QueenZone discussion #1328464
Hungarian Rhapsody (CD / Blu-Ray Set)
| AB-88 16.10.2012 18:25 |
Not sure if anyone's seen this yet... link Not liking that current price tag of £35.84! |
| bootLuca 16.10.2012 23:26 |
yes, and the new led zeppelin celebration day (2cd + blu ray), that it will be released the november 19th, costs £ 14 |
| pittrek 17.10.2012 01:01 |
What's the problem with the price ? |
| thomasquinn 32989 17.10.2012 03:13 |
Ehm, it's ridiculous? |
| . 17.10.2012 03:23 |
thomasquinn 32989 wrote: Ehm, it's ridiculous?Agreed |
| Bad Seed 17.10.2012 04:05 |
I'm sure this won't be the actual price. I'm concerned that no one else has it for pre order, amazon don't even have a release date. I bet it's been put back. |
| Bad Seed 17.10.2012 04:07 |
My apologies I see amazon do have the release date now. |
| cmsdrums 17.10.2012 04:39 |
Agreed - very pricey at the mo, and ridiculous that no one else has it listed for pre order yet. Presumably Eagle Rock or QPL haven't distributed them with the details yet. |
| Dane 17.10.2012 06:43 |
So much money for such an ugly product.. I'm having doubts. |
| Dane 17.10.2012 07:21 |
Everyone! Join the discussion here AMAZON.COM\HUNGARIANRHAPSODY |
| pittrek 17.10.2012 10:53 |
Asking 35 pounds for a 2CD + 1 BD release is too much ? Wow. Actually I think the price is OK, I'm used to buy single disc blu-ray releases for 15-20 Euros. 35-45 Euros is the standard price here for 2-3 disc releases. |
| pogor1 17.10.2012 11:09 |
The price is ok i think ,and this product itself should be fantastic,as it's one of Queen's '86 highlights. Just Hope it's not going to be great collection of overdubbs |
| Battler 17.10.2012 11:15 |
link DVD+2CD for $30 at most? This is very acceptable. We should be lucky Queen aren't Japanese - for Japanese artists, let me name an example: Morning Musume Rival Survival 2010 Live 2 DVD a whooping 50 EUR (42 EUR without Japanese tax). The single Blu-ray was AFAIK about 80-90 EUR. So DVD+2CD for $30 and BD+2CD for about twice that is much more acceptable. |
| cmsdrums 17.10.2012 12:16 |
I bought the Freddie 'Great Pretender' blu easy for £12.95 (on Amazon), and double CDs should really cost no more than about that too, so we should be looking at about £25 really. The Wembley 86 reissue with two whole concerts and a double DVD (albeit not blu ray) cost me less than £20 new when it came out!! |
| The Real Wizard 17.10.2012 13:20 |
Dear god ... the complete Budapest audio is being released for the first time. Can't we ever be happy here? It's a very fair price for a three disc package. |
| Marknow 17.10.2012 13:35 |
Price is fair, can't see the issue. Looking forward to getting this. |
| mooghead 17.10.2012 16:13 |
How can people say this is too expensive? Queen Productions would NEVER rip the fans off :/ |
| Bad Seed 17.10.2012 17:46 |
£35 is not a fair price, it is ridiculous. This is more like it: link |
| brians wig 17.10.2012 18:26 |
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| brians wig 17.10.2012 18:28 |
Aaaaaannnnddddd it's another blasted Digi-pack. Seriously, have these people never heard of PLASTIC DVD cases that hold multiple discs????? |
| thomasquinn 32989 18.10.2012 03:46 |
The Real Wizard wrote: Dear god ... the complete Budapest audio is being released for the first time. Can't we ever be happy here? It's a very fair price for a three disc package.I visit cd/dvd/blu-ray shops quite a lot, and I can tell you that I have *never* yet seen a three disc package for €43,- (= 35 pounds) here unless it comes with a huge book and a huge load of additional stuff. On the other hand, I have seen quite a number of 2cd + blu ray sets, and on the day of release, they are usually between 25 and 30 euros. |
| pittrek 18.10.2012 04:58 |
thomasquinn 32989 wrote:Be happy that you don't live in my country. The reason WHY I buy CDs/DVDs on UK e-shops is that even when they include the shipping costs etc. the final price is much LESS than in our shops :-)The Real Wizard wrote: Dear god ... the complete Budapest audio is being released for the first time. Can't we ever be happy here? It's a very fair price for a three disc package.I visit cd/dvd/blu-ray shops quite a lot, and I can tell you that I have *never* yet seen a three disc package for €43,- (= 35 pounds) here unless it comes with a huge book and a huge load of additional stuff. On the other hand, I have seen quite a number of 2cd + blu ray sets, and on the day of release, they are usually between 25 and 30 euros. |
| Hangman_96 18.10.2012 07:30 |
pogor1 wrote: Just Hope it's not going to be great collection of overdubbsFortunately or unfortunately, it's going to be... |
| Dane 18.10.2012 07:30 |
At GroovesInc it now sells for: €15,89 Standard DVD €20,59 Standard BluRay €21,39 DVD+CD €26,29 BluRay+CD Very reasonable. |
| The Real Wizard 18.10.2012 08:46 |
Bad Seed wrote: £35 is not a fair price, it is ridiculous. This is more like it: linkHa, then I stand corrected ! |
| The Real Wizard 18.10.2012 08:47 |
Lostman wrote:There are very few overdubs on the Budapest show. Less than I can count on one hand.pogor1 wrote: Just Hope it's not going to be great collection of overdubbsFortunately or unfortunately, it's going to be... |
| ANAGRAMER 18.10.2012 13:02 |
$35 one presumes is an error. Its also the dollar price (pre discount) Sterling bound to be less Also its listed as being released by Mercury records... |
| thomasquinn 32989 19.10.2012 03:43 |
The Real Wizard wrote:That was the original VHS. You never know, Brian might decide that some of his guitar playing isn't up to scratch, or that the piano part from Stockholm sounds better on this song or that...I wouldn't dare call it before the set is out.Lostman wrote:There are very few overdubs on the Budapest show. Less than I can count on one hand.pogor1 wrote: Just Hope it's not going to be great collection of overdubbsFortunately or unfortunately, it's going to be... |
| cmsdrums 19.10.2012 04:51 |
That was the original VHS. You never know, Brian might decide that some of his guitar playing isn't up to scratch, or that the piano part from Stockholm sounds better on this song or that...I wouldn't dare call it before the set is out.Excatly what I was about to say! |
| Bad Seed 19.10.2012 06:07 |
The only thing that I noticed at the cinema screening was they'd REMOVED Freddies overdub from Under Pressure. I was actually quite disappionted about that |
| AlexRocks 19.10.2012 10:13 |
I'm not buying this because the cover sucks donkey balls. |
| The Real Wizard 19.10.2012 22:50 |
thomasquinn 32989 wrote:I saw it in the theatre, and from memory I can tell you that Brian's guitar was identical to what I remember. I watched that video hundreds of times growing up.The Real Wizard wrote:That was the original VHS. You never know, Brian might decide that some of his guitar playing isn't up to scratch, or that the piano part from Stockholm sounds better on this song or that...I wouldn't dare call it before the set is out.Lostman wrote:There are very few overdubs on the Budapest show. Less than I can count on one hand.pogor1 wrote: Just Hope it's not going to be great collection of overdubbsFortunately or unfortunately, it's going to be... |
| OwenSmith 20.10.2012 11:22 |
The Real Wizard wrote: Dear god ... the complete Budapest audio is being released for the first time. Can't we ever be happy here? It's a very fair price for a three disc package.The only thing I'm unhappy about is the delivery wouldn't fit through my letter box and I can't collect it from the post office as they are shut until Monday. Otherwise I can't wait, like the man said complete Budapest audio. |
| TheGame 31.10.2012 14:36 |
Anyone knows or think there will be a japanese release with extra bonus stuff on it? Else hmw.com offer the deluxe packet for £18. Seems to be the best price/deal online. |
| The Real Wizard 31.10.2012 17:01 |
TheGame wrote: Anyone knows or think there will be a japanese release with extra bonus stuff on it? Else hmw.com offer the deluxe packet for £18. Seems to be the best price/deal online.Oh my - been ages since we've seen you here ! Hope you're doing well. |
| Bad Seed 01.11.2012 03:52 |
Does anyone know what's going on with the release date? Loads of stockists have put the date back and Amazon UK is apparently stating a 6-9 week delivery! I've ordered from hmv but they say they the product has not yet been supplied to them which I find odd this close to the release date. |
| cmsdrums 01.11.2012 04:08 |
Don't get confused on Amazon - the UK site bizarrely has the US version on import too and this may be the one that takes ages to arrive. |
| OwenSmith 06.11.2012 10:52 |
I now have my copy from amazon.co.uk. I'm not sure why a US release would be any different since the packaging rear cover clearly states the Blu Ray is for all zones. One disappointment is the 5.1 sound is described as "DTS-HD High Resolution Audio 96/24" ie. lossy compressed. Dear god why? The disc is a BD50, I can't believe there isn't space for a DTS-HD Master Audio lossless 5.1 track. Personally I'd rather have lossless 48/24 than lossy 96/24. The annoying thing is the stereo audio is LPCM 48/24 ie. completely uncompressed, thus wasting space. Lossless compressed stereo audio would have helped if there are space issues. It disappoints me that DVD-Audio and SACD both had lossless compression of stereo tracks but if Blu Ray has it then nothing seems to use it. I assume you can have a DTS-HD Master Audio stereo track? If the US copy has proper lossless 5.1 audio that would be a reason to get it instead of the UK one. |
| pittrek 06.11.2012 11:09 |
There is no such thing as a US version afaik, they are releasing one version only like they did for all their releases since the label change. Please don't touch the LPCM stereo, I'm glad they still add it. I will ALWAYS prefer a properly done stereo mix . Can't wait till my copy arrives |
| cmsdrums 06.11.2012 13:25 |
Why the hell do they go to the effort of remixing the audio, putting it on blu ray, then release it lossy and compressed? Very annoying. |
| Marknow 06.11.2012 16:33 |
cmsdrums wrote: Why the hell do they go to the effort of remixing the audio, putting it on blu ray, then release it lossy and compressed? Very annoying. The DTS 5.1 track is lossless. http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Hungarian-Rhapsody-Queen-Live-In-Budapest-Deluxe-Blu-ray/56085/ "Hungarian Rhapsody: Queen Live in Budapest features both a lossless DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1 surround mix and an uncompressed LPCM 2.0 stereo fold down." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DTS-HD_Master_Audio 5.1 DTS HD @ 96kHz, 24-bit = Happy days, no complaints from me. If you have a decent 5.1 setup use that. |
| Biggest Band On The Planet 07.11.2012 08:31 |
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| Biggest Band On The Planet 07.11.2012 08:32 |
The 5.1 could be compressed because there is a lot more bass in the stereo mix. |
| on my way up 07.11.2012 10:08 |
I bought the Blu ray/cd-set (€ 25,90) and the cd's are now in my car.... You can say what you want about this release (again Magic tour, again the same setlist, we want seventies stuff,...) but: Budapest 1986 is a FANTASTIC performance! For me, it is the band as good as they could be in 1986. Freddie's voice is absolutely gorgeous,... We're always talking about FM hittin' high notes but it's the timbre of his voice and many of the lower and very powerful midrange stuff which makes me listen to his vocal abilities in pure admiration:-) The rest of the band just rocks and they're so solid and create such a huge wall of sound... |
| The Real Wizard 07.11.2012 10:46 |
Agreed. Definitely one of their best shows. I can't remember how many times I had to listen to the vocal exchange with the crowd after Tie Your Mother Down. The sheer beauty of his voice/vibrato is unsurpassed. |
| cmsdrums 07.11.2012 13:14 |
Coolio - I do indeed have a great surround av receiver and speaker set up, so when my pre-order arrives I will be happy! Cheers |
| 99jaystang 07.11.2012 18:02 |
got mine today from amazon.ca and of course one of the cd's is loose . Sick and tired of these cases. Same problem with Wembley 25th dvd cd set. |
| zanic 07.11.2012 22:21 |
Hi Does anyone know if the US Blu Ray release is region locked? Thanks D |
| Day dop 08.11.2012 12:04 |
It's going for about 24 quid on Amazon now. Seems reasonable. |
| Hang On In There 13.11.2012 05:18 |
Aaaaaannnnddddd it's another blasted Digi-pack. Seriously, have these people never heard of PLASTIC DVD cases that hold multiple discs????? Yeah - it's the same kind of packaging as the Queen Live At Wembley Stadium 25th Anniversary Edition - but it feels even more flimsy - almost in that gray area where thick paper meets cardboard. The photos on the inside and back of the set are rubbish too - blurry pictures of lights and almost a silhouette (but not on a wall!) of Freddie The photo under the discs is okay (that yellow leisure suit is very 80's though!) I got mine from Amazon and they didn't package it very well so it is a bit disappointing. |
| Erik Viking 13.11.2012 05:59 |
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-_DjUBVPzufg/UIrNw6iW9JI/AAAAAAAAYRg/OgBTLGksqDo/s1600/HRQLIB86-5.jpg My copy arrived yesterday. Budapest has lossy DTS-HD High Resolution 96/24 (as on picture above - there is no mistake on the cover) DTS-HD HR - bit rates up to 6.0 Mbit/s DTS-MA - bit rates up to 24.5 Mbit/s No complaints from me. Just for the record. |
| e-man 13.11.2012 11:48 |
finally got it today. have only flicked through it so far, but my first impression is this; as far as picture, and even more so with sound, it's superior to both Wembleys. great to have it at the correct speed. such a shame it's not complete though. the band is tight, and the audio mix features all instruments superbly. one mistake I've spotted though; early on in One Vision, there is a shot of Roger doing a fill when the audio clearly has him holding a steady beat as far as the documentary; good stuff. some unseen clips. it's weird to listen to Jim Beach about Queen's future and think about how rigth he was... |
| popy 13.11.2012 13:56 |
The cover and Blu-Ray menu says stereo track is in 48k/24b, but it's not. It's just 48k/16b. |
| Thistle 13.11.2012 16:59 |
The Real Wizard wrote: Dear god ... the complete Budapest audio is being released for the first time. Can't we ever be happy here? It's a very fair price for a three disc package.True. I know that times are tight right now, but this looks like a nice package and is a very reasonable price. It's an attitude like such that put me out of my physical store when I was trading a couple of years back and I had everything cheaper than the nearest competitors. Even stuff at £1 people wanted reductions on. WTF? Everyone wants everything for free these days! |
| cmsdrums 15.11.2012 14:47 |
Just watching the documentary, and in one interview about setlists, John says; 'We have such a vast catalogue that we do actually forget about some of our older songs'. Never a truer word spoken!! |
| kosimodo 16.11.2012 12:02 |
Received my copy.. Like it, but.. To me it looks like the sound is not in sync with the video. Specially one vision is well off. |
| pittrek 16.11.2012 12:48 |
kosimodo wrote: Received my copy.. Like it, but.. To me it looks like the sound is not in sync with the video. Specially one vision is well off.THANK YOU !!! I will admit that I don't have my version yet, so I was watching a downloaded version. Yes, the sound on my mkv is WELL OFF. I thought it's a problem with my copy, that something went wrong during the BD ripping, but you say that's REALLY how the OFFICIAL PRODUCT is ? |
| kosimodo 16.11.2012 14:27 |
Yep. And i am thinking it was my bluray disc from the pack with the cd's from amazon.de. And nobody esle was mentionong it so... It is constantly off. Very annoying to watch imo. And i like to watch it. The show is more like i saw it in 86 with lights and all. And Freddie.. Well i just love watching him sing so.. Dissappointed i am. |
| DLCVinnuendo 16.11.2012 14:39 |
the brazillian version sucks, here, we have only the dvd, nor cd, nor blu ray |
| Matheusms 16.11.2012 15:56 |
I think it wasn't even released in Brazil at all, at least until now you can't find the dvd or BD anywhere. Sony Music Brazil treats Queen's catalog as shit, the best thing for us brazilian fans would be having this release by Eagle Music. |
| DLCVinnuendo 16.11.2012 17:29 |
i saw the dvd in the cultura library Matheusms, i will buy, but this version is so desapointed |
| Battler 17.11.2012 12:17 |
DLCVinnuendo wrote: the brazillian version sucks, here, we have only the dvd, nor cd, nor blu rayAre you sure it's even the actual Hungarian Rhapsody and not a DVD transfer of the old VHS or Laserdisc with a nice cover slapped on it? |
| DLCVinnuendo 17.11.2012 12:50 |
no, i is Hugarian Rhapsody, really, here, only released on dvd, nor cd, nor blu ray |
| KevoM 20.11.2012 06:44 |
Sold out in two Manchester branches of HMV although both young assistants went out of their way to track em down as both stores were showing them in stock. One was a young, black cool dude who even commented on how great Freddie was and likened him to Bob Marley as the 'Two greatest front men ever'! So with that I placed an order with them. My faith in HMV, the high st and young shop assistants has been completely restored. Who needs Amazon or Play? |
| maxpower 20.11.2012 13:20 |
Listening to the audio, what is annoying is extra reverb especially on 'Dust |
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| YAFF 21.11.2012 01:07 |
Suuuuuuure. Full show on DVD would be nice but the full show is on the 2 CDs and the sound and performance is fabulous. This performance absolutely crushes Wembley to me. In fact it makes the Wembley 2 CD obsolete. I don't even have a copy anymore. Gave it away. Listened to it twice and that was enough. Second rate versions of the studio songs...but Budapest is another story Wembley DVD's a keeper of course but if I'm in my car I'm happy to pop in the Budapest CDs. I would've been happy with just a 2 CD audio set. It's hard to sit still and watch a full gig on DVD. Perhaps if I had a 72-inch TV screen and hi-fi surround sound I might enjoy them more. |
| tcc 21.11.2012 02:15 |
I think there is more "filler" in the Wembley concert - somehow I feel that Freddie was in the centre of the music in Wembley whereas in the Budapest recording, Freddie seemed to be out there in front and the music was behind him. I prefer the Wembley concert because it was in front of a home crowd and the band seemed more relaxed. Freddie seemed to be having fun especially in the rock and roll segment. |
| maxpower 22.11.2012 18:27 |
What I will say having not heard Budapest in full, is Freddie struggles here at the end like he did on the 2nd Wembley show Radio Ga Ga onward but overall a better show than that |
| Future Manager 23.11.2012 12:36 |
Does anyone know if the dubbed intro guitar solo of One Vision is a studio overdub or taken from another show? It's definitely not what Brian really played in Budapest. I was wondering because this dub (it's the same on VHS and Blu) is by far my favourite version of this solo. |
| pittrek 23.11.2012 12:44 |
They're still not selling it here. What the hell should this mean ? :-( |
| dowens 23.11.2012 19:01 |
I am not going to get into a debate on whether Budapest is better than Wembley or not, but I will agree that Freddie seems to talk alot more at Wembley, therefore seeming more relaxed. You can also tell towards the end of Budapest his voice is having a harder time. I love Budapest and I'm so happy the concert has been released in full! Makes me wonder why they cut out the 2nd verse of TYMD on the DVD? I know Freddie doesn't sing the exact melody, but it sounds great! |
| jones904 24.11.2012 01:58 |
soon be christmas |
| KevoM 26.11.2012 07:08 |
dowens wrote: You can also tell towards the end of Budapest his voice is having a harder time.And at the beginning of Wembley! |
| The Real Wizard 26.11.2012 10:52 |
KevoM wrote:HAHA... bingo.dowens wrote: You can also tell towards the end of Budapest his voice is having a harder time.And at the beginning of Wembley! |
| artist_nine 29.01.2013 05:31 |
I have the DVD and by using the "DVD Audio Extractor" -software I ripped the six DTS channels of two songs (In The Lap Of the Gods and Who Wants To Live Forever) only to find out that the center channel and the subwoofer channel (the "point one") are completely silent. So probably the whole DVD is actually only in 4.0 audio as opposed to the 5.1 surround sound it says on the cover... great marketing or am I missing something...? |
| inu-liger 29.01.2013 05:49 |
artist_nine wrote: I have the DVD and by using the "DVD Audio Extractor" -software I ripped the six DTS channels of two songs (In The Lap Of the Gods and Who Wants To Live Forever) only to find out that the center channel and the subwoofer channel (the "point one") are completely silent. So probably the whole DVD is actually only in 4.0 audio as opposed to the 5.1 surround sound it says on the cover... great marketing or am I missing something...?Actually it's very typical of QPL. No audio in the LFE channel though?? That's gotta be a new low for them... (no pun intended) |
| brians wig 29.01.2013 06:15 |
In typical QPL style, you actually get a better surround effect by using the surround upscale option on an amplifier... |
| NOTWMEDDLE 05.02.2013 00:19 |
I just got the 2-CD/DVD set for my birthday two weeks ago and I think it massacres Wembley (or Overdubbed at Wembley as I call it). My dad was kind enough to buy it for me for my birthday on 24 January (or January 24 as us Yankees write it). I was not going to just settle for the DVD or Blu Ray it was either the 2-CD/DVD or 2-CD/Blu Ray so I went with former and I love it! Putting the CDs with the DVD made perfect sense as (like Queen Rock Montreal in 2007) the CDs have the full show whilst the film was as originally presented with new sound (at least the edits on some songs wasn't as bad as Genesis' Three Sides Live on the Genesis Movie Box).. I was originally going to grab at Christmas but I decided to wait until my birthday as other things like the Deluxe Edition of Rush's 2112 and a few other odds and ends made me put it off. |
| robertcop35 31.08.2013 16:24 |
Well I got this the other day (Blu-Ray 2 CD Combo) I love the PCM mix but the DTS mix was weak great show I love the bonus feature! |
| e-man 31.08.2013 17:47 |
the DTS mix is a weird one....why not a proper HD soundtrack? imo, it's still a good mix, but it could have been ever bigger and better had they done a 100% lossless soundtrack for surround as well |
| Nitroboy 01.09.2013 17:00 |
The one major flaw, is the audio level of the audience.... It's another Rock Montreal failure |