way of the facts eh? here's some genuine facts for you - up until the point where songs started getting co credited to "queen" rather than individual writers: Freddie 50¼ songs Brian 46½ songs certainly not the "2 an album" crap you spout is it? +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ now, any chance at all now that YOU might finally come back and admit to EVERYONE that YOU got it wrong - that YOU didn't even kNOW the difference between what you thought you'd typed and what you actually typed? any chance? thought not. PS - Deacon did appear BEFORE "you're my best friend" - thought you were a "back in the day original queen fan? then how did you elect to forget JD's SHA track "misfire" ??? |
| FreddieCat 13.03.2014 22:54 |
Back to the heath issue. Brian looks and sounds fabulous and easily toured with Kerry. But 19 performances on this Q + AL tour is alot. I think he can do it but this upcoming tour may physically take alot out of him. He seems determined but hopefully will listen to his body. He performed the iHeart gig just after his operation and from viewing the vid, was obviously in pain. He is now stronger and better, hopefully enough for this challenging tour. |
| Pingfah 14.03.2014 04:58 |
gerry wrote: PINGFAH: Dont you dare tell me to shut the fuck up, you streaky piece of shit, i have the right to express whatever i want to say on here so keep your fucking snout out of my buisness,And I have the right to tell you to shut the fuck up. So shut the fuck up, Gerry. |
| gerry 14.03.2014 06:10 |
Pingfah: be thankful your behind a computer screen buddy because you wouldnt tell me to shut the fuck up to my face believe me Now get back under your stone.. |
| Pingfah 14.03.2014 06:38 |
Oooh, internet tough guy. Those are the toughest of all! |
| gerry 14.03.2014 07:21 |
YEAH IF YOU CANT TAKE IT MATEY DONT DISH IT OUT! |
| Pingfah 14.03.2014 07:29 |
I'm right here taking it now, so I'm not sure what your exact complaint is. But I can tell you really mean it BECAUSE OF ALL THE SHOUTING. |
| gerry 14.03.2014 07:37 |
Yes im shouting because your first post to me was rather un-pleasant to say the least. Manners are free you know, try it some time. |
| Pingfah 14.03.2014 07:40 |
You're a complete twat to just about everybody who interacts with you, and spend your time derailing every thread with whining bullshit. So no, you get what you deserve. |
| gerry 14.03.2014 07:45 |
ha ha glad you like my posts sunshine. i always get a reaction even from wankers like you - cool dude! |
| Vocal harmony 14.03.2014 08:38 |
gerry wrote: ha ha glad you like my posts sunshine. i always get a reaction even from wankers like you - cool dude!Gerry, your now sounding like a troll who uses Freddies name as ammunition and the safety of a keyboard from which to hurl insults. |
| gerry 14.03.2014 08:51 |
Vocal harmony: read pingfahs posts to me, and see whos hurling insults. honestly yous lots on here are unbelievable. |
| Pingfah 14.03.2014 08:56 |
Calm down now son, there's no need to get so upset. |
| Vocal harmony 14.03.2014 09:39 |
gerry wrote: Vocal harmony: read pingfahs posts to me, and see whos hurling insults. honestly yous lots on here are unbelievable.It's the level you take it too, and how quickly you turn to using that tact. Whether it is you describing Adam Lambert, or a person posting something you don't like. Anyone who doesn't share your view is an open target for you. Because as soon as you come up against someone who actually makes sense and presents a strong argument, or opinion, you seem unable to interact on the same level. And yet again. . . Yous is not a word. |
| FreddieCat 14.03.2014 11:26 |
matt z wrote: Unpredictably shallOw response. "Might affect later gigs" For a man who's brought countless inspiration and motivation as a part of this band, it's pretty obscene to just focus on that. I hope Brian remains in good health. Thank you Bri. You've inspired so many of us. (DOUBT he ever reads this stuff, but please know it, man. Cheers. You are a unique artist, love you bro-ham)I deeply hope this also. My worry is that he will perform these upcoming shows regardless of his health issues. Recall Freddie and Queens words, "I will work until I fucking drop!". Freddie worked well into his illness and I see Brian and Roger too willing to work through painful health problems, ignoring important signs and symptoms. If at any time during these shows Brian and Roger need to cancel a show to rest, hopefully they will. The Show Must Go On yes, but only if they are able. |
| gerry 14.03.2014 12:31 |
Vocal harmony: Get yourself on link theres a piece about adam lambert and Queen and how john Deacon ants nothing to do with it all as he is too fragile, anyway there is a blog where people have left comments and lambert has been slated left right and centre. soooooooooo im not the only one who does not like the idea of him been with Queen He may be a good singer but he should concentrate on his own career yeah. Brenski and yourself can go and slag all those other Queen fans who say lambert is shite. Be warned youl loose l.o.l |
| Pingfah 14.03.2014 15:27 |
Yeah but half those comments are you ranting exactly in the way you do here. Don't get me wrong, I agree with you about Lambert, I think it's a terrible idea and I hope to god they don't record with him. But that doesn't excuse the appalling way you behave here. If I was rude to you it is only because you have been shitting all over every thread winding people up. Trolling Classic Rock is one thing, but this is a Queen forum. That means Queen fans come here every day to read about Queen, and when it's just some shrill, sweary, ranting arsehole being horrible to everyone and dragging totally unrelated threads off into arguments, that wears people down whether they agree with you or not. |
| brENsKi 14.03.2014 16:02 |
gerry wrote: Brenski and yourself can go and slag all those other Queen fans who say lambert is shite. Be warned youl loose l.o.lyou need to learn to fucking well read. soon. I have NEVER SAID I LIKED LAMBERT or Lambert & Queen. I actually said i don't like like, but respect the fact it's their choice to do as they wish. now stop misquoting me you ignorant c*nt. (btw - you've insulted me and misquoted me three times now) so that last swear word is long overdue. I apologise to anyone else on here who is offended by that - BUT NO APOLOGY to YOU - you really are an ignorant c*nt of the first order. |
| gerry 15.03.2014 05:26 |
Well there you go youve shown your true colours on here and let the people see your not perfect after all, what a classic bully you really are. If your not getting your own way and praises of everyone you throw your toys out of your little pram! Wont be the first time youve insulted me buddy. But there we go everyone BRENSKI is a first class bully and not the lovely sweet guy you thought he was. Theres 2 sides to a coin and you dont want to debate it because your right all the time ! You may have had many disagreements on here with Queen fans but your not getting one over on me sweetie. If you dont like what you read then move on, pure and simple. toodle pip. |
| brENsKi 15.03.2014 09:52 |
gerry wrote: Well there you go youve shown your true colours on here and let the people see your not perfect after all, what a classic bully you really are. If your not getting your own way and praises of everyone you throw your toys out of your little pram! Wont be the first time youve insulted me buddy. But there we go everyone BRENSKI is a first class bully and not the lovely sweet guy you thought he was. Theres 2 sides to a coin and you dont want to debate it because your right all the time ! You may have had many disagreements on here with Queen fans but your not getting one over on me sweetie. If you dont like what you read then move on, pure and simple. toodle pip. "but your not getting one over on me sweetie." [sic] It looks very much like - apart from the previous half-dozen times i was right and you were very wrong - you could be right. I'm not getting one over on you - I'm getting 12 over on you - see your post above. you've you're you're off won't you've There's don't you're all of the time you're don't Funny isn't it? - how you think you are right and everyone else around here is wrong? Don't expect another reply - because I've resigned myself to acceptance that you can't reason with the unreasonable - and YOU are extremely unreasonable. I really am done with discussing anything with you. I tried to reason with you on this thread and another one - but you can't be reasoned with. You even contradict yourself - claiming you said "John" when you actually were quoted saying "Bri" and saying you never said "2" tracks per album when you were quoted as such. Still it's a credit to "care in the community" that they let you use a computer and the internet - amazing what they're doing these days. Good luck with your electro-shock therapy - something must work on you, eventually. Ask the nurse to turn the voltage up nice and high - say 10,000 volts. |
| FreddieCat 15.03.2014 11:09 |
and he is sick again link "I've been v quiet. It's because I've been pretty sick. Too sick to even crawl to a computer. Hoping to be fit to fly to Moscow tomorrow. " Get well Dr. May!!! |
| gerry 15.03.2014 11:23 |
Poor Brenski: you know now you cant get one over on me im like David Cameron you know thick skinned. Was the classic rock blog too much for you to handle, you wouldnt get your own way with those guys, there would eat you up and spit you out! Anyway the guys on this thread are not competitive enough are they! They want to be all nicey nicey and agree all is well in the Queen camp when infact its a disgrace & a joke but lets not argue over that one yeah! boy band pop meets Queen o.m.g such is life! Here is a quote from a classic rock magazine fan: "May & Taylor are flogging the name Queen around like some cheap whore, where anyone can stand on stage with them. Freddie must be turning in his gave"! Actually he has a good point! |
| Vocal harmony 15.03.2014 13:29 |
gerry wrote: Vocal harmony: Get yourself on link theres a piece about adam lambert and Queen and how john Deacon ants nothing to do with it all as he is too fragile, anyway there is a blog where people have left comments and lambert has been slated left right and centre. soooooooooo im not the only one who does not like the idea of him been with Queen He may be a good singer but he should concentrate on his own career yeah. Brenski and yourself can go and slag all those other Queen fans who say lambert is shite. Be warned youl loose l.o.lWhy would I waste wy time reading a thread that you've trolled. Pointless! It all comes down to the simple fact that you can't live with the fact that different people have different views. It doesn't make people right or wrong. What is wrong is when someone thinks they have the right say that BN and RT don't have the right to do want they want to. Or when someone turns there dislike of what an artist does into a personel attack on that person. Those who want to buy tickets for this tour will, those who don't won't . That's how it works On the subject of John Deacon he hasn't said anything to the press about this tour. He retired from the business a long time ago. The last time he said anything was when Robbie Williams was very much in the running. If he wasn't happy with what the band were doing he'd say something. You ranting on about your hatred for Adam Lambert and how Queen are destroying Freddies legacy is making you look like an idiot. Which I'm sure you're not but. . . . |
| gerry 15.03.2014 14:24 |
Vocal Harmony: There is more than me expressing my sheer disgust at Queen so get your head out of the sand matey. yes all the tickets will go to the american idol / Xfactor crowds but real Queen fans will be forgotton about because its all about Lambert. i dont hate lambert but just think he is not right to front Queen, Anything would be better than watching this second rate concert do you think, even sticking a Queen dvd on or a Queen cd! Im trying to get a good debate going here but you like brenski are hell bent on shooting me down, just because my views are different to yours! Are you a Queen fan? Or like me a passionate Queen fan, there is a difference you know. Think about that with brenski with the half cell you share between your selves l.o.l |
| Vocal harmony 15.03.2014 14:46 |
There you go again. . . There are plenty of Queen fans buying tickets too. Do you think that it was only Queen fans or Paul Rodgers fans who bought tickets when he was fronting the band. Or was it fans of both artists? You need to go back and re read your rants, in the past, about Adam Lambert.you made it very clear what you thought of him. A debate is a debate, it isn't standing on a soap box calling people names or saying they've only go one brain cell because they have a view that doesn't match yours. If you're being shot down it's because you have made yourself an easy target because of the fact that you won't except there is more than one view. Just for the record, since you mentioned it earlier, I have never said I like AL or that I want him in the band. What I said was, I think he suits what they do more than PR. The atmosphere created at Hammersmith felt far more like a Queen show than any of the PR shows. I've also said it's up to BM and RT who they choose to work with. And I'd rather see them play live with someone than not play |
| gerry 15.03.2014 15:21 |
ok im sorry for been bitchy im not all bad l.o.l i know we all have our own views on certain matters, but i grew up with Freddie from 8 years of age so yeah i do feel very bitter that the band i loved has gone and turned into a group with a reality singer what a kick in the teeth for Mercurys fans. As far as im concerned and feel, its not the same Queen group which made my spine tingle every time i saw them live. im just really angry and i guess ive fired all the bullets at some of the guys on here cos i feel betrayed and hurt that lambert is getting all the attention over Freddie. Even Brian has turned hard faced and so has Roger, when he said in a magazine "its time to forget about Freddie now, life moves on" how awful was that! Its like get a new hoover and sod the old one! |
| The Real Wizard 16.03.2014 00:40 |
gerry wrote: yes all the tickets will go to the american idol / Xfactor crowds but real Queen fans will be forgotton about because its all about Lambert.I guess I'm not a real Queen fan then, despite the fact that a) I have never watched a whole episode of Idol in my life, and b) I run one of the most popular Queen websites on the internet. Or - could it be possible that there are more than two ways to think here !?? Hmm.. Im trying to get a good debate going hereYou're failing miserably because you dismiss all views that do not match your own. You have spent 7 pages of this thread attacking people because they disagree with you, not encouraging a healthy exchange of ideas. Are you a Queen fan? Or like me a passionate Queen fan, there is a difference you know.You choose to equate "passionate Queen fan" with "people who think like you." Once again, your binary thinking rules the day. Do you even know what binary means? It means your brain can only see two possible ways of thinking - your way, and every other way (which you choose to interpret as one lump sum of "the wrong way"). For the sake of all the people you encounter in your daily life - please work on that. |
| The Real Wizard 16.03.2014 00:42 |
gerry wrote: im just really angry and i guess ive fired all the bullets at some of the guys on here cos i feel betrayed and hurt that lambert is getting all the attention over Freddie.Betrayed and hurt ? Reality check - they're a rock band playing a few gigs, not your wife shagging your brother behind your back. Brian and Roger are musicians. They want to play. If Freddie is dead, they need someone who can sing for 2 hours a night. It doesn't mean they (or anyone) is disrespecting Freddie. They're the first people to say Freddie can't be replaced... from day one they have said you cannot replace the irreplaceable. Why can you not understand this basic line of thinking? You chose not to see Brian and Roger potentially for the last time. If this doesn't somehow affect you, then you may actually be more of a Freddie fan than a Queen fan. Half of Queen is still better than no Queen in a LOT of people's eyes. If not yours, then that's fine. If you think watching an old DVD is better than seeing two members of Queen live, then great. Nobody's telling you that there's something wrong with you if that's your choice. So stop with the sanctimonious crap, insisting that everyone who doesn't agree with you is somehow not as "loyal" a fan as you are. If anything, they're MORE of a Queen fan because they still want to see two members of Queen while you're content to sit at home living in the past. I stopped following Dream Theater after Mike Portnoy left the band. Other people didn't. They're the real fans for sticking with the band, not me. I'm not somehow more of a Dream Theater fan because I jumped ship out of loyalty to Portnoy. This just means I'm a fan of Portnoy era Dream Theater, full stop. I don't like where their music is going, but I'm smart enough not to try and convince people that the true Dream Theater ended in 2009. It's clearly still going on, just with a different lineup. People feel strongly about Yes going on without Jon Anderson, but their frustrations are actually justified. Yes chose to hire a singer from a Yes tribute band while Anderson recovered from almost dying of acute respiratory failure. But I still went to the shows because I love Steve Howe and Chris Squire, and the music as a whole. I didn't spent one second lamenting the fact that Anderson wasn't there. I chose to appreciate what I did have. And I'll be doing the same when I see Queen with Adam. |
| The Real Wizard 16.03.2014 01:46 |
gerry wrote: Even Brian has turned hard faced and so has Roger, when he said in a magazine "its time to forget about Freddie now, life moves on"Show me the quote. It sounds like you're paraphrasing poorly. They are far more diplomatic (and respectful to Freddie) than that. |
| gerry 16.03.2014 04:42 |
Real wizard: Reality check to you, this charade with lambert is more than a few concerts its been going on for quite some time now. Next we have the terrible album with lambert, how low can Queen go??? The Queen machine is well and truly over and i am one of many who will not waste money on see half a group in concert, i am more sensible with my money than most. i think i am very justified with many of my comments on here and i would make a great journalist for a music magazine! Everyone to there own ok. Never realised you were in to boy band pop drivel. |
| ludwigs 16.03.2014 05:33 |
................sigh................................................. Beyond help!! |
| brENsKi 16.03.2014 06:20 |
gerry wrote: and i would make a great journalist for a music magazine!Ha ha ha ha. 15 words says YOU wouldn't make a great "journo" - of ANY description. you've you're off won't There's don't all of the time their it's for you (not to you) seeing (not see) being (not been) I'm Mercury's I've |
| gerry 16.03.2014 07:14 |
BRENSKI: Now who is been nasty! There is no law in which i have to write queens english on here, its only a thread for gods sake, lighten up man. i am not bothered what you may think of me, as i have every right to be me, and express what i think. so if you do not like that then you have the problem. Grow up you are very childish. |
| brENsKi 16.03.2014 08:07 |
Gerry You made the claim that you'd make a good journo. I made an observation based on that claim - a light-hearted one. Don't think I need to "lighten up" you're the one being aggressive. You could redeem things a little by admitting you said "Bri" and not "John" wrote "two songs per album". You shouldn't accuse people of bullying you, when you cast the first stones. Anyhow, i'll let bygones be bygones. Now it'd be nice if you'd care to respond to the other thread you posted in where you've said things about Queen's treatment of the fans, and I've addressed each of your points in turn (several days ago). It'd be interesting to see how you might respond. |
| TomP63 16.03.2014 08:14 |
Brenski, I admire your stamina, as you can see, i have stopped posting reagarding this subject a few days ago. Sir Gerry seems to me a nice guy, but on this subject he's suffering with one track mind. Tom |
| gerry 16.03.2014 08:58 |
TOM: Thanks for saying i am a nice guy that is much appreciated. yes i have got a one track mind especially on this subject just like Brian May has on badger culling, well i have on adam lambert fronting Queen. It does not mean i am simple or loosing the plot like many on here have said, it just means i am a passionate man defending Freddie who is not here to defend himself. I have high standards with my music and i am not easily pleased like most on here. Nothing wrong with having high standards. Brian i like a record repeating himself about the badgers well i am the same regarding Adam Lambert, i just do not get it or why Queen waste there time on this pointless tour. |
| Vocal harmony 16.03.2014 11:34 |
gerry wrote: TOM: Thanks for saying i am a nice guy that is much appreciated. yes i have got a one track mind especially on this subject just like Brian May has on badger culling, well i have on adam lambert fronting Queen. It does not mean i am simple or loosing the plot like many on here have said, it just means i am a passionate man defending Freddie who is not here to defend himself. I have high standards with my music and i am not easily pleased like most on here. Nothing wrong with having high standards. Brian i like a record repeating himself about the badgers well i am the same regarding Adam Lambert, i just do not get it or why Queen waste there time on this pointless tour. |
| Vocal harmony 16.03.2014 11:47 |
Gerry this isn't a pointless tour. If like you've said only AL fans buy tickets, then Queens music, the music Freddie helped create will reach an new audience who wouldn't have otherwise heard any of it. Younger fans who did get a chance to see the band in the day will have a chance to experience something of what a Queen show was like in the day. No it won't be the same, but as good as the DVD's are, the excitement and atmosphere a good live band creates is better then sitting at home watching a TV Some older fans enjoy gigs, and in some cases enjoy seeing and hearing the bands they loved in the day. Yes lineups change, so it is never quite the same but it's the closest in a live setting it's possible to get to how it used to be Is it disrespectful to Freddie. I don't think it is. It's keeping the music alive for people to enjoy. They haven't rerecorded the albums with a replacement singer. The songs will always be there for people to enjoy. BM and RT spent a lot of years avoiding doing any shows on this scale under the Queen name despite being told by Elton John they should go out there and do something |
| The Real Wizard 16.03.2014 11:52 |
gerry wrote: Now who is been nasty! There is no law in which i have to write queens english on here,True, but obviously you don't understand that the ability to demonstrate basic grammatical skills gives people the impression that you a) are intelligent and b) could possibly be a "journalist for a music magazine." Combined with your inability to see a situation beyond your own opinion, you are literally the last person on this forum who should be a writer on any subject, never mind music. yes i have got a one track mind especially on this subject just like Brian May has on badger culling, well i have on adam lambert fronting Queen.The difference between you and Brian here is that Brian is armed with FACTS. Scientific facts via observational data that withstood peer review. You, on the other hand, have a superiority complex where you think you're better than other people because you didn't go to a rock concert. Do you know what peer review means? Do you know the difference between fact and opinion? Carry on... |
| gerry 16.03.2014 14:02 |
The real wizard: i find your last reply very patronising indeed, so now your discriminating me because of my writing skills well thanks for that matey, it does not make me simple or stupid, as i am a bright guy. i have a lot of knowledge on music over the last 40 years. Brenski, when i quoted saying Brian and Roger said in an interview that they only got 2 to 3 songs per Queen album it was actually Roger who said that so go and ear bash Roger. you say i have a superiority complex and i think i am better than other people on here well that is your opinion, i just try to be honest and straight forward, no messing about. Vocal Harmony: sorry but your talking a load of bull saying AD & Queen will be as good as any Queen DVD, are you mad or what? its people like you that encourages crap on todays music scene, but i am not ranting but it was a silly comment. Nothing Queen does now will ever stand the test of time like there original work with Freddie, and the kids do not need to see half a Queen band when they have "you tube" and itunes to catch upon all the albums, its just a ride for Adam to further his career and to make money for Brian and Roger. |
| SmokyQuartz 16.03.2014 16:41 |
The Real Wizard wrote:gerry wrote: Even Brian has turned hard faced and so has Roger, when he said in a magazine "its time to forget about Freddie now, life moves on"Show me the quote. It sounds like you're paraphrasing poorly. They are far more diplomatic (and respectful to Freddie) than that. |
| SmokyQuartz 16.03.2014 16:42 |
Well I wrote something and it disappeared. I'll comment later, lol |
| The Real Wizard 16.03.2014 17:02 |
gerry wrote: you say i have a superiority complex and i think i am better than other people on here well that is your opinion,No, that's not an opinion. It's a fact based on observation of your behaviour. This clearly demonstrates that you cannot distinguish fact from opinion. I seriously feel sorry for you. |
| The Real Wizard 16.03.2014 17:05 |
SmokyQuartz wrote: Well I wrote something and it disappeared. I'll comment later, lolWhen that happens (and unfortunately it happens often), there are a few steps to take.. 1) click 'back' 2) right click / copy what you wrote 3) go back to the ruined post at the end of the thread and click on the edit button (the left of the three) 4) select all or delete everything in the post, and right click / paste The programming of this forum should have a better solution, but at least this works.. |
| ludwigs 16.03.2014 17:17 |
gerry wrote: The real wizard: i find your last reply very patronising indeed, so now your discriminating me because of my writing skills well thanks for that matey, it does not make me simple or stupid, as i am a bright guy. i have a lot of knowledge on music over the last 40 years. you say i have a superiority complex and i think i am better than other people on here well that is your opinion, i just try to be honest and straight forward, no messing about.Well, you did state that you were credibly (look that one up) qualified to be a writer for a magazine??? Your writing skills are quite childish! It's plain (not plane) to see. (not sea....yawn...) You could be a bright guy but , sadly, your ramblings and quite sad psychological review of your ( not you're) temperament shows that you AREN'T quite the 'full-schilling - quote a Freddie line????) You said you don't hate AL (AD???) on a recent post but........there are multiple pages where ( not wear) you have slated the guy and pressed how much you hate him!!!) A reflective answer is nice....shows you could be rational.....but then you ruin it all again by spouting your (not 'yore' - as in...tales of old ) tirade! This gives us (pseudo-psychologists) an insight into your true rationale/persona. If ya gonna debate, at least get your ammunition and intact! |
| SmokyQuartz 16.03.2014 17:40 |
Ok what I wrote was along these lines: Firstly I was a fan of Queen from age 5 when I first saw Bohemian Rhapsody. A 5 year old's interpretation of what was going on in Bo Rhap is something else! Never saw them live but I later saw Roger and Brian do their solo stuff. Anyway, I'd say Gerry that I can understand your loyalty to Freddie. It was the biggest shock in the world to so many of us when he died. If you can't find the exact quote of Brian and what he said I'd forget it. Everything I've heard him say up to now has been tremendously respectful of his friend. I've been thinking about this whole debate and, like many people I'd find Marc Martel far more palatable to sing for the guys....but then I thought about it again....maybe it's the very discomfort that Adam is creating that is making them go with him. Freddie made them uncomfortable at first. Maybe it's people's negative reaction to him that makes them think it would be right? Freddie believed in progress and newness and change...He was the key player in the creation of Queen, the music, the image and the marketing, especially during it's formation. His personal legacy is safe. I wonder who he would choose to sing? What qualities would he want them to have? Brian and Roger have such a hard task in all this and maybe they've decided that if they are a bit uncomfortable with a singer, then that might be the one to go with. Freddie may have influenced this decision more than we realise..I can see an egoless side to Freddie that would be able to think this all through. Strange that, considering his role, but he was expansive that way. Just my two cents, i'll probably change my mind later, lol...but remember the younger generation love Freddie, he is still inspiring young teenage writers, etc. He was enigmatic! |
| The Real Wizard 16.03.2014 18:50 |
^ great post. If they wanted to go out there with someone who sounded like Mercury, they would've toured with George Michael in the 90s. That was never in the cards. And that's why they're not going to tour with Marc Martel. If they're not hitting some kind of new territory, they're not interested. If they lose a few fans for it, it's no skin off their back. For every fan they lose, there's ten more to be gained by touring America with a big name... about the same ratio of fans lost/gained when Metallica "sold out" by putting out the Black album. |
| gerry 17.03.2014 04:06 |
Smokey Quartz: Thanks for the great post and thanks for understanding my loyalty to the real creation behind Queen Freddie, as others on here are up themselves supporting lambo the screacher! Queen have been torturing us ardent fans with lambo for at least 2 years now so what i am thinking here is they are secretly using him as the new lead singer as this will also take them into the studio in the autumn when the tour finishes.... Great to read such a sensible approach on here after 8 pages of bullying by the mafia, "vocal harmony", "real wizard", and clever clogs "Brenski" who by the way is not clever he is just eating an extra shredded wheat for breakfast!. |
| Vocal harmony 17.03.2014 10:31 |
Gerry, you've done it again. Bullying and having a difference of opinion are two very different things. And it could be argued that it's you who are the bully, because you are the person who is saying that the people who don't agree with and follow your views are wrong, mad, idiots, not real fans etc etc the list goes on. Also please don't miss quote what I have clearly said in order to give you a platform to argue back and belittle me from. What I was was. There is more atmosphere and excitement being at a concert rather than sitting at home watching a DVD. Can't you read and understand a simple comment or sentence, or did you understand it fully but ignore it's real contents and the point it made in order for you to twist it and try to make me look, as you put it, mad? Maybe I should ask the same question of you Gerry, are you mad? In an earlier post you told me to go and look at the classic rock site. . . Well here's one for you. Go and look at the interviews posted yesterday, the 16th, on BM's site with genuine fans outside The Hammersmith in 2012. It gives you a clear view of the opposite side to this subject of yours, or are all these fans disrespecting Freddie, and indirectly bullying you for not agreeing with you. |
| gerry 17.03.2014 11:39 |
vocal harmony: what gets me about you and your pals on here is that you do not meet me half way with what i am saying. "smokey quartz" is the only person on here who understands what i meant in my posts and i thank him for that. sure Brian has got fans i am one myself so what are you trying to say here? I am not disputing seeing Bri and Rog is wrong, but you know by now what i think of AD so i am not going there ok. I would have been happy if it were the lovely Kerry Ellis & Queen on tour, as she is a talented lady, but not Mr screach whos voice is not a patch on Freddies beautiful voice, you understand me so far yeah? By the way Brian was on the radio news last week, saying he wished more Queen fans would buy tickets as the Lambert fans were buying them all, so what does that tell you eh?? i rest my case! |
| Vocal harmony 17.03.2014 14:13 |
Gerry, when have Queen ever done anything that "the fans" or the rest of the world expected? I think they are doing what they've always done. SmokyQuartz, great post. I think you've covered what a lot of us were trying to say. Gerry read back over all the threads and posts where Queen playing with AL is discussed. I think you"ll find that most of us have said all along that Freddie can't really be replaced. But most of us are willing to let BM and RT make what ever choices they want. You seem happy for Kerry Ellus to stand in Freddies shoes. . . . What? a west end actress/singer fronting a rock band. That is your choice, but that is as likely to get as much heat as the bands choice of Adam Lambert! |
| gerry 17.03.2014 15:18 |
Vocal Harmony: yes its all about choice, the reason i said Kerry Ellis is because she has much more experience of an audience and is much more polished and accomplished than Adam Lambert who is really just eye candy for the fans than anything else, cant really say he has an outstanding voice at all. kerry is professional and did not come from a crappy reality programe like Adam. He would be good in the west end in "we will rock you" but i would not rate him to stand on a stage with two rock gods, but as you stated its Brian and Rogers choice and Freddie is not here to add guidance if he had left Queen. May and Taylor have made huge mistakes before Queen and its only when Freddie came on the scene that he told them where they were going wrong, just like they are now Mmmmmmmm! History repeating itself me thinks. |
| The Real Wizard 17.03.2014 17:35 |
gerry wrote: May and Taylor have made huge mistakes before Queen and its only when Freddie came on the scene that he told them where they were going wrong, just like they are now Mmmmmmmm! History repeating itself me thinks.Smile were one of the biggest bands on the UK club scene in the late 60s. They opened for Hendrix numerous times. In fact, Brian was often the guy who booked him. The name "Smile" was so associated with the club scene that Queen used the Smile name to book gigs well into 1971, because nobody knew who Queen were. But of course, if you'd like to write revisionist history, that's fine too... |
| gerry 18.03.2014 05:17 |
Vocal Harmony: Just looking back at your past posts slagging me off again for the spelling mistakes, well i must just say my keys on my laptop do not always press down right so of course the odd letter is going to be missing, but you are so petty to pick faults out just because you can not find a reasonable answer to my past posts. i assure you buddy i am not simple or mental or anything like that so do not look down your nose at me because you are not better than any of us on here. You have demonstrated that you also hurl abuse and slag me off on here. Not sure how old you are but you need to be a bit more broadminded and understanding. A bit more compassion and read what i write, and think about the other side of the coin. |
| Vocal harmony 18.03.2014 07:26 |
It would seem to me that writing a word, in this case you, and adding an s on the end of it to spell the word yous has nothing to do with sticking keys! Back to your second pet subject, slagging off. When I have chosen to "slag you off" it has always been in response to you having done just that. I need to be more broadminded. . . And think about the other side of the coin. Exactly what you haven't been, and haven't done. For the most part. You seem unable to except that life has to go on with out Freddie, that BM and RT have a right to do what they are doing with whom ever they want to be involved with. That fans of both Queen and AL are free to support this or not. That Queen were not created single handed by one person. That "the legacy" is being destroyed!!!! That anyone who buys a ticket for these shows isn't a genuine fan. The list is almost endless. How you can tell any of us to be more broadminded when you are so single minded that you can't see a future past the last word, and note that Freddie recorded. |
| gerry 18.03.2014 08:01 |
vocal harmony: I do see both sides of the coin before i type a single word! It looks to me that you like saying the opposite to what i say on here and that is fine i am not knocking that. I have said before so listen because i am not repeating myself like a parrot that yes Brian and Roger can do what they want when they want and everybody will not be over the moon especially the ardent Queen fans like myself. Your right i do not see anything worth while past the last note Freddie ever recorded, so that is why Queen fans are eagerly waiting for the new Queen album with new material from Freddie, and i bet you buy that too. Lambert will be a flash in the pan when the new Freddie material gets released. So there you have it, its pointless you been cocky because it does not work. Cant believe we have got to nearly 9 pages just because you want to be top dog on here, pathetic. |
| Vocal harmony 18.03.2014 08:25 |
Being ( not been ) top dog has nothing to do with what I post on here. I have no wish to be "top dog". Why does this have to be a contest. If you want to look at it that way then fine. There are people on here with far more knowledge then I have, and you too, about the subject of Queen. The great thing about QZ is that you can learn from other people. If your willing to learn or at least read and try to understand what is being said then there is no way it is about being top top dog. Woof woof |
| gerry 18.03.2014 08:37 |
VOCAL HARMONY: BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH I COULD GO ON BUT WHATS THE POINT?????????????????????? GOODBYE NOT WASTING MY PRECIOUS TIME ON YOU ANYMORE - GET A LIFE LOOSER. |
| Vocal harmony 18.03.2014 08:43 |
Does that mean you won't be buying a ticket if they tour the uk?????????????????? |
| gerry 18.03.2014 08:46 |
Vocal H, Id rather give my money to the Mercury Phoenix Trust! |
| Vocal harmony 18.03.2014 08:54 |
Some of us already have. But when they announce UK dates you can do just that, I know that the ticket price for block A in the Metro Arena will be very gladly received by the charity! |
| gerry 18.03.2014 09:14 |
I do not think there will be uk dates, so stop trying to wind me up because it dont work shit stirrer ! you a wind up merchant i can see that - game over! |
| The Real Wizard 18.03.2014 12:50 |
Vocal harmony wrote: Woof woofI therefore propose we rename you, good sir, to "Top Dog." Kinda has a nice ring to it. |
| brENsKi 18.03.2014 16:52 |
The Real Wizard wrote:you're barking up the wrong tree there...his new-hound status will go to his head.Vocal harmony wrote: Woof woofI therefore propose we rename you, good sir, to "Top Dog." Kinda has a nice ring to it. |
| Vocal harmony 19.03.2014 07:31 |
brENsKi wrote:Woof woof!The Real Wizard wrote:Mr Wizard, sir. I fine suggestion which I wholeheartedly thank you for. I am now podering the pros and cons of such a name which I do feel others are more worthy of. you're barking up the wrong tree there...his new-hound status will go to his head.Vocal harmony wrote: Woof woofI therefore propose we rename you, good sir, to "Top Dog." Kinda has a nice ring to it. |
| Vocal harmony 19.03.2014 07:35 |
gerry wrote: I do not think there will be uk dates, so stop trying to wind me up because it dont work shit stirrer ! you a wind up merchant i can see that - game over!No I wasn't winding you up. I was giving you a straight forward answer to a comment you made. |
| The Real Wizard 19.03.2014 13:06 |
No other male singer in the world can do this with such accuracy and feeling. If he's out there, he hasn't left his mother's basement. Lambert may have his flaws, but not here. This is as close to perfect as it gets: link |
| Vocal harmony 19.03.2014 13:38 |
The Real Wizard wrote: No other male singer in the world can do this with such accuracy and feeling. If he's out there, he hasn't left his mother's basement. Lambert may have his flaws, but not here. This is as close to perfect as it gets: linkNot only is it brilliantly sung, but he is mature enough to give it some personal identity, which is exactly why he's touring with BM and RT |
| FreddieCat 20.03.2014 00:02 |
I've got a really good feeling about this tour. Dr. Brian was able to pop out of his virus funk quickly to perform in Moscow. Means he is able to take care of himself on tour. With 19 shows he will need to conserve his energy between shows. He can do it and he will do it. |