| QueenForever2012 30.12.2012 13:21 |
Hi,do you know if Roger is going to be re-releasing and remastering all of his solo work, including his stuff with The Cross Cheers |
| GT 01.01.2013 00:16 |
His solo stuff will be released as a compilation and probable box set at some time this year. I don't think The Cross stuff will be included at this point, maybe on another collection. A new studio album will also follow. Regards. |
| Holly2003 01.01.2013 05:28 |
Do we know why Roger didn't release his solo album as originally planned in 2012? |
| QueenForever2012 01.01.2013 06:27 |
Thanks for the info, much appreciated |
| splicksplack 01.01.2013 10:05 |
Interesting, so just to clarify. GT is saying that at "some time this year" RT's solo stuff will be released as a compilation - do you mean like a Best Of? And also a probable box set of his 4 solo albums. And then "a new studio album will follow"? So that means the new album we were originally expecting in November 2012 is now delayed until AFTER his old stuff has been re-released? |
| brENsKi 01.01.2013 11:14 |
yes, but that "could" still be soon the entire zep catalogue was remastered by Page in relatively short time so FOUR albums might not take long at all |
| Negative Creep 01.01.2013 13:46 |
Gotta laugh at this shit. So we'll get a compilation of Roger Taylor solo songs that any fan already has, which then might be followed up by some kind of boxset then new material? I'm going to take a wild guess and say the compilation sells fuck all. What is it with anyone connected to QPL having no clue whatsoever as regards to what to release? There's only 4 fucking studio albums - re-release them with or without bonus tracks (clue, only existing RT solo fans will even be interested, so re-releasing without bonus tracks will result in major flop)... no ones wants a fucking compilation! It would also be logiical to release the new solo album first along with a tour before re-releasing old material - but this doesn't seems to concern QPL etc. |
| Negative Creep 01.01.2013 13:49 |
We'd better hope they don't release a Live At The Rainbow DVD in 2013, that could mean we'll miss out on a Roger Taylor compilation CD! Oh my fucking god! |
| Hangman_96 01.01.2013 14:54 |
Negative Creep wrote: We'd better hope they don't release a Live At The Rainbow DVD in 2013, that could mean we'll miss out on a Roger Taylor compilation CD! Oh my fucking god!Who gives a damn? We all want Rainbow. |
| tero! 48531 01.01.2013 15:05 |
Lostman wrote:Yes, which is exactly why the Roger albums are getting an earlier release... And once his greatest hits bombs, QP have a new excuse not to release the Rainbow Show.Negative Creep wrote: We'd better hope they don't release a Live At The Rainbow DVD in 2013, that could mean we'll miss out on a Roger Taylor compilation CD! Oh my fucking god!Who gives a damn? We all want Rainbow. After all, it's only the hardcore fans who are interested in these niche products, while another re-release of Wembley is a guaranteed seller. |
| soxtalon 01.01.2013 15:46 |
Thanks for the information GT! A Roger box set could be awesome...I assume it will collect the four solo discs so far...maybe a 5th disc for bonus/live tracks? Even if it was just the B-Sides/single mixes it would be cool...hopefully an actual outtake or two. But hopefully it won't push back the solo album too much. I doubt this will have anything to do with the Rainbow's dates or what not...I bet Rainbow goes first anyways and then a month - six weeks later a Roger product would be most welcome! |
| rocknrolllover 02.01.2013 00:56 |
I do not very ike solo work by Roger Taylor. I'd better hope he don't release his solo works in 2013 that could mean we'll miss out Queen Live At The Rainbow DVD. Oh Holy Grail |
| inu-liger 02.01.2013 01:16 |
rocknrolllover wrote: I do not very ike solo work by Roger Taylor. I'd better hope he don't release his solo works in 2013 that could mean we'll miss out Queen Live At The Rainbow DVD. Oh Holy GrailOH WILL YOU PLEASE QUIT IT ALREADY WITH THE RAINBOW CRAP? PLEASE. YOU PERSISTENTLY MENTIONING IT IS NOT GOING TO GET IT RELEASED ANY FASTER! |
| rocknrolllover 02.01.2013 01:30 |
inu-liger wrote:rocknrolllover wrote: I do not very ike solo work by Roger Taylor. I'd better hope he don't release his solo works in 2013 that could mean we'll miss out Queen Live At The Rainbow DVD. Oh Holy GrailOH WILL YOU PLEASE QUIT IT ALREADY WITH THE RAINBOW CRAP? PLEASE. YOU PERSISTENTLY MENTIONING IT IS NOT GOING TO GET IT RELEASED ANY FASTER! you can do everything with my posts and my threads, everything but don't make me boring |
| tero! 48531 02.01.2013 01:40 |
rocknrolllover wrote:Of course not. That's something you're doing all by yourself.inu-liger wrote:you can do everything with my posts and my threads, everything but don't make me boringrocknrolllover wrote: I do not very ike solo work by Roger Taylor. I'd better hope he don't release his solo works in 2013 that could mean we'll miss out Queen Live At The Rainbow DVD. Oh Holy GrailOH WILL YOU PLEASE QUIT IT ALREADY WITH THE RAINBOW CRAP? PLEASE. YOU PERSISTENTLY MENTIONING IT IS NOT GOING TO GET IT RELEASED ANY FASTER! |
| The Real Wizard 02.01.2013 14:08 |
inu-liger wrote: YOU PERSISTENTLY MENTIONING IT IS NOT GOING TO GET IT RELEASED ANY FASTER!Of course it will. Haven't you seen all the results? He has. |
| inu-liger 03.01.2013 05:12 |
:-P |
| brians wig 03.01.2013 09:19 |
Since this thread has gone to the dogs, I may as well take it further by saying (quite reasonably), that I hope they re-release Wembley 86 on BLURAY. Not only do I hope they will keep it in PAL instead of fucking up the picture and colours by making it NTSC like the DVD, but they could also take full advantage of the additional space and present FULL versions of the 'band-cams' that are on the original DVD release. I'd LOVE to watch the behind angle of Roger drumming for the whole concert.... Actually, as far as Rainbow is concerned, I'm disappointed (yet not surprised) at the fact they're doing an edit of both nights. I'd much rather they released a 2 disc set with both nights in full like they did Wembley. I fully understand that there was a technical issue on one of the nights that QPL won't want the public to see, but since the band started "Liar" from the beginning once those issues had been resolved, I see no reason why a seamless edit can't be made once they've excised that material. |
| GinjaNinja 03.01.2013 10:14 |
^ This. It would be a crying shame if Rainbow was released in NTSC format, it would ruin one of the best looking examples of 2" videotape I've ever seen. Unfortunately, I seem to recall there being a slight picture fault with the footage from the first night (all the "blacks" of the image appeared dark red). I don't know whether that has any part in the decision to compile both nights. You can see in the Rainbow footage of Stone Cold Crazy as one of the DOOL documentary bonus features that the footage from the first night is used very sparingly (distinguishable by the large "QUEEN" sign at the back of the stage and the picture quality jump). |
| Pingfah 03.01.2013 10:28 |
Yes, which is exactly why the Roger albums are getting an earlier release... And once his greatest hits bombs, QP have a new excuse not to release the Rainbow Show.I can't imagine anybody is expecting a box set or compilation of stuff off albums that were not big hits in the first place to be a hit now. |
| The Real Wizard 03.01.2013 10:35 |
brians wig wrote: Actually, as far as Rainbow is concerned, I'm disappointed (yet not surprised) at the fact they're doing an edit of both nights. I'd much rather they released a 2 disc set with both nights in full like they did Wembley.Of course I'd like to see both uncut nights too. But if Mercury's voice wasn't in great shape on the first night, I'd be happy with a nice 2-show edit to create a single good show. They can't have the public thinking Queen sucked live. A DVD could easily make or break that reputation. Disc 2 of the Led Zeppelin DVD is largely revisionist history. Most of the Earls Court and Knebworth material is about as useful as a nun's tits, but Zeppelin sound amazing after Page had his way with the footage - and even the most hardcore fans are still in awe nearly 10 years after the release. The work on Queen's Rainbow footage won't be nearly as substantial. As seen on the DOOL documentary, Liar on the second night was interrupted twice. There's no way that could be a definitive version of Liar on a DVD. That's the kind of thing that would be a cool extra on disc 2. The version from the first night is rock solid, so they'll just use that. |
| rocknrolllover 03.01.2013 12:12 |
The Real Wizard wrote:I like what you've written here, but I don't quite understand what you meant here: "The work on Queen's Rainbow footage won't be nearly as substantial".brians wig wrote: Actually, as far as Rainbow is concerned, I'm disappointed (yet not surprised) at the fact they're doing an edit of both nights. I'd much rather they released a 2 disc set with both nights in full like they did Wembley.Of course I'd like to see both uncut nights too. But if Mercury's voice wasn't in great shape on the first night, I'd be happy with a nice 2-show edit to create a single good show. They can't have the public thinking Queen sucked live. A DVD could easily make or break that reputation. Disc 2 of the Led Zeppelin DVD is largely revisionist history. Most of the Earls Court and Knebworth material is about as useful as a nun's tits, but Zeppelin sound amazing after Page had his way with the footage - and even the most hardcore fans are still in awe nearly 10 years after the release. The work on Queen's Rainbow footage won't be nearly as substantial. As seen on the DOOL documentary, Liar on the second night was interrupted twice. There's no way that could be a definitive version of Liar on a DVD. That's the kind of thing that would be a cool extra on disc 2. The version from the first night is rock solid, so they'll just use that. |
| tomchristie22 14.01.2013 05:17 |
rocknrolllover wrote:Well it's pretty complicated, I can see why you didn't understand. What he was saying was that the editing work they do on Queen's Rainbow footage won't be nearly as substantial as the work they did to make the aforementioned Led Zeppelin concerts presentable. But since it was structured in such a logical way that any normal person could understand it, I can see why it was hard for you to follow.The Real Wizard wrote:I like what you've written here, but I don't quite understand what you meant here: "The work on Queen's Rainbow footage won't be nearly as substantial".brians wig wrote: Actually, as far as Rainbow is concerned, I'm disappointed (yet not surprised) at the fact they're doing an edit of both nights. I'd much rather they released a 2 disc set with both nights in full like they did Wembley.Of course I'd like to see both uncut nights too. But if Mercury's voice wasn't in great shape on the first night, I'd be happy with a nice 2-show edit to create a single good show. They can't have the public thinking Queen sucked live. A DVD could easily make or break that reputation. Disc 2 of the Led Zeppelin DVD is largely revisionist history. Most of the Earls Court and Knebworth material is about as useful as a nun's tits, but Zeppelin sound amazing after Page had his way with the footage - and even the most hardcore fans are still in awe nearly 10 years after the release. The work on Queen's Rainbow footage won't be nearly as substantial. As seen on the DOOL documentary, Liar on the second night was interrupted twice. There's no way that could be a definitive version of Liar on a DVD. That's the kind of thing that would be a cool extra on disc 2. The version from the first night is rock solid, so they'll just use that. |
| The Real Wizard 14.01.2013 20:17 |
rocknrolllover wrote:...meaning there won't be as much editing to do. They only have two nights to work from to create a 20 song final product, whereas Page had at least three nights at Earls Court 75 to create 6 songs.The Real Wizard wrote:I like what you've written here, but I don't quite understand what you meant here: "The work on Queen's Rainbow footage won't be nearly as substantial".brians wig wrote: Actually, as far as Rainbow is concerned, I'm disappointed (yet not surprised) at the fact they're doing an edit of both nights. I'd much rather they released a 2 disc set with both nights in full like they did Wembley.Of course I'd like to see both uncut nights too. But if Mercury's voice wasn't in great shape on the first night, I'd be happy with a nice 2-show edit to create a single good show. They can't have the public thinking Queen sucked live. A DVD could easily make or break that reputation. Disc 2 of the Led Zeppelin DVD is largely revisionist history. Most of the Earls Court and Knebworth material is about as useful as a nun's tits, but Zeppelin sound amazing after Page had his way with the footage - and even the most hardcore fans are still in awe nearly 10 years after the release. The work on Queen's Rainbow footage won't be nearly as substantial. As seen on the DOOL documentary, Liar on the second night was interrupted twice. There's no way that could be a definitive version of Liar on a DVD. That's the kind of thing that would be a cool extra on disc 2. The version from the first night is rock solid, so they'll just use that. |
| rocknrolllover 14.01.2013 22:58 |
The Real Wizard wrote:...meaning there won't be as much editing to do. They only have two nights to work from to create a 20 song final product, whereas Page had at least three nights at Earls Court 75 to create 6 songs. Thanks for answer, Bobrocknrolllover wrote:The Real Wizard wrote:I like what you've written here, but I don't quite understand what you meant here: "The work on Queen's Rainbow footage won't be nearly as substantial".brians wig wrote: Actually, as far as Rainbow is concerned, I'm disappointed (yet not surprised) at the fact they're doing an edit of both nights. I'd much rather they released a 2 disc set with both nights in full like they did Wembley.Of course I'd like to see both uncut nights too. But if Mercury's voice wasn't in great shape on the first night, I'd be happy with a nice 2-show edit to create a single good show. They can't have the public thinking Queen sucked live. A DVD could easily make or break that reputation. Disc 2 of the Led Zeppelin DVD is largely revisionist history. Most of the Earls Court and Knebworth material is about as useful as a nun's tits, but Zeppelin sound amazing after Page had his way with the footage - and even the most hardcore fans are still in awe nearly 10 years after the release. The work on Queen's Rainbow footage won't be nearly as substantial. As seen on the DOOL documentary, Liar on the second night was interrupted twice. There's no way that could be a definitive version of Liar on a DVD. That's the kind of thing that would be a cool extra on disc 2. The version from the first night is rock solid, so they'll just use that. |
| MadTheDude 15.01.2013 13:24 |
I'm just waiting for Rogers new album, it has been quite a long wait.... |
| brENsKi 15.01.2013 13:35 |
yes, but it's unlikely til he finished touring "The Wall Live" |
| Michael Allred 16.01.2013 09:08 |
GT wrote: His solo stuff will be released as a compilation and probable box set at some time this year. I don't think The Cross stuff will be included at this point, maybe on another collection. A new studio album will also follow. Regards.I can understand a compilation/best of as a mainstream release for Joe Public, the box set being for the fans but what I DON'T understand is why in the world The Cross material would be excluded as it's clearly part of Roger's solo career. Waiting for some other collection to put it out on makes little sense from a sales point of view as the Cross stuff didn't do that well on it's own so it would need to be bunched in with Roger's other, more well known, material. Putting together a compilation from four solo albums would have a lot of filler, having seven to pick from (this would include three albums from The Cross) would up the quality of songs selected for it. Not to mention a videos collection for DVD, this would be the ideal time for remastering Cross material and finally giving the bulk of Roger's solo career a much needed spit shine and wider audience. |
| cmsdrums 17.01.2013 02:36 |
I think the exclusion of The Cross material has always been because of issues regarding copyright etc as it is on different record labels |
| Negative Creep 17.01.2013 06:03 |
First of all, there would be no problem licensing the tracks (the only possible issue would be financial, and the idea that a multi millionaire and Universal couldn't afford to license material that never sold in any quantity and would therefore be relatively cheap is laughable - small record companies license tracks all the time) - however, I'm pretty sure Roger owns the rights to most/all of his own recordings? Perhaps he just doesn't want to have to pay out any royalties to the other Cross co-writers? Excluding Cross material from a RT "solo" release is typical QPL bollocks. |
| Negative Creep 17.01.2013 06:09 |
Even if any of the labels involved did own any copyright, it's not like Roger isn't in the finiancial position to be able to buy back the rights to the sound recordings or licensing. I haven't got any CDs close to hand to check, but Roger def owns the copyright to the sound recordings of Happiness and Electric Fire - so would he really have handed over copyright to record companies for the Cross just a couple/few years earlier? |
| cmsdrums 17.01.2013 09:49 |
I agree that there must be ways around it, and am really disappointed, but just relaying the story that has been given by the official channels over the years whenever this has been asked. Although Roger most likely owns the copyright licencing, is there possibly some agreement whereby it was under a further exclusivity agreement with Virgin, EMI and Electrola? The fact that the band didn't have a worldwide or UK deal for BlackRock (and Mad Bad... was also on a German label deal), and Shove It was on a different label again, may causing some issues between the agreeing parties? I don't know (and like you guys am sure they could come to an agreement if they really wanted to), but this could go some way to explaining it. On a brighter note, there is talk (originating from Spike Edney) that The Cross may reunite for a shows/shows at Xmas 2013 - although they're aiming at a niche market of fans, perhaps that might give the little push needed to round up a The Cross compliation along with unreleased and rare tracks. |
| brENsKi 17.01.2013 16:05 |
he could do what leppard are doing (if he wrote all of the tracks) re-record them |
| Michael Allred 18.01.2013 13:08 |
brENsKi wrote: he could do what leppard are doing (if he wrote all of the tracks) re-record themre-recording would be a joke. original versions or nothing at all. |