| ITWEMBLEY86 31.03.2013 04:28 |
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| ITWEMBLEY86 31.03.2013 04:38 |
Katherina Schuttler As Mary Austin in Freddie Mercury Biopic link |
| ITWEMBLEY86 31.03.2013 04:56 |
& dont forget snow means NO to sacha Baron Cohen |
| ITWEMBLEY86 31.03.2013 05:14 |
FREDDIE MERCURY BIOPIC -THE MIRACLE LINK youtube.com/watch?v=paycLGq35Qo |
| TenementFunster91 01.04.2013 03:23 |
How do you think their relationship should be depicted considering artistic license has to be used to fill the gaps? I started reading Jim Hutton's book (the italian translation from link and he was recalling that at the Kensington Roof Gardens party after Wembley, Freddie took Mary by his side to avoid inquiries by the press and when three people claimed his, Mary's and Peter Freestone's seats at the Maine Road concert in Manchester, she argued that she was Freddie's girlfriend. I had the impression he was more open by that time. |
| Queen fan 01.04.2013 11:29 |
She should be treated with the same high respect Freddie held her in. |
| Queen fan 01.04.2013 11:34 |
TenementFunster91 wrote: How do you think their relationship should be depicted considering artistic license has to be used to fill the gaps? I started reading Jim Hutton's book (the italian translation from link and he was recalling that at the Kensington Roof Gardens party after Wembley, Freddie took Mary by his side to avoid inquiries by the press and when three people claimed his, Mary's and Peter Freestone's seats at the Maine Road concert in Manchester, she argued that she was Freddie's girlfriend. I had the impression he was more open by that time.I like the picture of Mary,Jim and Freddie smiling together. |
| Queen fan 01.04.2013 11:38 |
ITWEMBLEY86 wrote:This picture is of Katherina Schuttler. |
| Queen fan 01.04.2013 11:43 |
TenementFunster91 wrote: How do you think their relationship should be depicted considering artistic license has to be used to fill the gaps? I started reading Jim Hutton's book (the italian translation from link and he was recalling that at the Kensington Roof Gardens party after Wembley, Freddie took Mary by his side to avoid inquiries by the press and when three people claimed his, Mary's and Peter Freestone's seats at the Maine Road concert in Manchester, she argued that she was Freddie's girlfriend. I had the impression he was more open by that time.The Freddie Mercury Biopic BELLE DEL LA D'ORME REVE link And can you please translate it all into english. No,This in the one |
| TenementFunster91 01.04.2013 13:52 |
What are you referring to? |
| Queen fan 02.04.2013 03:58 |
TenementFunster91 wrote: What are you referring to? |
| Queen fan 02.04.2013 04:03 |
TenementFunster91 wrote: What are you referring to? |
| Queen fan 02.04.2013 04:03 |
TenementFunster91 wrote: What are you referring to? |
| Queen fan 02.04.2013 04:07 |
TenementFunster91 wrote: What are you referring to?A translation of the words in the video above into English. Where can I start? There is so much wrong I perceive accurately, with the attitude and angle those making this biopic are coming from. Freddie Mercury was a character,he was not a real person, he was a character like bowie's characters. And in the same way bowie extended his various creations beyond the stage shows, and into the interviews and real life public appearances, Faroohk did with Mercury. The serious place bowie has in the history of English music goes beyond his music into all aspects of visual arts, most notably for the characters he created and their myth and visual look . These character personalities and the atmosphere they evoked in people's imaginations was created, it was fiction and Freddie did just the same thing , but he took it a step further in that publicly he became Freddie Mercury totally in all public recognition and imagination. But Freddie Mercury was a creation , a character, in just the same way ziggy stardust was. The creator of the mythical messenger of rock, Faroohk Bulsara ,his creator, should get the just same amount of admiration and respect and acknowledgement for creating him , as Bowie gets for his creations. This act was so well done,it truly escapes people's attention ,fully , even today, and I think it seems to have escaped the care of Brian and Roger , who want to carry on with the game of pretending the great pretender was in fact Freddie Mercury and not the genius artist and musician who created him. This exploration of the real creator of Freddie Mercury is the most fascinating thing to explore, yet is the most risky thing to admit for Queen, who seem to be stuck in the idea that their is no separation between art and the artist, no difference between the fantasy and the reality, no real life in the meaning of the word biographical account. Bowie rightly gets treated with great seriousness as a true artist full of creativity and one can only know the kind of serious gritty and atmospheric movie that will be made about his peak of artistic creativity in the upcoming biopic of his life story, yet Freddie is deemed worthy only of an inarticulate cartoon stereotype , based upon his 1980's artistically low image, which is in retrospect not his creative peak as a whole artist, but still a period where his vocal and stage skills shone. This is not good enough , for if queen want the true acclaim as artists as a whole ,in English rock legacy and want serious right of place in rock's history in the heights they truly deserve, instead of being the meagre once giants with mentions and associations amongst the baser low culture popularity contests culture of the likes of the here the today gone tomorrow x factor pop idol associations they keep company with today, just for sake of present day relevance. If there their legacy is not to continue to be amongst, and I warn will be amongst continually if they dont address these things, they will be amongst the rest of the 70's glam rock brigade , who although much loved, now and again, are culturally pretty much seen as a fashionable irrelevance in a time warp of the lesser 70's groups to the British rock pantheon, and who's only credibility was jumping on a glitter bandwagon on the back of David bowie and making some popular music in the 80's. I believe Queen is far more important than their present appraisal , yes more than is given. It is imperative, Freddie deserves to be seen as the equal to bowie, but never will be studied with the same seriousness if his real story is never told . If he is left to a cartoon character called Borat, who is very akin to the here today then gone, culturally speaking low cultured low art portrayal of this fashionable momentary name,who in the end can only hope to try to visually ape a fictional character called Freddie Mercury that was created by an artistic Genius both musically and visually, then Queen deserve as much. This emphasis I am trying to shift them into, this careful thought in respect of their real significance ,takes into full account the actual existence of the creator of Freddie Mercury as a real man, as an artist who ends up being seen by history as not merely a victim of his own stardom. A stardom which went beyond his great pretending into the prison of the publics perception of who he was as merely a very great performer enabling the same public who will now see and view him according to his true creative talents as one of the greatest artists of British rock. And in full context, rather than in the limited light he is now portrayed, which is by his star persona , presented by his visual inventions and music, the creator still hidden , and the fact that he did create it all, still hidden. If the artist is never seen as the creator he can never take credit for his creation fully. That is fine for the art itself , as it speaks for itself and is appreciated for itself, yet for full acclaim and for biography to do its job, for history to give full credit to the artist, it has to be shown and made clear that the art was created from out of nothing by the brilliance of the man. It is important to not just show the art itself which we have already seen. (Equally important is to not show a bad fake recreation of the art, and so destroy the mask known as Freddie Mercury that was so perfectly fashioned by the artist behind it. Which is another very important point I have made, which has to do with the very important need for acting ability and excellence.- if you do this wrong you do not give full due to the artist , as i am trying to explain , and then to top it all, you even go and destroy the masks the artist created ? !!) Disastrous!!! These things are not that complicated to understand and the public is not dumb, they will appreciate giving Freddie his full due as the artist he was , Having it made clear to them for once to that he created what they admire, and that he was not just a caricature of the stage persona character he invented so brilliantly , but had a real personality as a human being , the emphasis being on not fake but real , and he invented what the public perceived as his true self to be, but he in truth was in fact a man with an incredible artistic Creative talent, that designed the image of himself as part of his act and so was a genius who created the character that became the star he became known for, by them as a real actual Mythical Legend. And before anyway says, ha ,you didn't know Freddie, he was a vivacious person full of humour and was Mercury , you totally miss the point yet again, for isn't bowie the same ,as a real man? Yet he gets credit for his creations as separate from himself, yet does Freddie? No, he doesn't , and that is exactly my point, because as Bowie said of him, "He took it further than us all", So much so , people can't see it! A biographical portrayal has to separate the artist from the art if we are to see the real man, to reveal the artist behind the art, such a thing is obvious is it not? His creative mind and his place in English rock art by view of his creating his own irrefutable character MUST NOT go unseen, unacknowledged or dismissed. Like Bowie, he was an visual entertainer who invented himself, and this aspect of Faroohk's creative mind, Is an equally important achievement and facet , of his contributions to british rock stage art . His influence and contribution in this arena of the "execution of the invention of self " - "you can be anything you want to be-" is truly amazing , as it is this aspect that is invisible , so much so , that it is not even noticed! It is just as important as his amazing musical and vocal skill, because it is like what bowie did when by creating his own self |
| Queen fan 02.04.2013 06:36 |
And for those who still refuse the truth of this; Freddie himself ,again and again,made it very clear that he was not the same person in the real life. I will cover all bases so they cannot trick us, I am not talking about. Gutter press portrait of the private mans life as a way to show some expansive portrayal beyond Borat trying to be him onstage which he will never hope to be in any case for that would take actual acting talent. i am talking about some depth to the material showing his full creative talents which included his invention of Mr Mercury himself, and some contrast between his creation and the real man I expect to see portrayed as the real man. and for those who are still confused, Freddie himself made It clear he was not the same person in the real life. The outrageous aggressive character on stage that is , he was not that, he was polite quiet and unassuming very sensitive and shy at his core. so now you know that how on earth can you expect anything less? we cannot is the answer and We won't. you see I always knew that you would need an actor to act anything, that is why I picked them. MY one regret being Brian May, who. Will have to be portrayed by a comedian, but for the sake of realism choosing a comedian to play a member of Queen where BRian May is concerned due to his very particular look ,height etc, is not too much of compromise, the situation as itis, in fact it is far more reasonable than the unreality of a six foot comedian who cannot act playing Freddie a decision that will soon be rectified. |
| TenementFunster91 02.04.2013 10:29 |
Makes no sense, sure you didn't have a different upload in mind? |
| Queen fan 04.04.2013 09:48 |
This is the one. link link |
| Queen fan 04.04.2013 11:02 |
TenementFunster91 wrote: Makes no sense, sure you didn't have a different upload in mind?You were born the same year as Jeremy Kapone. |
| TenementFunster91 06.04.2013 16:03 |
No, I really don't get whatever esoteric interpretation you attribute to it, which song was edited? |
| Queen fan 07.04.2013 06:19 |
TenementFunster91 wrote: No, I really don't get whatever esoteric interpretation you attribute to it, which song was edited? belle de la dorme reve I spelt it wrong it's french It means beautiful dream of sleep http://translate.google.com/m/translate the song is there must be more to life that this De Cara Dom Is Latin. it means of Of The Lord Belle a del orme Is ltalian it means beautiful in the footsteps |
| Queen fan 07.04.2013 07:18 |
There is also a reference to the elm Tree As well as dorme as in sleep their is definitely a. D'orme Which means ELM As in the tree belle de la d'orme reve Means beautiful dream of the elm IN FRENCH link The ELM , It is synonymous with FRANCE as of course is JEREMY KAPONE who is mentioned by name as our our lad in BRETON Smooth Leaved ELM One of the most common forest trees in France, you'll see this species growing in most places. It suffers from Dutch Elm Disease, as many elms do. It's often confused with European Hornbeam. You can tell the two species apart by the color of the bark, which is more coarse, as well as by the leaves and by the seeds. The leaves are double serrated along the edges and asymmetrical at the base, which means the two halves of the leaves are not identical in shape. The seed are small flat oval like seeds that appear in the later summer. Places in Paris to view this tree: this tree is best seen in the large forests to the east and west of Paris: Boulogne and Vincennes. St-Germain-en-Laye forest. link |
| Queen fan 07.04.2013 07:30 |
It is fitting that I was inspired to use this video of keen signing somewhere only we know For Freddie and Mary As the tree is mentioned Whom I pictured as Jeremy Kapone at the time And showed him lay down on stage link |
| jpf 08.04.2013 21:08 |
TenementFunster91 wrote: How do you think their relationship should be depicted considering artistic license has to be used to fill the gaps? I started reading Jim Hutton's book (the italian translation from link and he was recalling that at the Kensington Roof Gardens party after Wembley, Freddie took Mary by his side to avoid inquiries by the press and when three people claimed his, Mary's and Peter Freestone's seats at the Maine Road concert in Manchester, she argued that she was Freddie's girlfriend. I had the impression he was more open by that time.Mary was a beard. Freddie treated her that way and Mary went along with it. |
| Queen fan 08.04.2013 21:29 |
jpf wrote:TenementFunster91 wrote: How do you think their relationship should be depicted considering artistic license has to be used to fill the gaps? I started reading Jim Hutton's book (the italian translation from -jim-hutton---i-miei-anni-con-freddie-mercury-[tntvillage]www.queentorrent.com/?n=10178&t=[ebook]-jim-hutton---i-miei-anni-con-freddie-mercury-[tntvillage]) and he was recalling that at the Kensington Roof Gardens party after Wembley, Freddie took Mary by his side to avoid inquiries by the press and when three people claimed his, Mary's and Peter Freestone's seats at the Maine Road concert in Manchester, she argued that she was Freddie's girlfriend. I had the impression he was more open by that time.Mary was a beard. Freddie treated her that way and Mary went along with it. Really? I thought she was a lover of his for six years. |
| jpf 10.04.2013 01:45 |
Queen fan wrote:And he cheated on her with other men.jpf wrote:Really? I thought she was a lover of his for six years.TenementFunster91 wrote: How do you think their relationship should be depicted considering artistic license has to be used to fill the gaps? I started reading Jim Hutton's book (the italian translation from -jim-hutton---i-miei-anni-con-freddie-mercury-[tntvillage]www.queentorrent.com/?n=10178&t=[ebook]-jim-hutton---i-miei-anni-con-freddie-mercury-[tntvillage]) and he was recalling that at the Kensington Roof Gardens party after Wembley, Freddie took Mary by his side to avoid inquiries by the press and when three people claimed his, Mary's and Peter Freestone's seats at the Maine Road concert in Manchester, she argued that she was Freddie's girlfriend. I had the impression he was more open by that time.Mary was a beard. Freddie treated her that way and Mary went along with it. Freddie had the choice to never see Mary again after they split. If that had happened Mary could have easily let it be known about Freddie's sexuality. By keeping Mary in his circle of friends his secret was kept secret. It was shitty of Freddie to continue having Mary be his beard when Jim Hutton was standing right beside the two of them. |
| Holly2003 10.04.2013 01:56 |
Oh well, at least she has a big expensive mansion to live in -- unlike Ace Frehley. |