QueenZone discussion #1303913

BradMay wrote: Prophet Song, i dont count that as a vocal improvisation with the audience to be honest.

thomasquinn 32989 wrote: Complete and utter BS by Freddie-worshipers. Crowd interaction is as old as music itself, and call-and-response is generally accepted as the oldest structural format in music.

brENsKi wrote: this is an example of yet another ridiculous thread. how loing before some of these utterances become uban myth and then established as fact? before making these suggestions it may be wise to use google - or even lsiten to some older bands live lps it's rubbish to even suggest it may be the case.... plant used to do this with zeppelin in the late 60s and gillan did it as a "standard" with purple from 1972 onwards but why don't we ignore the facts and just lets cut to the chase and accept that freddie invented everything....the lightbulb, zip fastener, microchip, radiotherapy and a few things not invented yet...how about time travel, mind reading moving at lightspeed

thomasquinn 32989 wrote: Complete and utter BS by Freddie-worshipers. Crowd interaction is as old as music itself, and call-and-response is generally accepted as the oldest structural format in music.

brENsKi wrote: nicely sidestepped my suggestion to "listen to some older bands live lps" i used keywords like "audience participation" "rock" and "gigs" and "history" one reference to the monterrey pop festival 1967 cites Otis Redding's set as involving audience participation

STELIOS wrote:

brENsKi wrote: nicely sidestepped my suggestion to "listen to some older bands live lps" i used keywords like "audience participation" "rock" and "gigs" and "history" one reference to the monterrey pop festival 1967 cites Otis Redding's set as involving audience participation

brENsKi come on. You know that this thread was not refearing to audience participation. It was all about the vocal ping-pong we all understand as a very Freddie thing. And its not a huge invention but it played its role in the completion of Queen live = pure electricity and manipulation of the masses(in a good way)

STELIOS wrote: "Trying to establish a fiction as fact"? Nope.This thread had a question mark after the word maverick. Bother to read it carefully.

STELIOS wrote: when i say "And its not a huge invention but it played..." means it wasnt huge and apparently it wasnt an invention.It just something done with great charisma so perhaps stepped voc.improvisations to a next level.

Supersonic_Man89 wrote: Brenski, the guy asked a question about Queen. This is a Queen forum. Questions are allowed to be asked. Don't tell people 'if you'd be bothered to listen to other bands old bootleg lps etc.'...people haven't got the time/money/effort to listen to a bunch of old gigs from bands they're not interested in to seek an answer to a question they're simply just curious about. Jeez.

STELIOS wrote: These days seems like another one of his trademarks but i was wondering if he was a pioneer in this kind of vocal ping-pong with the audience. Where there artists before him experimented in the same way?

The Real Wizard wrote:

thomasquinn 32989 wrote: Complete and utter BS by Freddie-worshipers. Crowd interaction is as old as music itself, and call-and-response is generally accepted as the oldest structural format in music.

And that should be the end of the thread.

on my way up wrote:

The Real Wizard wrote:

thomasquinn 32989 wrote: Complete and utter BS by Freddie-worshipers. Crowd interaction is as old as music itself, and call-and-response is generally accepted as the oldest structural format in music.

And that should be the end of the thread.

I disagree in the sense that - while Freddie didn't invent call-and-response singing - he surely was really great at it (him singing with a huge audience is quite impressive,n isn't it?). It has to be said that few other rockers have the charisma, voice and intelligence to do it on the scale Freddie did at - let's say - Live Aid. There are a few simple tricks to make it work but few really master those tricks and few seem to understand those tricks. Now, what am I talking about? Be my guest to make suggestions haha.

brENsKi wrote:

on my way up wrote:

The Real Wizard wrote:

thomasquinn 32989 wrote: Complete and utter BS by Freddie-worshipers. Crowd interaction is as old as music itself, and call-and-response is generally accepted as the oldest structural format in music.

And that should be the end of the thread.

I disagree in the sense that - while Freddie didn't invent call-and-response singing - he surely was really great at it (him singing with a huge audience is quite impressive,n isn't it?). It has to be said that few other rockers have the charisma, voice and intelligence to do it on the scale Freddie did at - let's say - Live Aid. There are a few simple tricks to make it work but few really master those tricks and few seem to understand those tricks. Now, what am I talking about? Be my guest to make suggestions haha.

nobody disputed (anywhere) that he was great at it, the best at it, (subjective, mind) so what excatly are YOU disagreeing with?

on my way up wrote:

The Real Wizard wrote:

thomasquinn 32989 wrote: Complete and utter BS by Freddie-worshipers. Crowd interaction is as old as music itself, and call-and-response is generally accepted as the oldest structural format in music.

And that should be the end of the thread.

I disagree in the sense that - while Freddie didn't invent call-and-response singing - he surely was really great at it (him singing with a huge audience is quite impressive,n isn't it?). It has to be said that few other rockers have the charisma, voice and intelligence to do it on the scale Freddie did at - let's say - Live Aid. There are a few simple tricks to make it work but few really master those tricks and few seem to understand those tricks. Now, what am I talking about? Be my guest to make suggestions haha.

pma wrote: Freddie also pioneered the following: the prophylactic the water closet He also invented singing, no human had sung anything before he invented it. Rumour has it he invented the piano, and songwriting. However, the official fanclub has not yet confirmed these rumours. A crack research team is investigating these matters somewhere in India close to the region of Bulsar.

STELIOS wrote:

pma wrote: Freddie also pioneered the following: the prophylactic the water closet He also invented singing, no human had sung anything before he invented it. Rumour has it he invented the piano, and songwriting. However, the official fanclub has not yet confirmed these rumours. A crack research team is investigating these matters somewhere in India close to the region of Bulsar.

I dont know about the water closet but he did help invent the glass closet. link